Re: [Hornlist] NHR Healthcare in USA
Don't come to Europe Lawrence 2009/8/21 Bear Woodson bearwood...@cox.net Regardless of its flaws, European Heath Care might be a blessing compared to this kind of Corruption! Don't be surprised if I try to escape to Europe to be Free from this kind of Napolitano-McCain-Obama Oppression! Bear Woodson, Composer Home: 520 - 881 - 2558 Bear Woodson bearwood...@cox.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Health Care
I once saw a principal oboe (amateur) quit the stage during a performance. It wasn't the conductor's fault really. We were playing some piece I can't remember but which contained a lengthy solo for the principal oboe. As the solo approached and our hero, who had played all the rehearsal I'm told, became noticeably more agitated, we heard the immortal words, I'm not playing that, I'm off and off he went leaving a whole passage of unnacompanied accompaniment. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/8/21 Anne Megenity amegen...@comcast.net Hey, I've seen that happen. It was our First chair horn who up and quit, leaving me in his place the rest of the season! -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] What I've learned in the past two days
If you're a horn player and visiting Manchester, I'll happily play duets with you if that's what you want, but I'd rather go to the pub and let you buy me a couple of pints! -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] NHR Healthcare in Europe
I would be interested to see this discussion continued on-list. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] last instrument playing
As a mirror image of the below and in contrast to the Farewell Symphony I once had the good fortune to play in the Hello Planets. This was with a rehearsal orchestra many years ago. The first session was in the morning, the second in the afternoon and between the two, like a smoked salmon and caviar sandwich (which I recommend to you) was a visit to the pub. Some of the orchestra enjoyed the pub more than others, some of them enjoyed it more than the playing and when the second session groaned to a start, only half the orchestra were there. Over the course of about twenty minutes red-faced wind players crept in from the shadows (yes, they were all wind players) and said their hellos until, under the stern baton of a mirthless conductor, the planets continued their now erratic course across something less than heaven. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/6/30 David Parker swcompo...@austin.rr.com How about Haydn, Farewell Symphony, last movement. I remember the Austin Symphony playing this in an out doors concert at the Zilker Hillside Theater here in Austin several years ago. As each instrument finished his part they left the stage until only the Concert Master remained. I think Wayne Barrington and Stuart Hutto played the interesting and difficult Horn parts. As they left I had the distinct impression that they were on the way to a local pub to quench their thirst. David Parker adj. Assiss. Prof of Music Austin Community College ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] RE: Brass safety
Sorry Cabbage, you didn't pick up on the flaw I spotted and which I expected to receive your attention - When the inspectors left, was it they who were put into the cupboards? This clearly explains why none of the cupboards suffered the ill effects of lead poisoning. Gotta go, Cabbage ** Shop Popular Dell Laptops now starting at $349! ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222031056x1201446063/aol?redir=http:%2F%2 Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215910283%3B38350812%3Ba) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Brass safety
My dad worked in factory governed by similar health and safety regulations - the had to wear face-masks and special clothing. On the days the inspectors came the masks and clothes were taken out of the cupboard and the workers put them on. As soon as the inspectors left, they were all put back in the cupboard until next time. In the US, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) has extensive and comprehensive rules regarding workplace safety and materials handling. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] bumping section mates
Whenever this happens, try to keep your cool - don't resort to bad language or angry comments, just turn round and smack him in the mouth. He may learn to be more careful next time. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] bumping section mates
Hi Martin, Yes, I was joking, but as Dave said, Hitting a horn, or a wind player while the instrument is on the chops, is a serious, serious thing. - you can't do it and people who do have be taught in the strongest possible terms that it's not acceptable, you've got to be more careful. And don't forget, if you smack him in the mouth hard enough, there's a good chance that you won't see him again anyway! Cheers, Lawrence 2009/6/1 Martin Bender em...@magma.ca Hello Lawrence, I concur with your approach with the following small modification: Smack him in the mouth-- twice. Once for payback, the second time for education. Shouldn't be a problem after that. Sincerely, martin bender On 1-Jun-09, at 8:23 AM, Lawrence Yates wrote: Whenever this happens, try to keep your cool - don't resort to bad language or angry comments, just turn round and smack him in the mouth. He may learn to be more careful next time. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/embee%40magma.ca ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 78, Issue 1
