RE: [Hornlist] Re: start off on an F horn?
Why still keeping these junk horns or horn ruins ? Convert them to lamps instead playing them. There are no really bad horns, but a majority of weak players. Their weakness starts with their negligence to principles of playing maintaining their instruments or setting them in proper playing conditions. Why are they out of tune many times ? Because the valve slides are not set properly but shoved in as much as possible. Why are they too sharp too pinchy in tone ? Because the player use a very thin bore mouth piece as they have their problems with notes exceeding written e2 or f2. How to help ? Using a regular mouth piece with a 4.3 - 5 mms bore, not forcing the high register, not playing loud all the time. Gaining high register by playing low notes right. Why is the attack so difficult ? Because players croach into the mouthpiece with their upper AND lower lip so to block the hole in the middle. Understood. Then they have to push a lot of air very hard, to open the HOLE in the middle. This results in the PLOP at the beginning of the sound they produce name tone, but it is rather a fart (in the positive sense, as it is produced in a similar way). And the attack becomes more difficult, if the players use trumpetlike rims on their mouthpieces instead of smaller rims, which hurt if the pressure exceeds the normal pressure. Why do they press too much ? Because they do not practise enough or in improper way. They often practise things they do not need as they work anyway. So they waste time embouchure strength, much needed to practice things they cannot do well yet. It is a brain matter. But they like to please themselves by playing the same things again again, which they can do well anyway. If any player, good or less good, advanced or beginner, tries to explore the horn first with the natural harmonics playing softly, and listen where the pitches are how they are, if they try first to play soft slow things to get used to the instrument, they can play in a decent manner on ANY horn. Well, leakness is another matter, a technical matter, which cannot be calculated here. I speak about ANY horn in a decent condition. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:08 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: start off on an F horn? In a message dated 3/4/06 1:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bill Gross writes: Not sure of your point here. The implication is that if not all F horns are good, B flat horns might be. Could you clarify it? Nope, just that there are a lot of crummy F horns out there that even Hans couldn't play, well maybe HE could but nobody else could. Get a good F horn and make music! - Steve Mumford ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: start off on an F horn?
Question for Hans regarding bad horns, it was common knowledge that a batch of Sansone horns would probably meet the criteria of bad horn. Supposedly these horns were mass produced for the US military in the 1940s. Is this just a horn urban legend? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans.Pizka Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 3:34 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Re: start off on an F horn? Why still keeping these junk horns or horn ruins ? Convert them to lamps instead playing them. There are no really bad horns, but a majority of weak players. Their weakness starts with their negligence to principles of playing maintaining their instruments or setting them in proper playing conditions. Why are they out of tune many times ? Because the valve slides are not set properly but shoved in as much as possible. Why are they too sharp too pinchy in tone ? Because the player use a very thin bore mouth piece as they have their problems with notes exceeding written e2 or f2. How to help ? Using a regular mouth piece with a 4.3 - 5 mms bore, not forcing the high register, not playing loud all the time. Gaining high register by playing low notes right. Why is the attack so difficult ? Because players croach into the mouthpiece with their upper AND lower lip so to block the hole in the middle. Understood. Then they have to push a lot of air very hard, to open the HOLE in the middle. This results in the PLOP at the beginning of the sound they produce name tone, but it is rather a fart (in the positive sense, as it is produced in a similar way). And the attack becomes more difficult, if the players use trumpetlike rims on their mouthpieces instead of smaller rims, which hurt if the pressure exceeds the normal pressure. Why do they press too much ? Because they do not practise enough or in improper way. They often practise things they do not need as they work anyway. So they waste time embouchure strength, much needed to practice things they cannot do well yet. It is a brain matter. But they like to please themselves by playing the same things again again, which they can do well anyway. If any player, good or less good, advanced or beginner, tries to explore the horn first with the natural harmonics playing softly, and listen where the pitches are how they are, if they try first to play soft slow things to get used to the instrument, they can play in a decent manner on ANY horn. Well, leakness is another matter, a technical matter, which cannot be calculated here. I speak about ANY horn in a decent condition. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:08 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: start off on an F horn? In a message dated 3/4/06 1:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bill Gross writes: Not sure of your point here. The implication is that if not all F horns are good, B flat horns might be. Could you clarify it? Nope, just that there are a lot of crummy F horns out there that even Hans couldn't play, well maybe HE could but nobody else could. Get a good F horn and make music! - Steve Mumford ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup
Hi gang. For the sake of those in the market to try out horns, let's put our heads together on a list of retailers with a decent stock of instruments. Let's limit these to stores with actual stock of quality instruments. Eventually I will put these on a map. I'll go first: Osmun Music, Arlington MA Woodwind/Brasswind, South Bend IN Wichita Band Instruments, Wichita KS Anyone else? Jeremy Hansen --- Jeremy C. Hansen Assistant Professor of Horn and Theory Eastern Illinois University 600 Lincoln Ave. Charleston, Illinois 61944 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup
I think you have to at least mention Dillon Music in Woodbridge, NJ. I don't know about their stock of new instruments but they have quite the collection of used brass instruments. -S- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hansen Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 10:05 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup Hi gang. For the sake of those in the market to try out horns, let's put our heads together on a list of retailers with a decent stock of instruments. Let's limit these to stores with actual stock of quality instruments. Eventually I will put these on a map. I'll go first: Osmun Music, Arlington MA Woodwind/Brasswind, South Bend IN Wichita Band Instruments, Wichita KS Anyone else? Jeremy Hansen --- Jeremy C. Hansen Assistant Professor of Horn and Theory Eastern Illinois University 600 Lincoln Ave. Charleston, Illinois 61944 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Please no lamps!(Was: start off on an F horn?)
--- Hans.Pizka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why still keeping these junk horns or horn ruins ? Convert them to lamps instead playing them. There are no really bad horns, but a majority of weak players. Their weakness starts with their negligence to principles of playing maintaining their instruments or setting them in proper playing conditions. Why are they out of tune many times ? Because the valve slides are not set properly but shoved in as much as possible. Why are they too sharp too pinchy in tone ? Because the player use a very thin bore mouth piece as they have their problems with notes exceeding written e2 or f2. How to help ? Using a regular mouth piece with a 4.3 - 5 mms bore, not forcing the high register, not playing loud all the time. Gaining high register by playing low notes right. Why is the attack so difficult ? Because players croach into the mouthpiece with their upper AND lower lip so to block the hole in the middle. Understood. Then they have to push a lot of air very hard, to open the HOLE in the middle. This results in the PLOP at the beginning of the sound they produce name tone, but it is rather a fart (in the positive sense, as it is produced in a similar way). And the attack becomes more difficult, if the players use trumpetlike rims on their mouthpieces instead of smaller rims, which hurt if the pressure exceeds the normal pressure. Why do they press too much ? Because they do not practise enough or in improper way. They often practise things they do not need as they work anyway. So they waste time embouchure strength, much needed to practice things they cannot do well yet. It is a brain matter. But they like to please themselves by playing the same things again again, which they can do well anyway. If any player, good or less good, advanced or beginner, tries to explore the horn first with the natural harmonics playing softly, and listen where the pitches are how they are, if they try first to play soft slow things to get used to the instrument, they can play in a decent manner on ANY horn. Well, leakness is another matter, a technical matter, which cannot be calculated here. I speak about ANY horn in a decent condition. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:08 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: start off on an F horn? In a message dated 3/4/06 1:00:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bill Gross writes: Not sure of your point here. The implication is that if not all F horns are good, B flat horns might be. Could you clarify it? Nope, just that there are a lot of crummy F horns out there that even Hans couldn't play, well maybe HE could but nobody else could. Get a good F horn and make music! - Steve Mumford ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yorkmasterbbb%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Green-horn Questions
Hello all, I am trying to pick up playing the horn again after being in college for 4 years. I played for 5 years, in middle and high school, but I am still kind of a greenhorn ( pardon the pun ;) I was hoping someone could answer a couple of questions I have. First, I never learned any of the science behind picking a mouthpiece. Does anyone know of a good website or other resource where I can learn the types, differences, benefits, and pitfalls of horn mouthpieces? I have always just played with the mouthpiece that came with the horn the school loaned me. I would like to know what makes mouthpieces different from each other. Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767, It has: 157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps 56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap 56 stamped on the keys I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers? Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors have mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating the valves. It is a Kruspe style wrap horn. It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece. It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and my knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn? Third, I am hoping to play with my church worship band. I live in Oregon. Does anyone know of a good resource for finding Worship Sheet Music? Will I most likely need to transpose from another instrument for a majority of songs? Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide me. Seth Urbach - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions
Be careful of those Blessing-Getzen compensating double horns -- the ones that look like this: http://i16.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/5e/d5/b1_1_b.JPG They might be perfectly fine horns -- if you could grip them comfortably with the left hand. But the way the tubes radiate out of the thumb-operated change valve prevents the player's left thumb from going as far forward as it needs to for comfort. When I tried playing 1 of those some years back I had to hold my left thumb back so far, with just the ball of the thumb on the valve lever, that I declared that model of horn unplayable. Too bad. Those horns might be perfectly fine -- acoustically -- as far as intonation, sound quality, all those other things are concerned. But if you can't hold 1 comfortably in playing position, then all those other factors go for naught. Try the horn for yourself. If you can hold it comfortably, then maybe you might be able to play it OK find out on the basis of your own experience whether it sounds good, plays in tune, responds well, has nice resistance (not too much, not too little), etc. Or, if you really like how the horn plays still have trouble with that problem of a seriously uncomfortable left-hand position on the horn, maybe a duck foot or palm-strap or some helpful accessory like that would remedy the problem, I don't know. However that may be, there are so many good-playing comfortable horns out there -- full doubles compensating doubles -- that I don't even bother with Blessing-Getzen compensating horns other similar instruments I have discovered to be unplayable. -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767, It has: 157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps 56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap 56 stamped on the keys I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers? Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors have mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating the valves. It is a Kruspe style wrap horn. It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece. It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and my knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.2/274 - Release Date: 3/3/2006 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup
In a message dated 3/5/2006 9:05:33 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Osmun Music, Arlington MA Woodwind/Brasswind, South Bend IN Wichita Band Instruments, Wichita KS Patterson Hornworks, Las Cruces, NM Pope Instrument Repair, JP, MA BrassArts Unlimited, Baltimore, MD ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup
Baltimore Brass, Catonsville, MD -- Jonell Lindholm Reisterstown MD USA [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 12:40 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup In a message dated 3/5/2006 9:05:33 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Osmun Music, Arlington MA Woodwind/Brasswind, South Bend IN Wichita Band Instruments, Wichita KS Patterson Hornworks, Las Cruces, NM Pope Instrument Repair, JP, MA BrassArts Unlimited, Baltimore, MD ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jlindhol%40bcpl.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions
Hi Seth, Since you are just getting into mouthpieces, a good place to start is the first chapter of Philip Farkas' book, The Art of French Horn Playing. This book is a gold mine of basic information about all facets related to horn. Retails for $15. In fact, this is your lucky day - the 'excerpt' provided on Amazon for this book is the mouthpiece chapter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0874870216/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-0667743-2244626#reader-link This is a bit technical, but an excellent resource: http://www.lawsonhorns.com/mouthpieces.htm Fred - Original Message - From: Seth Urbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:43 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions Hello all, I am trying to pick up playing the horn again after being in college for 4 years. I played for 5 years, in middle and high school, but I am still kind of a greenhorn ( pardon the pun ;) I was hoping someone could answer a couple of questions I have. First, I never learned any of the science behind picking a mouthpiece. Does anyone know of a good website or other resource where I can learn the types, differences, benefits, and pitfalls of horn mouthpieces? I have always just played with the mouthpiece that came with the horn the school loaned me. I would like to know what makes mouthpieces different from each other. Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767, It has: 157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps 56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap 56 stamped on the keys I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers? Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors have mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating the valves. It is a Kruspe style wrap horn. It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece. It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and my knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn? Third, I am hoping to play with my church worship band. I live in Oregon. Does anyone know of a good resource for finding Worship Sheet Music? Will I most likely need to transpose from another instrument for a majority of songs? Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide me. Seth Urbach - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40sbcglobal.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips
A nice warm up and warm down. Chris (Chopsaver may help too) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know an aid or cure for lips stiffening up between practice sessions, rehearsals, etc. Thanks, Ron ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Good F horns.
