RE: [Hornlist] PPPPP-FFFFF
One rehearsal working with Gunther Schuller we were given a fairly extended explication of Schuller's theory that the reason Tchaikowsky used p to f dynamics is that he wanted a finer scale of gradations than what the traditional markings offer. In other words, p remains very soft, perhaps equivalent to ppp in more traditional interpretation. Likewise, f is about equal to fff, or the top of the loud end of the scale. The result is that there are more points of demarcation along the range of dynamic levels from soft to loud. Makes sense. Cool idea. However, only a little while into the rehearsal, he stopped the orchestra and began to berate us for not playing loudly enough when the music was marked ff. It says FF!!! Play it loudly!!! ...so much for a finer scale in the range of expressions. Happy tooting, Robert Dickow Assoc Prof of Horn, Theory, Comp Lionel Hampton School of Music Univ. of Idaho -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WIlliam Botte Sent: Monday, July 17, 2006 2:29 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] P-F Perhaps the composers are guilty of hubris and hyperbole? Or common sence. --wabotte ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/dickow%40uidaho.edu -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/389 - Release Date: 7/14/2006 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Mahler terms list of VPO players on Bernstein recordings
Hello all The Mahlerterms their translation are up on my Web again as well as the list of the VPO horn players on the recordings with Bernstein. Find all on my Web at www.pizka.de Scroll to Sitemap find the two Mahler respectively GMahler pages. Greetings from very hot Munich expecting 36 to 39 centigrades today, where most buildings have no aircon, but I have got it installed for our sleeping room years ago. If it helps just the two extremely hot days a year, it was worth the relatively moderate expense of 1500.- EUR. Many hotels dont have it, so you will be cooked in your own fat. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22
I'm not certain about the Omaha side of the state, but the eastern side of Iowa has a true craftsman available for more than reasonable rates. I highly recommend Merlin Grady, Grady Instrument Service, in Waterloo, IA. Merlin is not a horn specialist, but is probably one of the top trombone repair techs in the world. He is a real hidden treasure. Like any of our top line horn repair people, however, he will not let an instrument out of the shop until he has everything working the way it should. Merlin uses an ultrasonic cleaning machine, (16 transducers operating at 60K cycles, I've seen clouds of red rouge come out of brand new, supposedly clean instruments), all slides, rotors, etc. will be cleaned and trued as needed. He doesn't run the cleaner everyday, so you should call him before you take the instrument up. Normally it will be same day or two day service, depending on the workload at the shop. Cost will be around $100, depending on the amount of other repair/dent work to be done. I've had Merlin work on my vintage Kruspe for over 11 years now, and have had superior service from him. Contact info is: Merlin Grady, Grady Instrument Service, Waterloo, IA. Phone-(319) 232-6297 Andy Harris, Principal Horn, Cedar Rapids Symphony, Kruspe Driver with a paper thin bell that dents when the wind blows over 5 mph... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Rice Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:16 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 Along these lines...does anyone have a recomendation for a repair person in Iowa? I do not need any major work, just a cleaning and possibly some work on a slow valve. Thanks. -Joni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/18/2006 11:50 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 I guess I'd have to agree with that. I've gone through a lot of eBay horns and I always get a money back agreement if the horn is wrecked. Home handymen usually limit themselves to applying a pound of plumbers lead to fix a loose brace. The worst damage, by far, is done by people who are operating as repairmen. I can understand the reasoning behind warning people to refrain from working on their own instruments, but it is the same horror story the incompetent repairmen repeat. Every chance I get, I instruct players how to take their rotors apart for cleaning out a valve sticker. For some reason, that bit of knowledge seems to give them better judgment about finding good repair techs. It also may help that I leave them with the names. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 2:43 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 of course the problem is that the biggest damage-doers (wow, sounds like W there) never recognize themselves. My comments are based on 30 years of undoing bad repairs done by experts. - Steve Mumford Bill writes: It's interesting that the schedule of repair surcharges is in no way related to actual damage, only to the perceived audacity of the attempt. I find that very few people are the incompetent idiots you portray. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/j-rice%40cornellcollege.edu -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/391 - Release Date: 7/18/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.1/391 - Release Date: 7/18/2006 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22
