[Hornlist] Re: My Secret Guide to Success
Best Horntrash post I've seen to date. Thanks for all your hard work. It must take you twice as long as the rest of us to write your messages. BTW: proper German, including word, order would be: Herr Doktor Professor I. B . MitSchiesseVerstopft One of my grandfathers grew up in northern Pennsylvania, where there were a lot of Ahmisch Pennsylvania Dutch, and always got a kick out of German word order. His favorite example was Hey Heinrich, throw the cow over the fence some hay! Richard Hirsh, Chicago [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, you are all making wonderings lately of going to schools and becoming pros and wondering what horn sounds best and what horn is legal and illegal and if you make a clam in the forest and no one hears it is it a real clam and now I want to share my deepestest secrets of successfullnesses at musics and my playings of horns of all varieties and it is the mostestest of simples, as you will see, as it is based on the fundamentals of mathematicals: SO, what makes 100% and what does it mean to give MORE than 100% and ever wonder about those people who say they are giving more than 100% and we have all been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100% so how about achieving more than 100% and what makes up 100% in life so now, here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions: If: A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z is represented as: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26. Then: T-A-L-E-N-T 20+1+12+5+13+20 = 70% and H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K 8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98% and K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E 11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96% But , A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E 1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100% and K-O-P-P-R-A-S-C-H 10+14+15+15+17+1+18+3+8 = 101% BUT B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T 2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103% AND, look how far ass kissing will take you. A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G 1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118% So, one can conclude with mathematical certainty that while talent will get you started, hard work and knowledge will get you close, and attitude will get you there, it takes Kopprasch to put you over the top but it's the bullshit and ass kissing that will really make for the mostestest of your successessesses Kindestest of Greetonings and Mostestest of Numerologicals, Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist etc. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Non-Horn Humor
A comedian's diatribe against the Pachelbel Canon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM Enjoy. It's about 5 minutes long. Gary Greene _ Dont quit your job Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. Start Today! http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Re: My Secret Guide to Success
Richard, proper German would be different than yours: Mit Scheisse Verstopft Not Schiesse And the Ahmisch quote: Heh Heinrisch, schmeiss da Kua eppers Hei iban Zaoun - hochdeutsch: Heh, Heinrich, wirf der Kuh etwas Heu ueber den Zaun ! - But there is a certain meaning in it !! Which one ? === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:29 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Re: My Secret Guide to Success Best Horntrash post I've seen to date. Thanks for all your hard work. It must take you twice as long as the rest of us to write your messages. BTW: proper German, including word, order would be: Herr Doktor Professor I. B . MitSchiesseVerstopft One of my grandfathers grew up in northern Pennsylvania, where there were a lot of Ahmisch Pennsylvania Dutch, and always got a kick out of German word order. His favorite example was Hey Heinrich, throw the cow over the fence some hay! Richard Hirsh, Chicago ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Natural LIgeti
In answer to Richard's question about the Ligeti, the writing in the trio is essentially all written to be played on various partials changing fingerings only to go to a different harmonic series (I'm sure no one understands this unless they have seen the score, but I am unable to express it any other way). In his Hamburg concerto for horn, there are several natural horns in the orchestra, each pitched in a different key. I am not sure but I beleive that the solo uses some of the same techniques that I described in the trio. Bill Purvis or M-L Neunecker could probably be more authoritative on this, but I am not in touch with either of them, though I have heard both of them live in these great works and each of them have recorded the trio, Marie-Luise the concerto, too. Peter H. message: 2 date: Tue, 01 May 2007 20:37:10 -0700 from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: [Hornlist] RE: Modern works for Natural horn Richard Burdick wrote: I am working on a list of compositions written since 1900 for the natural horn. So far the list is quite short. I don't know what your exact criteria are, in terms of instrumentation (whether only works which feature the natural horn as a solo instrument are to be included). In any case, your list will grow substantially. In terms of significant works, certainly Ligeti comes to mind. And if you don't mind a mildly cheeky answer, given your 1900 cut-off - how about the Ravel Pavane? Thanks David! I'll put the Ravel on the list for now, I had thought of that too . . . What is the Ligeti? I thought his trio (with violin piano) was for valve horn . . (?) NO exact criteria except I am not really looking for hunting music Richard ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Teaching children, etc.
