Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-22 Thread f0rkz
Tomato to-mato, what does it matter?

-f0rkz

On Fri, 2010-01-22 at 01:42 -0500, Guy Watkins wrote:
> It shows up when using:
> cvarlist sv_pure
> 
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> } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Didrole
> } Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:43 PM
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> } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?
> } 
> } sv_pure isn't a cvar
> } 
> } 2010/1/21 w4rezz 
> } 
> } > Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
> } > server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
> } > as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
> } > ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
> } > without VAC
> } > ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
> } > ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
> } > ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-22 Thread Saul Rennison
That's completely wrong. sv_pure isn't a ConVar on the client.
Unverified file CRC hashes are sent to the server on connection, if
CRC hashes fail, the client is requested to load them straight from
GCF.
The ConVar system is fine. Also you can't fake ConVar values.

On Friday, January 22, 2010, w4rezz  wrote:
> So its console command what shows server whitelist, but its also cvar
> variable what can be changed with memory editing, the truth is it can
> be checked by server plugin, you can ask client how are his cvars sets
> to (its how are KAC, detox, zblock etc working) but if you change
> value with memory editing, client will respond to server default
> value, so if r_drawothermodels default value is 1, and i change it
> with memory cheat to 2 ( i will has wallhack), but client response to
> server i has r_drawothermodels sets to 1, not 2, if i type
> r_drawothermodels i also see i have set it to 1, but i have wallhack
> activated, wtf? I really dont like how is cvar system in source engine
>  working and how valve dont care about that.
>
> 2010/1/22 Didrole :
>> ] cvarlist sv_pure
>> cvar list
>> --
>> sv_pure                                  : *cmd*      :                  :
>> Show user data.
>>
>>
>> sv_pure is a concommand and not a cvar ( as Console Variable ) and thus its
>> value on the client can't be checked by a server plugin or bypassed by a
>> cheat that remove the replicated flag.
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/22 Jeff Sugar 
>>
>>> Uh, yes it is. If you're choosing to have CVAR mean "Client Variable"
>>> instead of "Console Variable", though, then you're right by that
>>> definition.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Didrole  wrote:
>>>
>>> > sv_pure isn't a cvar
>>> >
>>> > 2010/1/21 w4rezz 
>>> >
>>> > > Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
>>> > > server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
>>> > > as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
>>> > > ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
>>> > > without VAC
>>> > > ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
>>> > > ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
>>> > > ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
>>> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread w4rezz
So its console command what shows server whitelist, but its also cvar
variable what can be changed with memory editing, the truth is it can
be checked by server plugin, you can ask client how are his cvars sets
to (its how are KAC, detox, zblock etc working) but if you change
value with memory editing, client will respond to server default
value, so if r_drawothermodels default value is 1, and i change it
with memory cheat to 2 ( i will has wallhack), but client response to
server i has r_drawothermodels sets to 1, not 2, if i type
r_drawothermodels i also see i have set it to 1, but i have wallhack
activated, wtf? I really dont like how is cvar system in source engine
 working and how valve dont care about that.

2010/1/22 Didrole :
> ] cvarlist sv_pure
> cvar list
> --
> sv_pure                                  : *cmd*      :                  :
> Show user data.
>
>
> sv_pure is a concommand and not a cvar ( as Console Variable ) and thus its
> value on the client can't be checked by a server plugin or bypassed by a
> cheat that remove the replicated flag.
>
>
> 2010/1/22 Jeff Sugar 
>
>> Uh, yes it is. If you're choosing to have CVAR mean "Client Variable"
>> instead of "Console Variable", though, then you're right by that
>> definition.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Didrole  wrote:
>>
>> > sv_pure isn't a cvar
>> >
>> > 2010/1/21 w4rezz 
>> >
>> > > Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
>> > > server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
>> > > as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
>> > > ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
>> > > without VAC
>> > > ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
>> > > ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
>> > > ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
>> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Guy Watkins
It shows up when using:
cvarlist sv_pure

} -Original Message-
} From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-
} boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Didrole
} Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:43 PM
} To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list
} Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?
} 
} sv_pure isn't a cvar
} 
} 2010/1/21 w4rezz 
} 
} > Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
} > server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
} > as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
} > ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
} > without VAC
} > ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
} > ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
} > ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
} >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Didrole
] cvarlist sv_pure
cvar list
--
sv_pure  : *cmd*  :  :
Show user data.


sv_pure is a concommand and not a cvar ( as Console Variable ) and thus its
value on the client can't be checked by a server plugin or bypassed by a
cheat that remove the replicated flag.


