RE: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
I'm unfamiliar with Noteworthy Composer but I thank you both for mentioning it - always good to know. For much of my living, I write computer software, and I consider myself a pretty picky user of computer software as a result, but I can find very little to complain about in Sibelius. For the musical portion of my living, I am often called upon to do choral arrangements, and handling text for voices can be tricky. Sibelius handles it about as well as I can imagine possible. As always, there is a proper tool for a specific job. I will try Noteworthy in the very near future. In the meantime, I'll continue to buy manuscript paper at the local music store. -S- > -Original Message- > From: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > du] On Behalf Of Steven Slaff > Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 5:30 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper > > Carl, > > I agree wholeheartedly! I've used Noteworthy Composer for > years because I never could afford the more expensive > compositions programs. It is admittedly not as > advanced/complex as Sibelius or Finale, but it definitely > gets the job done well and is very easy to use. > > Steven Slaff > > - Original Message - > From: Carl Bangs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2005 2:57 pm > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper > > Steve Freides wrote: > > > > >"Sibelius" is a popular music-writing program for computers. It > > cost me > > >about $250 with an educational discount (show my faculty ID at > > the music > > >store) and does everything one could ever wish for, including > > having a good > > >online support forum plus good telephone technical support. > > > > > >"Finale" is another program, an earlier iteration of which I used > > many years > > >ago. > > > > > >-S- > > > > > > > > > > > A better value is Noteworthy Composer. It has had substantial > > improvements made and does almost everything you could want, and is > > only $39.00. Check it out. > > > > It is shareware and can be downloaded at > > http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/ > > Carl Bangs > > > > ___ > > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > > unsubscribe or set options at > > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steven.slaff% > 40oberlin.edu > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays > computer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Carlberg Jones wrote:
(snippety)
By the way, my 8 x 11.5" 12-stave paper, No. BS4U, is available free of
charge in JPEG format or PDF.
Great offer! Okay - please send me a ream of your JPEG format music
paper.
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RE: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
At 5:32 PM -0400 10/4/05, Steve Freides wrote: >"Sibelius" is a popular music-writing program for computers. It cost me >about $250 with an educational discount (show my faculty ID at the music >store) and does everything one could ever wish for, including having a >good online support forum plus good telephone technical support. >"Finale" is another program, an earlier iteration of which I used many >years ago. Greetings - For $250 I could buy an awful lot of paper. I learned to draw straight lines in elementary school, so I guess I won't have to endure technical support. That alone is worth another $250, so I could buy two awful lots of paper, and share them with friends. Are we really imagining that buying a music engraving program to make staff paper is . . . OH! Cor blimey!!! It's Intelligent Design. YES, FOLKS, it's the new way of thinking. Dang, I should have learned that during my military service. I did learn that it took at least three months to weigh and measure everything in our band unit to determine how many CONARC containers we would need. Come to think of it, I don't think we ever did finish measuring and weighing, seeing as I was half of the supply section and I was always getting more stuff. I asked the Finale mailing list if Finale could make blank staff paper to user specifications and the answer was yes, with some finagling. By the way, my 8 x 11.5" 12-stave paper, No. BS4U, is available free of charge in JPEG format or PDF. Sincerely, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
Carl, I agree wholeheartedly! I've used Noteworthy Composer for years because I never could afford the more expensive compositions programs. It is admittedly not as advanced/complex as Sibelius or Finale, but it definitely gets the job done well and is very easy to use. Steven Slaff - Original Message - From: Carl Bangs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, October 4, 2005 2:57 pm Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper > Steve Freides wrote: > > >"Sibelius" is a popular music-writing program for computers. It > cost me > >about $250 with an educational discount (show my faculty ID at > the music > >store) and does everything one could ever wish for, including > having a good > >online support forum plus good telephone technical support. > > > >"Finale" is another program, an earlier iteration of which I used > many years > >ago. > > > >-S- > > > > > > > A better value is Noteworthy Composer. It has had substantial > improvements made and does almost everything you could want, and > is only > $39.00. Check it out. > > It is shareware and can be downloaded at > http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/ > Carl Bangs > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steven.slaff% 40oberlin.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
Steve Freides wrote: "Sibelius" is a popular music-writing program for computers. It cost me about $250 with an educational discount (show my faculty ID at the music store) and does everything one could ever wish for, including having a good online support forum plus good telephone technical support. "Finale" is another program, an earlier iteration of which I used many years ago. -S- A better value is Noteworthy Composer. It has had substantial improvements made and does almost everything you could want, and is only $39.00. Check it out. It is shareware and can be downloaded at http://www.noteworthysoftware.com/ Carl Bangs ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
"Sibelius" is a popular music-writing program for computers. It cost me
about $250 with an educational discount (show my faculty ID at the music
store) and does everything one could ever wish for, including having a good
online support forum plus good telephone technical support.
