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Re: [Hornlist] UK attack - NHR
Message text written by The Horn List Being a scientist, I used to have a big problem with fundamentalists. Dear All There is a Professor of Chemistry at Leeds Metropolitan University who is also a creationist Christian - is this a contradiction in terms (scientist vs creationist)? Personally, the most intolerant person in my circle of friends is an avowed atheist. The two most gentle people that I know are respectively a fundamentalist Christian and a Muslim. The London bombings took place last Thursday with 21 people killed on the tube between Kings Cross and Russell Square. I will be next in London on the Thursday morning next week - using the tube which runs from Kings Cross and through Russell Square. It makes you think!! Regards Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Recent updates to hornplayer.net (13th July 2005)
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[Hornlist] Braces for brass players
Braces which are attached behind the teeth, rather than in front, may be ideal for brass musicians who wish to continue playing while the braces are on. You can do a Google search for lingual orthodontics (which is what this is called). There was a presentation at the International Horn Society in June on this (by a dentist and hornplayer), and it sounded quite interesting. Bob Williams --- We've just been told my son, who will be 13 in a month or two, needs braces. I recall a discussion of an alternative kind of braces that, while a bit more expensive, worked better. Anyone have any specifics they can tell me? My son plays both horn and trumpet and the going is started starting to heat up for him as he has his first auditions for county-level band and the like this Fall. Thanks very much in advance. I will pass any information along to the orthodontist and let her make the final decision, of course. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] mouthpiece rim contours/dimensions
If I were playing a standard F horn, amoderately deep funnel easily produces the classic F horn tone so important to develop in young players before moving them on to modern equipment. For anyone interested in applying physics and common experience to choosing a cup shape, let me throw out some information that might not lead you to the conclusion you already feel in your heart, but that might aid some on doing some personal experimentation. The tone you get from a particular mouthpiece you may be using is very dependent on your personal concept of sound. Most of us learn to get the sound we want from the equipment we have. The obvious option is to change equipment. Suddenly changing to a deeper or shallower cup will make a very predictable change to your sound, but that initial change takes about a month to develop, until you achieve tyhe best sound you can get on the new equipment. This can lead to the very common love/hate relationship with a different mouthpiece every few days. Scott Laskey one explained to me that the proper depth of a mouthpiece scales with the length of the horn, which makes absolute sense from a phsics point of view. This implies that the deep funnel we like so much on our F horn is going to be too deep for our Bb horn, to produce a matching sound. Pop tone, a measure of the cup volume, has been found to be a very important factor to mouthpiece performance. If the deep funnel is s hortened to more closely match the Bb horn, the cup volume diminishes, raising the pop tone. Increasing the diameter of the cup, which most strong players do over time, gets the pop tone back down. A so called bowl shape cup is also used to increase volume. Before I lose players who prefer a funnel over a bowl, look at successful bowl shaped cups, and you quickly see they are really 'S' shaped. The bottom retains the funnel shape, and the volume is added just below the rim. Bach 3, or Schilke 31B, are very popular examples. As far as low playing goes, a deep funnel certainly favors the production of low notes, but that is very misleading to mouthpiece selection. I was specifically trained in fourth horn playing. The most difficult aspects of playing fourth are developing agility and a clear sound in the low register, but are absolutely essential to put a good bottom on a quartet. Since the horn plays an octave above it's length, the advantage of a deep cup is mostly irrelevant. Also, starting and stopping a long column of air is a slow process. An F horn with a deep funnel cup is going to be muddy and slow. However, a Bb horn with a shallower cup can move much more quickly, and doesn't waste energy trying to produce bass that the horn is not designed to play in the first place. It just muddies the tone. I find my Paxman 42M to be my best horn for playing fourth parts. With the F attachment on it and a few 'long' fingerings, I've even got enough F horn, C to C, to blend perfectly in that octave. Don't be afraid to experiment a bit to establish your own preferences. -Original Message- From: G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [Hornlist] mouthpiece rim contours/dimensions Do rim contours/dimensions