2010/1/22 Jeff Sugar 

> Uh, yes it is. If you're choosing to have CVAR mean "Client Variable"
> instead of "Console Variable", though, then you're right by that
> definition.
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Didrole  wrote:
>
> > sv_pure isn't a cvar
> >
> > 2010/1/21 w4rezz 
> >
> > > Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
> > > server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
> > > as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
> > > ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
> > > without VAC
> > > ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
> > > ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
> > > ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
> > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Jeff Sugar
Uh, yes it is. If you're choosing to have CVAR mean "Client Variable"
instead of "Console Variable", though, then you're right by that definition.


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Didrole  wrote:

> sv_pure isn't a cvar
>
> 2010/1/21 w4rezz 
>
> > Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
> > server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
> > as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
> > ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
> > without VAC
> > ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
> > ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
> > ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Didrole
sv_pure isn't a cvar

2010/1/21 w4rezz 

> Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
> server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
> as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
> ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
> without VAC
> ( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
> ( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
> ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread w4rezz
Btw a little OF - sv_pure is clientside cvar and its replicated, so if
server has sv_pure set to 1, client's sv_pure is also sets to 1, and
as we know its easy to change cvar values on client without any VAC
ban, memory editing of source engine is very old, good way to cheat
without VAC
( or KAC ) ban, as we know most used cheat is just r_drawothermodels 2
( http://www.xraygaming.com/index.php?pageid=gallery ) , Valve is
ruining CS:S leagues for years becouse of ignoring those facts.

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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread w4rezz
Try add +sv_pure 1 to server startup parameters.

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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Chris
Now it's making sense. I started to type up yesterday that I was running
eventscripts and exploit, but then two things happened.

1. I unloaded exploit, but the command was still listed as a cheat, so I
ruled that out.
2. Saul mentioned trying the "help sv_pure" command. Upon running that
command
and getting the status of "cheat" I was stymied and forgot to follow up on
the other questions.

Just now, instead of unloading exploit, I actually removed it from
autoexec.cfg.
That did the trick.

ICS, your post was very informative and indicates that sv_pure could be used
as an exploit. Sounds ironic. Any idea how it can be exploited that they
added it to this plugin to disables it?

Thanks everyone else for helping out too.



On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 4:08 AM, ics  wrote:

> It's not a cracked server. Pure just requires to be sv_pure 1 set in
> config (or 2 if you really want to drive players away on public server)
> and you must change map, once, make it twice to be sure it is really on
> but this is not why t is marked as cheat. There are currently plugins
> that list sv_pure as "cheat". One of these is running under Eventscripts
> and that is called exploit and that is most likely why it is so. There
> are also many other cvars marked as cheat with that because you can do
> bad things to a server with them. Maybe they run that or some other
> plugin under Sourcemod.
>
> -ics
>
> DontWannaName! kirjoitti:
> > For all we know it could be a cracked server that adds the cheat flag to
> > pure.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeff Sugar  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Yeah, im surprised you guys keep replying :P
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kyle Sanderson 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> I just love how Chris doesn't tell us what he's running so no one can
> >>> actually help him until he does.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Kyle.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
>  Again, it's not a cheat.
> 
>  "sv_pure"
>   - Show user data.
> 
>  Check your plugins.
> 
>  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Interesting:
> >
> > help sv_pure
> > "sv_pure"
> >  cheat
> >  - Show user data.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison <
> >
> >>> saul.renni...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Try:
> >> *help sv_pure*
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> - Saul.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
> >>
> >>
> >>> Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Kyle.
> >>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL  >>>
> > wrote:
> >
>  You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> 
>  On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> 
> 
> > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses
> >
> >>> wallhack
> >>>
> > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying
> >
> >> on
> >>
> > public
> >
> > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there +
> >
> >> it
> >>
> > stops
> >
> > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus
> >
> >> keeping
> >>
> > them
> >
> > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the
> >
> >>> server.
> >>>
> > -ics
> >
> > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> >
> >> While you are correct, it does keep the people that just
> >>
> >> use
> >>
> >> material
> >>
> >> wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use
> >>
> >>> the
> >>>
> > exe
> >
> >>> will
> >>>
> >> "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will
> >>
> >>> not
> >>>
> > be.
> >
> >> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics 
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >>> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran
> >>>
> >>> sv_pure
> >>>
>  1
> 
> >> for
> >>
> >>> a
> >>>
> >>> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to
> >>>
> >>> the
> >>>
> >> past
> >>
>  year
> 
> >>> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure
> >>>
> >>> would
> >>>
> >> stop,
> >>
>  but
> 
> >>> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on.
> >>>
> > Sv_pure
> >
> >> is
> >>
> >>> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> >>>
> >>> -ics
> >>>
> >>> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> >>>
> >>>
>  This will not work for the first map. He has to specify
> 
> >> it
> >>
> >>> in
> >>>
> > the
> >
>  autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the serv

Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Shane Arnold
Pure is a whitelist/blacklist system, and nothing more. It only stop 
non-whitelisted materials and file modifications from being used on a 
"pure" server.

VAC Security is what will get people banned.

On 21/01/2010 8:25 PM, Tom Leighton wrote:
> Well no, it doesn't "disable" VAC at all, aimbots, speedhacks, etc, can
> still not be used since VAC will still catch these. Material wallhacks
> (the last time that I tested one out anyway) are pretty naff, and people
> show themselves up by shooting through walls when they think someone is
> in front of them (since there is effectively no distance telltale).
>
> Donnie Newlove wrote:
>
>> "EXE ones" type of hacks has a chance to be caught by VAC, material
>> hacks does not. Using sv_pure 0 effectively disables VAC since that
>> means wallhacks can be used at absolutely no risk of ever getting VAC
>> banned.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM, ics  wrote:
>>
>>  
>>> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
>>> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year
>>> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but
>>> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
>>> pretty much useless in my opinion.
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>
 This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
 autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.




  
> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>
>
>
>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>>
>> I type in console:
>> sv_pure 1
>>
>> Console responds:
>> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
>> sv_cheats set to 1.
>>
>> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Tom Leighton
Well no, it doesn't "disable" VAC at all, aimbots, speedhacks, etc, can 
still not be used since VAC will still catch these. Material wallhacks 
(the last time that I tested one out anyway) are pretty naff, and people 
show themselves up by shooting through walls when they think someone is 
in front of them (since there is effectively no distance telltale).

Donnie Newlove wrote:
> "EXE ones" type of hacks has a chance to be caught by VAC, material
> hacks does not. Using sv_pure 0 effectively disables VAC since that
> means wallhacks can be used at absolutely no risk of ever getting VAC
> banned.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM, ics  wrote:
>   
>> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
>> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year
>> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but
>> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
>> pretty much useless in my opinion.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
>> 
>>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
>>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Try using it in your server.cfg file.

 On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:

 
> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>
> I type in console:
> sv_pure 1
>
> Console responds:
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread Donnie Newlove
"EXE ones" type of hacks has a chance to be caught by VAC, material
hacks does not. Using sv_pure 0 effectively disables VAC since that
means wallhacks can be used at absolutely no risk of ever getting VAC
banned.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 8:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year
> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but
> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
> pretty much useless in my opinion.
>
> -ics
>
> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>>>
 Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.

 I type in console:
 sv_pure 1

 Console responds:
 Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
 sv_cheats set to 1.

 How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-21 Thread ics
It's not a cracked server. Pure just requires to be sv_pure 1 set in 
config (or 2 if you really want to drive players away on public server) 
and you must change map, once, make it twice to be sure it is really on 
but this is not why t is marked as cheat. There are currently plugins 
that list sv_pure as "cheat". One of these is running under Eventscripts 
and that is called exploit and that is most likely why it is so. There 
are also many other cvars marked as cheat with that because you can do 
bad things to a server with them. Maybe they run that or some other 
plugin under Sourcemod.

