RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
Many do never need copies of all these works. And, as Kopprasch is published by a certain company, it is still under copyright as long as this particular company exists, e.g. Breitkopf & Haertel published (and edited) pieces before 1800. These pieces are still sold by the same company. So they are under copyright protection, no matter the author died over hundred years ago. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Houston Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:21 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music I'd guess that he was kidding about selling copies on eBay, unless Kopprach is no longer under copyright (I haven't checked). The CD's I used as an example include collections of public-domain works that are not under copyright. They're an invaluable resource for community orchestras and for individuals who could never afford to buy printed copies of all those works. And the technology they use - PDF files - would be perfect for displaying music on a laptop. Why would you assume the worst? Everyone here probably has a good understanding of copyright issues. Most of us are guilty of having a sense of humor, though. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music But how about the copyright ? Otherwise very "lawful people" ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks
date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 20:04:05 -0800 from: Robert Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks From Dave Krehbiel - "Perfect! If anything, it was a little off." From Jeff Cole - "It was good, though" ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks
hehe Dave K... "Well, the nice thing about a masterclass is that you get the chance to try it again." The second time WAS better... Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks
From Dave Krehbiel - "Perfect! If anything, it was a little off." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks
My favorite quote; heard it twice from two different teachers: "You might want to rethink that." The best teachers encourage their students to solve their own problems. Gary ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Mozart Cadenzas by Chance?
Greetings - I heard a rumor that there is a new system drawn from Mozart's aleatoric work to produce cadenzas for his four horn concertos. For the unfinished one, there will be a limited number of choices. One one of the dice would be used, instead of the usual two. This would be an absolute Godsend to those challenged by questions like, "Oh, my God, what if I play it out of character?" I may have heard that this method will be published by Gamble Music, LLC, in Winnemucca, Nevada in 2005. Can anybody confirm this? Thanks. Regards, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO "There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] [not MD] recorder
Jeremy gives the following very useful analysis: < < < < < I would like to add my commentary, based on my ownership of the Marantz PMD 670 that he mentions. This is indeed a good unit and I would pretty much guarantee satisfaction to anyone that purchases it and replaces the supplied 64 MB flash card with a mini-hard drive to up the capacity into the gigabyte range. I have one that is 4 GB and makes it possible to record stereo WAV files of up to 5 hours (if I remember correctly). It has an internal mike handy for informal, decent quality, mono recording which suffices quite nicely for listening to your practice sessions or 21 hours of talk if you are into oral history or recording lectures, sermons and the like (but I wander OT). Settings allow for external mike or line input in addition to direct digital input. Not cheap (by shopping around, you can bring the package in for under $1,000), but cheap IS cheap for all the demanding audio uses that you might put the unit to. I feel that having something that, set recording levels, create high quality audio files (ie; NOT mp3) from tapes, LPs, live sources, etc., enables you to edit and gather them onto a CDR or data disc or just listen to them on your computer (or through the reasonably decent internal speaker was well worth the expenditure. I bought a SanDisk card reader for maybe $25-30 that attaches through a firewire port on my computer (you can easily install this yourself for around another $20 and it is very useful and faster than the USB that you probably already have) and the contents of the disc or mini-drive from your recorder (or digital camera) that is inserted can be read, copied or transferred to your hardrive seamlessly and very quickly. FWIW, I am the sort of person who records on Mitsui MAM-A gold discs that cost over a $ a pop rather than the 29 cent bargains that you can grab up on the net because I have had more that my share of experience with "bargain" audio and computer equipment over the years and I have determined that quality and longevity comes with a price tag (though I cannot say that my criteria for quality will be the same for anyone else). I don't drive a Mac, so I have no idea if it would be totally satisfactory used in conjunction with one, though I think that it is self-contained in so many respects, I would be surprised if transferring and working with files made on it was particularly difficult. So, my feeling is that this is the way to go if you are exacting in your demands for quality and flexibility, but is probably serious overkill if mp3s pressed on cheapo CDRs sound perfectly fine to you. Feel free to send inquiries to me directly here or at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter (still looking for an original distinctive signoff tagline) Hirsch -- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Partials (hitting the fundamental)