Check their Non-US sites. It's up somewhere, you just have to dig a little. Chris --- Steve Freides [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't Yamaha make a Vienna horn? A quick look on their site didn't find it for me now but I recall reading about it somewhere. Don't know what the price was, either. I know a Vienna horn does not equal a more standard single F horn but ... -S- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] du] On Behalf Of WIlliam Botte Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:53 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Good F horns. Mr. Mumford asks a good question. The lack of good, or, even more precise; Why the lack of quality, professional grade F horns. The Brasswinds catalogue lists many student model F horns, yet no Pro F horns. They may also sell the 3/4 wrap kiddee horns, excellent for marching band, god forbid, I pitched the catalogue? A reasonably priced, around $2,ooo.oo, pro grade F horn would a reasonable investment for a students first horn. If not damaged and maintained properly, the resale could help finance the purchase of a pro double when the student needs to move on. Notice I said, needs. Today and tomorrow, our orchestra is performing Tchaikowskis fiddle concerto, Finlandia and other less exciting pieces. The horn parts could easily be performed on F horns. If real quality, well slotted intervals, unstuffy F horns were available the need for expensive doubles could avoided. --wabotte ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/tedesccj%40yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn retailer roundup
do you mean just shops in America? Paxman's in London have lots of horns. Cheers, Lawrence þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg _http://lawrenceyates.co.uk_ (http://lawrenceyates.co.uk/) Dulcian Wind Quintet: _http://dulcianwind.co.uk_ (http://dulcianwind.co.uk/) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions
Hello Seth, the numbers have the unique purpose to remind you which cap to screw on which valve. If there is a mechanical linkage (like uniball), there is no need for strings. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Seth Urbach Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 5:44 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions Hello all, I am trying to pick up playing the horn again after being in college for 4 years. I played for 5 years, in middle and high school, but I am still kind of a greenhorn ( pardon the pun ;) I was hoping someone could answer a couple of questions I have. First, I never learned any of the science behind picking a mouthpiece. Does anyone know of a good website or other resource where I can learn the types, differences, benefits, and pitfalls of horn mouthpieces? I have always just played with the mouthpiece that came with the horn the school loaned me. I would like to know what makes mouthpieces different from each other. Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767, It has: 157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps 56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap 56 stamped on the keys I do not know what these numbers are for, maybe replacement part numbers? Something unique about it, I thought, was that all of the rotors have mechanical linkage to the keys; there are no strings for rotating the valves. It is a Kruspe style wrap horn. It comes with a Reynolds-Pottag Model 6A Mouthpiece. It has dents and lacquer missing, but plays fine, to the store's and my knowledge. Does anyone have any comments to make on such a horn? Third, I am hoping to play with my church worship band. I live in Oregon. Does anyone know of a good resource for finding Worship Sheet Music? Will I most likely need to transpose from another instrument for a majority of songs? Thank you in advance for any help you are able to provide me. Seth Urbach - Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: Green-horn Questions
As far as I know, Getzen never sold a Kruspe style horn but there was one that looked just like a Conn 6D, you should be able to find a picture of a 6D on eBay. The other model was a compensating horn. Both were made in Italy and imported by Getzen (and others). They are spectacularly mediochre if not leaking. Definitely get somebody who can really play to try it before you buy. You could be buying a gurantee that you will have no talent. - Steve Mumford Second, a local shop has found a used double horn for me that I am thinking of getting. It is a Getzen Elkhorn, Serial Number 02767, It has: 157, 158, 159 stamped on the valves and valve caps 56 stamped on the Bb valve and valve cap 56 stamped on the keys It is a Kruspe style wrap horn ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips
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Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips
Chopsaver is a brand of lip balm that is fantastic for your chops. Check out the web site: www.chopsaver.com Luke Zyla - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips what is chopsaver? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lzyla%40charter.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips
Usually the assistant, haha, if used right !!! == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:18 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips what is chopsaver? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips
It will save you all the many hours needed usually for building up the embouchure strength - a magic cream as most heavily advertised creams - just for those who believe that buying is better than practising. Using this cream will allow you to eat drink anything you want before after the concert = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Luke Zyla Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:29 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips Chopsaver is a brand of lip balm that is fantastic for your chops. Check out the web site: www.chopsaver.com Luke Zyla - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Stiff Lips what is chopsaver? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lzyla%40chart er.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Paging: Herr Pizka
Forgive a private correspondence here, but Herr Pizka, I've sent you a couple of emails about purchasing a mouthpiece from you and have not received a reply. Kindly reply to me privately and we'll continue the conversation. You may now all return to your regularly schedule programming. :) -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] F
Which plays better, your single F horn or your standard double on the F
side?