"Finale" is another program, an earlier iteration of which I used many years
ago.
-S-
> -Original Message-
> From:
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> du] On Behalf Of David Goldberg
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 7:59 AM
> To: The Horn List
> Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
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> > http://www.lib.virginia.edu/dmmc/Music/Musicpaper/
>
> As uh, noted - this site has many varieties of formatted
> music paper available for free download. Very convenient,
> and gracious of the University of Virginia Library to provide it.
>
> But anyone who has access to desktop publishing software can
> whip up a sheet of music paper to any specifications in a
> couple of minutes. I use PageMaker; I don't know any others,
> but I trust that other current desktop publishing software is
> as versatile. An advantage of making your own is being able
> to make exactly what you want, rather than having to select
> the closest thing available. That includes line thickness,
> staff width, number of staves per page, instrument names and
> any other notations or images, horizontal or vertical
> orientation, non-uniform pages - everything.
>
>
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> { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
>{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Chapstick
Eucerin cream works quite well for anyone who is allergic to products with petroleum based ingredients, paba or perfume. It gives a gentle light waxy feel with no irritation. It comes in fairly large quantities but I transfer it to a tiny jar. Sent wirelessly via BlackBerry from T-Mobile. -Original Message- From: "Bill Hauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 16:08:46 To: Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Chapstick I use this daily: http://www.chapstick.com/natural It's easy to find in stores. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/gretchenzook%40cs.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Chapstick
I use this daily: http://www.chapstick.com/natural It's easy to find in stores. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Chapstick
Hi everybody, In response to the new Chapstick thread, I generally use regular Blistex lip balm everytime I go outside during cold, windy weather or for prolonged periods in the sun. It has no adverse affect on my playing, but protects my lips well from chapping and sunburn. I was given a sample of Chopsaver last year to test - it seemed to be equal in quality to Blistex, no better or worse. I like the idea of using natural ingredients but Blistex is easier to find! Ken Hawes message: 4 date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:29:10 -0700 from: Steven Slaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] Chapstick Hi all, I was searching the web and came across a couple interesting and seemingly unique types of chapstick. The websites for two of the most interesting ones are as follows: http://www.zajamusic.com/chopstic.htm http://www.chopsaver.com/ Since I am always on the look out for chapstick (I haven't yet found one brand that satisfies me), these caught my eye, especially the "Chop Saver," which was made by a professional trumpet player and contains all natural ingredients. It also reminds me of a few questions about chapstick that I've had for a long time which I will now post to this list to gather input. First, has anyone had any experiences with these above chapsticks? Alternatively, what chapstick do you all use (if any)? Also, what chapstick ingredients do you think are good to stay away from? I have heard so many differing opinions about chapstick additives. Someone even told me once that chapsticks with Beeswax actually STOP your lips from healing because lips can't break down the wax! Finally, what do you all think about using chapsticks every day (even multiple times a day). I wonder if it's bad to expose one's lips to the same substances every day, even if they are supposedly healthy/natural such as Arnica. Hopefully this will start an interesting discussion! Steven Slaff ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] re: Marcus Bona cases
Ken Pope says, "I feel very strongly about this as it is ethically untenable for dealers to be selling these cases knowing perfectly well that their customers are being led to think they are buying a Bonna case, and that the case is pending in court." I too have been contacted by Marcus concerning some improprieties with the sale of his cases. I wish to add to Ken's comment that not only is it unethical to sell knockoff cases as if they are Marcus Bona cases, it is most certainly illegal to do so. Most states have truth-in-advertising laws that can be legally enforced if need be. Loren Mayhew \@() Finke Horns [EMAIL PROTECTED] (520) 403-6897 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] re: Chop Saver Lip Balm
Hello All: I'd never used any kind of chap stick or substance on my lips, (over a 30+ year career!) but since it is extremely dry here in the winter, I'd been getting cracked and chapped lips from time to time and believe me, that's very uncomfortable to play on! I saw an ad for Chop Saver Lip Balm, http://www.chopsaver.com/ Bought some, and now I can't do without it. The formula is simple, organic, and doesn't cause numbness or any waxy feeling, it just moisturizes and protects. I use just a teeny bit right after playing and overnight, so my supply is likely to last the rest of my playing days If I am stupid and injure my embouchure, I use a bit of Blistex Medicated Lip Ointment It too doesn't leave the numb, puffy feeling that other medications cause and seems to speed the blood flow and helps healing. Sincerely Gary Borton, Regina, Canada ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re:chapsticks, et. al.
