Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-30 Thread Herbert Foster
You can also use a factitious note. Finger it F12. It's there. If it's sharp,
use F23. Factitious notes are supported by the harmonics, not the fundamental.

Herb Foster

--- Jerry Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marc Gelfo wrote:
  
  Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E in the 4th
  mvt 
  of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F horn (I guess maybe
  sort 
  of you could bend down pedal F# with F123, but that would be
  treacherous to attack an out-of-the-blue piano low E with that
  fingering)
  
  Anybody know more about this?
 
 No, but don't forget the right hand can be used to affect pitch as well.
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RE: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-30 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
In theory everything is said easily, but in practica ?
If there are mics  sharp ears in the recording crew ? There
just solid solutions can count.

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Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

You can also use a factitious note. Finger it F12. It's
there. If it's sharp, use F23. Factitious notes are
supported by the harmonics, not the fundamental.

Herb Foster

--- Jerry Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Marc Gelfo wrote:
  
  Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E
in the 4th 
  mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F horn
(I guess 
  maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F# with F123,
but that would 
  be treacherous to attack an out-of-the-blue piano low E
with that
  fingering)
  
  Anybody know more about this?
 
 No, but don't forget the right hand can be used to affect
pitch as well.
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[Hornlist] Re: Geschtopftmitscheist ??

2005-12-30 Thread HORNTRASH
 
Wendell Schmendell Rider wronged:
 
 Dear fellow listers one and all- Merry Xmas and a Happy  Near Year!
Well, now we have a real mess brewing here. Maybe an  international  
incident. I'm very concerned about the two of you  canceling each  
other out. People disappear all the time. Stranger  things have  
happened! It would be a shame to lose both of you over  this. 
 
Merry Xopprasch and a Happy Clamsaa to you too and sometimes it is best  that 
horn players disappear especiallies during horn concertos or even  symphonies 
or band concerts because they did not make the practicings of  Kopprasch No. 
1

 I must also say that I have to disavow any  responsibility for the  
actions of my former student, Herr  Geschtopftmitscheist. He was an  
earnest, perhaps a bit obsessive lad  with a wild imagination. His  
broken home and subsequent lack of  monetary support caused him to  
rely on his street smarts to survive.  As you can see, his ability to  
read people and his charismatic  personality have taken him far from  
his humble beginnings. He used to  tell me stories and do my gardening  
to pay for his lessons. Frankly, I  never knew when he was telling the  
truth or if he knew what weeds were  but it didn't seem to matter. He  
had that kind of effect.  

 
NOW,  this is not me and you should have been knowing this  since the name is 
spelled differently and besides that, and as my prize pupil,  Kenny Betts, 
told you about me yesterday, my matriculations were  making in Bad Lippstadt 
with Herr. Otto Fisch not in Sane Jose with  you.

 I did start him out on Kopprasch, so perhaps there is some  blame for  
me to accept there. Really though, how could I know things  would go  
this far? Everyone needs to do Kopprasch! A lot of Kopprasch.  Kids  
nowadays just don't do enough Kopprasch. Its pathetic. Kids today  are  
wimps when it comes to Kopprasch. He had a similar fascination  with  
Bruckner, transcribing entire Masses for horn ensemble. The  problem  
with his many transcriptions is that they have no rests.   
 
NOW, yes, this is true, which shows that your credulances as a teacher  are 
vital but again, and the facts do not make liars of us all so the mostest,  
thoroughestest of studies of my Kopprasch with Herr Otto Fisch for 15  years 
were 
havings in Bad Lippstadt but I did also make some advanced studies of  Nos. 
2-10 with Oscar Franz, Franz Strauss, Oscar Strauss and Franz Oscar  due to my 
mother's close connections to them and I also studied all the Wagner  Tube 
concerti with the great Italian WT virtuoso Enrico Vongole when my train  was 
delayed for a week one night in Milan many years ago and I have not the  times 
been having to make transcriptions of Bruckner as I spend all of my  mostest 
precioussest of free times looking anywheres and  everywheres for the long lost 
symphonies, concertos,  operas, divertimentos, cassations, serenades, lieders, 
masses,  marches, polkas, cake-walks and rags by our beloved Kopprasch!