Interestingly, by far the most horrible damage I've seen comes from cleaning. I suspect it is the work of a greedy person who manages to get a contract to clean all the brasses of a school district in preparation for the new year. Seeing this as easy money, they use chemicals that literally dissolve the brass. A quick dip does the job. Longer than a quick dip dissolves the metal. Then you're faced with the problem of neutralizing the residue. Even if the procedure works as planned, doing this every year soon ruins the instrument for any kind of restoration. Now, here I am spreading horror stories, but the person doing it can easily convince you that he has 'special' equipment and expertise. I certainly don't intend to demean any of the technicians contributing to the list. One of the major advantages to subscribing to the list is for locating trustworthy repair techs. You're doing the right thing. However, learning how to take your horn apart to thoroughly clean it out with brushes and cheap detergent once a year will add greatly to your confidence and piece of mind. Perhaps the repair people who are contributors here and are represented at shows and conventions could arrange a $20 seminar at the shows where players can take their own horn apart under supervision, clean it, and learn how to assess what additional work might be a good idea next time shop services are needed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:16 PM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 Along these lines...does anyone have a recomendation for a repair person in Iowa? I do not need any major work, just a cleaning and possibly some work on a slow valve. Thanks. -Joni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/18/2006 11:50 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 I guess I'd have to agree with that. I've gone through a lot of eBay horns and I always get a money back agreement if the horn is wrecked. Home handymen usually limit themselves to applying a pound of plumbers lead to fix a loose brace. The worst damage, by far, is done by people who are operating as repairmen. I can understand the reasoning behind warning people to refrain from working on their own instruments, but it is the same horror story the incompetent repairmen repeat. Every chance I get, I instruct players how to take their rotors apart for cleaning out a valve sticker. For some reason, that bit of knowledge seems to give them better judgment about finding good repair techs. It also may help that I leave them with the names. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 2:43 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 of course the problem is that the biggest damage-doers (wow, sounds like W there) never recognize themselves. My comments are based on 30 years of undoing bad repairs done by experts. - Steve Mumford Bill writes: It's interesting that the schedule of repair surcharges is in no way related to actual damage, only to the perceived audacity of the attempt. I find that very few people are the incompetent idiots you portray. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/j-rice%40cornellcollege.ed u ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Recording
My Sony minidisc, a few years old, can adjust the recording level while recording. Of course you have to set it to manual each time you record. My biggest gripe is that I cannot upload the music to the computer except by playing it and recording on the computer. I've gone to recording directly on the laptop. Herb Foster --- Howard Sanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Now for the important question: Can you adjust the recording level on your Sony minidisc machine without putting it in pause? Mine, several years old now, I like quite a lot, with the glaring exception of that. Which is why I bought a Sharp. ... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22
Valves haven't become too popular in Iowa yet. I've worked with MUSCO Mobile lighting in Oskaloosa, and tease them that their idea of a central location is the middle of nowhere. If anyone wants to get a really good F horn, cheap, Reynolds Contempora French Horn with mp case Item number: 220006913848 is going off on eBay in the next day, now at $29, with an Eb crook. This is a full range F horn by design and produces the outstanding tonal quality that all Reynolds Contempora instruments share. This particular model has very robust rotors that will play like new, especially if the bearings are tightened. This is not the oversized F side of a double horn, and will feel a bit small at first. I have put several students on these horns and find they can usually handle a Schilke 31B, or at least a Bach 7. If you're worried about the valves, this horn is the ideal candidate for a valvectomy. Since the horn has multiple tuning slides, the Eb slide can be pulled to D. Still, the F horn tone quality is what sets this model apart. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 3:30 AM Subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 I'm not certain about the Omaha side of the state, but the eastern side of Iowa has a true craftsman available for more than reasonable rates. I highly recommend Merlin Grady, Grady Instrument Service, in Waterloo, IA. Merlin is not a horn specialist, but is probably one of the top trombone repair techs in the world. He is a real hidden treasure. Like any of our top line horn repair people, however, he will not let an instrument out of the shop until he has everything working the way it should. Merlin uses an ultrasonic cleaning machine, (16 transducers operating at 60K cycles, I've seen clouds of red rouge come out of brand new, supposedly clean instruments), all slides, rotors, etc. will be cleaned and trued as needed. He doesn't run the cleaner everyday, so you should call him before you take the instrument up. Normally it will be same day or two day service, depending on the workload at the shop. Cost will be around $100, depending on the amount of other repair/dent work to be done. I've had Merlin work on my vintage Kruspe for over 11 years now, and have had superior service from him. Contact info is: Merlin Grady, Grady Instrument Service, Waterloo, IA. Phone-(319) 232-6297 Andy Harris, Principal Horn, Cedar Rapids Symphony, Kruspe Driver with a paper thin bell that dents when the wind blows over 5 mph... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joni Rice Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:16 AM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 Along these lines...does anyone have a recomendation for a repair person in Iowa? I do not need any major work, just a cleaning and possibly some work on a slow valve. Thanks. -Joni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 7/18/2006 11:50 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 I guess I'd have to agree with that. I've gone through a lot of eBay horns and I always get a money back agreement if the horn is wrecked. Home handymen usually limit themselves to applying a pound of plumbers lead to fix a loose brace. The worst damage, by far, is done by people who are operating as repairmen. I can understand the reasoning behind warning people to refrain from working on their own instruments, but it is the same horror story the incompetent repairmen repeat. Every chance I get, I instruct players how to take their rotors apart for cleaning out a valve sticker. For some reason, that bit of knowledge seems to give them better judgment about finding good repair techs. It also may help that I leave them with the names. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 2:43 PM Subject: [Hornlist] RE: Horn Digest, Vol 43, Issue 22 of course the problem is that the biggest damage-doers (wow, sounds like W there) never recognize themselves. My comments are based on 30 years of undoing bad repairs done by experts. - Steve Mumford Bill writes: It's interesting that the schedule of repair surcharges is in no way related to actual damage, only to the perceived audacity of the attempt. I find that very few people are the incompetent idiots you portray. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com Check out AOL.com today. Breaking news, video search, pictures, email and IM. All on demand. Always Free. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set
[Hornlist] RE: Pliers? NO NO NO
date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 20:29:51 -0400 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Pliers? NO NO NO It's interesting that the schedule of repair surcharges is in no way related to actual damage, only to the perceived audacity of the attempt. I find that very few people are the incompetent idiots you portray. I've been teaching people how to take rotors apart for cleaning for many years. Almost anyone can do a good job and the truly incompetent invariably recognize their own weakness. The key to success is to have the right tool at hand. The right screw driver and some cleaning brushes can disassemble most dirty, sticky rotors in minutes. If it won't free up, it will allow determining how serious the problem is and put you on to a repairman trying to run up the bill by telling horror stories. On the other hand, as long as the horn is going into the shop, take the opportunity to get all the routine work done at the same time so the repairman can put the horn into a condition that will be stable for time to come. Bill, I think Steve's point was to say that pliers were not the right tool to use. He was not calling anyone incompetent, just letting those on the list who havn't been taught how to remove their rotors know that pliers can really damage the Horn. To elaborate on that (for those people on the list), pliers will really gnash up the surface of the stop arm, which can leave burs that could cut the string. One can also easily bend the valve stem. It's also quite easy to dent something if you slip, and those dents are almost always difficult to reach, which means they cost more. Take care, Stuart de Haro Stuart A. de Haro, Custom Horns, Leadpipes, Brass Repair and Modification (217) 377-1462 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deharohorns.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Recording
Just a quick note - Minidisc recorders are actually pretty cool for what they are, but there are better things out there for around the same $$ which are even better. Case in point, the Maudio MicroTrack (link to Sweetwater who sells this in the states - http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MicroTrack/). This particular device actually has basic little microphone preamplifiers inside which means you can use better quality and more readily available condenser microphones (using built-in phantom power). This also provides you a little more flexibility. As well, since it records to memory card (solid state memory) there are no moving parts and the memory is far more robust than mini-discs. Plus, you can record uncompressed at high resolutions if you want to. (In other words, you could actually use this as a rather powerful recorder further on down the line if you really wanted to!) Of course, for the price of either the mini-disc recorder or the Mtrack, you could always just schedule time in a studio for less money and get a truly professional product. Just some thoughts. J. message: 4 date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 16:34:43 -0500 from: Joni Rice [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: RE: [Hornlist] Recording Where did you happen to buy this recorder, and what model # is it. I am looking for something similar to record myself and my trio for a college project. Thanks! -Joni -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Daniel Canarutto Sent: Sun 7/16/2006 3:11 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Recording I bought a Sony minidisk recorder (the sole cheap recording device I found at a local shop) and I'm quite satisfied. I recorded a concert of my wind octet and the sound is nice, the balance between the different instruments excellent. I could even issue a CD, were it not for a few mistakes ;-). Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Religious Instruments NHR
from: Klaus Bjerre [EMAIL PROTECTED] We shall not discuss neither religion ok Today I am the conservative, as I am very close to the Old Testament style Jews. This is no problem. I do not sit in judgment of any religion whatsoever. I told, that I was not ashamed of being a Jew although I am what is called a 'born again fundamentalist Christian', my mother is of Jewish ancestry; therefore, according to many Orthodox Jews I have met, this makes me Jewish by inheritance, if not religious practice. and, I am proud of it, believe it or not. Jesus could not be understood as anything but a Jew This is not the issue. It is not a problem where I am personally concerned. Even if one can read the original texts Yes, I am still searching for the GREEK Bible. Unfortunately, according to my father who speaks and reads modern Greek fluently; this Bible is in ANCIENT Greek-and therefore a proper translation may not even exist. Modern Greek is not the same as Ancient Greekbe that as it may, I must make do with the KJ for now. wikipedia may have it The German text says: Sie schallt, die Posaune (She sounds, the trombone). with all due respect to your education and knowledge: I am sorry: 'SIE does not mean 'SHE': The translation THEY sound the trombone. The article 'SIE' is the formal German translation of 'THEY'. SIE is not the word for LADY. FRAU or FRAULEIN is the word for lady-(Hans pls correct me on this if I am wrong) A small German articles example der des dem den die der der die das des dem das and that is just part of it. Every noun is capitalized. Every noun has its specific article set assigned. I do not know all of these; just some of them. Some examples to address someone in differing respect categories: Du Bist (you are-informal-very informal) Sie Sind (you are-singular-FORMAL) Ihr Seid (you are-PLURAL-FORMAL)) Were one to say 'the lady played the trombone'; it could be translated several ways, depending upon the formality of the occasion: The informal version Das Maedchen schallt. The formal version Die Frau schallt Or Diese Frau schallt-meaning a SPECIFIC person plays the trombone. and there are many more but I cannot do them all here.Hans could though. Maedchen is the word for 'girl' and is never used in presence of an adult female. I cannot do the 'umlauts' so I must add the extra 'e' to the umlaut words. Frau and Fraulein (umlaut excluded here) are formal expressions to adult females. I would expect Hans to jump right in with his corrections here :} :} :} best wishes Hans The Shofar was a trumpet made out of a rams horn Yes. The Bible makes hardly any distinction between trumpet and horn. (I wish they'd make up their MINDS :} Jerusalem temple having silver trumpets I'll try to find this out from a Bible scholar I know and I will tell you personally if I do find something. The main 3 bible versions snipdo not concur in every detail Yes this is a problem. This is the reason most folks try not to 'go there' when Bible version squabbles occur. The main message appears to remain constant;this is true. The message of Praise the Lord appears everywhere. The Lord is a jealous God. This appears everywhere as well. Would it not be logical for folks to proceed with worship according to these main precepts instead of squabbling over specific translations? This is a very personal demonstration of my biases That's ok. We are all free to speak what we will. I had to tell them to get my horn related message through. and it was professionally stated...well done. Mahler has some very remarkable horn calls reference to the Shofar playing Are the Shofar texts available for anyone who is not a rabbi? I'd be personally interested in comparing similarity between Mahler and a shofar call.. I have around 65 brassessnipallergic I am sorry to hear that. I have in my possession an extremely rare Japanese 'conch' horn-a picture of one once appeared on the Horn Call some years back. It is a lovely piece; patterned like a mosaic and sporting a mouthpiece and the 'red tie'. It also plays only two notes: B flat and B flat (octave). I viewed a video of some priests blowing one of these. They blow only ONE tone. Just one. The same goes for Shinto-when one enters a Shinto temple, there is a gong-like instrument at the entrance. This is to be struck with the mallet just ONCE. The number ONE may or may not symbolize the One God (who is not featured in Shinto-which, as I recall, believes in 'the nothing?') (someone may set me straight on Shinto) you could have deleted this posting never. You have some of the most intelligent remarks I have seen. best wishes -- Rachel ___ ...It only goes to show that if you keep your head firmly tucked into your Kopprasch, nothing can hurt you-as long as the metronome doesn't run down... ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or
