[Hornlist] Scratchy Old 78-RPM Records

2005-01-18 Thread Alan Cole
Dear Friends,
Even though I have collected about 30 feet of old LPs  boxfuls of 45-rpm 
singles, plus bushels of stereo cassettes, I draw the line at 8-track 
cartridges  scratchy old 78s.  But check out the story linked below about 
a guy who's into 78s.

http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110006171
The author says some of those old stax of wax give valuable insights into 
early 20th-century performance practice (vocal style, string  wind 
articulation, flexible tempo  phrasing from the time when Brahms, Dvorak, 
Verdi,  Puccini were at work).

-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread Steve Freides
For a jeweler whose never done this, are any particular instructions
necessary other than gold plating?  Thickness, 14 vs 24 or whatever carats
(sp?) - anything like that?

-S- 

 -Original Message-
 From: 
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Richard V. West
 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:20 PM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 Hi Steve:
 
 If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated. 
 The cost is generally fairly minimal, especially compared to 
 purchasing a new gold plated rim. I've done this several 
 times with my silver screw rims. Look up silver and gold 
 plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that, 
 sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
 instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
 
 Richard in Seattle
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 
  Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one 
 piece, and liked the
  way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm 
 going to stick
  with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since 
 they're relatively
  inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a 
 15 is fair game
  for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12, 
 and 15, plus a
  gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see 
 what, if any,
  difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from
  Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G 
 or S, if memory
  serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were 
 all discounts
 or
  closeouts of some sort.
 
  -S-
 
   -Original Message-
   From:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
   To: The Horn List
   Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
  
   Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a
   Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
  
  
   Chris
   --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
   
http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
   
-S-
   
 -Original Message-
 From:
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C 
 series Gold Rim

 Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the 
 hard way I
 prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
   plating.
 I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
   gold cup for
 a very funky looking mouthpiece!

 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
   being but I'd
  like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
 of stock on
  the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
 like to find another source.
 
  If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
 please let me know.
  Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
   that would
  be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.
 
  Many thanks.
 
  -S-
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread Tim Costen
My trumpet playing / repairing friend Will Spencer does plating of 
mouthpieces and instruments here in the UK. He does a 3 micron 24 carat 
coating, costing about $30 US.

See http://www.willspencer.org/
Tim Costen
--On Tuesday, January 18, 2005 09:54:20 -0500 Steve Freides 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

For a jeweler whose never done this, are any particular instructions
necessary other than gold plating?  Thickness, 14 vs 24 or whatever
carats (sp?) - anything like that?
-S-
-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
du] On Behalf Of Richard V. West
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:20 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
Hi Steve:
If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated.
The cost is generally fairly minimal, especially compared to
purchasing a new gold plated rim. I've done this several
times with my silver screw rims. Look up silver and gold
plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that,
sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
Richard in Seattle
- Original Message -
From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one
piece, and liked the
 way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm
going to stick
 with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since
they're relatively
 inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a
15 is fair game
 for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12,
and 15, plus a
 gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see
what, if any,
 difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from
 Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G
or S, if memory
 serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were
all discounts
or
 closeouts of some sort.

 -S-

  -Original Message-
  From:
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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
  Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
  To: The Horn List
  Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
  Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a
  Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
 
 
  Chris
  --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
  
   http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
  
   -S-
  
-Original Message-
From:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C
series Gold Rim
   
Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the
hard way I
prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
  plating.
I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
  gold cup for
a very funky looking mouthpiece!
   
Chris
--- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
  being but I'd
 like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
of stock on
 the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
like to find another source.

 If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
please let me know.
 Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
  that would
 be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.

 Many thanks.

 -S-

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RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Gold plating is done in a galvanic process using 24-carat gold (pure
gold). The usual thicness is 5 micron to 15 micron.  A micron is 1/1000
of a mm.

You dont need to bring the mouthpiece to a jeweller, as he will not do
the gold plating himself. There are galvanic companies providing plating
service from chromium to gold, as said before. There are even (more
rare) companies specialized into silver  gold plating. Before gold
plating the piece has to be polished, ultra sonic degreased and silver
plated first. If it has not to be done in a rush, things go cheaper as
to be plated together with otzer customers things.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve
Freides
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:54 PM
To: 'The Horn List'
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim


For a jeweler whose never done this, are any particular instructions
necessary other than gold plating?  Thickness, 14 vs 24 or whatever
carats
(sp?) - anything like that?