What are these marine things you keep going on about? (I know about our Royal Marines here in England - they have red hats) Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: bumping section mates
Why would you need to be able to see the conductor? Cheers, Lawrence 2009/6/1 wells123...@juno.com wells123...@juno.com Build a cement bunker around your seat. No time or budget for cement contruction? Then, stack sand bags 6 feet tall around your seat. Need to see the conductor? Get a video camera and monitor. No budget for video equipment? Not a problem, use a inexpensive periscope mounted to your music stand. Valerie Wells -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: aging hornists
I can see this turning into a conspiracy! Lawrence (not long in from playing horn quartets with his students - supposed to be on holiday and so didn't feel guilty at having a really good time!) -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] aging hornists
I'm an aging horn player and I feel very under-appreciated. I often feel that no-one appreciates me at all. I would love to hear from anyone who feels sorry for me - please make cheques payable to Lawrence Yates, Thank you, -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: trios for three horns
Aren't these the horn duets that actually are written for horns? Cheers, Lawrence 2009/5/21 Steven Mumford mumfordhornwo...@att.net For some really beautiful, fun and challenging trios, check out Mozart's trios for basset horns. Not exactly originals for horn but at least they're in F. There are several of them and they're all first rate musically. The 1st part goes up to high Cs and hangs above the staff quite a bit. The middle part is more moderate but still challenging and fun to play. The low part inhabits the bass clef and has all kinds of wicked cool licks. They'd be suitable for some very accomplished college students. To me, they sound a heckuva lot cooler on french horn than on basset horn but I'm biased. There's a recording out there of Chicago Symphony people playing them on basset horns. I wonder if the Telemann trios for two flutes would work on horn? - Steve Mumford ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Mendelssohn Nocturne
I've never had to play this for the ballet, but I'm told that in context you have to play it all twice - once as a prelude and then immediately afterwards, again for the dance. I rarely work with dancers - I think the well known quote about children and animals applies here too. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New Amsterdam Brass Band and the Tenor Horn
That's true, especially for the larger instruments Besson Sovereigns are very highly respected. The Denis Wick mouthpieces are very popular - they are deep but I would not consider the rims to be sharp like a knife at all. The Denis Wick 4 cornet mouthpiece has saved many a failing young player from falling into the rubbish bin. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/5/5 Robson Adabo de Mello robson.ad...@gmail.com I’m not British, but I believe the top brands for a British Brass Band are: Besson, Yamaha and Courtois. At least for cornet these brands represent the pinnacle. Robson P.S. Curiosity: Almost everybody uses Denis Wick mouthpieces on a Brass Band. They are deep and the rim is narrow and sharp like knife! -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New Amsterdam Brass Band and the Tenor Horn
Hi Robson, Maybe it's a national thing, certainly I've never come across that view of the Wick mouthpiece (which is not to say that that view doesn't exist). I tend to equate them with Bach mouthpieces. As a standard catch-all mouthpiece for young cornet players we normally recommend a Wick 3 or 4, for trumpets, a Bach 7C. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] New Amsterdam Brass Band and the Tenor Horn
For the pedants amongst us, I am using the term french horn to clarify exactly which horn I am talking about. As a rule, in England French horn players do not play in brass bands. The tenor horn is a completely different instrument, it has a different mouthpiece, a different bore, a different length and is the tenor version of the saxhorn. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the french horn, it is only slightly more related to us than is the English horn. Generally speaking there are tenor horn players and french horn players - they are rarely the same person, although many horn players started off on the tenor when they were at school (myself included but I grew up). I know that there are some players who play both, but they seem to be rare. Tenor horns do not exist in any key other than Eb and they never have more than three valves. The baritone is the baritone version of the saxhorn - it fills in the baritone line in the band and rarely has solos. It is usually used in the middle of its register. The euphonium on the other hand generally plays in the upper part of its register and often carries the melody and has frequent solos. In the hands of a master it can be a wonderfully expressive instrument. I have never heard an expressive baritone. The sound of the two instruments is quite different. The fourth valve on a euphonium adds enough tubing to extend the range down by a fourth and