Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
I can't say about a performance drop, but gameplay definitely changes between 24 and 32 players. Then again, I play Spy a lot, and it's a lot harder to get behind enemy lines when there's more enemies. On 7/2/2010 6:37 PM, Craig H wrote: > TF2 was budgeted for 24 players, after that performance starts dropping > notably with each additional player. 32 is bad enough, I can only imagine > how poorly a 64 player game would run. > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:05 PM, clad iron wrote: > >> agreed, it would be nice to be able to have more slots on some of those >> *custom >> *maps. >> >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Allan Button wrote: >> >>> You would not be forced to join that server. Calm down. >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: >>> hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ken >>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:38 AM >>> To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list >>> Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update? >>> >>> Oh god, please don't valve. 32 2fort is already painful enough. Dustbowl >>> would give me the shivers as well. >>> >>> Plus, yes, there would be performance issues on both servers and clients. >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On 2/07/2010, at 6:57 PM, Shane Arnold wrote: >>> >>>> I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine >>>> performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 >>>> players? >>>> >>>> On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: >>>>> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 >> slots >>> as being "possibly unbalanced".. >>>>> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or >>> plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to >> have >>> that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. >>>>> ___ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>>>> >>>> ___ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
TF2 was budgeted for 24 players, after that performance starts dropping notably with each additional player. 32 is bad enough, I can only imagine how poorly a 64 player game would run. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 12:05 PM, clad iron wrote: > agreed, it would be nice to be able to have more slots on some of those > *custom > *maps. > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Allan Button wrote: > > > You would not be forced to join that server. Calm down. > > > > Allan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ken > > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:38 AM > > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update? > > > > Oh god, please don't valve. 32 2fort is already painful enough. Dustbowl > > would give me the shivers as well. > > > > Plus, yes, there would be performance issues on both servers and clients. > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On 2/07/2010, at 6:57 PM, Shane Arnold wrote: > > > > > I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine > > > performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 > > > players? > > > > > > On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: > > >> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 > slots > > as being "possibly unbalanced".. > > >> > > >> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or > > plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to > have > > that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > >> > > > > > > ___ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
agreed, it would be nice to be able to have more slots on some of those *custom *maps. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Allan Button wrote: > You would not be forced to join that server. Calm down. > > Allan > > -Original Message- > From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto: > hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ken > Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:38 AM > To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update? > > Oh god, please don't valve. 32 2fort is already painful enough. Dustbowl > would give me the shivers as well. > > Plus, yes, there would be performance issues on both servers and clients. > > Sent from my iPad > > On 2/07/2010, at 6:57 PM, Shane Arnold wrote: > > > I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine > > performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 > > players? > > > > On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: > >> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots > as being "possibly unbalanced".. > >> > >> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or > plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have > that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > > > ___ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
You would not be forced to join that server. Calm down. Allan -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Ken Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:38 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update? Oh god, please don't valve. 32 2fort is already painful enough. Dustbowl would give me the shivers as well. Plus, yes, there would be performance issues on both servers and clients. Sent from my iPad On 2/07/2010, at 6:57 PM, Shane Arnold wrote: > I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine > performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 > players? > > On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: >> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots as >> being "possibly unbalanced".. >> >> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or >> plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have >> that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
Oh god, please don't valve. 32 2fort is already painful enough. Dustbowl would give me the shivers as well. Plus, yes, there would be performance issues on both servers and clients. Sent from my iPad On 2/07/2010, at 6:57 PM, Shane Arnold wrote: > I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine > performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 > players? > > On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: >> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots as >> being "possibly unbalanced".. >> >> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or >> plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have >> that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
If I recall it correctly that plugin was released to allow up to 32+1 players when TF2 servers were locked to max 24+1 slots. Last time I checked (a few months ago) there was a 33 slots limit hardcoded in the tf2 client, so anyone connecting to a server with more than 33 (real) slots will CTD. I don't think this limit has been removed from the client. On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Drogen Viech wrote: > http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4 > It's out of date, sadly. > > 2010/7/2 Daniel Vogel : > > What? There are plugins that allow 64 players? > > > > On 2 July 2010 08:57, Shane Arnold wrote: > >> I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine > >> performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 > >> players? > >> > >> On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: > >>> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots > as being "possibly unbalanced".. > >>> > >>> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or > plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have > that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Mit freundlichen Grüssen, > > Sincerely Yours, > > Daniel Vogel > > > > _ > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
http://www.sourceop.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=4 It's out of date, sadly. 2010/7/2 Daniel Vogel : > What? There are plugins that allow 64 players? > > On 2 July 2010 08:57, Shane Arnold wrote: >> I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine >> performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 >> players? >> >> On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: >>> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots as >>> being "possibly unbalanced".. >>> >>> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or >>> plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have >>> that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. >>> >>> ___ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >>> >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > > > -- > Mit freundlichen Grüssen, > Sincerely Yours, > Daniel Vogel > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
What? There are plugins that allow 64 players? On 2 July 2010 08:57, Shane Arnold wrote: > I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine > performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 > players? > > On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: >> Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots as >> being "possibly unbalanced".. >> >> Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or >> plugins? People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have >> that many slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. >> >> ___ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux >> > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > -- Mit freundlichen Grüssen, Sincerely Yours, Daniel Vogel ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] More than 32 slots with the new TF2 update?
I thought the hardlimit on slots was in place due to Orangebox Engine performance/limitations? Do existing extra-slot plugins not allow 64 players? On 2/07/2010 1:54 PM, Harry Strongburg wrote: > Now that the new TF2 update warns about servers with more than 24 slots as > being "possibly unbalanced".. > > Can we get 64+ slot servers without needing to use any extra mods or plugins? > People will know it will be unbalanced, but if people want to have that many > slots, I don't see why they should be denied that. > > ___ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please > visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux > ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
