Re: [Hornlist] Strauss 2 and En Foret; and a complaint
Hi all, There is a misprint in En Foret, I believe, in the 5th bar of reh. 17 on the second beat. That note should be a written Bb, sounding Eb. Hope your summers are all good. Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net On Aug 9, 2009, at 8:29 AM, Bill Tyler wrote: Hi, Chris, Yes, in the B & H edition, there are a few misprints. The note you ask about is played a concert F in the two recordings I have (Barry Tuckwell, 1990, and Peter Damm). In the CD liner notes of the Tuckwell recording, he slams B&H and their errors in the score, regarding notes, phrasings, dynamics and tempos (tempi?). I can't comment on En Foret ... somehow, I made it all the way through grad school without ever seeing the piece. A pet peeve of mine ... I have the BBC issued CD of Dennis Brain playing Beethoven Sextet Op. 81b, Auf dem Strom and Haydn 1, among other things. Amongst the liner notes are some photos of DB with other musicians ... who shall remain nameless, because there are no captions. Thanks, BBC. Supplying few names would be nice. Maybe some of the UK groupies could help. There. Now I feel better. Bill --- On Sun, 8/9/09, christopher Griffin wrote: From: christopher Griffin Subject: [Hornlist] Strauss 2 and En Foret To: "hornmailing list" Date: Sunday, August 9, 2009, 9:03 AM Hi guys! This might be opening a can of worms but does anyone know of any misprints in Strauss 2 (Boosey & Hawkes) and the Bozza En Foret (Alphonse Leduc)? I especially wanted to know about the last eighth note of the bar before 36 in the last movement of the Strauss. I'm sure it must go back to an F concert but it is printed as an F-sharp concert in both the score and the horn part. The F-sharp works in a weird kind of way. I'm also wondering what people think about going down to a low A in the second "horn call" near the end of the Bozza. It is printed as the A just below middle C. Some go down to the low A. I'm curious why, in such a tour de force, that Bozza would have written the low A anyway. Thanks in advance! C Griffin ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Recording
Have a look here: http://www.transom.org/tools/recording_interviewing/200703_recorder_reviews/ Lots of reviews and examples. B ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net On Jul 30, 2009, at 4:40 PM, Allen Smithson wrote: Hello All,I'm currently shopping for a recording device so I can quickly listen to practice sessions, lessons, auditions, and so on. I've been reading some reviews on digital recording devices but I'm worried that these devices will work great for voice recording and horribly for recording a horn. What do you all use/like? Any help would greatly appreciated.Thanks,Allen ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] pre 1957 horn texts
Not too easy to find, but it's very worthwhile. B On Jul 13, 2009, at 9:41 AM, sot...@cybermesa.com wrote: Birchard Coar's "A Critical Study of Nineteenth Century Horn Virtuosi in France" is from 1952. Steve Ovitsky Leonard wrote: Seems like most of the books I have seen about the horn (Morley~Pegge, Robin Gregory,etc) came out after 1957. This may be due to Dennis Brain's life. I know there are others out there. can you suggest some horn books, not methods, from pre 1957? LLB ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] two recommendations
Hi again all, Hope you enjoyed the solo beginnings thread. Now, I have two things to recommend to everyone. The first is a book, written by David McGill, principal bassoon of the Chicago Symphony. It's called "Sound in Motion - A Performer's Guide to Greater Musical Expression". Someone on one of the lists mentioned it obliquely and I recently finished reading it. McGill writes eloquently and deeply about all facets of music making and how we can increase our knowledge of the music and use that knowledge to play more expressively and meaningfully. Much of it has to do with Marcel Tabuteau and his influence on phrasing and expression - very interesting and challenging book, and I highly recommend it. The second is to note how useful using a flash recorder is in one's personal practice. I recommend every student of mine get one, and I thought I would pass on this page: http://www.transom.org/tools/recording_interviewing/200703_recorder_reviews/ ...which has a comparison of various units for you to look at. Take care everyone, and enjoy your summers! Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far
Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! On Jun 29, 2009, at 10:12 AM, Debbie Schmidt wrote: Bernstein: On the Waterfront (great solo) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] solo beginnings - the list so far
Hi all, Hope you have enjoyed this little exercise - here is the list so far: Beethoven Violin concerto (tympani) Rachmaninov Piano concerto #2 (solo piano) Britten Serenade (horn, duh) Rossini William Tell (cello) Moussorksky-Ravel Pictures at an Exhibition (trumpet) Sibelius Symphony #1 (tympani) Beethoven Piano Concerto #4 (piano) Beethoven Fantasy for Piano, Chorus, and Orchestra (piano) Prokofiev Violin Concerto #2 (violin) John Adams; Short Ride in a Fast Machine (wood block solo) Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun Stravinsky: Rite of Spring Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2 R. Strauss: Horn Concerto 2 R. Strauss: Burlesque Weber - Oberon Overture Concierto de Aranjuez by Joaquin Rodrigo Wagner: Rienzi Overture Rimski-Korsakov: Le Coq d'or Shostakovich: Symphony #1 Prokofiev: Lieutenant Kije Mahler: 5 Schmidt #4 Rhapsody in Blue Ravel's Tzigane Enesco First Romanian Rhapsody "Le Chasseur Maudit" (Caesar Franck) - 4th horn solo [good one!] Liszt's Orpheus Hanson Fanfare for the Signal Corps Bernstein: Facsimile Margariteña by Inocente Carreño Saint-Saens: 2nd Piano Concerto I have not included movements later in pieces that begin with a solo instrument - just entire pieces that do. BUT! There is a piece that begins with a prominent horn solo unaccompanied that has not been mentioned. The composer is well-known. B ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