is usually used for this purpose, and to offer a choice of fingerings for those notes which would normally involve all three of the main valves. It is not used as an alternative side to the instrument as it is on a french horn. Cornets have a mellower sound than trumpets and are always used in brass bands, usually with a vibrato. The trumpet sound would be rather too bright. There are often solos in 19th century operas which call for cornet and rarely sound right when played on trumpet. Bands often strive to have a full set of cornets all of the same make and model, something often achieved when the band is sponsored, as many of them were in more affluent times. The British brass band is capable of wonderfully expressive playing and there are those who achieve phenomenally high standards both technically and musically. Unfortunately there are very many more whose performances will make your flesh creep and turn your milk sour. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/5/4 Steve Freides steve.frei...@gmail.com Folks, I want to tell you about a fantastic brass band concert I heard last night, and also ask a few questions. The group was the New Amersterdam Brass Band - their web site isn't much, and at the moment the home page shows the info for last night's concert: http://www.newamsterdambb.com To give any of you metro-NYC players an idea of the caliber of the group, Jason Ham sat second on the euphonium and Aaron Vanderweele sat first - I think Aaron's solo playing was the best I have ever heard on the euphonium. The featured soloist was trumpeter Allan Vizzutti, and he did not disappoint. The sound, the feel of listening to this group is something I'm actually having a hard time putting into words, but it was just fantastic. Of great interest to me was the instrumental makeup of the band, so I ask your indulgence, since I am still relatively new to the world of brass instruments, in answering a few questions. 1) Why were there only cornets and not trumpets? The cornets all had the funny bend the tubing that I know is part of traditional cornet design although I also know that not all cornets are now made that way. 2) There were both euphoniums and baritones. The group totalled about 30 players, and had the above-mentioned two euphonium players plus two baritones (played by Emilee Bennett and Barry Morrison, neither name familiar to me). I found this article on the difference between the two instruments: http://www.dwerden.com/eu-articles-bareuph.cfm - and that seems to cover the issue pretty well, but I would appreciate knowing one more thing - does someone who really knows the difference between these two instruments write differently for them? Im guessing, based on what I've read, that a baritone might play slightly higher and/or lighter parts. Is the 4th valve something like the thumb trigger of a double French Horn? (And, if so, what pitch does it take the instrument up or down into?) 3) There were no French Horns, but something called a Tenor Horn which seemed, more or less, to play in French Horn register. A bit more online research and I learn that this is also known as an Alto horn - I have been given Alto horn parts to play, especially marches when playing in a band. Is this the instrument a French Horn player would play in such a band? I imagine it's a bit of a transition to make, as it's fingered right-handed. The alto/tenor horn appears to be an Eb instrument - do they make these in F, too? And do they make 4-valve models? Thanks much in
Re: [Hornlist] Horn Transposition:
Rhinegold One of my (many) evenings of shame came in that opera when I was playing 56th horn or something. I only had one solo-like passage and it was at the top of the page after a turnover. I counted carefully, turned over the page and couldn't for the life of me remember what key I was supposed to in. It was too late to turn back, so I raised the horn to my lips, waggled a couple of valves and played nothing at all, lowering my instrument at the end of the solo. The conductor didn't notice that I hadn't played. The rest of the section did. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Horn Transposition:
Come on Martin, don't push the shame even further - got both - didn't use them! Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/28 Martin Bender em...@magma.ca Hello Lawrence, Note to self: Paxman horn pencil clip: $1.36 Pencil: $0.99 Knowing what key you're in after you turn the page: Priceless ;-) Regards, martin bender Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Ifor James playing Neruda
Hi Ralph, Yes - that sounds like sense. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/28 Ralph Hall ra...@brasshausmusic.com Lawrence, I don't think I implied that cornet then horn playing are universally linked. I was not making a general point, but I do think in Ifor's case the link is significant. Here are two reasons: firstly, the occasional, detectable vibrato in Ifor's playing I'm sure has its antecedents in his cornet grounding. Secondly, when John Bimson (one of the earliest of Ifor's British pupils to achieve great success) came to the Royal Manchester College of Music, his astounding technique and stamina he attributed to Ifor's insistence on his playing all the way through Arban on the horn. Ralph R. Hall (brasshausmusic.com) Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda
Thanks John. By the way - are you still running the Horn Exchange? I used to get lists from you every year but I don't remember having anything for a while. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/28 John.N Ward john_n_w...@hotmail.com Lawrence from my time at Paxmans during that period I'm sure that is what happened Cheers John Ward Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 09:49:48 +0100 Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda From: yateslawre...@googlemail.com To: hans.pi...@t-online.de; horn@music.memphis.edu CC: I heard a story about the recording of the Zelenka - WARNING: I have absolutely no evidence to support or substantiate thIs story and I offer it as an amusing anecdote which may or may not be as true as any other amusing anecdote doing the rounds. I cannot even remember who told me this. Anyway, the story was that Mr. Tuckwell took the high horn on approval from Paxmans with a view to buying it, recorded the Zelenka, possibly the only piece in the world for which he might need such an instrument, then took it back. Maybe someone from Paxmans or anyone closer to the events could substantiate or repudiate this? Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/john_n_ward%40hotmail.com _ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Ifor James playing Neruda
Whilst it's true that he started out as a cornet player I'm not sure that the two things are inextricably linked - there are players with similar facility in the high register and a great deal of technical ability who were not cornet players and there are a great many ex cornet players who do not achieve the standards Ifor achieved. I'm sure that what he learnt as a cornet player will have helped him but I suspect that his facility in the high tessitura and his technical ability stemmed from bl**dy hard work. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/27 Ralph Hall ra...@brasshausmusic.com Hornlisters, One of the reasons for Ifor's facility in the high tessitura is because he started out as a cornet player in British brass bands. It is also a reason for his technical ability. -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Ifor James playing Neruda
I heard a story about the recording of the Zelenka - WARNING: I have absolutely no evidence to support or substantiate thIs story and I offer it as an amusing anecdote which may or may not be as true as any other amusing anecdote doing the rounds. I cannot even remember who told me this. Anyway, the story was that Mr. Tuckwell took the high horn on approval from Paxmans with a view to buying it, recorded the Zelenka, possibly the only piece in the world for which he might need such an instrument, then took it back. Maybe someone from Paxmans or anyone closer to the events could substantiate or repudiate this? Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Doubt about transposing
Hear hear! And this applies to lots of other things in horn playing too. (and in things beyond horn playing too) Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/23 Kit Wolf c.j.l.w...@newcastle.ac.uk In my view, there's nothing wrong with using tricks to help you transpose, so long as the right notes come out. -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Success Carl! (You haven't changed continent just to send us a message have you?) I faced a similar question a few years ago when a conductor insisted on the horn parts in the Mozart 13 Wind being played as Bb alto rather than the customary basso. It certainly changed the character of the piece and introduced a hitherto missing element of excitement. I've mentioned this before and seem to remember an interesting post from Hans on the subject. He is probably the person to offer an opinion on the Beethoven question. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Ah yes, an old one! I used to play for a folk group - one of their songs had the immortal line: Oh the Queen she has ordered troops for the continent which always brought the resonating cry from the audience - What has she ordered for the incontinent. Another of their songs on the subject of a maiden who rescued her lover from the press gang, had the line Out from her bosom she pulled his discharge which invariably elicited from the audience a resounding, Ugh!!! Ah... happy days. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Many times I'm afraid. (And I still think Beethoven 4 is basso) -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed
No, it's performed fairly regularly in England (and maybe the rest of Britain too) nowadays - I've played it about a dozen times. Thirty years ago it was rare but not any more. Even period performances are, although still quite an event, are becoming less rare. Cheers, Lawrence Quote: I believe the original interpretation of Rare horn piece to be performed in this context, refers to the infrequent performance of this piece within the United Kingdom; and yes, an added bonus is that it is to be performed on period instruments by credible musician's. -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Has anybody actually answered this poor guy's question? It's basso. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed
I worked for Bury Instrumental Teaching Service which emblazoned its notepaper with the relevant acronym. A neighbouring instrumental teaching service in Thameside changed their name. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] abbreviations (was: Rare horn piece...)
