[Hornlist] Replacing an 8D leadpipe
Does anyone have an idea as to cost of replacing an Eastlake Conn 8D leadpipe? I would also be happy to have suggestions for pipes that might improve the horn. This is for a student so really expensive professional alternatives would not be the way to go on this one. Thanks for your thoughts. Chris ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beginning Horn Methods
Marc, I have always liked the Belwin Student Method (the green book) and if you can find it the old Universal Method for French Horn. One book which I absolutely believe in is Primary Studies for French Horn by Anton Horner. This is NOT a beginner book but rather a good method for students switching to horn from trumpet etc or for students who have progressed through the beginning material (also very good for serious older students who can progress quickly) c >>> Marc Zyla 6/16/2009 12:53 PM >>> Hello All, I am starting a doctoral teaching fellowship at the University of Illinois, and as a part of my fellowship I am responsible for teaching horn methods to music education majors. I have thought up an assignment for my class that will require the students become familiar with several beginner method books. My question to the horn list community is what are some great beginner method books that I might not be familiar with and I should check out. When I was a young horn player I was brought up through the old Rubank method books for band, as well as Essential Elements and Standard of Excellence. Throughout my private teaching I have come across another great book, the Boosey Brass Method. What might be some other books that some of you all might use and I should incorporate into my class? I appreciate any feedback you might have. Thank you, Marc Zyla University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ( http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Tagged Photos
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Re: [Hornlist] Professional Cleaning?
Indeed Tim and thanks for the nod Steve, and yes, I gladly recommend Randy Ulmer, he's a wizard - great repairman, incredibly fair, and a terrific guy (in addition to being a fine horn player). c >>> Steve Freides 6/4/2009 5:48 PM >>> Randy Ulmer, http://www.randalulmer.com - Tenafly, NJ. Chris Wiljehlm recommended him to me and he's who I use. If you look at his web site, you'll see a lot of other folks use him, too. -S- On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Tim Kecherson wrote: > I am looking for a person who can chemically clean my horn. I also need to > have the bell bracing re-soldered. Does anybody know someone in the northern > New Jersey area without going into the city? Thank you very much. > > -- > Tim Kecherson > > > FREE 3D MARINE AQUARIUM SCREENSAVER - Watch dolphins, sharks & orcas on your > desktop! > Check it out at http://www.inbox.com/marineaquarium > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com ( > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve.freides%40gmail.com ) > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ( http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] "wearable" fixed bell case?
William - the Ken Pope site is great - I have the MB2 which I really do like. c >>> Michiel van der Linden 6/3/2009 12:05 PM >>> On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 17:49, wrote: > Where can you get them? > > -William > Ken Pope, for instance http://www.poperepair.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_52_55 ( http://www.poperepair.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=23_52_55 ) They're relatively expensive, but well worth it. For googling purposes, use the spelling " Marcus Bonna " to get the best search results. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ( http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] "wearable" fixed bell case?