-ics

DontWannaName! kirjoitti:
> For all we know it could be a cracked server that adds the cheat flag to
> pure.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeff Sugar  wrote:
>
>   
>> Yeah, im surprised you guys keep replying :P
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kyle Sanderson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>> I just love how Chris doesn't tell us what he's running so no one can
>>> actually help him until he does.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kyle.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 Again, it's not a cheat.

 "sv_pure"
  - Show user data.

 Check your plugins.

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:

 
> Interesting:
>
> help sv_pure
> "sv_pure"
>  cheat
>  - Show user data.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison <
>   
>>> saul.renni...@gmail.com
>>>   
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Try:
>> *help sv_pure*
>>
>> Thanks,
>> - Saul.
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
>>
>> 
>>> Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Kyle.
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL >>   
> wrote:
>   
 You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)

 On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:

 
> Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses
>   
>>> wallhack
>>>   
> anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying
>   
>> on
>> 
> public
>   
> server to use, if you happen to have custom content there +
>   
>> it
>> 
> stops
>   
> players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus
>   
>> keeping
>> 
> them
>   
> away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the
>   
>>> server.
>>>   
> -ics
>
> Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
>   
>> While you are correct, it does keep the people that just
>> 
>> use
>> 
>> material
>> 
>> wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use
>> 
>>> the
>>>   
> exe
>   
>>> will
>>>   
>> "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will
>> 
>>> not
>>>   
> be.
>   
>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics 
>> 
>>> wrote:
>>>   
>> 
>>> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran
>>>   
>>> sv_pure
>>>   
 1
 
>> for
>> 
>>> a
>>>   
>>> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to
>>>   
>>> the
>>>   
>> past
>> 
 year
 
>>> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure
>>>   
>>> would
>>>   
>> stop,
>> 
 but
 
>>> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on.
>>>   
> Sv_pure
>   
>> is
>> 
>>> pretty much useless in my opinion.
>>>
>>> -ics
>>>
>>> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
>>>
>>>   
 This will not work for the first map. He has to specify
 
>> it
>> 
>>> in
>>>   
> the
>   
 autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.




 
> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>
>
>   
>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>>
>>

Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread DontWannaName!
For all we know it could be a cracked server that adds the cheat flag to
pure.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Jeff Sugar  wrote:

> Yeah, im surprised you guys keep replying :P
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kyle Sanderson 
> wrote:
>
> > I just love how Chris doesn't tell us what he's running so no one can
> > actually help him until he does.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kyle.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Again, it's not a cheat.
> > >
> > > "sv_pure"
> > >  - Show user data.
> > >
> > > Check your plugins.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Interesting:
> > > >
> > > > help sv_pure
> > > > "sv_pure"
> > > >  cheat
> > > >  - Show user data.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison <
> > saul.renni...@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Try:
> > > > > *help sv_pure*
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > - Saul.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
> > > > >
> > > > > > Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Kyle.
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses
> > wallhack
> > > > > > > > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying
> on
> > > > public
> > > > > > > > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there +
> it
> > > > stops
> > > > > > > > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus
> keeping
> > > > them
> > > > > > > > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the
> > server.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -ics
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > > > > > > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just
> use
> > > > > material
> > > > > > > > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use
> > the
> > > > exe
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will
> > not
> > > > be.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran
> > sv_pure
> > > 1
> > > > > for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to
> > the
> > > > > past
> > > > > > > year
> > > > > > > > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure
> > would
> > > > > stop,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on.
> > > > Sv_pure
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> -ics
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify
> it
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I type in console:
> > > > > > > > > sv_pure 1
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Console responds:
> > > > > > > > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless
> > the
> > > > > server
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How is that possible?
> > > > > > > > > ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Jeff Sugar
Yeah, im surprised you guys keep replying :P


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kyle Sanderson  wrote:

> I just love how Chris doesn't tell us what he's running so no one can
> actually help him until he does.
>
> Cheers,
> Kyle.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Again, it's not a cheat.
> >
> > "sv_pure"
> >  - Show user data.
> >
> > Check your plugins.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting:
> > >
> > > help sv_pure
> > > "sv_pure"
> > >  cheat
> > >  - Show user data.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison <
> saul.renni...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Try:
> > > > *help sv_pure*
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > - Saul.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
> > > >
> > > > > Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Kyle.
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL 
> > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses
> wallhack
> > > > > > > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on
> > > public
> > > > > > > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it
> > > stops
> > > > > > > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping
> > > them
> > > > > > > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the
> server.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -ics
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > > > > > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use
> > > > material
> > > > > > > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use
> the
> > > exe
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will
> not
> > > be.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics 
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran
> sv_pure
> > 1
> > > > for
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to
> the
> > > > past
> > > > > > year
> > > > > > > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure
> would
> > > > stop,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on.
> > > Sv_pure
> > > > is
> > > > > > > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> -ics
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I type in console:
> > > > > > > > sv_pure 1
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Console responds:
> > > > > > > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless
> the
> > > > server
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is that possible?
> > > > > > > > ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Kyle Sanderson
I just love how Chris doesn't tell us what he's running so no one can
actually help him until he does.

Cheers,
Kyle.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 4:16 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Again, it's not a cheat.
>
> "sv_pure"
>  - Show user data.
>
> Check your plugins.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:
>
> > Interesting:
> >
> > help sv_pure
> > "sv_pure"
> >  cheat
> >  - Show user data.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Try:
> > > *help sv_pure*
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > - Saul.
> > >
> > >
> > > 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
> > >
> > > > Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Kyle.
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack
> > > > > > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on
> > public
> > > > > > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it
> > stops
> > > > > > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping
> > them
> > > > > > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -ics
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > > > > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use
> > > material
> > > > > > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the
> > exe
> > > > will
> > > > > > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not
> > be.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure
> 1
> > > for
> > > > a
> > > > > > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the
> > > past
> > > > > year
> > > > > > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would
> > > stop,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on.
> > Sv_pure
> > > is
> > > > > > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> -ics
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in
> > the
> > > > > > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I type in console:
> > > > > > > sv_pure 1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Console responds:
> > > > > > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the
> > > server
> > > > > has
> > > > > > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is that possible?
> > > > > > > ___
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> list
> > > > > > archives,
> > > > > > > please visit:
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> > > > > > >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread 1nsane
Again, it's not a cheat.

"sv_pure"
  - Show user data.

Check your plugins.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Chris  wrote:

> Interesting:
>
> help sv_pure
> "sv_pure"
>  cheat
>  - Show user data.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison  >wrote:
>
> > Try:
> > *help sv_pure*
> >
> > Thanks,
> > - Saul.
> >
> >
> > 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
> >
> > > Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Kyle.
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack
> > > > > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on
> public
> > > > > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it
> stops
> > > > > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping
> them
> > > > > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.
> > > > >
> > > > > -ics
> > > > >
> > > > > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > > > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use
> > material
> > > > > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the
> exe
> > > will
> > > > > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not
> be.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1
> > for
> > > a
> > > > > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the
> > past
> > > > year
> > > > > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would
> > stop,
> > > > but
> > > > > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on.
> Sv_pure
> > is
> > > > > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> -ics
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in
> the
> > > > > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > > > > 
> > > > >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I type in console:
> > > > > > sv_pure 1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Console responds:
> > > > > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the
> > server
> > > > has
> > > > > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is that possible?
> > > > > > ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Chris
Interesting:

help sv_pure
"sv_pure"
 cheat
 - Show user data.


On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Saul Rennison wrote:

> Try:
> *help sv_pure*
>
> Thanks,
> - Saul.
>
>
> 2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 
>
> > Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Kyle.
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
> >
> > > You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack
> > > > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on public
> > > > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it stops
> > > > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping them
> > > > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.
> > > >
> > > > -ics
> > > >
> > > > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use
> material
> > > > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the exe
> > will
> > > > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not be.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1
> for
> > a
> > > > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the
> past
> > > year
> > > > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would
> stop,
> > > but
> > > > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure
> is
> > > > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> -ics
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
> > > > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > > > 
> > > >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > > > >
> > > > > I type in console:
> > > > > sv_pure 1
> > > > >
> > > > > Console responds:
> > > > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the
> server
> > > has
> > > > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > > > >
> > > > > How is that possible?
> > > > > ___
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> > > > archives,
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> > > > 
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> > > > >>>
> > > > >> please visit:
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Saul Rennison
Try:
*help sv_pure*

Thanks,
- Saul.