Yes, I'm afraid we use abbreviations in the UK too. I was recently sent to a conference to deputise for a colleague who was indisposed. For the first twenty minutes or more I hadn't a clue what the speaker was talking about because he spoke in abbreviations and acronyms. (He assured me that my CEF was my CEP and that I could send it to my MSIP if I liked, but it wasn't really necessary - this was just one of the cargoes he wanted to sail by me). I'm afraid I have little patience with people who talk like this. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Is ba...@fenwickparva a real person in difficulties or someone trying to infect us with some kind of virus? yours concerned, Lawrence 2009/4/18 ba...@fenwickparva.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?
Looks like someone having problems - I seem to remember Hans having similar problems when he was out of his home country. Is it Carl Bangs trying to post? Hope the problem disappears soon. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/18 ba...@fenwickparva.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed
I think it's rare because, if I remember correctly, the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment use period instruments. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rare horn piece to be performed
Yes, but not five valved triple horns with top c extension and bar. Period instruments - There have been several periods in music (I've lived through a couple of them!) During the romantic period they tended to use single horns with piston valves and generally F or Eb crooks The Orch of Age of En (they must get a shorter name than that) use instruments of the period of whatever music they are playing. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/17 Jeremy Cucco jer...@sublymerecords.com Maybe I'm obtuse...or worse, dumb. But wasn't it written for valved instruments?? Lawrence Yates wrote: I think it's rare because, if I remember correctly, the Orchestra of the Age of Enlightenment use period instruments. Cheers, Lawrence ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] TinyURL (WAS: update to recordings)
Steve Freides wrote: This way everyone knows what they're getting into, and they can always use the full link, by cutting and pasting if they need. Errmmm. Take a look at the evidence here: http://lawrenceyates.co.uk http://tinyurl.com/23xpfu Cheers, :-) Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Paul Mansur
I didn't see any announcement on this list. I was sorry to hear of his passing. Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: tuning meter recommendations
I have the Korg AT-2 which, which, when it is working, is adequate for my needs, and, because of the lower response time, better than the much more expensive Korg I have (whose model number escapes me but which produces tones as well as metering played sounds). Unfortunately, it's usefulness is very much diminished because the batteries are always flat from the damn thing being switched on accidentally - an amazingly bad design. (This is true of both tuners.) I have now made a leather pocket for it which covers the switch to try to remedy this and so far this has succeeded. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/4/7 Simon Varnam simonvar...@gmail.com On 2009/04/07, at 2:00, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu wrote: At 3:04 PM -0400 4/5/09, Donald Huang wrote: I'm rather sure that I remember reading that it turns off after 20 minutes. Yep! AUTO POWER OFF FUNCTION The power will turn off automatically, if the=20 unit is left powered-on for 20 minutes without=20 performing any operation, avoiding unnecessary=20 battery consumption. http://www.korg.com/Product.aspx?pd=3D99 ..unlike their AT-1 (needle version), which can easily get switched on when it's in your bag. The batteries are the expensive 9v type and can run down overnight, especially if the light gets switched on too. It can also start emitting a tuning tone from the bottom of your bag, which can be altered in pitch, but rarely stopped, by deliberate or accidental prodding. Highly embarrassing. Not recommended. Simon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] J.D. Shaw: horn and trumpet player
I once did a gig with a fairly well known horn player in the north of England. We were playing Strauss's Don Quixote The weekend before he had played first horn in Brandenburg 1. The following weekend he was playing trumpet in Brandenburg 2. In Don Quixote he was playing euphonium. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Asleep at the Horn
mates? 2009/3/29 Leslie lesliemantr...@optonline.net The guy obviously has a drinking problem. By the reaction of his section mates, it probably is an ongoing issue. I feel sorry for everyone. Leslie ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Ice horn - pipe bending
Sorry Kit, what's your job? Do they have any vacancies? :-) Cheers, Lawrence 2009/3/26 Kit Wolf c.j.l.w...@newcastle.ac.uk A new alternative: toffee. I've been meaning to try it for a while, but only got round to experimenting this evening making a crook for a baroque trumpet. It works well. Kit -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Ice horn - pipe bending