> Perhaps your mistake stems from the fact that you > do not play with professional trumpet players > I am surprised that someone on this list does not > know the harmonic series Scott, I'm not sure where you're coming from with the above, but I'm going to assume that there's a much better person connected to your keyboard than the above makes you out to be. You are okay, and you are among friends. So, please read on... I think it comes down to, "What is a pedal tone?" Bringing in the players is a red herring. I'm not so much interested in what "some trumpet players" can do (btw: I, myself, can do it on a trumpet), therefore I never mentioned the players. I'm interested in what the trumpet can, and cannot, do; and most important to me, "Why" or "Why not?" Of course the instrument requires a player, but the instrument itself also has some characteristics. I can easily play nice, big, fat, usable pedal tones on the tuba, trombone, baritone horn, euphonium, Eb Smellophone, Horn, Flugelhorn, and Posthorn (both valved and natural). But a regular Bb trumpet just kinda drops off the cliff down there, and the pitch and "feel" you get makes it a pretty useless area to dwell in. There's no real "slot" for the notes, just a nebulous black hole you could throw a cat through. Yes, I can play this fundamental low C (concert Bb) on the trumpet. And yes, I used to play trumpet, and I got paid for it. I was not, however, a "professional" trumpet player. And I can also make a tuner smile upon my flatulent, low-key trumpet machinations, but I've never consider them pedal tones. Just for something to do, I decided to (with no foreknowledge of what I was up to) consult two the professional trumpet players that I obviously "do not play with" (chortle) to get their opinions on the matter. Not that this is the final word on the matter, but their thinking is certainly valid as they make a living with their trumpets. Their thoughts? Though both of them practice the trumpet's lower register, when confronted with my original question of, "Does a Bb trumpet have pedal tones?" both answered, "no." I think Strauss (others?) actually called for the trumpet to play notes in this out-of-range area of the trumpet. So, I'd like to not argue about what a trumpet does, and talk about what characterizes a "pedal tone." Also, I don't mind being wrong. If consensus is reached that what a Bb trumpet does on and around its fundamental can be called a pedal tone, then it means I've picked up a wrong definition of the phrase "pedal tone." jrc ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks
At 8:05 PM -0500 1/16/05, LOTP wrote: >A wrong note played timidly is a mistake. A wrong note played with >conviction is an interpretation. (!) Very nice "Quote of the Day!" Thanks. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO "There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks
A wrong note played timidly is a mistake. A wrong note played with conviction is an interpretation. (!) - Original Message - From: "Ronald V. Rhodes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hornlist" Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 5:24 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Profound Remarks > One of my pet theories is that if you hang around someone long enough, they > will eventually say something profound. It might take 30 years, as in the > case of one of my neighbors. He uttered nothing but inanities for that > time, then one day when I was complaining to him about neighborhood dogs > barking, he suddenly became thoughtful and said "Who knows why dogs bark?" > which for him was quite profound. That's the other thing about this > theory - the listener know right away when the profundity is uttered. > > This theory especially applies to horn teachers - you probably don't have to > wait 30 years to recognize their profound sayings. I studied several > summers with the late Joseph Singer of the NY Phil., showing up at one > lesson with a question about a piece of repertoire, noting that "I really > don't know how to solve this." Mr. Singer replied "Well Ronald, you wanted > to play the horn ... Now Play!" This made a deep impression on me, > although I really don't remember if the problem was ever solved or not. > > Earlier, I had a few lessons with the late Ross Taylor when he was in San > Francisco. During one lesson he exclaimed "You played that wrong note with > such conviction that you ALMOST made me think it was correct." There is a > lesson here to try to play with as much conviction as possible. > > You may remember profound remarks from your own studies. > > Ron Rhodes > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lotp%40comcast.net > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Profound Remarks
One of my pet theories is that if you hang around someone long enough, they will eventually say something profound. It might take 30 years, as in the case of one of my neighbors. He uttered nothing but inanities for that time, then one day when I was complaining to him about neighborhood dogs barking, he suddenly became thoughtful and said "Who knows why dogs bark?" which for him was quite profound. That's the other thing about this theory - the listener know right away when the profundity is uttered. This theory especially applies to horn teachers - you probably don't have to wait 30 years to recognize their profound sayings. I studied several summers with the late Joseph Singer of the NY Phil., showing up at one lesson with a question about a piece of repertoire, noting that "I really don't know how to solve this." Mr. Singer replied "Well Ronald, you wanted to play the horn ... Now Play!" This made a deep impression on me, although I really don't remember if the problem was ever solved or not. Earlier, I had a few lessons with the late Ross Taylor when he was in San Francisco. During one lesson he exclaimed "You played that wrong note with such conviction that you ALMOST made me think it was correct." There is a lesson here to try to play with as much conviction as possible. You may remember profound remarks from your own studies. Ron Rhodes ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