 A great part of his life was taken up with the search for the  Holy  
Mouthpiece. I know most of us have joined this Crusade at one  time or  
another but again Geschtopftmitscheist carried things a bit  too far,  
sometimes stalking people he thought might have the elusive  artifact.  
He came to me several times, almost accusing me of hoarding  a rare  
gold mouthpiece I had received from the master- saying that  he  
should have it because I wasn't using it. 
 
NOW, again, this is all confusings of the realestest of issues as everyone  
who knows me knows that the Holy Mouthpiece, if it truly exists, is CHROME,  
not gold, plated and it is the original Fisch PDC used by him in the world  
premiere of the now long lost Symphony No. 1, der Schtooper by C.  Kopprasch 
and 
the reason I say the Holy Mouthpiece's existences or nots  are discussed in 
the greatestest of lengths in the recent best seller, The  Da Vinci Clam.

 He is, however, always willing to care for stray  horns, taking in  
many over the years. If you have a horn you don't  want that needs a  
good home, give him a call. His generosity to other  people has not  
been mentioned enough here either. Many of the problems  he faced in  
his life were brought about because he gave to much of  himself to  
others. I think we should all look upon his recent gifts to  us of the  
poem and the holiday as a cry for help and redemption. What  has  
happened here? Do we really understand the depth of this event?  Is  
there some way we can respond appropriately? Some day day we may  all  
look back on this with great reverence. Or not.   
 
Now, this is the onliest of resemblings of this Geschtopftmitscheist to  me 
that you have made the mentionings of here.

 As far as his  identity is concerned, if I told you, yes, I would have  
to be very  concerned about your safety. I think he has revealed much  
about  himself, perhaps too much. After all, on this Internet thing we  
call a  forum, are any of us 

[Hornlist] Re: Brahms Songs

2005-12-30 Thread Graham Jarvis
William Melton mentioned a number of alternative recordings if the Brahms Songs:
 
 Graham, I won't try to suggest a better recording (lets leave the  
 critics to do that), but here are some that offer some fine horn  
 players:
 
 Stefan Jezierski and Manfred Klier with Marcus Creed and the RIAS- 
 Kammerchor (Harmonia mundi CD)
 Anthony Halstead and Christian Rutherford with John Eliot Gardiner  
 and the Monteverdi Choir (Philips CD)
 Gerd Seifert and Alfred Dedens with Hubert Guenther and the  
 Rheinische Singgemeinschaft (Garnet LP)
 Dennis Brain and Norman Del Mar with Roy Henderson and the Nottingham  
 Oriana Choir (Decca 78)
 
 The last two are worth looking for if they are ever issued on CD  
 because they document their first players in young years, the Brain  
 recorded in 1943, and Seifert in 1964 (at the end of his stint in  
 Duesseldorf). 

It looks as though the first two on the list are unavailable just now - from 
Amazon at least. Seifert or Brain would have been interesting of course - in a 
few years perhaps?
looks like it will be the London Symphony Chorus/City of London Sinfonia / 
Hickox. 
Regards,
Graham
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[Hornlist] Re: Bivalvulation

2005-12-30 Thread HORNTRASH
 
Steve Frenchy Freides inquisites:


But Professor, I do not see bivalvulation explained.   Please enlighted me,
or at least tell me what it means.


Now, here is the definition as defined in  the Kopprasch Heritage Dictionary:

bi·valve n. 1. A  mollusk, such as an oyster or a clam, that has a shell 
consisting of two  hinged valves. --bi·valve adj. 1. Having a shell consisting 
of 
two hinged  valves. 2. Consisting of two similar separable parts. --bi“valved”
 adj.  --bi-valvulation v. 1. to create the constant emissions of 
no-speakies,  phwops, phwaps, phwups, phreeps, schplats, schpleahs, schplooees, 
 
schpladats, scpladatandos, schploinks, schplinks and  schplooieooieooies from 
the bell 
of a horn.  2.  What will  happen to a horn player in a concert if he/she has 
not  practiced Kopprasch. No. 1.

Seasonings Greetonings and  Mostestest of Clamsaalations!