I have a really nice Marcus Bono case for my fixed bell Alex 103. Works on a plane and has backpack straps. c >>> 6/3/2009 11:29 AM >>> I've been looking around for a good wearable (i.e. shoulder strap or backpack straps) fixed bell case and I can't seem to find very many. Detachable bell cases are all over the web, but fixed bell cases not so much. Does anyone have any recommendations that won't cost an arm and a leg but will also protect the horn? -William **We found the real ‘Hotel California’ and the ‘Seinfeld’ diner. What will you find? Explore WhereItsAt.com. (http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/all-spots/355/47.796964/-66.374711/2/Youve-Found-Where-Its-At?ncid=eml cntnew0007) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ( http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] How Horn Parts Are Written Today
Most self respecting classically trained composers forego key signatures for horn players period - the wisdom of this has been proven for time immemorial. c >>> Steve Freides 5/7/2009 8:47 AM >>> I know that traditionally horn parts are written with no key signature and the horn player transposes, e.g., for a piece in Concert D, the part would be written for Horn in D and the player would down a minor third (or however else one chooses to do this). Do modern composers sometimes score for horns as they do for other instruments, e.g., they'd write a piece for Horn in D with the key signature of 3 sharps so that the player could read the "normal" Horn in F way and get the right notes to come out? I'm curious as to which way a currently working classical composer might choose to do this - I suspect the answer is "both" or "it depends on the composer" but I'd like to have some idea of, today, how prevalent one way or the other is. The reason I ask is that the person who last night asked about Wagner Tubas is a composition major, and I figure I might also explain how to write for French Horn. Thank very much in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ( http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Konzertstuck for Four Horns--Illinois concert
Great Program!! It's nice to see community bands performing such great lit. Best wishes for a terrific concert. Chris >>> 03/22/09 12:04 AM >>> The Mount Prospect Community Band proudly presents its 2009 Spring Concert, “The Triumph of the Horns”. Featured at this concert will be the Konzertstuck for Four Horns by Robert Schumann, performed by professional horn players Roger Whitworth, Dan Fackler, Kelly Langerberg and Beth Mazur-Johnson. It promises to be a sparking performance of a concert piece that no serious horn player will want to miss Other pieces on the concert will include Four Scottish Dances by Malcolm Arnold, Der Vogelhandler by Carl Zeller, Variations on America by Charles Ives, and Celebration Overture by Paul Creston. The concert will be held at 2:00 p.m. on Sunday, March 29, 2009 at Forest View Education Center 2121 South Goebbert Road Arlington Heights, Illinois Tickets are $7.00 in advance by calling 847-718-7702, or $9.00 at the door. For more information, contact the Mt. Prospect Park District at 847-640-1000. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Leadpipe Question
Dear Walt, I would really appreciate your recommendation regarding 103 lead pipes. I have a super 103 that I purchased from Mr. Stagliano in the early 70s. It has an amazing high register (no surprise there) but the original pipe was damaged and I have never been able to find an adequate replacement. thanks so your thoughts, Chris Wilhjelm >>> 3/5/2009 12:07 PM >>> It very well could be the pipe. I won't ask who made your replacement pipe for you, but I would think a custom would work well since a Kruspe is so similar to an 8D. A couple of years ago I was looking for a replacement pipe for my Alex 103, I consulted with Paul Navarro at an IHS Symposium, as soon as Paul learned the pipe was for an Alex, he told me to get another Alex pipe. It was good advice, my Alex plays great with the replacement Alex pipe. Good luck with your pipe. Walt Lewis --Original Message-- From: William Gross Sender: horn-bounces+lewhorn9=yahoo@music.memphis.edu To: The Horn List ReplyTo: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Leadpipe Question Sent: Mar 5, 2009 10:08 AM I'm experimenting with a new leadpipe for a Horner Model Kruspe. I attached it last night and found that there was one note, high A Flat, that I just couldn't get to respond. I am doing this via mail order, so I can't take the horn into the gentleman doing the work. Is it possible that the physics of the match of the new leadpipe and the horn prevent that note from sounding? Is it memorex or is it me? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com ( http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lewhorn9%40yahoo.com ) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] The recent discussion of the U.S. Marine Band