influence tone? If yes - how so? - and - what might the physics be behind this? Hi, Yes. Some rims have a flat surface, with a definite inside edge. These rims can aid in staccato, as well as a more defined attack to a note, but can be a detriment to smooth legato playing. Some rims are more rounded on the surface, with less of an edge going into the cup. These rims can aid legato and slurs, but can be a detriment to staccato and more defined attacks. Which leads directely into the mouthpiece, which to me has more of an effect on tone than the contour of the rim...some mouthpieces have more of a cup, or bowl shape if you will. These mouthpieces can aid in a clearer high range, but can be a detriment to a good clear low range. Basically, the more cup, the brighter and more 'trumpet-like' the tone. Some mouthpieces have straighter sides, more like a funnel. These mouthpieces can aid in the production of a clearer low range, but can be a detriment to a good clear high range. Which leads directly to the bore, or diameter of the hole at the bottom of the cup, or funnel, of the mouthpiece. A smaller size bore can create a clearer, brighter high range, but can be a detriment to a clear, open low range. Some mouthpieces have a large diameter bore. These mouthpieces can aid in the creation of a more open, clearer low range, but can be a detriment to a clear, open high range. Farkas explained it best in The Art Of Horn Playing...you should find a mouthpiece that runs right down the middle of the extremes. A mouthpiece with a rounded surface and slight edge, with an inside that is between a cup and a funnel. That way you get a good compromise between
Re: [Hornlist] UK attack - NHR
I find it quite easy to be tolerant of another's faith, as long as his personal relationship with God (or not God) leads him to the fullness of life and joy that he seeks, and he is tolerant and non threatening to me and mine. If he takes seriously his god whispering in his ear that his obligation is to murder me and mine, I have no compunction to apply his own ambition to him. I recently had Orkin spray my house to exterminate scorpions, after we found several in the living room. I have a fifteen month old toddler crawling around. I didn't need to hear God to make that decision, nor do I need it to apply the same to terrorists. What makes me different from terrorists, because they are fellow human beings, I have given up my right to personal aggressive action or retribution. Civilized people leave such decisions to duly authorized collective consensus. -Original Message- From: Paul Kampen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:23:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] UK attack - NHR Message text written by The Horn List Being a scientist, I used to have a big problem with fundamentalists. Dear All There is a Professor of Chemistry at Leeds Metropolitan University who is also a creationist Christian - is this a contradiction in terms (scientist vs creationist)? Personally, the most intolerant person in my circle of friends is an avowed atheist. The two most gentle people that I know are respectively a fundamentalist Christian and a Muslim. The London bombings took place last Thursday with 21 people killed on the tube between Kings Cross and Russell Square. I will be next in London on the Thursday morning next week - using the tube which runs from Kings Cross and through Russell Square. It makes you think!! Regards Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Braces for brass players
I've been told by a couple of folks so far that these behind the teeth braces, while they might be better for brass playing, tend to interfere with normal speech. From everything I've heard both on and off this list since I asked the question, my inclination is just to go with regular braces and be sure my son has a couple of months to get used to them before he has any auditions or concerts. -S- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of Bob Williams Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2005 12:52 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Braces for brass players Braces which are attached behind the teeth, rather than in front, may be ideal for brass musicians who wish to continue playing while the braces are on. You can do a Google search for lingual orthodontics (which is what this is called). There was a presentation at the International Horn Society in June on this (by a dentist and hornplayer), and it sounded quite interesting. Bob Williams --- We've just been told my son, who will be 13 in a month or two, needs braces. I recall a discussion of an alternative kind of braces that, while a bit more expensive, worked better. Anyone have any specifics they can tell me? My son plays both horn and trumpet and the going is started starting to heat up for him as he has his first auditions for county-level band and the like this Fall. Thanks very much in advance. I will pass any information along to the orthodontist and let her make the final decision, of course. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridaysc omputer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