Prof. I. M.  Gestopftmitscheist
Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber,  Schplittenotendorf am 
Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.)
Solo  Horn, Bad Corner Brass Quintet
Hornist, Broken Winds WW  Quintet
Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn  Quartet
Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority  Drum and 
Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers (summer only)
Hornist as  Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes
Principal Natural Horn, I  Soloisti di Feces
Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata  Vongoleforte
Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest  Control, Exit 2 
Community College, Exit 2, NJ (Ret.)
Adjunct, Part-time,  Arms-length Professor of Horn, Pest Control and Home 
Petroleum  Studies, Northern New Hampshire Technical Institute, Bad Corner,  NH
Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for Fun and Profit,  
Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked on Hornonics,  
and 
What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan  American 
Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze and  Porn? 
Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the Study,  Preservation 
and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar  System
Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous
Grand  Poobah of the Koppraschian Kult
Director and Program Manager, The All  Kopprasch Channel (AKC), Kopprasch 
Public Radio (KPR)
Host of The Kopprasch  Factor on AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR
Founder of Kopprasch  Depot, your one stop shop for all you need!
Owner-Operator, Bad Corner  Petroleum Laboratory,  The Worlds Largest Valve 
Oil Factory
Founder and  Disseminator of CLAMSAA, the Universal Holiday for Horn  Players
Interplanetarily Known Soloist and Artist of Record
Exclusive  Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and Conn Artist Who 
Does Not Get  His Horns For Free
Phone: yes
Fax: yes
E-mail: yes
Website:  no

The man who can own up to his clams is greater than he who  merely knows how 
to avoid making  them.





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Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

2005-12-30 Thread billbamberg
My son routinely plays full range on a 1929 Eb tuba that only has three 
valves. There is a big gap in available notes (theoretically) down to 
the low pedals, but he plays right through the range with perfect tone 
and intonation on false notes. He refuses to conform by using a C tuba 
with extra valves for everything. Learning to do it is less difficult 
than circular breathing. The trick is to think of it as singing. The 
instrument is quite capable of playing with no change in sound, once 
you learn to attack and hold the note on pitch. The intonation is as 
good as your ear and, on a tuba in the low register, your ear is 
generally better than the horn.


The Eb is so big, it's usually assumed to be a C, but if anyone 
complains, he has a four valve Conn 48K rain catcher, perfect for the 
opening of Zarathustra, but coiled like a Sousaphone. Stokowski used 
the 48K to double the string base in Fantasia, but it looks pretty 
stupid on stage.


-Original Message-
From: Prof.Hans Pizka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'The Horn List' horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:46:51 +0100
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

In theory everything is said easily, but in practica ?
If there are mics  sharp ears in the recording crew ? There
just solid solutions can count.

=

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Herbert Foster
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 2:26 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound

You can also use a factitious note. Finger it F12. It's
there. If it's sharp, use F23. Factitious notes are
supported by the harmonics, not the fundamental.

Herb Foster

--- Jerry Houston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Marc Gelfo wrote:

 Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E

in the 4th

 mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F horn

(I guess

 maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F# with F123,

but that would

 be treacherous to attack an out-of-the-blue piano low E

with that

 fingering)

 Anybody know more about this?

No, but don't forget the right hand can be used to affect

pitch as well.

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RE: [Hornlist] Re Vienna PO

2005-12-30 Thread Chris Tedesco
I had the oppurtunity to see the VPO play Dvorak 9 and a Schubert symphony in
Severance Hall in Cleveland a few years ago.  

There were a couple instances where the first, and the third if I recall
correctly, switched to an F-alto single.  If I am not mistaken it was the
solo/duet at the end, and also the third horn lick in the Scherzo that also
goes up to a high B.  

There were actually a few clams in the concert, but nothing too terrible.  