Thank you Gabriel, I appreciate very much the fact that you have taken the time to reply so thoroughly. As an outsider, but an avid "band" person, I can voice objectively that the Marine Band is one of, if not the, finest wind band in the world. I have heard the band play on many occasions and heard the band play music of the highest levels of difficulty in a manner that our finest orchestras would have difficulty attaining (they don't or can't take the time to rehearse properly). I remember well a stunning performance of Joseph Schwantner's percussion concerto a few years back at the Midwest Band and Orchestra Clinic in Chicago (isn't that the concert where your plane was cancelled twice barely getting the band out there in time!!??). This was coupled with a band arrangement of La Valse which was played incredibly well. Your suggestion about visiting the website is an important one. A few minutes on this website will begin to tell the tale of the scope of band's activities. Absolutely remarkable. Those of us on the outside of the military band world must realize the extremely challenging task that the directors of these bands experience when it comes to programming. Their concerts are attended not only by music aficionados, but by Joe and Sue Everyperson, often proudly attending in their service jackets. My respect for women and men of this great band has no bounds. In a county which gives so little funding and recognition to the arts, we are especially fortunate that our service bands are working so hard to maintain great artistic integrity while maintaining their central calling as a public arm of the military. This band continues to be a great national treasure. Best Chris >>> Gabriel Gitman 2/25/2009 4:09 PM >>> Hello, fellow horn players. A few days ago I perused the archives of the horn list and read through the numerous messages regarding "The President's Own" United States Marine Band and the Marine Chamber Orchestra. As a member of the Band, I would like to correct some of the factual errors and answer some of the questions which arose. 1. "The President's Own is not considered part of the regular Marine Corps. Officially it is a component of the Marine Corps Reserve but for paper pusher purposes only." Members of the Band are in fact members of the U.S. Marine Corps. We are not in the Marine Corps Reserve. 2. "My understanding from talking to the few "Devil Dogs" that are in the President's Own is that you can keep the crossed rifles if you are a Staff Sergeant and above until you are promoted, then you revert to a music lyre." All members of the band (MOS 5511) wear the chevrons with lyres. 3. Regarding the Gigapan photo of the inauguration: "There are horns on the near side next to the tubas, and there are horns on the opposite side next to the trombones. What sort of arrangement is that, and who plays what?" "I'm curious about the three people to the left (as viewed) of the horns, who have no instruments. Surely it doesn't take three to operate a fire extinguisher. I am the horn player next to the Marines in question. They are the two Assistant Directors of the band and two librarians. The Directors are there because, in all likelihood, they will one day lead the band at an inauguration. They must observe the event, as inaugurations are high profile and only occur every four years. It is true the horns were split into two sections on opposite sides of the band. Some other sections were divided as well. Over the years, Directors of the band concluded this was the best arrangement of the musicians given the limitations of the space. 4. "Don't expect them to play Bartók, Stravinsky or any of the More Modern Classical Composers' music for you." The band plays a great deal of modern music, more than any ensemble with which I've worked. Anyone familiar with the repertoire for concert band might assume this. The Marine Chamber Orchestra does fewer public coskim of concert programs from the past couple years demonstrates performances of music by James Cohn, Miklos Rozsa, Ernest Bloch, Aulis Sallinen, John Beall, and Lukas Foss. Anyone may check the band website at www.marineband.usmc.mil to see concert programs. 5. "They have a Pool of about 120 security-checked string, wind, percussion, harp, and keyboard players, so that they can accommodate any classical symphonic work. (I was told that they play a number of works for Baroque Orchestra, using Chamber String Players and Harpsichord.) For works requiring a much larger orchestra, they have an Extended Pool of security-checked musicians." "The President’s Own” consists of about 120 wind, brass, percussion, string, and combo players and about 30 full-time support staff. This pool of musicians is necessary to accommodate the more than 800 performances that take place annually (500 public, 300 White House). We only perform works for which we have the personnel. 6. "Whereas THEY have Admitted to being I
Re: [Hornlist] Puppenfee on the Net - oops, make that ROSENfee
