[Hornlist] Basta ?
LT, have not asked others to support or defend me. "Basta" means just "Stop it!" or as Mozart used it with "Basta cosi !" - "Finish !". Regarding Saudis ? You can not even think such. Is your country in war with Saudi Arabia ? I did not know that. Anyway, your way of thinking about other people like "boom-booom & kill", does really not speak for you. Sorry about this NHR letter. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 4:42 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka < .. Oh and nice mention of the Saudi's. We kill them just like German's killed Poles back in the day huh? "Basta" are you sure about that? LT ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Speed of crook changing?
Even as long in the trade as me, I do not recall it, but I doubt if they had the crooks hung over their wrist for a quick change. Think, what a mess, if you assembled them in the wrong order ? What a chance for clonking ? Mozart would not have allowed it. They had their wooden music stands with plenty hooks or a board to place the crooks. Still again a good chance for clonking. But my question : Have you ever visited a church in Austria & visited the choirs place there ? Did you notice the wooden massive music stads with the four or five hooks ? That´s the way<, they managed the crook problem. They used the handhorn until late in the 19th century there in the village churches. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Kampen Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 10:10 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Speed of crook changing? Message text written by The Horn List >the crook holder we use is one of those bendy rubbery plastic things simply bent over into hooks on either end so that it hangs onto the stand and has a lower "u" shaped bit to hang the crooks on (sounds more complicated than it is) < Dear All When we did the on-stage wind octet in Act 2 Scene X111 of Mozart's Don Giovanni on hand horns many moons ago (I still have a photo of us in the costumes - good for a laugh!) we hung the crooks (D, F and B flat) round our necks on lengths of ribbon. The late lamented Richard Mereweather came to the show one night when we were on tour (Oxford I seem to recall but it was a very long time ago) and was not impressed. He said that Mozart's players would have hung them over their wrists for quick changes. To follow yesterday's posts about this method - was it used in Mozart's day? Cheers Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka
In a message dated 9/9/06 10:18:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > There is a saying we have here in the good old US of A...Don't dish it out > if > you > can't take it back! > We have another saying here in the good old US of A---one worth considering here during these particular exchanges--- "Sometimes it is better to remain quiet and be thought of as a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt". Paul Navarro ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka
Hans Your English fails you. Sarcasm is also a mystery to you. Unless you were the person(s) who sent me the offending emails, then you have nothing to worry about. You have shown coolness under attack (either that or some of my posts go over your head), this is much more impressive than the people on here who said nothing but a few 4 letter words. Are these people really your friends? Oh and nice mention of the Saudi's. We kill them just like German's killed Poles back in the day huh? "Basta" are you sure about that? LT ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Hans support
It is okay for your guys to print your supporting thoughts of Hans, but then to attach the offending diatribe, to attach the trash all over again, just isn't thinking on your part. When you strongly don't like something, don't reprint it. I appreciate Hans, too. See how I can state that without attaching all the trash? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: unwaranted attack on .....
Does that mean that you would like for someone to throw their fine china at you, or did you actually intend to say "dissed"? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=diss&r=f JEN --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well "Ltraxx, Here in america we call you an Asshole!!! > > Hoss Johnson > > Waiting to be dished. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Unwarranted attack onf Prof. Pizka
Hi all, I personally think that we should get back to the old path :after all , It is a horn list... Regularly I tend to argue fiercely about political issues. Unlike Chinese food or Japanese music , for some people , it is , literally , a matter of life and death . But I really get the feeling sometimes , that I need a refuge. The list is a sacred domain in the sense that it is not and should not be dedicated to anything else but the art of horn playing . Alon Reuven , Israel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Speed of crook changing?
Message text written by The Horn List >the crook holder we use is one of those bendy rubbery plastic things simply bent over into hooks on either end so that it hangs onto the stand and has a lower "u" shaped bit to hang the crooks on (sounds more complicated than it is) < Dear All When we did the on-stage wind octet in Act 2 Scene X111 of Mozart's Don Giovanni on hand horns many moons ago (I still have a photo of us in the costumes - good for a laugh!) we hung the crooks (D, F and B flat) round our necks on lengths of ribbon. The late lamented Richard Mereweather came to the show one night when we were on tour (Oxford I seem to recall but it was a very long time ago) and was not impressed. He said that Mozart's players would have hung them over their wrists for quick changes. To follow yesterday's posts about this method - was it used in Mozart's day? Cheers Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Bruckner 4th in the 50s
Message text written by The Horn List >Aside: I have heard that Klemperer, a frequent conductor of the Philharmonia and responsible for many recordings of that group, did not care for Brain's playing. Does anyone (Paul, Hans, Lawrence, anybody) < Dear Peter This is often said. There is no doubt that, as Walter Legge recalls in his memoirs, HMV attempted to record the Hindemith Concerto with DB and Klemperer but DB finally walked out of the session in disgust. Legge re-scheduled the evening session for another work and instructed DB to go in and play 1st horn as if nothing was amiss. This is what happened and DB later recorded the concerto with Hindemith himself conducting. I will never forget the only time when I saw Klemperer conduct. He was brought on by two 'minders' - never faced or acknowledged the audience - and went off with the same two minders without bowing to the applause for what had been a searing performance of Mahler 9 in the Usher Hall, Edinburgh. I was at the festival taking part in some performances conducted by Daniel Barenboim and it strikes me that there could not have been a greater contrast between conductors - a mercurial young man (as Barenboim was then) and a man seemingly fashioned out of the same granite as the City of Edinburgh itself. Blimy, was it really 38 years ago? (answer - "yes you old fart!") Cheers Paul A. Kampen (W. Yorks UK) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: unwaranted attack on .....
Strange, we have a new phenomenon. It may take a while for us to return to the steady state condition. This odd datum that does't follow earlier cycles always do screw up predictions. I guess this we have been exposed to a permutation in the normal cycle behavior of the horn list. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:58 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: unwaranted attack on . Well "Ltraxx, Here in america we call you an Asshole!!! Hoss Johnson Waiting to be dished. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: unwaranted attack on .....
That's helpful. Shel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 12:58 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: unwaranted attack on . Well "Ltraxx, Here in america we call you an Asshole!!! Hoss Johnson Waiting to be dished. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/skirshner%40ameritech.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Re: unwaranted attack on .....
Well "Ltraxx, Here in america we call you an Asshole!!! Hoss Johnson Waiting to be dished. Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re:Quick changing crooks
Herb, this was for valve horn. Reason: the same as in Wagners operas past 1850 & in all R.Strauss operas. Reading in E eliminates 5 sharps !!! Very simple. But we had discussed that just at the beginning of this month. Greetings Hans ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re:Quick changing crooks
Of course someone has to come up with an exception... In Dvorak's Symphony from the New World in the last movement the horn parts go from E to F and back to E. I assume that was written for the valved horn, so there are no crook changes. Why was this done? To keep the horn players on their toes? Does this happen for any other instrument? Herb Foster --- hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > The half step solution is not necessary as practical it > seems to be on the first look. Half step tonality changes > are rarely requested. You wuill have enough time allways, > except if the conductor & producers are that crazy ignorants > of musical principle that rests or intermissions are part of > the music. Changes within one single number dont got > halfstepwise but rather follow the complementary tonality > principle or pairwise principle. > ... __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