Chris




--- Prof.Hans Pizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Surely, you cannot imagine that, as you are not familiar
 with the F-horn playing technique of the Viennese school.
 At first, what is so important with that Shostakovich no.5 ?
 It is just a wave, a fashion not more  will fade. And if
 they play, they can use a different crook for this passage
 or ask the trombone players to sneek in for the one note.
 Why so over ambitious ?
 At second: high e3 on the F-horn is by far easier to get
 than on the Bb-horn, - preconditioned one has the right
 embouchgure to play first horn with the Vienna Philharmonic.
 Have you heard Thomas Joebst playing concertstueck on the
 new CD ? Have you ever heard what kind of programs the VP
 dids on their 1st  2nd Southamerican Tour 1922  1923 ?
 Under Weingartner  Richard Strauss the first tour  under
 R.Strauss all on the 2nd tour: all Tone Poems by Strauss
 within 4 concerts in Montevideo on four consecutive days.
 Just one example. And the tour had 42 concerts. And no
 double horn with them then.
 At third: They use double horns  descant horns for special
 tasks as all do, but the single F-Horn is their main
 instrument, so says their contract. 
 At fourth: Other Viennese orchestras (4 or 5) use double
 horns as well, but dont have the Single F Pumpenhorn written
 in their contracts.
 
 I can speak about that, as I have done all these things on
 my single F Horn also. We say Wer kann, der kann !!
 
 =
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Marc Gelfo
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05 PM
 To: horn@music.memphis.edu
 Subject: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound
 
  In reality though, the Vienna  Philharmonic is an
 original 
  instruments group in the truest sense.
 
 I've heard a lot of players in Vienna are using doubles and
 triples for security in the high register, but cannot
 substantiate this claim since I don't remember from whom I
 heard it or any particular names of players in Vienna.
 
 Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E in
 the 4th mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F
 horn (I guess maybe sort of you could bend down pedal F#
 with F123, but that would be treacherous to attack an
 out-of-the-blue piano low E with that
 fingering)
 
 Anybody know more about this?  
 
 I can't imagine playing, e.g., the Strauss domestic symphony
 1st horn part on a single F horn. 
 
 Marc Gelfo
 
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RE: [Hornlist] Re Vienna PO

2005-12-30 Thread Prof.Hans Pizka
Nice to have those memories as a welcome excuse, if oneself
fails occasionally, isn´t it so ?
But that refers to witness of other clams by other prominent
players. Clams tend to make it around the hall for years 
even in the gazettes  magazines  hornlist or whatever
lists, and they are subject to exaggerating, special by
those who clam often themselves. 

But isn´t it much better to praise the beauty of a
performance or a sound, than to count the clams (except they
are too many, so you stop counting !) ?

===

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chris Tedesco
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 7:19 PM
To: The Horn List
Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re Vienna PO

I had the oppurtunity to see the VPO play Dvorak 9 and a
Schubert symphony in Severance Hall in Cleveland a few years
ago.  

There were a couple instances where the first, and the third
if I recall correctly, switched to an F-alto single.  If I
am not mistaken it was the solo/duet at the end, and also
the third horn lick in the Scherzo that also goes up to a
high B.  

There were actually a few clams in the concert, but nothing
too terrible.  

Chris




--- Prof.Hans Pizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Surely, you cannot imagine that, as you are not familiar
with the 
 F-horn playing technique of the Viennese school.
 At first, what is so important with that Shostakovich no.5
?
 It is just a wave, a fashion not more  will fade. And if
they play, 
 they can use a different crook for this passage or ask the
trombone 
 players to sneek in for the one note.
 Why so over ambitious ?
 At second: high e3 on the F-horn is by far easier to get
than on the 
 Bb-horn, - preconditioned one has the right embouchgure to
play first 
 horn with the Vienna Philharmonic.
 Have you heard Thomas Joebst playing concertstueck on the
new CD ? 
 Have you ever heard what kind of programs the VP dids on
their 1st  
 2nd Southamerican Tour 1922  1923 ?
 Under Weingartner  Richard Strauss the first tour  under
R.Strauss 
 all on the 2nd tour: all Tone Poems by Strauss within 4
concerts in 
 Montevideo on four consecutive days.
 Just one example. And the tour had 42 concerts. And no
double horn 
 with them then.
 At third: They use double horns  descant horns for
special tasks as 
 all do, but the single F-Horn is their main instrument, so
says their 
 contract.
 At fourth: Other Viennese orchestras (4 or 5) use double
horns as 
 well, but dont have the Single F Pumpenhorn written in
their 
 contracts.
 