-S- 

 -Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Richard V. West
 Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 8:20 PM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 Hi Steve:
 
 If you already have a silver screw rim, get it goldplated.
 The cost is generally fairly minimal, especially compared to 
 purchasing a new gold plated rim. I've done this several 
 times with my silver screw rims. Look up silver and gold 
 plating firms in your yellow pages or, failing that, 
 sometimes music stores (particularly those specializing in brass
 instruments) can get it done for you or recommend a source.
 
 Richard in Seattle
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 9:56 AM
 Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
 
 
  Ah.  I've tried one Giardinelli mouthpiece, a C12 one
 piece, and liked the
  way I sound on it much better than on anything else, so I'm
 going to stick
  with Giardinelli for the time being, particularly since
 they're relatively
  inexpensive.  My teacher said that anything from an 8 to a
 15 is fair game
  for me at this point in time, so I'm getting cups in 8, 12,
 and 15, plus a
  gold and a silver rim so that I can experiment a bit to see
 what, if any,
  difference there is.  The whole pile of cups and mouthpieces from 
  Giardinelli, including one or two of their other series (G
 or S, if memory
  serves), cost me all of $100 in total.  I guess these were
 all discounts
 or
  closeouts of some sort.
 
  -S-
 
   -Original Message-
   From:
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
   Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:53 AM
   To: The Horn List
   Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim
  
   Oh sorry, I wasn't referring to a Giardinelli rim, but to a 
   Lawson.  I like the S series of rims from Giardinelli.
  
  
   Chris
   --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Giardinelli sells the rim for less than $20, see
   
http://www.giardinelli.com/srs7/g=brass/s=french/search?c=6968
   
-S-
   
 -Original Message-
 From:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 du] On Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
 Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2005 11:37 AM
 To: The Horn List
 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C
 series Gold Rim

 Make sure there is a return policy.  I found out the
 hard way I
 prefer silver rims after buying a near $100 rim with gold
   plating.
 I was however able to replace it with a silver rim and
   gold cup for
 a very funky looking mouthpiece!

 Chris
 --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I've settled on Giardinelli mouthpieces for the time
   being but I'd
  like to try a gold rim.  http://www.giardinelli.com is out
 of stock on
  the gold rim and isn't expecting them until March so I'd
 like to find another source.
 
  If anyone knows of somewhere that's got them in hand,
 please let me know.
  Or, of course, if anyone has one they'd like to sell,
   that would
  be fine with me, too - I don't need a new one.
 
  Many thanks.
 
  -S-
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Scanning Kopprasch--copyright

2005-01-18 Thread McBeth, Amy J
Actually, it's more complicated than that.  It depends on if the work
was published or unpublished, if it carried a copyright notice or not,
when it became available, and if the copyright was renewed.  Throw into
that the Sonny Bono Act from a few years back, which extended copyright
coverage on works published between particular dates here in the U.S.,
and it gets really messy.

Then there are international copyright agreements...

A.

  

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Subject: [Hornlist] Scanning Kopprasch

As far as I know, the copyright expires on the author's 25th deathday.
That is, 25 years after he dies. (by the way, the beatles' copyright
might expire this year). However, copyrights can be renewed, and if this
is the case, it is illegal to sell or otherwise redistribute the
material. The publisher may have renewed the copyright. Talk to them
about it :)



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RE: [Hornlist] Scanning Kopprasch--copyright

2005-01-18 Thread Alan Cole
Sounds like another situation where the prospect of forgiveness afterwards 
is likelier than permission in advance.

-- Alan Cole, rank amateur
   McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA.
 ~
At 10:39 AM 1/18/2005, you wrote:
Actually, it's more complicated than that.  It depends on if the work
was published or unpublished, if it carried a copyright notice or not,
when it became available, and if the copyright was renewed.  Throw into
that the Sonny Bono Act from a few years back, which extended copyright
coverage on works published between particular dates here in the U.S.,
and it gets really messy.
Then there are international copyright agreements...
A.

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RE: [Hornlist] Scanning Kopprasch--copyright

2005-01-18 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 9:39 AM -0600 1/18/05, McBeth, Amy J wrote:
the Sonny Bono Act


This URL has some good information and plenty of links.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonny_Bono_Copyright_Term_Extension_Act

Regards,

Carlberg - e-Bay - Jones
Guanajuato, Gto.
MEXICO


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[Hornlist] RE: MD (late)