Hi Kit, Right, I've obviously missed something here and completely and utterly misunderstood what you were saying - the last bit of this thread I looked at was about making horns from ice - I therefore thought you were advocating making them from toffee (and that you were currently working on making a trumpet crook from toffee), hence my comment. Maybe I should seek medical help. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Alexander 103
Sorry for the delayed reply. I have posted a photograph of the valve levers here: http://tinyurl.com/c5xszb Cheers, Lawrence* * 2009/3/10 Robert Osmun ros...@osmun.com Cool! In what way are they strange? Bob Osmun Lawrence Yates wrote: My Alex 103 has strange springs on the valve levers, something I have not seen on any other instrument. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rosmun%40osmun.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Alexander 103
Hi Bob, Thanks for the offer of spares - I've often wondered where I might find replacents if any of them should go - I've never seen another horn that uses them! It seems to work very well, but I'm not sure whether it's considerably better than valves without them. Presumably Alexander didn't think it worth the expense of continuing the design. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/3/15 Robert Osmun ros...@osmun.com I think Alexander used this setup for about three weeks some time in the eighties. The springs are designed to compensate for any mis-alignment of the lever hinge rods so as to keep the levers in proper alignment and at the proper distance from the stop arms. (I've got some spares, if you ever need any.) Thanks for the pics. Bob Osmun Lawrence Yates wrote: Sorry for the delayed reply. I have posted a photograph of the valve levers here: http://tinyurl.com/c5xszb Cheers, Lawrence* * Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Alexander 103
2009/3/15 Debbie Schmidt jason...@aol.com Bob looks intersting why did it not work? Actually that is an assumption but I assume there were issues if they stopped using them? Debbie Schmidt Sent from my iPhone Hi Debbie, As I said above, it does work (or at least it works on mine) - I've had this horn for a long long time (I bought it new) and have had absolutely no problems with it (other than those stemming from my own deficiencies). I presume it was a cost issue. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Alexander 10
Hi, Sorry, no, it was made mid 80's (to replace the Alex 103 I did buy in the early 70's) Cheers, Lawrence 2009/3/15 lewho...@yahoo.com Lawrence, I am wondering, was your Alex 103 made in the early 70's? That is when my fixed bell 103 was made, and the springs look close to what I've got. Just curious, Walt Lewis - -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Telemann Concerto for 3 horns
Thanks, we've now traced a set and are looking into getting our hands on it. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha Alexander 103
My Alex 103 has strange springs on the valve levers, something I have not seen on any other instrument. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Leadpipe Question
Hi Folks, Does anyone know where I might get hold of the horn and orchestral parts to the Telemann Concerto for 3 horns? (I'm in England) Thanks, Lawrence. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Telemann Concerto for 3 horns
Sorry, I forgot to change the subject line. A friend of mine is looking for the horn and orchestral parts to the Telemann Concerto for three horns. Does anyone have any idea where he could find them (we are in the UK). Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Re: Elkhart 8D
Kit Wolf wrote; Take some dents out. Accidentally put a hole in it then learn about annealing. Patch it. Desolder and resolder some joints. An old friend of mine was a violin repairer. He told me that when he started at college the first task was to make a violin. When it was finished he proudly took it to the master who congratulated him, then threw it the length of the room and said, now go and mend it. Each time the instrument was restored, the master would damage it in some way and this was the instrument he used throughout his initial training. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: Wagner tuba and John Ericson [was: Fwd: AW: AW: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 74, Issue 17]
Sorry, my mistake, I withdraw my last posting (quoted below) 2009/2/13 Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@googlemail.com errrmmm ..I don't think Hans was referring to Dr. Erickson - he was contrasting the article by someone with zero experience with Dr. Erickson's article Cheers, lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Hi Bill, I'm sure I'm being thick or maybe it's just another example of the language barrier, but I didn't understand your last post. What are emergency alters? Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] re: Pizka and Hypochondriacs