 I can speak about that, as I have done all these things on
my single F 
 Horn also. We say Wer kann, der kann !!


 =
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of 
 Marc Gelfo
 Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 7:05 PM
 To: horn@music.memphis.edu
 Subject: [Hornlist] Re: French Nationalistic Sound
 
  In reality though, the Vienna  Philharmonic is an
 original
  instruments group in the truest sense.
 
 I've heard a lot of players in Vienna are using doubles
and triples 
 for security in the high register, but cannot substantiate
this claim 
 since I don't remember from whom I heard it or any
particular names of 
 players in Vienna.
 
 Also, I'm curious how they pull of things like the low E
in the 4th 
 mvt of Shostakovich 5, which cannot be played on F horn (I
guess maybe 
 sort of you could bend down pedal F# with F123, but that
would be 
 treacherous to attack an out-of-the-blue piano low E with
that
 fingering)
 
 Anybody know more about this?  
 
 I can't imagine playing, e.g., the Strauss domestic
symphony 1st horn 
 part on a single F horn.
 
 Marc Gelfo
 
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[Hornlist] More of the mystery revealed

2005-12-30 Thread Wendell Rider


On Dec 30, 2005, at 7:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


message: 14
date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:45:03 EST
from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
subject: [Hornlist] Re: Geschtopftmitscheist ??


Wendell Schmendell Rider wronged:
Is this nice? Name calling? Here I try and explain some things about  
your life and all you can do is insult me? I meant only to enlighten  
and bring some much needed closure to this controversy over your  
existence. But perhaps I was wrong in that. Perhaps it was much too  
presumptuous of me to try and tell The Story myself. We should wait  
for more word from you. Maybe it IS better that we rely on our belief  
in you rather than any empirical data. I'm pretty tired of this  
Revenge of the Nerds generation anyway. All of these engineers and IT  
types running things. Trying to reduce music to spreadsheets,  
photography to numbers and pixels. When will it end?



NOW,  this is not me and you should have been knowing this  since  
the name is
spelled differently and besides that, and as my prize pupil,  Kenny  
Betts,
told you about me yesterday, my matriculations were  making in Bad  
Lippstadt

with Herr. Otto Fisch not in Sane Jose with  you.
Yes, your name is spelled differently, quite differently, Mr. Trash  
- we will just use this name for convenience from now on. Of course I  
didn't want to bring up all the stuff about the operation, the  
institutions, the medications and the new identities. I was willing  
to let all that lie. But I am not an enabler. Going along with all  
this nonsense is certainly not in your best interests or mine.
Yes, it is obvious that you seem to have found a true friend and  
codependent in the person of Kenny. I'm sure he would say just  
about anything to keep you out of trouble. Didn't you actually attend  
some institutions together? Or was that someone else? Come on,  
let's be truthful now.



snip


NOW, yes, this is true, which shows that your credulances as a  
teacher  are
vital but again, and the facts do not make liars of us all so the  
mostest,
thoroughestest of studies of my Kopprasch with Herr Otto Fisch for  
15  years were
havings in Bad Lippstadt but I did also make some advanced studies  
of  Nos.
2-10 with Oscar Franz, Franz Strauss, Oscar Strauss and Franz  
Oscar  due to my
mother's close connections to them and I also studied all the  
Wagner  Tube
concerti with the great Italian WT virtuoso Enrico Vongole when my  
train  was
delayed for a week one night in Milan many years ago and I have not  
the  times
been having to make transcriptions of Bruckner as I spend all of  
my  mostest
precioussest of free times looking anywheres and  everywheres for  
the long lost
symphonies, concertos,  operas, divertimentos, cassations,  
serenades, lieders,
masses,  marches, polkas, cake-walks and rags by our beloved  
Kopprasch!