not to worry my friend, just a slight Freudian sleep c >>> 02/03/09 1:14 PM >>> I must have had Josef Bayer on the brain for some reason. In a former job, Bayer's ballet, which translates as something like "Puppet Fairy", was the source of much amusement for no better reason than we just liked the way it sounded when we said it. Apparently it takes more than a couple of decades of dissipation and horn playing (or it this an reverse oxymoron?) to loosen up the synapses and get rid of certain" idees fixe". Better stop now, Peter Hirsch ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Flugelhorn vs Trumpet
Jerry, I have had some success using trumpet and flugelhorn mouthpieces with interior dimensions similar to my horn mouthpiece - my interior cup is not unlike that designed by Pottag and Farkas. Perhaps the most important dimension to match is the interior diameter of the rim. It has been my experience that the wider cushion used in trumpet/cornet/flugelhorn mouthpieces facilitates playing these instruments, reducing the pressure - or rather distributing it more widely. I occasionally perform switching from horn to trumpet (and occasionally flugelhorn) and back again. I must do so without warm-up time - so the switch has to be comfortable both ways. All of this is of course dependent on your own chop set-up. Schilke makes several mouthpieces that would fall into this category. I found an excellent mouthpiece at their both at the Midwest Clinic a few years ago. It looked at first like a cornet mouthpiece, but it had a trumpet shank. The fellow at the booth said that it was designed specifically for trumpet players with high chops that had difficulty playing in the lower register with decent tone. It felt immediately comfortable to me and I can pick it up absolutely cold and make a decent sound with it. It works well with a flugelhorn also. You may also want to consider some of the German rotary valve trumpet mouthpieces which also seem to work well for me. just another two cents Chris >>> Jerry Houston 01/19/09 11:04 AM >>> On Monday 19 January 2009 07:38:17 Steve Freides wrote: > > True flugelhorn mouthpieces are very trumpet-like, but with a smaller shank and deeper cup that mellows the sound. -snip- > > Based on what I know, I do not agree with this statement. With a > trumpet-like mpc, your flugel will sound trumpet-like, but with a > horn-like mpc - and they do make them, deep, funnel-shaped things - > your flugel will sound a lot more like a French Horn. Since I don't disagree with anything you've said, I find it hard to understand why you disagree with my statement. Perhaps it was my use of "true flugelhorn mouthpieces"? Obviously, there's a wide range of those, just as there are for trumpet and horn (and all other brass). I was talking about the kinds of mouthpieces that were packed with flugelhorns that I've bought, presumably "general purpose" flugelhorn mouthpieces. Compared with nearly any horn mouthpiece, they're indeed more trumpet-like (or cornet-like, if you prefer). That's why I went to the expense of having a new leadpipe (with a horn receiver) created for one of my flugelhorns, as I mentioned. Keep in mind that a mouthpiece that simply makes a flugelhorn "sound more like a French horn" may not make your horn embouchure very happy. As I read it, that was Kara's concern - "ways of finding a mouthpiece that is very (very!) similar to my current horn mouthpiece." ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] bass clef
Hello Ralph, I do prefer old bass clef notation, however with new music you had better indicate this somewhere on the part so folks don't wonder. The only rejoinder is that I would much rather just keeping it in the treble clef unless necessary. Strauss was great composer and wrote great horn parts, but please ... bass clef in E, when treble in F would have been just fine - well he was just showing off, or busting our chops. c >>> "Ralph R. Hall" 01/15/09 2:44 PM >>> Dear (Low) Hornists, I would like to trawl the hornlist for some opinions about bass clef preferences. As a composer/arranger and publisher (brasshausmusic.com), I would like to conduct a poll amongst low brass players to find the vox populi whether they prefer New or Old Notation in the bass clef. This poll is open until the 15th February and then the collated results will appear both on the horn list and my website - see above. Apart from the blatant self-advertisement, there is an underlying, serious purpose to this. Writing music can be very different from reading music. What is easier for composer/arranger/publisher is not necessarily the best way of presenting music to the player. As a player myself I am conscious of these things and certainly have my own opinion about the bass clef question. Once the data is disseminated (thanks to all those 2nd & 4th players who feel they have never had an individual voice before!), I shall present findings both here and on my website, courtesy of C.V. Faction, the best 2nd horn in the world! Ralph R. Hall (brasshausmusic.com) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] STOLEN HORN NYC RAUCH MODEL 1