2010/1/20 Kyle Sanderson 

> Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.
>
> Cheers,
> Kyle.
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:
>
> > You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack
> > > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on public
> > > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it stops
> > > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping them
> > > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.
> > >
> > > -ics
> > >
> > > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use material
> > > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the exe
> will
> > > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not be.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for
> a
> > > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past
> > year
> > > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop,
> > but
> > > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
> > > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > > >>
> > > >> -ics
> > > >>
> > > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > > >>
> > > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
> > > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > > 
> > >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > > >
> > > > I type in console:
> > > > sv_pure 1
> > > >
> > > > Console responds:
> > > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server
> > has
> > > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > > >
> > > > How is that possible?
> > > > ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Kyle Sanderson
Chris, are you running any addons? ie MetaMod, EventScripts, etc.

Cheers,
Kyle.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Cc2iscooL  wrote:

> You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:
>
> > Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack
> > anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on public
> > server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it stops
> > players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping them
> > away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.
> >
> > -ics
> >
> > Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use material
> > > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the exe will
> > > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not be.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
> > >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past
> year
> > >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop,
> but
> > >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
> > >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> > >>
> > >> -ics
> > >>
> > >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > >>
> > >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
> > >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > 
> >  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > >
> > > I type in console:
> > > sv_pure 1
> > >
> > > Console responds:
> > > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server
> has
> > > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > >
> > > How is that possible?
> > > ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Cc2iscooL
You just have to have the proper whitelist. :)

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:41 PM, ics  wrote:

> Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack
> anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on public
> server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it stops
> players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping them
> away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.
>
> -ics
>
> Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> > While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use material
> > wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the exe will
> > "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not be.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
> >
> >
> >> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
> >> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year
> >> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but
> >> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
> >> pretty much useless in my opinion.
> >>
> >> -ics
> >>
> >> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> >>
> >>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
> >>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> 
>  On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> 
> 
> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >
> > I type in console:
> > sv_pure 1
> >
> > Console responds:
> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >
> > How is that possible?
> > ___
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Chris
Not really clear on what you are asking.
I'm not doing any commands via rcon. Everything is being
executed directly on the server console.

Interesting though, I just tried (from the server console) turning sv_cheats
to 1 and I get:

sv_cheats 1
Can't use cheat cvar sv_cheats in multiplayer, unless the server has
sv_cheats set to 1.

However, with this command I actually can see the present value.

sv_cheats
"sv_cheats" = "0"
 notify cheat replicated
 - Allow cheats on server

I tried setting sv_pure 1 in autoexec. Not sure if it took affect because I
still get the same
message from server console when I type sv_pure with no parameters.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:33 PM, f0rkz  wrote:

> On a whim here...
>
> You are running like so?:
>
> rcon_password myrconpasshere
> rcon sv_cheats
> ...Then to set it:...
> rcon sv_cheats 1
>
> -f0rkz
>
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >
> > I type in console:
> > sv_pure 1
> >
> > Console responds:
> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread ics
Yes, this is also true, however, we ban anyone who uses wallhack 
anyways, material or exe. Pure is also just is too annoying on public 
server to use, if you happen to have custom content there + it stops 
players having their custom weapon skins and such, thus keeping them 
away, unless you allow custom stuff with whitelist on the server.

-ics

Cc2iscooL kirjoitti:
> While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use material
> wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the exe will
> "eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not be.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:
>
>   
>> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
>> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year
>> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but
>> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
>> pretty much useless in my opinion.
>>
>> -ics
>>
>> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
>> 
>>> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
>>> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
 Try using it in your server.cfg file.

 On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:

 
> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>
> I type in console:
> sv_pure 1
>
> Console responds:
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
>
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread f0rkz
On a whim here...