This type of rambling points to the real problem- bi polar  
schizophrenia. Perhaps it is only fitting that our new spiritual  
leader should have more than one name and personality. After all, as  
horn players, aren't we always on the cutting edge of social  
evolution? Soon every leader will have these traits, or want to. If  
we act now we can have the first. As we move into this new  
millennium, it is time for us to take our place, our rightful place,  
as the real movers and shakers of the future. The cultural IQ has  
devolved to just the right point for us to take over. I say we strike  
now! Hail to maestro Geschtopftmitscheist!



snip


NOW, again, this is all confusings of the realestest of issues as  
everyone
who knows me knows that the Holy Mouthpiece, if it truly exists, is  
CHROME,
not gold, plated and it is the original Fisch PDC used by him in  
the world
premiere of the now long lost Symphony No. 1, der Schtooper by  
C.  Kopprasch and
the reason I say the Holy Mouthpiece's existences or nots  are  
discussed in
the greatestest of lengths in the recent best seller, The  Da Vinci  
Clam.


Folks, the REAL mouthpiece is made of bone. But nice try. As my late  
dog Hopi used to say- without a bone you have no case. Ahh, but you  
do remember my dog don't you Mr Trash! If worse comes to worse we can  
always look for that scar on a certain part of your body, no?



 He is, however, always willing to care for stray  horns, taking in
many over the years. If you have a horn you don't  want that needs a
good home, give him a call. His generosity to other  people has not
been mentioned enough here either. Many of the problems  he faced in
his life were brought about because he gave to much of  himself to
others. I think we should all look upon his recent gifts to  us of the
poem and the holiday as a cry for help and redemption. What  has
happened here? Do we really understand the depth of this event?  Is
there some way we can respond appropriately? Some day day we may  all
look back on this with great reverence. Or not.   

Now, this is the onliest of resemblings of this  
Geschtopftmitscheist to  me


[Hornlist] Re: bivalvulation

2005-12-30 Thread HORNTRASH
Mostestest of apologizings for the 2 previous attemptings that got  
mysteriosoisly htmlled!
 
Steve French Freides inquisites:
 
 But Professor, I  do not see bivalvulation explained.  Please 
enlighted me, or at least  tell me what it means. 
 
Now, I gladly can do this so here the definition is as defined in the  
Kopprasch Heritage Dictionary:
 
bi-valve n.  1. A mollusk, such as an oyster  or a clam, that has a shell 
consisting of two hinged valves. --bi-valve adj. 1.  Having a shell 
consisting of two hinged valves. 2. Consisting of two similar  separable parts. 
--bi-valvulate v. 1. The act of creating the constant  emissions of 
no-speakies, 
phwops, phwaps, phwups, phreeps, schplats, schpleashs,  schplooees, schpladats, 
schpladatandos, schoploinks, schplinks and  schpollieooieooies from the bell of 
a horn. --bi-valvulation n. 1. The  sonorous extripations heard in rehearsal 
or concert emitted from the bell of a  horn played by a performer who did not 
practice Kopprasch No. 1.
 
Seasonings Greetonings and Mostestest of Clamsaalations!
 
Prof. I. M.  Gestopftmitscheist
Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber,  Schplittenotendorf am 
Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.)
Solo  Horn, Bad Corner Brass Quintet
Hornist, Broken Winds WW  Quintet
Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn  Quartet
Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum  and 
Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers (summer only)
Hornist as Needed,  L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes
Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di  Feces
Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte
Adjunct,  Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 
Community  College, Exit 2, NJ (Ret.)
Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn,  Pest Control and Home 
Petroleum Studies, Northern New Hampshire Technical  Institute, Bad Corner, NH
Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for  Fun and Profit, 
Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked  on Hornonics, 
and 
What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or  Conn Pan American 
Single F Horns and a Kopprasch Book Instead of AK 47's, Booze  and Porn? 
Founder, Director and CEO, Universal Institute for the  Study, Preservation 
and Dissemination of Kopprasch Throughout the Solar  System
Founder and Guru Extraordinaire, Hornaholics Anonymous
Grand Poobah  of the Koppraschian Kult
Director and Program Manager, The All Kopprasch  Channel (AKC), Kopprasch 
Public Radio (KPR)
Host of The Kopprasch Factor on  AKC and All Kopprasch Considered on KPR
Founder of Kopprasch Depot, your one  stop shop for all you need!
Owner-Operator, Bad Corner Petroleum Laboratory,   The Worlds Largest Valve 
Oil Factory
Founder and Disseminator of CLAMSAA,  the Universal Holiday for Horn Players
Interplanetarily Known Soloist and  Artist of Record
Exclusive Bundy, Carl Fischer, Olds Ambassador, Sansone and  Conn Artist Who 
Does Not Get His Horns For Free
Phone: yes
Fax:  yes
E-mail: yes
Website: no
 