2005-01-18 Thread Wright, Jim
A year ago I decided I too wanted to record live performances of various sorts 
with high quality. I searched and could not find anything other than mini-disc 
that has a built-in mic preamp. There are plenty of memory- and HD-based units 
that have line-ins, but none I found with mic-in. For a year I've regularly 
recorded with a Sony MZ-N10 and a binaural condenser mic setup. The results 
have been outstanding. Yes, I have to upload to the PC stereo in (at 48khz)via 
analog and only realtime. Then edit, convert to 44.1khz and burn a CD. The 
nearly $400 Sony MZ-NH1 is advertised as permitting digital uploading of mic 
recordings. I haven't seen anyone post who is actually using a Nomad or 
whatever to do live concert recordings, though many have given opinions not 
backed by experience. (maybe I missed a post?)
Jim Wright
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[Hornlist] RE: Notation

2005-01-18 Thread Scott Hartman
Hiya,
I hate to throw in other languages, but I have friends from Bush 
country (Jeb AND W) and this is what they call them:

Really High C
High C in the staff
Easy C  but wobbles if ya been eatin pretzels
That C down there
That C way down there
Without scholarly use, but my friends from New York use this system:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] High C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] C in da staff
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Middle C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Low C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] C from Joisey,  if ya know what I'm talkin about
And in my home here in Northern California:
Schwartzenegger C
Slightly above the norm, but don't put too much pressure on it C
Ambient C
Medicinal C
The C that only speaks if it wants to, but that's OK because every 
note has a right to sound the way wants to C

snottito
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Re: [Hornlist] RE: MD (late)

2005-01-18 Thread sotone

Jim Wright wrote:  
...The nearly $400 Sony MZ-NH1 is advertised as permitting digital uploading 
of mic recordings. 

For just over $400 you can get a Digidesign Mbox, a very small, 2-channel USB 
powered audio peripheral.  It has 2 Focusrite mic preamps, 24-bit stereo 
S/PDIF digital I/O. It provides phantom power for mics, has 
balanced/unbalanced mic connections and a headphone output with volume 
control. The complete signal chain is 24-bit. 

What make it a bargain is that is comes with Pro Tools 5.2 LE software.
With a laptop and 2 mics you can make a pro quality recording, edit it and 
burn to CD.  


Cheers,
Steven Ovitsky
Executive Director
Santa Fe Chamber Music Festival

owner
Sotone Historic Recordings
www.sotone.com




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[Hornlist] Looking for Giardinelli C series Gold Rim

2005-01-18 Thread Jay Kosta
As Hans Pizka mentioned, the gold plating can be done in various thicknesses.
A mpc rim should have a thick plating because it is in constant 'rubbing'
contact with your lips - a thin gold 'flash plating' would wear off very
quickly. Thin plating is fine for objects that don't get handled much, but
a tool such as a mpc rim needs a thick plating inorder for the plating to
last.

You should discuss this with the person doing (or taking the order) for
your plating - if the person is not familiar with different plating
thicknesses, you should probably talk with someone else

Jay Kosta
Endwell NY
amateur player

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[Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread matthew scheffelman
While ADVICE can be provided to students and
professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
member or two seem to ask questions that teachers make
their living answering. 
It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to see
question after question after question that normally
one would ask a horn professor. 
Matthew Scheffelman
Horn



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RE: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread Loren Mayhew
   I can see why you might find this annoying. You can certainly make the
argument that since the professional makes his/her living teaching and
performing, then seeking out free advice borders on bad ethics and even
stealing in the sense you are depriving the professional of his/her source
of income. It seems, at least in the US, there is a great effort to gain all
you can for free or as close to free as possible.
   On the other hand, many professionals and other in the know do willingly
offer the advice of their own free choice. 
   Also, I would like to offer a defense of those who seek this advice. Even
if you have a horn teacher or professor who is your primary interface for
studying the horn, it is often quite useful to get a second opinion on a
solution for your problem or quest for a better way because someone else may
have a new idea or a different explanation that is just the answer you need
to get you over your hurdle.
   That is what happened to me at A.I.R. Horns last weekend. I've had a
problem in the low register which I have never been able to solve in a
satisfying way despite years of horn lessons. When I demonstrated the
problem to Charles Putnam of the American Horn Quartet, he offered a simple
solution that fixed the problem completely. Why no one else, including
myself, hadn't thought of it before, I can't explain, but there you go. 

Loren
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Subject: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

While ADVICE can be provided to students and
professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
member or two seem to ask questions that teachers make
their living answering. 
It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to see
question after question after question that normally
one would ask a horn professor. 
Matthew Scheffelman
Horn



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[Hornlist] RE: Notation

2005-01-18 Thread rob
Scott Hartman wrote:  I hate to throw in other languages, but I have 
friends from Bush  country (Jeb AND W) and this is what they call them: 
Really High C,  High C in the staff etc. 