Yes, every Tuesday night I pitch softball righthanded. :) B On Jun 28, 2009, at 10:02 PM, Steve Haflich wrote: Bob Ward -- Are you a RHP? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
Sibelius 1 is correct because the tympani is alone for half a bar. On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:34 PM, Robert N. Ward wrote: Sibelius #1 almost makes it except for the timpani. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
Bzzzt - there is a harp note with the flute's first note. B On Jun 28, 2009, at 8:38 PM, Jeremy Cucco wrote: The Moldau? Or is there a triangle with the flute? On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:46 PM, "Robert N. Ward" wrote: Hello all, Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test your knowledge: Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one single, solo instrument. I'll get you started: Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun Stravinsky: Rite of Spring Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2 Have at it! Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jeremy%40sublymerecords.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
Bzzt - Bzzzt - Scubert 9 begins with TWO horns, Beethoven 1 is the second violin section in the second movement. B On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:33 PM, Simon Varnam wrote: Schubert: Symphony #9 in C Too obvious? Beethoven: Symphony #1 second Mvt or doesn't 2nd violin count as solo? :-) Simon - - - - - - - - - - On 2009/06/29, at 12:39, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu wrote: Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one single, solo instrument. I'll get you started: Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun Stravinsky: Rite of Spring Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2 Have at it! Bob ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
Bzzzt...nope. Bruckner 4 starts with tremolo strings. B On Jun 28, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Ms Lisa Honeycutt wrote: Weber: Oberon. Bruckner: Symphony #4 in E-flat major From: "ew...@aol.com" To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 11:20:24 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings Enesco First Romanian Rhapsody In a message dated 6/28/2009 10:42:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jdl...@q.com writes: Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one single, solo instrument. How about: Mahler #5 Schmidt #4 Beethoven Piano Concerto #4 Rhapsody in Blue Sibelius #1 almost makes it except for the timpani. David Lamb in Seattle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/eww02%40aol.com **Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood0005) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/lilnemmie%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] OT: solo beginnings
Hello all, Now that we are moving into summer, how about a little game to test your knowledge: Name compositions for orchestra (including concerti) that begin with a one single, solo instrument. I'll get you started: Debussy: Afternoon of a Faun Stravinsky: Rite of Spring Brahms: Piano Concerto No. 2 Have at it! Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] San Francisco Symphony audition results
Hi all, The SF Symphony had auditions for Associate Principal Horn on Monday, and we qualified one person for the position: Nicole Cash, of the Dallas Symphony. Nikki will join us for a trial week soon as a continuation of the process. Nikki played a wonderfully all day, despite a process that was very long, so congratulations to her! Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] old Schmidt model horn
Hi all, Recently I had an opportunity to go back to my high school in upstate NY and visit. http://www.nisk.k12.ny.us/nhs/ Lots of changes, but good to see that music was still big, as it was went I went there. One of the things I had hoped to uncover was a unique old horn which I remembered from my time there, a C.F. Schmidt pitched in Bb/C alto. It had the traditional piston thumb valve but was almost like a descant in feel. Unfortunately, the horn, according to the chairman of the music department, was long gone. So I'm wondering whether any of you have ever seen such a horn? It played great, and it would be fun to play one again... Thanks and best wishes to all, worldwide, Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Mouthpiece comparator
I wish it had more info also, but I haven't found anything that's more descriptive than this... B On Apr 13, 2009, at 11:19 AM, Steve Freides wrote: Forgive me if I'm showing my ignorance here, but aren't there several important dimensions missing here, e.g., what's called (I think) the backbore - what I mean is the diameter of the "tube" section of the mouthpiece after the cup part. (Something tells me this tube section actually has two parts w/ two names but I'm afraid I'm at the limits of my mpc knowledge already here.) I'm playing one of Hans Pizka's mouthpieces (happily, I might add) and I'd appreciate knowing where that fits into this chart. I'm guessing it's a wide rim and a deep cup. I'm also guessing that the backbore/diameter I'm talking about above is a lot bigger than some, maybe most, other mouthpieces. My son, when he played horn, used a Yamahs 30C4 and that felt very different to play - you could feel the difference when using a mouthpiece brush - much narrower than any other horn mpc's we had/have here in the house, I think. Thanks in advance for info and corrections. Steve "merry amateur horn player" Freides On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Robert N. Ward wrote: Well, there is this chart, which while not the same, is helpful.. http://www.bestbrass.jp/en/mouthpiece/pdf/horn.pdf Bob ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Mouthpiece comparator