[Hornlist] BB's suggestion
Bill Bamberg has made a very good suggestion. I would pay to have a very good tech teach me service my horn. $20.00 is cheap price for a well structured course with a low teacher/student ratio. A slide show won't do. The student should have a list of tools to be bought for the course and brought with them. --wabotte ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Pitches and Colours
Hornfolks Okay, this may be a bit esoteric for some; but for those who are curious, please feel free to read on I posted a paper on this subject about 8 years ago on the spock list. I believe it may be worth revisiting the subject. If I can locate the original paper, I will repost it. Indeed, there are other doctoral theses addressing this subject. Question: How many of you see colours when hearing certain pitches, chords, or even musical texture? (concert pitches) Specifically what pitches are seen? (I will not ask for chords) In my case: C is beige or white C Sharp is a dark reddish brown D FLAT is a yellowish brown D is brown D Sharp is brown with some white streaks E Flat is an umber (burnt yellow) E is a shiny yellow F is sky blue F Sharp is scarlet G Flat is a dull green G is brownish green G Sharp is lime green A Flat is a pinky red brown A is dark red A Sharp is red shot with black B Flat is black B is gray C flat is white with gray Chords-the colours seen with particular chords are specific but I will not address this here. Suffice to say, when I listen to a piece of music, let's say Sibelius for example, I am inundated with a wealth of colour in addition to sound and texture. It is truly more than just 'hearing the notes' here. The ending of the last movement is a spectacular example of colour and texture-as are the whole-tone horn progressions scattered throughout-and indeed I have used these as the basis for one of my own compositions. When I PLAY a piece of music, the emotional context is added to the formula-in addition to awareness of one's performance, awareness of fellow musicians, awareness of the conductor, and awareness of the audience and the specific venue (the stage and the audience area). These things do not occur simultaneously, but in pieces. It only becomes overwhelming when some things DO occur concurrently-but this is such an ambiguous subject that I cannot say for sure what is happening at any point in time. comments are welcome. flames? go ahead, make my day.. -- Rachel ___ ...It only goes to show that if you keep your head firmly tucked into your Kopprasch, nothing can hurt you-as long as the metronome doesn't run down... ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Hornlist subscriber list and bounced email - NHR
On Jul 19, 2006, at 2:08 PM, harveycor wrote: Now if I had the entire whois for both lists-I would put all of you on the permissions...Gary, does the FAQ have this like it did when we were on spock? A number of things, including retrieving a membership list, can be done with email commands to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For a complete list of commands available send an email from your subscribed address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of help (no quotes) and an empty body. Note that the subscribers list is only available to other subscribers, and does NOT include those who have chosen on their personal options page (a link to which is at the bottom of this message) to have their address hidden. A warning, though, Rachel: that list is currently about 1000 addresses ;-) From time to time I get messages from subscribers that have been sent to mailman or [EMAIL PROTECTED] asking why they suddenly stopped getting list posts. Usually they have email addresses @ AOL or Hotmail, though the problem can happen with any ISP. AOL in particular seems to regularly change the rules they use to filter spam from users' accounts, and quite often rejects perfectly legitimate email without notifying the user. When this happens, Mailman (the list server) records this as a bounce, and when enough of them accumulate, the user's subscription is disabled. Although mailman notifies the user, that notification is also frequently bounced as spam, so if you suddenly stop receiving horn posts with no explanation, go to your options page and check to see if delivery has been disabled. It's a simple matter to enable it once again, and then you need to work with your isp to figure out what settings to use on your email account to allow posts through. In general, a good way to assure that you receive horn list mail, and this is especially for AOL and Hotmail subscribers, is to put @music.memphis.edu possibly with a wildcard character such as * before the @, in your list of approved senders. Actual syntax will vary depending on the ISP. Horn list posts are personalized and VERPed (google it if you wish) so the actual return address and envelope sender on a post is something like horn-bounces [EMAIL PROTECTED] - just substitute your address (with an = sign in the same place) for the dan=music.memphis.edu part and put that in your address book. If you have any trouble receiving posts, please don't hesitate to contact me - but not for the next two weeks; I'm off to Cape Town tomorrow for IHS :-) Who else is going? Dan not the list owner, I just run the machine that hosts it Phillips Dan Phillips Associate Professor Rudi E. Scheidt School of Music University of Memphis [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] DIY horn repair, etc.
