[HornList] Valve Weight
> ...make a simple sketch of what... the rotor looks like inside > With the sketch, you'll have a place to notate the individual > dimensions as you estimate (SNIP!) *** Then Carl Bang said: > naked rotor weighs in at 2.3 oz Yep, that was pretty much what I was looking for. While it's a cinch to get weight charts for brass rod off the net, I didn't think I could get very close with figuring the port cutouts. The bloomin' things don't weigh that much to begin with, so being off a couple of ounces wouldn't be of much help. Thanks everybody, jrc in SC ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Conn lead pipes - Thanks for responses
Thanks all for your informative comments. I guess the thing to do is call my local repairman (Randy Ulmer) and have him order a stock Conn pipe direct from the factory. It seems that the responses imply that the quality of the new Conn pipes should be pretty consistent so there is no need to sample a few before selecting one. Thanks again for those who offered advice (or their lead pipes). Best, Marc Cerri NYC ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Second Chance Scam (EBAY)
Hi, I have sold about 300 times on Ebay so far. If a buyer backs out I can offer the item to the next highest bidder with a "Second Chance" offer through Ebay. Ebay does this to keep me from contacting the buyers directly and cutting Ebay's sale profit. This week a few of us got Second Chance offers on a horn we had bid for. My bid was so low I really didn't understand why they would consider selling it to me on the bounce. This was a scam, I was lucky in that I knew the seller and his address did not match the second chance offer's sellers. A bigger Scam clue was that the instructions were to contact the Second Chance seller directly. There is no reason Ebay would do this, it would cut into their profit for a direct sale to take place with Ebay out of the loop. If you get a Second Chance offer that tells you to respond directly to the seller it is a scam. If you get one that makes you work through Ebay it is most likely legit. Regards, Leonard in Laredo ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Now HOLTON lead pipes...
I need a leadpipe for my Holton H-179. If you have one that you keep tripping over and that you've sworn to sell before one more year goes by, now may be your last chance. Let me know, jrc in SC ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Unaccompanied Horn
A senior here at Capital recently performed the Heiden Sonata. Here are the program notes she used. "Sonata for Horn and Piano was written in 1939 for Theodore Seder, the first horn of the Detroit Symphony that year. It begins in 2/2 time, using the piano to highlight changes throughout the movement. Contrasting periods of calm and energy carry the movement to it's final half-time statement of the theme. The second movement is a minuet, with a vivace section contrasting horn and piano, and a soothing coda. The finale is a dance-like rondo showing independence of horn and piano parts." Hope that is helpful. Michael Moore Student ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [HornList] Valve Weight
naked rotor weighs in at 2.3 oz. Carl Bangs shade tree horn mechanic Ray and Sonja Crenshaw wrote: A, mates and maties! (insert vague, pointless pirate music soundtrack here) If any of you guys happen to have a valve rotor from double horn laying around, and you happen to see a postal scale sitting nearby, then you're who I'm looking for. Would you please stick a valve rotor on the postal scale and tell my how much it weighs? I realize the weight wouldn't be the same for all horns, but I'm thinking they'd be close... with the exception of the those tiny change valves on Conn 8d horns and their cousins. I could take my Holton apart and check this, but I'd rather not. However, if no one answers, I'm going to. Thanks, jrc in SC (who does, thank you, also work on his own car) ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bangs%40cet.com . ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [HornList] Valve Weight
Don't bother with taking a horn apart. Set up a simple calculation. The web will have any numbers you need, and you can probably get within a few percent if you hold a ruler up to the horn and estimate internal dimensions. Do you remember those formulas they taught you in high school? They're on the web, too, if you're not quite sure. You might get better accuracy if you make a simple sketch of what you are pretty the rotor looks like inside. With the sketch, you'll have a place to notate the individual dimensions as you estimate them. At this point, the complex rotor will be reduced to a collection very simple shapes. Calculate the weight of each shape using the density of the rotor material, and add them together to get the total weight of the rotor. If you want to check your accuracy, take the horn apart, weigh the rotor, and see how close you came. At least, that's how this rocket scientist would approach the problem. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org