The man sho can own up to his clams is greater than he who merely knows  how 
to avoid making them.
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[Hornlist] Bivavulation

2005-12-30 Thread Wendell Rider


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If you look carefully in these letters and numbers you can find  
CLAMSAA and SATAN. Maybe there are more things. I'm kinda busy. Is  
this Bible Code or Da Vinci Code?

Wendell Rider
For information about my book, Real World Horn Playing and the  
summer seminar, go to my website: www.wendellworld.com



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RE: [Hornlist] Bivavulation

2005-12-30 Thread Bill Gross
You must have intercepted a coded message.  It didn't show up on my machine.
Perhaps the are some black helicopters landing in your back yard at this
moment? 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Wendell Rider
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2005 5:32 PM
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Subject: [Hornlist] Bivavulation


On Dec 30, 2005, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 message: 2
 date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:40:13 EST
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 byBoaXMgY2xhbXMgaXMgZ3JlYXRlciB0aGFuIGhlIHdobyAgbWVyZWx5IGtub3dzIGhvdy 
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If you look carefully in these letters and numbers you can find  
CLAMSAA and SATAN. Maybe there are more things. I'm kinda busy. Is  
this Bible Code or Da Vinci Code?
Wendell Rider

[Hornlist] False notes

2005-12-30 Thread WIlliam Botte
Mr. Bamberg tells us of his son's ability to play all the notes between 
the first and second intervals or partials or your favorite label.  
Claude Gordon and Jimmy Stamp taught the use and playability of this 
area to their students.  See Mr. Gordons Systematic Approach and  
Velocity Studies.
Perhaps if the horn community would bury its parochialism and 
investigate other brass pedigoguies for new insight into brass skills 
and teaching concepts, playing a low E on an F horn would have been easy 
to do.  I was taught this technique by my teacher, a Gordon student.  
It's not easy, but doable.  Lucky me, I also had to accomplish this on 
the appropriate area of the Bb horn also.
I know some will say, Why learn an unneccesary skill, as we have double 
horns?.  Why not?  Can we ever learn to much?


Query.  Is a false note well played a false note.  I've seen this 
term used for 7th and 11th interval applications.  When is a note 
false?  Who dreams up our terminology?  Maybe Prof I.M.G. has a 
disfunctional answer.

--wabotte
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[Hornlist] Horn music for sale

2005-12-30 Thread Penny Ward Marcus
Hello again,

I have another 3 sets of music available for sale on eBay this week, on 5-day 
auction.

French Horn Music Set of 4 works including horn 

Item number: 7378817344

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French Horn Music Set of 4 chamber works including horn 

Item number: 7378818170

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French Horn Music Set of 4 books: Etudes and methods 

Item number: 7378819224

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Please take a look. I have really appreciated all the interest in the music. I 
am thrilled to have people using it!



Thanks!

Penny
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Re: [Hornlist] Re: Brahms Songs

2005-12-30 Thread PMJILKA
There is a excellent recording of various choral pieces by Brahms on Nimbus 
Records featuring The Kansas City Chorale.   (Nimbus #5524)   The hornists on 
the Op. 17 Songs are Dave Everson and Steve Multer.This recording was made 
7 or 8 years ago, but it should still be readily available.


Happy listeing,

Pete Jilka
Kansas City, MO
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RE: [Hornlist] Re: Geschtopftmitscheist ??

2005-12-30 Thread Larry
MAY WE MOVE ONPLEASE!

 

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Wendell Schmendell Rider wronged:

 

 Dear fellow listers one and all- Merry Xmas and a Happy  Near Year!