thanks Aleks for posting this so quickly, I am going to paste Dan Wion's message below, all of the particulars should be here: Dear fellow horn players, Tonight my car was broken into in the West Village New York City and my Rauch was stolen. It is a Rauch Model 1, fixed bell in a fixed bell black cordura Marcus Bona case. The music bag is attached. The serial number on the horn is 349. I filled out a police report and will be calling pawn shops in the area. Please keep an eye out for my horn, and please circulate this to as many horn players as possible. It was stolen in NY, but a horn like this could eventually end up anywhere. Thank you for any help you can provide. Dan Wions d...@livemusicconsulting.com 908-625-0339 cell 908-359-8328 home >>> "Aleks Ozolins" 01/01/09 11:42 PM >>> My good friend has just called me and he has had his horn stolen out of his car in the West Village New York City tonight. He has asked me to write this email. It is a Rauch Model 1, fixed bell in a fixed bell black cordura Marcus Bona case. The music bag is attached I believe. The serial number on the horn is (I think) 349 or VERY CLOSE. Please, if you see anything contact Dan Wions @ 908.359,.8328 (home) or 908.625.0339 (cell) or call me @ 973.464.5242. Dan's email address is dan3598...@aol.com. Thank You, Aleks Ozolins ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Introducing Amahl
I can't resist anymore. I must share with you my absolutely true Amahl story. Many years ago, in a distant life, a number of us were hired from the New England Conservatory to perform in the orchestra for a regional production of this holiday classic. The dress rehearsal was very long and tiring and when we were released the cast was kept for hours more. The next night, we witnessed an unforgettable example of method acting. When Amahl began to sing Mother, Mother, Wake-up, we felt an increasing urgency in his voice. Apparently Mother was so exhausted, she was genuinely asleep on the stage. I wasn't even thinking much about it at first (I must have been worried about my muted low D!!) When our oboe player turned to me and said "OMG she's really asleep." It was pretty amazing to watch her pull herself together - you can't make this stuff up. c >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/30/08 2:05 PM >>> Hans P wrote about Amahl and the Night Visitors: Hello Howard, just play the low D very soft. There will not be any difference. ... At this low note & low dynamic there is no distinction in the sound. The composer either wanted it very soft or did use the con sord. markings only, because it exists (composers often use certain "markings", because they are possible. If it makes sense or not, that́s not a question for them !!!) * Ich hoffe that you attention paying are, Howard. After all, Hans hat den Long Call over zwei hundert times gespielt, einschließlich drei times in Amahl, so knows he whereof er spricht. Muss gehn, Kohl ** Life should be easier. So should your homepage. Try the NEW AOL.com. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&; ncid=emlcntaolcom0002) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Music "Dictionary" Recommendation
What happened to clamato?? c >>> "John Baumgart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 11/25/08 7:43 PM >>> It needs to have all of Grainger's terms in there, too. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kit Wolf Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 5:28 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Music "Dictionary" Recommendation > Paulatinamente, Slentando, Schulgerecht, Schmachtend, Fregiato, Fistula > Pastoralis, Capolavoro, Ghirbizzi, Gedackt, Gedent, Gedicht, Gefahrte, > Gegenbewegung etc., et al., ... all yours. All this on a little chip > smaller than the crud cake in your mouthpiece. What a world! Tempo di Twmpath? Then it's no good, Kit ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john.baumgart%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] 1965 Stravinsky Firebird - who's the horn player
Looks like Alan Civil to me as well, but perhaps my eyes are deceiving me, I thought that he played an Alex 103? Is it just the glare and my poor tired eyes? Chris >>> Tim Costen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 09/25/08 10:13 AM >>> Steve Freides wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tGA6bpscj8&feature=related > > I have wonderful memories of my father telling me this was one of his > favorite pieces of music - this is about that time, 1965 when I was 10 years > old. > > Anyone know who the horn player, beginning at 4:24 into the clip, is? Looks like Alan Civil to me. He was a member (& presumably Principal Horn) of the New Philharmonia until 1966, when he left to join the BBCSO (thanks to his obituary on hornplayer.net for that!). Tim ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cwilhjelm%40pascack.k12.nj.us ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org