Alerts!! of course - isn't it obvious once someone says it? Sorry, me being thick. Sorry, Lawrence 2009/2/6 William Gross william.s.gr...@gmail.com typo from trying to get something done before I head out the door and not using my glasses, then getting an emergency call from the Spousal Overunit I can't find my coffee cup. It was meant to be emergency alerts. Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
You're right, they're a pain. The easiest way is to tie a rope around the main tube of your horn and tie the other end around your waist then drag the horn along the floor behind you, it's much easier! :-) Cheers, Lawrence (whose Alex 103 survived 12 months undamaged in a gig bag then didn't.) 2009/2/1 valkh...@aol.com The only problem is hard cases are a pain in the butt and not many of them can be worn as a backpack - making carrying them quite uncomfortable for me. -William **Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. ( http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co ntent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals#63;c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d hs%26#126;ck=anavmlhttp://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/10075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://www.dell.com/co%0Antent/products/features.aspx/laptops_great_deals#63;c=us%26cs=19%26l=en%26s=d%0Ahs%26#126;ck=anavml ) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/yateslawrence%40googlemail.com -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
Go busking, go work in a bar, cry to your parents, anything, but raise enough money to buy a proper hard gig bag type case - (I use a Marcus Bonna case now). It will work out cheaper than the repairs you will almost certainly have to finance later. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/2/1 valkh...@aol.com As soon as they make a hard case that's easy to carry over long walking distances and that's as light as a gig back I'll buy one. Until then it's a 'dent bag' for me. Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
PS - I was super-careful with my horn during the year it lived in a gig bag - the damage wasn't caused by me. 2009/2/1 Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@googlemail.com Go busking, go work in a bar, cry to your parents, anything, but raise enough money to buy a proper hard gig bag type case - (I use a Marcus Bonna case now). It will work out cheaper than the repairs you will almost certainly have to finance later. Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
Yes, I assumed you were younger (but 27 is still very young to a codger like me!) If money is not problem, what's your objection to a hard gig bag type case? Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
Yes, so what's your objection to it? (Sorry, reading through my posts to you they sound very confrontational - they're not meant to - I'm just curious) Cheers, Lawrence Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
Hi, No, I thnk we're talking at cross purposes. When someone says gig bag I think of the soft fabric BAG. I think of the Marcus Bonna as a gig bag type CASE - it's hard, it protects the instrument, it's light and it's portable. The gig BAG is light and portable but it doesn't protect. If even the Marcus Bonna case is too heavy (I've regularly walked 5 or 6 miles with mine) then maybe a bag is the only answer. Cheers, Lawrence 2009/2/1 Jeremy Cucco jer...@sublymerecords.com Lawrence - Maybe I'm missing something, but I believe he's made his objection quite clear numerous times in every e-mail he's sent. Weight and form factor are the objections. Frankly, if I had a fixed bell horn, I would object to hard cases for the same reasons. However, I've used some gig bags in the past on my detachable bell horns and have almost always had bad luck regarding dents. The one notable exception is the Reunion Blues leather gig bag, which, in my opinion, offers better protection than many fixed bell cases. Cheers- Jeremy Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
Sorry, my misunderstanding (played first in Walton Symphony 1 last night - it did my head in and I've still not recovered) Can I go and have a drink now? Cheers, Lawrence 2009/2/1 valkh...@aol.com Gotcha. I agree - I did have a soft fabric type case a long time ago but I got rid of it. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
One of the lads in a section I occasionally play for has a music stand with an attachment to hold his beer. Are you there Malc? Cheers, Lawrence 2009/2/1 jerryol...@aol.com 3) Integral beer cooler. -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Dent bags
2009/2/1 John Baumgart john.baumg...@comcast.net What kind of valve oil should I use with different brands of gig bags or hard cases? I find Superfix valve oil works best with all types of gig bag - it sticks the valves solid and makes them unable to move no matter how hard the case is dropped. Cheers, Lawrence -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