Some weeks, or perhaps months, ago, there was a thread that revealed some one of the listers was producing a lip balm of his own composition. Unfortunately I did not keep a copy of the discussion. If any one can identify the inventor of this balm, I would appreciate knowing him. I have need of his product. date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:29:10 -0700 from: Steven Slaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> subject: [Hornlist] Chapstick Message: 4 Hi all, I was searching the web and came across a couple interesting and seemingly unique types of chapstick. The websites for two of the most interesting ones are as follows: http://www.zajamusic.com/chopstic.htm http://www.chopsaver.com/ Since I am always on the look out for chapstick (I haven't yet found one brand that satisfies me), these caught my eye, especially the "Chop Saver," which was made by a professional trumpet player and contains all natural ingredients. It also reminds me of a few questions about chapstick that I've had for a long time which I will now post to this list to gather input. First, has anyone had any experiences with these above chapsticks? Alternatively, what chapstick do you all use (if any)? Also, what chapstick ingredients do you think are good to stay away from? I have heard so many differing opinions about chapstick additives. Someone even told me once that chapsticks with Beeswax actually STOP your lips from healing because lips can't break down the wax! Finally, what do you all think about using chapsticks every day (even multiple times a day). I wonder if it's bad to expose one's lips to the same substances every day, even if they are supposedly healthy/natural such as Arnica. Hopefully this will start an interesting discussion! Steven Slaff date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 04:03:24 + from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Tietz) subject: Re: [Hornlist] Chapstick Message: 5 My personal favorite is "DCT" by Blistex. It stands for "Daily Conditioning Treatment" and features SPF20 as well. Active ingredients are octinoxate (7.3%) oxybenzone (4.5%) petrolatum (54.86%) and inactive ingredients aloe extract, cocoa butter, flavor, lanolin, mixed waxes, phenol, soy protein, & vitamins a&e. I only use it when my lips get dry or chapped, but when they do I keep it on pretty much all the time I'm not playing until they get better- usually about 2 days. And it's coincidental my initials are the same as the product's; that has nothing to do with the reasons I like it :) David C Tietz ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Marcus Bonna Alert
Hello Ken, bravo for your ethics & your honesty, but do these folks respect that ? The same folks who copy music, who copy CDs & DVDs ? If all of us would have been honest all the time, prices for music, CDs & DVDs & instruments & accessoires like MB cases could be kept with stable, but by this malpractice & abuses many dealers & producers are driven to bancrupcy or illegality. All depends on the customership. ... Let´s keep the high spirit, even just for ourselves, so we have not to spit on our image in the mirror. Kindest greetings Hans -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 1:58 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Marcus Bonna Alert As most of you know, Marcus Bonna has been the driving force in redesigning and building horn cases as we know them. Recently I received an email from him alerting me to the fact that two of his employees had left with his customer lists, and his designs and were building the same style cases. (even with the same model numbers!) He currently is in the process of suing them, but in the meantime there are a number of Shops in the U.S. that seemingly have little regard for the ethics of this matter. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] laquer