I'd guess that he was kidding about selling copies on eBay, unless Kopprach is no longer under copyright (I haven't checked). The CD's I used as an example include collections of public-domain works that are not under copyright. They're an invaluable resource for community orchestras and for individuals who could never afford to buy printed copies of all those works. And the technology they use - PDF files - would be perfect for displaying music on a laptop. Why would you assume the worst? Everyone here probably has a good understanding of copyright issues. Most of us are guilty of having a sense of humor, though. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The Horn List'" Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music But how about the copyright ? Otherwise very "lawful people" ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
This was not directed toward you personally. And I said clearly, "If you >have bought your sheet music, you might scan it & use on the laptop as >you like, but for yourself incl. your family, but you cannot distribute >it to third persons." But you are not entitled to display it e.g. on your web site where anybody could download it free. Playing from scanned & laptop displayed music which is in ones possession actually, is no problem at all. We in the orchestra, are not allowed to use copies except we have the original on the music stand also. There might be a control by some agent of the authors society If we were without these (rare) controls, the publishing business would break down quickly. The result were: no more nw publications. Basta ! == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlberg Jones Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:45 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music At 9:39 PM +0100 1/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >But how about the copyright ? Otherwise very "lawful people" > >Does anybody think, publishers & editors be silly enough let this >happen. People work hard preparing sheet music to be published, but you >just scan it & distribut it ?? Are you just joking around ? If you >have bought your sheet music, you might scan it & use on the laptop as >you like, but for yourself incl. your family, but you cannot distribute >it to third persons. This is against the copyright laws. "Fair use" allows me to scan, print, and display music I own as I wish. I would never distribute copyrighted material. Not all material is copyrighted. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO "There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
At 9:39 PM +0100 1/16/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >But how about the copyright ? Otherwise very "lawful people" > >Does anybody think, publishers & editors be silly enough let this >happen. People work hard preparing sheet music to be published, but you >just scan it & distribut it ?? Are you just joking around ? If you have >bought your sheet music, you might scan it & use on the laptop as you >like, but for yourself incl. your family, but you cannot distribute it >to third persons. This is against the copyright laws. "Fair use" allows me to scan, print, and display music I own as I wish. I would never distribute copyrighted material. Not all material is copyrighted. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO "There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
But how about the copyright ? Otherwise very "lawful people" Does anybody think, publishers & editors be silly enough let this happen. People work hard preparing sheet music to be published, but you just scan it & distribut it ?? Are you just joking around ? If you have bought your sheet music, you might scan it & use on the laptop as you like, but for yourself incl. your family, but you cannot distribute it to third persons. This is against the copyright laws. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Houston Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music From: "Carlberg Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music > > Yep. I'm going to sell them on e-Bay. That way everyone around the > world can share the joy of Kopprasch. > > Seriously, though, wouldn't you imagine that the CD you cited would > generally be used as a source for printed music? For me it is, because I don't have a suitable laptop. I've bought 3 of the CD libraries, and print the music on high-quality white paper. The results have been great. But while selecting what to print, I've noticed that the on-screen displays are quite crisp and easy to read. That's why I thought of these when you mentioned using a laptop for Kopprasch. I was trying to support your idea, and suggesting that PDF files might be a good way to do it. Anyone with a (free) Acrobat reader would be able to use them. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Poème Nocturne by Eechaute
Hi, William. I did a Google search and found the following info at http://www.svm.be/siteuk/lijstuk.htm. Below is the text from the site. If you visit the site, you will need to click on "details" next to van Eechaute and follow a few links to get to the frame with the biographical info. Regards, Linda : PROSPER VAN EECHAUTE (Ghent, 2 July 1904 - Ghent, 26 June 1964) Van Eechaute studied at the Ghent Royal Conservatory with Emile Mathieu and Martin Lunssens amongst others. In addition to first prizes for cello, harmony, chamber music, counterpoint and fugue, he obtained the Emile Mathieu prize for composition in 1930 with a viola sonata. Three years later the Prize of Rome was awarded to him for the cantata De bekering van de heilige Hubertus (The Conversion of Saint Hubertus) on a text of Isidoor van Beugem. His career was mainly devoted to the pedagogics of music. At the Ghent conservatory he was consecutively a teacher of solfège, harmony, counterpoint and fugue, and from 1938 to his death he