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Re: [Hornlist] F
At 9:02 PM -0500 3/5/06, David Goldberg wrote: Which plays better, your single F horn or your standard double on the F side? There you go, David, joking around again. Are you asking about two specific horns? If so, which ones? The single that Steve left a pencil in the bore of? Your Geyer? One of my junk 4D's or my new primo one and my 8D or my old Wunderlich compensating double that I sold for $25 USD? For me, my old-new 4D plays much, much better than my great 60-year-old 8D on the F side. I figure there's a 5% accuracy difference between the two horns; I get 5% more notes on the 8D than on the 4D. However, I do my practicing on the 4D, so I figure if I'm hitting the notes on the single F horn, I'm doing much better on the double 8D than if I were doing my practicing on it. How was your trip? It obviously affected your sense of humor. Carlberg -- My ISP feels that some of my e-mails are not worthy of deliverance. If you do not receive something you expect, please ask me to resend. I apologize for my ISP's evaluation of my e-mail's worthiness. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] F
At 9:02 PM -0500 3/5/06, David Goldberg wrote: Which plays better, your single F horn or your standard double on the F side? Oh, my God. I just sent private e-mail to the entire list. Please accept my apology, and I'm sorry to have wasted your time. Carlberg -- My ISP feels that some of my e-mails are not worthy of deliverance. If you do not receive something you expect, please ask me to resend. I apologize for my ISP's evaluation of my e-mail's worthiness. Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: Re: [Hornlist] Green-horn Que stions Re: start off on an
On 3 6, 2006, at 3:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: from: Fred Baucom [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: [Hornlist] Green-horn Questions Hi Seth, Since you are just getting into mouthpieces, a good place to start is the first chapter of Philip Farkas' book, The Art of French Horn Playing. This book is a gold mine of basic information about all facets related to horn. Retails for $15. In fact, this is your lucky day - the 'excerpt' provided on Amazon for this book is the mouthpiece chapter: http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0874870216/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-0667743 -2244626#reader-link Nice link! Thanks, Fred. (In case you didn't try it) keep clicking on the page that comes up after you click on Excerpt, and it moves through several more pages, one of which concludes; I prefer to see all beginners use the F horn. 'Nuff said? Simon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Paging: Herr Pizka
Hello Steve, your inquiry was from Saturday only and I am very busy at the moment. With the Giardinelly you have got a very good mouthpiece. It is not much different from my mouthpieces. But I am sold out anyway waiting for the new production. As you know perhaps, we are sunk in snow chaos at the moment which makes everything going slow. But I do not recommend to buy my mouthpiece at the moment. Would be a waste of money. Kindest greetings Hans = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Freides Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:23 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: [Hornlist] Paging: Herr Pizka Forgive a private correspondence here, but Herr Pizka, I've sent you a couple of emails about purchasing a mouthpiece from you and have not received a reply. Kindly reply to me privately and we'll continue the conversation. You may now all return to your regularly schedule programming. :) -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] F
David, I have not seen a horn playing better than another.
It is the player. My standard double has the Viennese bore
also, and the Viennese bell section (even the flare is
bigger). But the single F gives a better result (F-horn
wise) as it is free of the additional bends.
Greetings
Hans
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Which plays better, your single F horn or your standard
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