Well, I am happy to throw in other laguages: 

middle c is: C sol fa ut (Cesolfaut)
below that is C fa ut (Cefaut)
an octave above middle C is C sol fa (Cesolfa) 

There is no notation for high C in Hexichordal theory. 

Richard Burdick
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[Hornlist] Profound Remark

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Play as you like, but PLAY ! - Sir George Solti in a dress rehearsal
to one of his very last concerts in Valencia (my orchestra playing Don
Juan, Till  Zarathustra) to the third horn, after messing up the third
horn solo twice first. I was just listening (did Don Juan 
Zarathustra), while my coordinate solo horn did Till.

Happen before Sir George Soltis death, shortly.

Cannot tell you, what´s the meaning of this spot here, because Ladies
in the orchestra.  - But, ---  that´s the meaning !! when rehearsing
Don Juan (Sir George Solti again ).

Or, Carlos Kleiber when rehearsing Rosenkavalier, the very beginning
third or  fourth line doooeet-doooeet-doooeet-- dh ! -  Yes, yes,
that´s IT, understand !

Prof.Hans Pizka, Pf.1136
D-85541 Kirchheim - Germany
Fax: 49 89 903-9414 Phone: 903-9548
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RE: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Matthew, you dare something  Are you trying to kill yourself ? Take
on your flame proof suit. Be prepared for many unqualified  preoccupied
bashings. Hallelujah !

(comment: Matt, you are on the right side !)




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While ADVICE can be provided to students and
professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
member or two seem to ask questions that teachers make
their living answering. 
It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to see
question after question after question that normally
one would ask a horn professor. 
Matthew Scheffelman
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Re: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread Walter E. Lewis
Matthew,
That's why your keyboard has a delete buttonSome of us feel that we are 
here to assist those whom maybe are many miles or kilometers away from a 
competent teacher and want to ask for knowledge. Horn playing IS more than 
just making money with the damned thing

Walt Lewis,
Very proud horn teacher and not afraid to offer assistance when asked.
At 10:40 AM 1/18/2005 -0800, you wrote:
While ADVICE can be provided to students and
professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
member or two seem to ask questions that teachers make
their living answering.
It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to see
question after question after question that normally
one would ask a horn professor.
Matthew Scheffelman
Horn

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Re: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread Walter E. Lewis
Sorry for the bad grammar, but I got just a bit hot under the collar...
I still stand by what I wrote
Walt Lewis
At 03:49 PM 1/18/2005 -0500, you wrote:
Matthew,
That's why your keyboard has a delete buttonSome of us feel that we 
are here to assist those whom maybe are many miles or kilometers away from 
a competent teacher and want to ask for knowledge. Horn playing IS more 
than just making money with the damned thing

Walt Lewis,
Very proud horn teacher and not afraid to offer assistance when asked.
At 10:40 AM 1/18/2005 -0800, you wrote:
While ADVICE can be provided to students and
professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
member or two seem to ask questions that teachers make
their living answering.
It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to see
question after question after question that normally
one would ask a horn professor.
Matthew Scheffelman
Horn

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[Hornlist] mystery horn

2005-01-18 Thread BARBARA LEE HUNTER
A new one just walked into my office - an ebay deal I fear.
Has anyone heard of this one? 
A Maxtone by French Engineers
My first instinct is to say send it back!
thanks
Barbara 

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Re: [Hornlist] Intonation in different registers

2005-01-18 Thread MARKSUERON
Hans,

on that third, do i want to hear a just major third or piano major third.  I 
think it's piano major third.

Ron
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[Hornlist] Sweet movie sounds - partly NHR

2005-01-18 Thread David Goldberg
Just saw A very long engagement - French film (Un long dimanche de
fiancailles) with English subtitles.

The HR part of this message is to say that there is some very sweet horn
playing throughout the film.  The background music is mostly simple, slow
and lyrical, and (of course?) the horn is chosen as an important emotive
generator.  There is probably little in the horn part other than easy
phrases of liquid half-notes.  The hornist is not named in the credits -
no one in the orchestra other than the 1st violinist is named.

Of semi-HR interest is that the protagoniste, Audrey Tautou (star of
Amelie), heartsick for her lover whom she believes to be lost in the great
war, plays the tuba for comfort.  As the story progresses - as her hopes
raise - her repertoire increases from only one note to several, mimicking
a little the horn part.  The credits list the name of the tuba professor
(Philip Porte), who presumably taught her what she knows how to do on that
great instrument.