was director of the Kortrijk (Courtrai) municipal conservatory. His pedagogical activities would outshine his productivity as a composer. Van Eechaute distinguished himself above all with his vocal works. These ranged from music for large-scale open-air performances such as the Guldensporenspel (Battle of the Spurs Play) and the Rodenbachspel, to intimistic songs. Several of his songs have an impressionistic touch, which is also prominent in some instrumental works. In his String Quartet op. 8 (for which the Royal Academy awarded him a prize in 1949) and the Sonatina for Piano op. 11, he combines classical structures with novelties from French impressionism. In later works, such as the Nachtpoëma (Night Poem) for Horn and Orchestra he returns to a post-romantic lyricism. Written in 1938, this composition had its premiere in Kortrijk as late as 17 November 1962, with the famous Maurice Van Bocxstaele as horn soloist. Prosper Van Eechaute himself conducted his own work. Jan Dewilde (translation: Jo Sneppe) (c) Centre for the Study of Flemish Music -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2005 15:48 To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Poème Nocturne by Eechaute Hello. I am seeking information on the piece 'Poème Nocturne' by Pr. van Eechaute. I would like to know the dates of this composer, and more about the piece. I'm playing it on my next recital on the 25th of this month, so I'm looking for more background about it. Also, how does one pronounce his last name? This piece is absolutely gorgeous, so I'm definitely curious about the background of the composer and/or the piece itself. -William ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lacornista%40mindspring.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
From: "Carlberg Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music Yep. I'm going to sell them on e-Bay. That way everyone around the world can share the joy of Kopprasch. Seriously, though, wouldn't you imagine that the CD you cited would generally be used as a source for printed music? For me it is, because I don't have a suitable laptop. I've bought 3 of the CD libraries, and print the music on high-quality white paper. The results have been great. But while selecting what to print, I've noticed that the on-screen displays are quite crisp and easy to read. That's why I thought of these when you mentioned using a laptop for Kopprasch. I was trying to support your idea, and suggesting that PDF files might be a good way to do it. Anyone with a (free) Acrobat reader would be able to use them. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
At 11:41 AM -0800 1/16/05, Jerry Houston wrote: >The Orchestra Musician's CD-ROM Library creates PDF files, and sells them on >CD. That seems very much like what you plan to do. Yep. I'm going to sell them on e-Bay. That way everyone around the world can share the joy of Kopprasch. Seriously, though, wouldn't you imagine that the CD you cited would generally be used as a source for printed music? C Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO "There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
From: "Carlberg Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music I was thinking Kopprasch just now, after scanning some more maps, and it hit me! Scan the Kopprasch! I take my laptop, and its display is crisp and clear, and music is easy to read. The Orchestra Musician's CD-ROM Library creates PDF files, and sells them on CD. That seems very much like what you plan to do. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Traveling, Practicing & Hauling Music
Greetings - For a few years I've been scanning and printing parts of road atlases for road travel to avoid dealing with a large book. The 8.5 x 11" sheets of paper are much easier to handle. I was thinking Kopprasch just now, after scanning some more maps, and it hit me! Scan the Kopprasch! I take my laptop, and its display is crisp and clear, and music is easy to read. So, I'll scan all the Kopprasch and leave the music at home. I'm leaving this week on a two-week road trip through western Mexico, Colima, Puerto Vallarta, Mazatlan, Culiacan, Durango and Zacatecas. Regards, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO "There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders
Nomad Jukebox 3 has a recording function. The Zen models do not. -William In a message dated 1/16/2005 10:34:05 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What Creative Nomad were you looking at? The models I checked out had no recording function. Chris ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders
It seems to me that if you're going to record digitally, that Compact Flash just won't cut it. A 2 GB CF cartridge is 90 dollars, however that will not get you far beyond 2 or 3 hours of recording. If you wanted to record two recitals in one night, or two in one day, you'd have to swap them out or buy a second cartridge. The Nomad I have allows you to adjust levels, and select either a line in recording or mic-in recording. -William In a message dated 1/16/2005 9:07:10 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Edirol R1: Everything one needs, although it is a little strange to use compact flash rather than a hard drive. I'm not sure if it will mount as a volume, or if you would need one of those (very inexpensive) CF USB readers. The Marantz PMD670 also seems similar. The drawback to these models is that they are very expensive. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] MP3/MD Players/Recorders