Well, now we have a real mess brewing here. Maybe an  international  

incident. I'm very concerned about the two of you  canceling each  

other out. People disappear all the time. Stranger  things have  

happened! It would be a shame to lose both of you over  this. 

 

Merry Xopprasch and a Happy Clamsaa to you too and sometimes it is best
that 

horn players disappear especiallies during horn concertos or even
symphonies 

or band concerts because they did not make the practicings of  Kopprasch No.


1

 

 I must also say that I have to disavow any  responsibility for the  

actions of my former student, Herr  Geschtopftmitscheist. He was an  

earnest, perhaps a bit obsessive lad  with a wild imagination. His  

broken home and subsequent lack of  monetary support caused him to  

rely on his street smarts to survive.  As you can see, his ability to  

read people and his charismatic  personality have taken him far from  

his humble beginnings. He used to  tell me stories and do my gardening  

to pay for his lessons. Frankly, I  never knew when he was telling the  

truth or if he knew what weeds were  but it didn't seem to matter. He  

had that kind of effect.  

 

 

NOW,  this is not me and you should have been knowing this  since the name
is 

spelled differently and besides that, and as my prize pupil,  Kenny Betts, 

told you about me yesterday, my matriculations were  making in Bad Lippstadt


with Herr. Otto Fisch not in Sane Jose with  you.

 

 I did start him out on Kopprasch, so perhaps there is some  blame for  

me to accept there. Really though, how could I know things  would go  

this far? Everyone needs to do Kopprasch! A lot of Kopprasch.  Kids  

nowadays just don't do enough Kopprasch. Its pathetic. Kids today  are  

wimps when it comes to Kopprasch. He had a similar fascination  with  

Bruckner, transcribing entire Masses for horn ensemble. The  problem  

with his many transcriptions is that they have no rests.   

 

NOW, yes, this is true, which shows that your credulances as a teacher  are 

vital but again, and the facts do not make liars of us all so the mostest,  

thoroughestest of studies of my Kopprasch with Herr Otto Fisch for 15  years
were 

havings in Bad Lippstadt but I did also make some advanced studies of  Nos. 

2-10 with Oscar Franz, Franz Strauss, Oscar Strauss and Franz Oscar  due to
my 

mother's close connections to them and I also studied all the Wagner  Tube 

concerti with the great Italian WT virtuoso Enrico Vongole when my train
was 

delayed for a week one night in Milan many years ago and I have not the
times 

been having to make transcriptions of Bruckner as I spend all of my  mostest


precioussest of free times looking anywheres and  everywheres for the long
lost 

symphonies, concertos,  operas, divertimentos, cassations, serenades,
lieders, 

masses,  marches, polkas, cake-walks and rags by our beloved Kopprasch!

 

 A great part of his life was taken up with the search for the  Holy  

Mouthpiece. I know most of us have joined this Crusade at one  time or  

another but again Geschtopftmitscheist carried things a bit  too far,  

sometimes stalking people he thought might have the elusive  artifact.  

He came to me several times, almost accusing me of hoarding  a rare  

gold mouthpiece I had received from the master- saying that  he  

should have it because I wasn't using it. 

 

NOW, again, this is all confusings of the realestest of issues as everyone  

who knows me knows that the Holy Mouthpiece, if it truly exists, is CHROME,


not gold, plated and it is the original Fisch PDC used by him in the world  

premiere of the now long lost Symphony No. 1, der Schtooper by C.
Kopprasch and 

the reason I say the Holy Mouthpiece's existences or nots  are discussed in 

the greatestest of lengths in the recent best seller, The  Da Vinci Clam.

 

 He is, however, always willing to care for stray  horns, taking in  

many over the years. If you have a horn you don't  want that needs a  

good home, give him a call. His generosity to other  people has not  

been mentioned enough here either. Many of the problems  he faced in  

his life were brought about because he gave to much of  himself to  

others. I think we should all look upon his recent gifts to  us of the  

poem and the holiday as a cry for help and redemption. What  has  

happened here? Do we really understand the depth of this event?  Is  

there some way we can respond appropriately? Some day day we may  all  

look back on this with great reverence. Or not.   

 

Now, this is the onliest of resemblings of