Of NHR interest is the surprising appearance of Jodie Foster in a bit
role, speaking fast fluent French.

There are some humorous moments amidst graphic WWI violence depicting the
madness of war.  Wonderful, moving flick!


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Re: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread Mark Louttit
Matt,
Point well made, but then what about the individual who is playing the horn 
where there is no teacher of the horn available ?

Back in the 1960's when I was growing up I lived in a small town in Arizona 
and the closest horn teacher was 185 miles away in Phoenix and the next 
closest was 300 miles away in Tucson.  There was the Farkas book on the art 
of horn playing and some helpful teachers who had studied horn in brass 
methods class in college and that was it.  Oh to have had the internet back 
then and this and the other list.

Perhaps the situation has changed today and horn teachers proliferate 
everywhere, but I don't think that is the case.

Again as someone else suggested, we have delete buttons to seperate the 
wheat from the chaff.

With best wishes,
Mark L. 

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Re: [Hornlist] mystery horn

2005-01-18 Thread Mark Louttit
Follow your first instinct...still yet another example, I fear, of an eBay 
special made in China.

Mark L. 

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Re: [Hornlist] RE: Notation

2005-01-18 Thread christine williamson
And from those of us in the land Down Under (especially those who specialise in 
the cutting down of tall poppies)...

just a bit of a trouble-makin' loud-mouth C but we'll soon fix that but
it's an up and comin' C  nothin' really special but
pretty ordinary C really, never gets anywhere but
just a gruff ol' C who tries really hard but
a bit of a C*** really (err, oops, sorry!)

C - hris W



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Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:28:30 -0800

 
 Hiya,
 
 I hate to throw in other languages, but I have friends from Bush 
 country (Jeb AND W) and this is what they call them:
 
 Really High C
 High C in the staff
 Easy C  but wobbles if ya been eatin pretzels
 That C down there
 That C way down there
 
 Without scholarly use, but my friends from New York use this system:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] High C
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] C in da staff
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Middle C
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Low C
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] C from Joisey,  if ya know what I'm talkin about
 
 And in my home here in Northern California:
 
 Schwartzenegger C
 Slightly above the norm, but don't put too much pressure on it C
 Ambient C
 Medicinal C
 The C that only speaks if it wants to, but that's OK because every 
 note has a right to sound the way wants to C
 
 
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Re: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread G
Hi,

Then what exactly is this mailing list for?

Gary

--- matthew scheffelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While ADVICE can be provided to students and
 professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
 member or two seem to ask questions that teachers
 make
 their living answering. 
 It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
 but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to
 see
 question after question after question that normally
 one would ask a horn professor. 
 Matthew Scheffelman
 Horn
 
 
   
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[Hornlist] wisdom

2005-01-18 Thread David Goldberg
This isn't from a hornist - it is today's quotation from A.W.A.D.  Scary.
I suppose it could apply to horn playing.


Nothing is more dangerous than an idea when it's the only one you have.
-Emile Chartier, philosopher (1868-1951)



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RE: [Hornlist] mystery horn

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Seems to come from Pakistan or Brazil. I also watch this wave on Ebay.
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A new one just walked into my office - an ebay deal I fear. Has
anyone heard of this one? 
A Maxtone by French Engineers
My first instinct is to say send it back!
thanks
Barbara 

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RE: [Hornlist] Intonation in different registers

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Major third. That´s why playing together with a keyboard instrument is
rather difficult for a wind instrument player. That´s also the
difference between a musical instrument  the honky-tonk.

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Hans,

on that third, do i want to hear a just major third or piano major
third.  I 
think it's piano major third.

Ron
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RE: [Hornlist] Lessons being taught on the Memphis list.

2005-01-18 Thread hans
Not for a permanent teaching from scratch. But to answer individual
questions to solve problems. Yes, to exchange views  informations. Yes,
to entertain each other. Yes, to have fun. Yes, to do some brain
gymnastics.

No, to be a substitute for paid lessons.

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Hi,

Then what exactly is this mailing list for?

Gary

--- matthew scheffelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 While ADVICE can be provided to students and
 professionals of the horn on this list, it seems a
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 make
 their living answering.
 It is fine to assume that you are teaching yourself,
 but it is quite annoying, from my perspective, to
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 question after question after question that normally
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RE: [Hornlist] MD Recorders

2005-01-18 Thread Smit Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]
As far as I know, with the new series of Hi MD Recorders it is possible to 
upload to your computer digitally.
Check out Sony's web site.

 

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