You are running like so?:

rcon_password myrconpasshere
rcon sv_cheats
...Then to set it:...
rcon sv_cheats 1

-f0rkz


On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> 
> I type in console:
> sv_pure 1
> 
> Console responds:
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
> 
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Cc2iscooL
While you are correct, it does keep the people that just use material
wallhacks from using them. Theoretically the ones that use the exe will
"eventually" be banned, while the material wallhackers will not be.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, ics  wrote:

> For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a
> year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year
> before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but
> the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is
> pretty much useless in my opinion.
>
> -ics
>
> Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> > This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the
> > autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
> >
> >
> >
> >> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> >>
> >>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >>>
> >>> I type in console:
> >>> sv_pure 1
> >>>
> >>> Console responds:
> >>> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> >>> sv_cheats set to 1.
> >>>
> >>> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread 1nsane
You are doing something wrong. What plugins are you running? Something is
apparently adding the cheat flag to the sv_pure command.

This is how it works for me:

sv_pure 1

sv_pure value unchanged (current value is 1).



sv_pure:

sv_pure:

If set to 1, the server will force all client files except the whitelisted
ones (in pure_server_whitelist.txt) to match the server's files.

If set to 2, the server will force all client files to come from Steam (and
it will not load pure_server_whitelist.txt).

Current sv_pure value is 1.



On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:56 PM, Chris  wrote:

> It's all the same. sv_pure by itself is what I originally tried. When I saw
> the response, I tried setting it. Same message.
>
> sv_pure
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
> sv_pure 1
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
>
> Server is already up to date :/
>
> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> Updating Installation
> Checking/Installing 'Counter-Strike Source Shared Content' version 74
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
> Checking/Installing 'Source Dedicated Server Linux' version 96
> HLDS installation up to date
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Ronny Schedel  >wrote:
>
> >
> > Just enter sv_pure on the server console to see the current setting.
> >
> >
> > >I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
> > > Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
> > > so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
> > > bizarre response.
> > >
> > > I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > >> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> > >> >
> > >> > I type in console:
> > >> > sv_pure 1
> > >> >
> > >> > Console responds:
> > >> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server
> has
> > >> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > >> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Saul Rennison
That's what he's done?

Thanks,
- Saul.


2010/1/20 Ronny Schedel 

>
> Only enter sv_pure without anything behind (no spaces, no parameters, just
> press enter after the e of sv_pure)
>
>
> > It's all the same. sv_pure by itself is what I originally tried. When I
> > saw
> > the response, I tried setting it. Same message.
> >
> > sv_pure
> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> > sv_pure 1
> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >
> > Server is already up to date :/
> >
> > Checking bootstrapper version ...
> > Updating Installation
> > Checking/Installing 'Counter-Strike Source Shared Content' version 74
> > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
> > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
> > Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
> > Checking/Installing 'Source Dedicated Server Linux' version 96
> > HLDS installation up to date
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Ronny Schedel
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Just enter sv_pure on the server console to see the current setting.
> >>
> >>
> >> >I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
> >> > Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
> >> > so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
> >> > bizarre response.
> >> >
> >> > I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> >> >> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I type in console:
> >> >> > sv_pure 1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Console responds:
> >> >> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server
> >> >> > has
> >> >> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread ics
For the sv_pure talk, i just have to say this. We ran sv_pure 1 for a 
year on our servers. Wallhacks didn't decrease compared to the past year 
before it. They do not use the material hacks that pure would stop, but 
the exe ones that will draw wireframe even if pure is on. Sv_pure is 
pretty much useless in my opinion.

-ics

Ronny Schedel kirjoitti:
> This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the 
> autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.
>
>
>   
>> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>> 
>>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>>>
>>> I type in console:
>>> sv_pure 1
>>>
>>> Console responds:
>>> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
>>> sv_cheats set to 1.
>>>
>>> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Ronny Schedel

Only enter sv_pure without anything behind (no spaces, no parameters, just 
press enter after the e of sv_pure)


> It's all the same. sv_pure by itself is what I originally tried. When I 
> saw
> the response, I tried setting it. Same message.
>
> sv_pure
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
> sv_pure 1
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
>
> Server is already up to date :/
>
> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> Updating Installation
> Checking/Installing 'Counter-Strike Source Shared Content' version 74
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
> Checking/Installing 'Source Dedicated Server Linux' version 96
> HLDS installation up to date
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Ronny Schedel 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just enter sv_pure on the server console to see the current setting.
>>
>>
>> >I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
>> > Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
>> > so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
>> > bizarre response.
>> >
>> > I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>> >> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>> >> >
>> >> > I type in console:
>> >> > sv_pure 1
>> >> >
>> >> > Console responds:
>> >> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server 
>> >> > has
>> >> > sv_cheats set to 1.
>> >> >
>> >> > How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Chris
It's all the same. sv_pure by itself is what I originally tried. When I saw
the response, I tried setting it. Same message.

sv_pure
Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
sv_cheats set to 1.
sv_pure 1
Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
sv_cheats set to 1.