Hello Alon, I'll try to answer your questions the best I can. a) The majority of lacquered instruments today have a two part epoxy finish.The only makers I am aware of that still use cellulose lacquer are Bach trumpets and trombones, and perhaps Paris Selmer instruments. b) Metal polish of any kind will remove small amounts of metal, but it would take some time to realize a measurable amount c) Matt finishes are achieved by using an abrasive Scotchbrite type of buffing wheel or glass bead blasting prior to applying a clear coat of lacquer or electroplating with silver or gold. d) Go to http://www.napbirt.org/ for information on repair schools and training. I hope this is helpful. Jim Becker Osmun Music http://www.osmun.com (web site) (781)646-5756 (Phone) (781)646-2480 (Fax) - Original Message - From: "Alon reuven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:45 AM Subject: [Hornlist] laquer While reading some of the list members articles , some questiones came up . I would be most greatfull if some one would shere his knowledge with me regarding these questions : a) what kind of laquer is being applyed on brass instruments - is it just a plane metal laquer or is it some kind of a secret? b) If I wuold polish my horn (one of my horns is unlaquered ) with brasso - would it , actually take some metal of the instrument , cosing it damage? c) I have noticed that the Monet trumpet , as well as some saxophones , has a matt golden coating . does any body know what coating is it ? has anyone tryed to apply it on a french horn ? d) can any one tell me how and where can i learn to fix and costumise horns ? thankes , Alon Reuven ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Free Music Paper
http://www.lib.virginia.edu/dmmc/Music/Musicpaper/
As uh, noted - this site has many varieties of formatted music paper
available for free download. Very convenient, and gracious of the
University of Virginia Library to provide it.
But anyone who has access to desktop publishing software can whip up a
sheet of music paper to any specifications in a couple of minutes. I use
PageMaker; I don't know any others, but I trust that other current desktop
publishing software is as versatile. An advantage of making your own is
being able to make exactly what you want, rather than having to select the
closest thing available. That includes line thickness, staff width,
number of staves per page, instrument names and any other notations or
images, horizontal or vertical orientation, non-uniform pages -
everything.
{ David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }
{ Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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[Hornlist] Marcus Bonna Alert
As most of you know, Marcus Bonna has been the driving force in redesigning and building horn cases as we know them. Recently I received an email from him alerting me to the fact that two of his employees had left with his customer lists, and his designs and were building the same style cases. (even with the same model numbers!) He currently is in the process of suing them, but in the meantime there are a number of Shops in the U.S. that seemingly have little regard for the ethics of this matter. I ask that all players here recognize Mr. Bonna's contribution to our horn society, (and his investment in research and design) and that you make certain that when you are buying one of his cases that you research it to be certain it is not just being sold as a case 'Made in Brazil' but that it is a case made by his company. Check with the dealer to make sure it is indeed a Bonna case. These cases not only have the same (or very similar) model numbers, but are also selling for the same amounts. Often times the dealers are selling them as their own 'brand name' case. If you inadvertently purchased on of these cases on the assumption you were being sold a Marcus Bonna case - demand your money back. I feel very strongly about this as it is ethically untenable for dealers to be selling these cases knowing perfectly well that their customers are being led to think they are buying a Bonna case, and that the case is pending in court. For those of you who would think that I am doing this for business reasons, remember that there are many many shops that sell Bonna cases - this is a matter of integrity. We owe a lot to Marcus, including our loyalty. Sincerely, Ken Pope "Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow" http://www.poperepair.com US Dealer: Kuhn Horns & Bonna Cases Pope Instrument Repair 80 Wenham Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 617-522-0532 "Just Put Your Lips Together And Blow" http://www.poperepair.com US Dealer: Kuhn Horns & Bonna Cases Pope Instrument Repair 80 Wenham Street Jamaica Plain, MA 02130 617-522-0532 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Wynton Marsalis, All Rise
I went to see this composition performed on Saturday with the Lincoln Centre Jazz people and the LPO. I would love to declare my admiration for the horn feller who stood up & played a jazz solo & suprised them all, HA! You showed them! What a hero. _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