I have an iRiver ihp-140 multi-codec player. It has a record facility, and optical/line in and out. It has 40Gb hard disk storage which has swallowed my 100 odd CD collection with consummate ease. It handles MP3, WMA and Ogg-Vorbis file formats, and can record in MP3 and Wave file formats. I find the Ogg-Vorbis sound quality more than acceptable, and better than MP3. If you really want to pick up every last detail of a recording then Wave format is the way to go with the iHP-140, but you'll need an external mic. The only sang is that Ogg-Vorbis encoding is not yet fully supported by Windows; there are Ogg-Vorbis direct sound plug ins for Windows Media Player, and WinAmp has Ogg-Vorbis support built in. For encoding I use Ahead Nero on Windows with the Ogg-Vorbis encoding plug in, and there is a good music library manager from Red Chair software for the iRiver series. I can thoroughly recommend this player. Steve Williams. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Baumann & Re: Intonation in different registers
"As my range slowly increases and my familiarity with the horn also increases, I've noticed that the 10th partial (written top space E, concert A) is decidedly flatter than the 5th partial (written bottom line E) on my horn; not by a lot but it's noticeable. And for that matter, the 8th partial is flatter than the 4th." This reminds me of my Baumann story. I attended a master class he did at the San Francisco Conservatory in the mid 80's. He played something on natural horn and I saw that he was opening his hand for the written E's. I would estimate that he did about a 20% more open hand position for those 5th & 10th harmonics. So in the question period I asked him "what are you doing with your hand on the E's?" to which he got mad and said he was not doing anything. I knew differently . . . . Richard Burdick 1st Horn Regina Symphony Regina, SK Canada ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
Ah. I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one piece, and liked the way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm going to stick with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since they're relatively inexpensive. My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a 15 is fair game for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12, and 15, plus a gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see what, if any, difference there is. The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G or S, if memory serves), cost me all of $100 in total. I guess these were all discounts or closeouts of some sort. -S- > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim > > Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a > Lawson. I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli. > > > Chris > --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see > > > > http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968 > > > > -S- > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco > > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM > > > To: The Horn List > > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim > > > > > > Make sure there is a return policy. I found out the hard way I > > > prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold > plating. > > > I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and > gold cup for > > > a very funky looking mouthpiece! > > > > > > Chris > > > --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time > being but I'd > > > > like to try a gold rim. http://www.giardinelli.com is out > > > of stock on > > > > the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd > > > like to find another source. > > > > > > > > If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, > > > please let me know. > > > > Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, > that would > > > > be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one. > > > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > -S- > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > > > unsubscribe or set options at > > > > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > > ___ > > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > > unsubscribe or set options at > > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc > > omputer.com > > > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a Lawson. I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli. Chris --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see > > http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968 > > -S- > > > -Original Message- > > From: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco > > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM > > To: The Horn List > > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim > > > > Make sure there is a return policy. I found out the hard way > > I prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold > > plating. I was however able to replace it with a silver rim > > and gold cup for a very funky looking mouthpiece! > > > > Chris > > --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd > > > like to try a gold rim. http://www.giardinelli.com is out > > of stock on > > > the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd > > like to find another source. > > > > > > If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, > > please let me know. > > > Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be > > > fine with me, too - I don't need a new one. > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > -S- > > > > > > ___ > > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > > unsubscribe or set options at > > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc > omputer.com > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968 -S- > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim > > Make sure there is a return policy. I found out the hard way > I prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold > plating. I was however able to replace it with a silver rim > and gold cup for a very funky looking mouthpiece! > > Chris > --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd > > like to try a gold rim. http://www.giardinelli.com is out > of stock on > > the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd > like to find another source. > > > > If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, > please let me know. > > Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be > > fine with me, too - I don't need a new one. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > -S- > > > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