On May 2, 2007, at 10:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: message: 4 date: Wed, 2 May 2007 01:25:31 EDT from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] subject: Re: [Hornlist] RE: Teaching children... Matthew, Well, you won't change my mind about Bjork. Big time nothing in my book. I don't know this other band you mention. I'll check it out if I have time. Your conductor probably thinks ornaments are only on Christmas trees, so don't worry about it. Just make sure yours are legal. No upward mordents and nothing before the beat! As to philanthropy, position (financial means) is only part of the equation. It starts in one's heart. Some people are more generous than others both with their time and their money. When it comes to philanthropy and volunteer work, time spent helping people often can be worth far more than giving money. Do what you can, either way, The rewards are great. My philosophy is to help people play better. If kids are interested, I find no reason not to teach them, whether they can pay or not. 3 hours a day practice is a ridiculous requirement, except for music majors on scholarship. I expect them to practice enough to make progress and I let them know when they are not. Generally speaking, if you make learning interesting, people get excited and practice plenty. KB In a message dated 5/1/2007 10:33:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kendall, Actually, Bjork to my ears is great. Her band was unrefined, yes i agree, but I liked that, kind of like a atonal wind up music box. Her movie Dancer in the Dark was a beautiful piece. She starred and sang all the music. snip Good for you and your philanthropy, I will hope to be in a position to offer those opportunities you speak of in the future. While I give many free lessons over the year, my lesson rate is expensive too. Personally, I am not looking to have a huge studio of younger students, maybe if all of them were practicing 3 hours a day!! Usually a young student will come in and I will refer them to another teacher I trust in the area, free of charge of course. Mostly it because the parents cannot meet my requirement to be at the lessons. That method works well from my perspective. all the best, Matthew Hey guys, This thread is interesting because it shows how we all deal with teaching issues. Where i am, in good old Silicon Valley, where all parents want their kids to have the best of everything, I often wish they would cut that back to the best of one or two things. Most of the lids that would have been great students 10 years ago are just too busy to be serious around here. That is my biggest problem. They are great kids but they have busier schedules than I do, mostly so they can pad their college applications. I have a little (small, but growing) high school freshman girl who is very talented and quit her school program for this year so she could practice more. Right now she has 3 hour SAT classes right before her horn lessons, on Saturday. I asked her once if she ever went out and flew a kite or just got on her bike and rode. No. There is something very wrong with this picture. Doing something for the love of doing it is a rare commodity around here. But since kids are still kids, thank God, we can still have fun with it. I have some great conversations with them about their lives and I do whatever i can to encourage them to get outside the box once in a while. I am lucky to have had some great kids over the last 5 years or so. They have been some of the best ever (high school). Of course i have university students and adults, along with pros who come in for consultations. It's all good. Some practice more than others. I try to keep my lesson rate ($60 per hour) at a point that keeps people serious but allows them to come each week if they want. Any of you surprised at the low rate? I could charge a lot more, but, like i said, i would rather have people come more often. Maybe it is because my teachers were very reasonable. I have given scholarships to kids that i knew to be in need of them but they contained conditions like practicing (not 3 hours a day : ) ) and showing up every week. One did gardening for me. It doesn't happen often and sometimes the parents suddenly find the money anyway. I also have to deal with the idea out there that I do not teach beginning students or adults who are trying to get back into shape or whatever because of my long tenure as a principal player and of course, the book. It's funny how things that you would think would attract people to you as a teacher can sometimes work against you. I teach quite a few beginners of all ages. I would rather start them myself than have to spend time fixing up embouchures and breathing later on. Anyway, the good news is that I have a whole family of students and ex-students all over the world doing all sorts of things.
Re: [Hornlist] Teaching children, etc.
Good post about teaching. As to Bjork, I did think it was a bit bizarre. If they were putting on, then it was funny. Somehow, I think they were serious. I just thought the music was crap. As to accounting for taste, maybe this is a right coast/left coast thing? As to pop music, I have my favorites but not much of the latest stuff seems very good to me. Why do they leave the C off of rap? What ever happened to good old fashioned Rock 'N Roll? Why doesn't anyone sing like Johnny Mathis or Nat King Cole any more? Would Elvis, Jerry Lee Lewis or Smokey Robinson get anywhere today? Would Peggy Lee win American Idol? What happened to Devo? Would anybody show up at the airport if the Beatles plane landed tomorrow? KB In a message dated 5/2/2007 6:24:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As for Bjork, I am with Matthew on this one. She is a real character and her little back-up band of what appears to be kids, just adds to the surreal quality of the whole thing. Look at their serious little faces. I loved that. Actually Kendall, i am a bit surprised that a man with your complex and zany sense of humor would pass on her, but there is no accounting for taste- and that is a good thing. ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Teaching children, etc.