Server is already up to date :/

Checking bootstrapper version ...
Updating Installation
Checking/Installing 'Counter-Strike Source Shared Content' version 74
Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
Checking/Installing 'Source Dedicated Server Linux' version 96
HLDS installation up to date

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Ronny Schedel wrote:

>
> Just enter sv_pure on the server console to see the current setting.
>
>
> >I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
> > Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
> > so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
> > bizarre response.
> >
> > I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
> >
> >> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> >> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >> >
> >> > I type in console:
> >> > sv_pure 1
> >> >
> >> > Console responds:
> >> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> >> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >> >
> >> > How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Ronny Schedel
This will not work for the first map. He has to specify it in the 
autoexec.cfg or on the start command line of the server.


> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>>
>> I type in console:
>> sv_pure 1
>>
>> Console responds:
>> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
>> sv_cheats set to 1.
>>
>> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Miano, Steven M.
You should only be typing:

 sv_pure

Not sv_pure 1

When you give it the argument of 1 it looks like you're trying to change the 
parameter.

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Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
bizarre response.

I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:

> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >
> > I type in console:
> > sv_pure 1
> >
> > Console responds:
> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Ronny Schedel

Just enter sv_pure on the server console to see the current setting.


>I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
> Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
> so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
> bizarre response.
>
> I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
>
>> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>> >
>> > I type in console:
>> > sv_pure 1
>> >
>> > Console responds:
>> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
>> > sv_cheats set to 1.
>> >
>> > How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Chris
The game is CSS. I'll run the update now. It's turned off.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:44 PM, David A. Parker  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Which game are you encountering this in, and are the server files up to
> date?
>
> - Dave
>
> Chris wrote:
> > I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
> > Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
> > so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
> > bizarre response.
> >
> > I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
> >
> >> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> >>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >>>
> >>> I type in console:
> >>> sv_pure 1
> >>>
> >>> Console responds:
> >>> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> >>> sv_cheats set to 1.
> >>>
> >>> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread David A. Parker
Hello,

Which game are you encountering this in, and are the server files up to 
date?

 - Dave

Chris wrote:
> I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
> Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
> so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
> bizarre response.
> 
> I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:
> 
>> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>>
>> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
>>> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
>>>
>>> I type in console:
>>> sv_pure 1
>>>
>>> Console responds:
>>> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
>>> sv_cheats set to 1.
>>>
>>> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Chris
I have always had it in the server.cfg and it's still there.
Someone was complaining that I don't have it turned on,
so I went to the server console to check, and saw that
bizarre response.

I just now rebooted the server, but it did not help.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:35 PM, f0rkz  wrote:

> Try using it in your server.cfg file.
>
> On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> > Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> >
> > I type in console:
> > sv_pure 1
> >
> > Console responds:
> > Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> > sv_cheats set to 1.
> >
> > How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread f0rkz
Try using it in your server.cfg file.

On Wed, 2010-01-20 at 13:21 -0500, Chris wrote:
> Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.
> 
> I type in console:
> sv_pure 1
> 
> Console responds:
> Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
> sv_cheats set to 1.
> 
> How is that possible?
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Re: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

2010-01-20 Thread Allan Button
Is that from the client or the server console?

If its from the client console ( and I assume its not a listen server, you are 
on hlds_linux ) then you need to rcon the command.

What game is this on?

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Subject: [hlds_linux] sv_pure...cheat?

Simple to explain. I'm at a loss here.

I type in console:
sv_pure 1

Console responds:
Can't use cheat command sv_pure in multiplayer, unless the server has
sv_cheats set to 1.

How is that possible?
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