Make sure there is a return policy. I found out the hard way I prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold plating. I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and gold cup for a very funky looking mouthpiece! Chris --- Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd like to > try a gold rim. http://www.giardinelli.com is out of stock on the gold rim > and isn't expecting them until March so I'd like to find another source. > > If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, please let me know. > Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be fine > with me, too - I don't need a new one. > > Many thanks. > > -S- > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time being but I'd like to try a gold rim. http://www.giardinelli.com is out of stock on the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd like to find another source. If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand, please let me know. Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell, that would be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one. Many thanks. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: MD recorders
What Creative Nomad were you looking at? The models I checked out had no recording function. Chris --- Jeremy Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is the breakdown as best I can tell. The market is in a sorry state, > and there seems to be no perfect product. Most recorders either record in > mp3 format or do not allow faster than realtime digital transfer to your > computer. > > Nomad Jukebox: records in uncompressed WAV, but some models do not allow > adjustment of levels. Apparently does not mount as a desktop volume, so > special transfer software is needed. > > Iriver 140: seems to do the trick, but has terrible reviews about quality > control and durability. Other models do not allow the adjustment of line > levels. > > Sony Hi-MD: "Compatible" with uncompressed WAV format, but it seems from the > literature that it only records in ATRAC and you must convert it. Also, the > conversion and transfer requires software that is Windows only and subject > to DRM. The Net-MD players are all no good. Many people buy them thinking > that the USB device included will allow the recorder to transfer digitally > to their machine. > > Edirol R1: Everything one needs, although it is a little strange to use > compact flash rather than a hard drive. I'm not sure if it will mount as a > volume, or if you would need one of those (very inexpensive) CF USB readers. > The Marantz PMD670 also seems similar. The drawback to these models is that > they are very expensive. > > Please update my information as needed. Note that my own hunt has been for a > recorder that is hard drive based, allows high-speed digital upload to a Mac > (preferable as a USB mass-storage device), accepts a microphone input, > records at least 1.5 hours, and allows adjustment of input levels while > recording. > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Clevenger playing Williams concerto 1/22 w/Bartlesville Symphony
Last Thursday, I was on a United flight from Chicago to Charlotte. As it was an early morning flight, I was in a bit of a daze. They were playing the pre-flight safety video, which ends with a Rhapsody in Blue lick on horn. Then I hear this guy two seats over say, "That's me playing that." Sure enough, I'm in 8C, and Dale Clevenger's in 8A. We chatted a bit and I brought up the John Williams concerto, which he said he'd be playing next weekend with the Bartlesville (Oklahoma) Symphony. Since the premiere performance, the concerto has grown to include a 90 second cadenza. So if anyone's in the greater Bartlesville, OK, metropolitan area next weekend, you'll have a chance to hear it. http://www.bartlesvillesymphony.org/concerts/season.html John Baumgart ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: MD recorders
Here is the breakdown as best I can tell. The market is in a sorry state, and there seems to be no perfect product. Most recorders either record in mp3 format or do not allow faster than realtime digital transfer to your computer. Nomad Jukebox: records in uncompressed WAV, but some models do not allow adjustment of levels. Apparently does not mount as a desktop volume, so special transfer software is needed. Iriver 140: seems to do the trick, but has terrible reviews about quality control and durability. Other models do not allow the adjustment of line levels. Sony Hi-MD: "Compatible" with uncompressed WAV format, but it seems from the literature that it only records in ATRAC and you must convert it. Also, the conversion and transfer requires software that is Windows only and subject to DRM. The Net-MD players are all no good. Many people buy them thinking that the USB device included will allow the recorder to transfer digitally to their machine. Edirol R1: Everything one needs, although it is a little strange to use compact flash rather than a hard drive. I'm not sure if it will mount as a volume, or if you would need one of those (very inexpensive) CF USB readers. The Marantz PMD670 also seems similar. The drawback to these models is that they are very expensive. Please update my information as needed. Note that my own hunt has been for a recorder that is hard drive based, allows high-speed digital upload to a Mac (preferable as a USB mass-storage device), accepts a microphone input, records at least 1.5 hours, and allows adjustment of input levels while recording. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Recent updates to hornplayer.net (16th January 2005)
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