Do-it-yourself horn repair might seem appealing, but be very careful if you attempt it. Even a job like re-stringing valves is not trivial. Small screws can be lost or broken, adjusting the levers so the keys are at the right height is not obvious, getting the right tension in the strings needs some finesse, etc. If you are 'handy' with other mechanical items (change your own watch battery/strap, faucet washers, minor toilet repairs, assemble 'kit' furniture, repair an electrical cord, etc.) then perhaps some diy horn work would be ok. DIY get easier after about the 4th time - but those first bouts are real 'learning experiences'... Jay Kosta Endwell NY ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: repairs in Iowa
I'll second that recommendation of Merlin Grady. He's truly a fine craftsman and a fine gentleman. Another thought on the other end of the state is the instrument repair program at the community college in Sioux Falls. I'm blanking on the name right now, but the fellow who runs the program is very good. - Steve Mumford Andy wrote: I'm not certain about the Omaha side of the state, but the eastern side = of Iowa has a true craftsman available for more than reasonable rates. I = highly recommend Merlin Grady, Grady Instrument Service, in Waterloo, IA. = Merlin is not a horn specialist, but is probably one of the top trombone repair = techs in the world. He is a real hidden treasure. Like any of our top line = horn repair people, however, he will not let an instrument out of the shop = until he has everything working the way it should. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] RE: Recording
Joni Rice wonders: Where did you happen to buy this recorder, and what model # is it. I am looking for something similar to record myself and my trio for a college project. Thanks! I have gotten all my minidisc equipment and supplies from http://www.minidisco.com I have no affiliation with them beyond that of satisfied customer. However, if you have nothing and are starting from scratch, I'd recommend getting a flash memory recorder instead. One example is the M-Audio 24/96, which costs around $400 (i.e., not too much more than a minidisc). minidisco has flash memory recorders, too (as do other vendors). Even minidisco lists flash recorders first among portable recorders. The 24/96 is about the size of a deck of cards or pack of cigarettes. It is clear to me that the world is moving away from storage devices with moving parts. (I suspect the hard disk drive will be history in less than five years.) I wonder how much longer minidiscs will be supported. In addition, though I think minidiscs, even in LP2 mode, sound good, they do use a lossy compression scheme. Flash memory recorders do not compress the audio. Another reason is that most, maybe all, flash memory recorders use balanced I/O. This will reduce noise pickup with even moderate cable runs, a major factor in our world of light dimmers, wireless Internet, satellite TV, and so on. Someeone emailed me privately about noise pickup with unbalanded I/O a few days ago. I'll let him speak for himself. Balanced I/O also makes it easier to use high-quality, phantom-powered microphones if you want. We've discussed the M-Audio 24/96 on the Ampex Mailing List (http://recordist.com/ampex). Several people have reported that it does not put out a full 48VDC for phantom power. Whether M-Audio has or plans to fix this I do not know. I do know that many if not most phantom-powered microphones use the 48VDC to polarize the capsule and will be noisier than they should be with lower voltage. The bottom line, though, is to find a reasonable storage medium and spend the majority of your money on a pair of high-quality condenser microphones. HTH. Howard Sanner [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