Just remember one thing...every generation hates the music that their kids listen to... Panic! At The Disco is my favorite right now. Bjork is not. Gary Get Firefox!!http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/central.html ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: My Secret Guide to Success
Rick raved: Best Horntrash post I've seen to date. Thanks for all your hard work. It must take you twice as long as the rest of us to write your messages. Now, I am having the greatestest of gratefulls for your appreciations as there are some who lurk in the backgrounds of the cybernets who have angers and dislikings of me and mein and others on this formidablestest of forums and this is really quite the miniscules of nothingnesses for me to write my schtuff and please have the rememberings that the internet (and especially the horn list) is a vast undertaking and most people who make the writings to our list are pushed for time so, then, what they write is only half vast when comparisons are made to mein but actually I spend less time than you because I make all of my writings in cut time. BTW: proper German, including word, order would be: Herr Doktor Professor I. B . MitSchiesseVerstopft Now, I resemble this remark but it is the mostestest of obviousesses that you do not have any understandings of the true meanings of my name and if you had had the havings of any trainings in gymnasium or even school of Forensical Geneologicals, you would understand that my name is far from proper though it is somewhat German and so it is the mostestest of simples, as my first ancestor was born at a very early age, long, long ago when the world had less people and they took only one name, usually from what was all around them, or what they did, or something easy to remember or whatever so if someone was born in the forest, they might take the name Baum or if in England, Tree, or if near the stream, Bach or Brooks, or if on a moonless night, Schwarz or Black, so you see, for my ancestor is was no problem to assume the name Scheist due to birth place and then what happened is that later, by marriage, the preface mit was added meaning with since there were two and then, when they finally decided to consumate their marriage, my ancestral grand mother kept yelling Gestopft, GESTOPFT (which you also see in the works of Gustav Mahler, especially in the horn parts) and so that got added as it is the mostestest of cherisheded of traditions in my homeland to keeping adding stuff up until you get it right but, you are correct in that I am a man, but you are having the mostestest of errorifications in stating the later as I am not a Doctor, nor do I play one on TV and, I am not I. B. but I. M. which stands for Ignaz Manfred and I have no idea how I got those names as my Mother, Helga Schwarzherzschlutt Gestopftmitscheist was very, VERY, friendly with the many touring horn virtuosi who came to her house in my hometown of Bad Lippstadt, to save their meager per diem on tour so I think my name should have been Franz Oscar or Oscar Franz or maybe Georg Kopprasch or Henri Kling or Friedrich Gumpert Gestopftmitscheist. One of my grandfathers grew up in northern Pennsylvania, where there were a lot of Ahmisch Pennsylvania Dutch, and always got a kick out of German word order. His favorite example was Hey Heinrich, throw the cow over the fence some hay! Now, I do have some familiarities with Penn's Woods as when I lived all those years in Exit 2, New Jersey I was nearby and went to Philadelphia now and then for hockey games and cheesesteaks and the Exit 2 diner actually had some Amish food on the menu and I always enjoyed the scrapple, pretzels, and Shoe Fly Cow Pie which if you ate too much, would put you over the fence and once I dated an Amish girl and she was very nice but she drove me buggy after a while so we broke up. Kindestest of Greetonings and Mostestest of Humblementations, Prof. I. M. Gestopftmitscheist Principal 8th horn and Principal 4th Wagner Tuber, Schplittenotendorf am Oedland Staatsoper und Philharmoniker, (ret.) Solo Horn, Bad Corner Brass Quintet Hornist, Broken Winds WW Quintet Solo 4th Horn (Leader, call me for bookings), Smirnoff Horn Quartet Assistant Associate Principal Mellophone, NJ Turnpike Authority Drum and Bugle Corps, The Phantom Lane Changers (summer only) Hornist as Needed, L'Ensemble du Chambre des Palourdes Principal Natural Horn, I Soloisti di Feces Principal Baroque and Hunting Horn, Camarata Vongoleforte World's Leading Hand Horn Soloist Who Brought the Instrument into the 20th Century (buy my CD of the Hindemith Sonata, Gliere Concerto, and the Davies Sea Eagle on the F crook) Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn and Pest Control, Exit 2 Community College, Exit 2, NJ (Ret.) Adjunct, Part-time, Arms-length Professor of Horn, Pest Control and Home Petroleum Studies, Northern New Hampshire Technical Institute, Bad Corner, NH Author, The Kopprasch Connection, Kopprasch for Fun and Profit, Kopprasch for the New Millenium: Where Do you Fit In? Hooked on Hornonics, What If Saddam Had Given Ouday and Qusay Olds Ambassador or Conn Pan