Well, there is this chart, which while not the same, is helpful.. http://www.bestbrass.jp/en/mouthpiece/pdf/horn.pdf Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net On Apr 13, 2009, at 10:51 AM, Robson Adabo de Mello wrote: It's a very interesting link for trumpet players: http://www.kanstul.net/mpcJN/Compare.htm Is there anything similar for horn mouthpieces? Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] SF Symphony tour
Hi all, Just wanted to let you know that we are headed out onto the road on Monday. It's a West Coast Tour that starts in Seattle and heads south. The schedule is: 1/20-21 Seattle, WA 1/22 Chico, CA 1/23 San Luis Obispo, CA 1/24 Santa Barbara, CA 1/26-27 Los Angeles, CA 1/28 Costa Mesa, CA 1/29 Palm Springs, CA For more info as well as programs (tour rep includes Brahms 1, Tschaik. 5, Berg 3 Pieces, Tilson Thomas Street Song, Prokofiev Piano Concerto No. 5, Copland "Our Town", Haydn Sym. No. 60), please take a look at: http://www.sfsymphony.org/UploadedFiles/about/press/PressReleases/West%20Coast%20Tour%20January%202009.pdf Stop by and say hi if you are so inclined. Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony rnw...@comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] (no subject)
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[Hornlist] SFSO TV broadcast
Hi Bruce, Thanks so much - this is probably as good a time as any to shamelessly plug our Carnegie Hall TV broadcast of this Bernstein Birthday concert which will be aired in most markets Oct. 29 (check your local listings, as they say...) West Side Story Symphonic Dances Highlights from "A Quiet Place" various selections from "Touble in Tahiti", "On the Town", The Mass and West Side Story Michael Tilson Thomas, conducting Thomas Hampson Dawn Upshaw Christine Ebersole Yo-Yo Ma more info here: http://www.sfsymphony.org/UploadedFiles/about/press/PressReleases/National_Tour_Sept_2008.pdf Later, Bob On Oct 10, 2008, at 3:37 PM, Bruce Clausen wrote: No horn to trade, but I thought I'd mention that I heard the SFO live for the first time a few weeks ago. The Bernstein anniversary concert. Everyone sounded great! Bruce Clausen ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] just askin'
Hi all, I was wondering if any of you out there might have a Karl Hill Schmidt- model (piston thumb valve) double horn that you might be interested in selling or possibly trading a Geyer model Hill for. Just a trial balloon... Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Le Sacre tuben parts
There is some confusion about this. This post caused me to go back and look at the score, and take another look. After doing so, it is clear to me that the parts are correctly in Bb alto. The key to determining this is looking at five and four bars before the end of the First Part. If the Wagner Tubas play in Bb Basso, they are then in unison with the Bass Tuba, which is clearly not intended, since the ascending quarter note line is then no longer in octaves. I used to think that these parts were in Bb basso, but I no longer believe that to be the case. B ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sep 17, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Robert Dickow wrote: Worse, Stravinsky writes W tuben in "B-flat alto" in Sacre, but that puts it one octave too high, so you have to adjust there too). ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Cantesteu horns
I was just curious and wanted more info. Bob On Aug 23, 2008, at 8:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed most of this. What's so great about cantesteu horns? In a message dated 8/22/2008 7:16:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks to all who responded - I appreciate it! Bob On Aug 22, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Pandolfi, Orlando wrote: Here you go: http://cantesanuhorns.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert N. Ward Sent: Fri 8/22/2008 2:55 PM To: Horn Mailing List - old Subject: [Hornlist] Cantesteu horns Hi all, I'm trying to get some more info regarding these horns which were apparently exhibited at the IHS Workshop. If anyone has a web site (or maybe a correct spelling, since Google reveals nothing) I'd be much obliged. Bob ****** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/marksueron%40aol.com **It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv000547) ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] what are you practicing/anybody know these pieces?
Hi all, Just getting back into shape after some time off this summer and I was enjoying playing: Barboteu: Etudes Classiques pour Cor Fun, not super hard, but still some challenges. What are YOU practicing? And while I was looking at these Barboteu Etudes, I noticed on the last page that there were pieces listed that were unfamiliar to me: Barboteu: 4 duos pour deux cors Limites our cor principal et orchestre 5 pieces poetiques pour cor en fa Dardenne: Prelude et danse pour cor-piano Quatre pieces pour cor en fa et piano Valse pour cor en fa et piano Anybody know these? And in a related question, has anyone ever heard a piece by Fidelio F. Finke, notably listed on the back page of some German editions we always play. I've always been curious... Hope you are all well, worldwide... Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Cantesteu horns
Thanks to all who responded - I appreciate it! Bob On Aug 22, 2008, at 3:44 PM, Pandolfi, Orlando wrote: Here you go: http://cantesanuhorns.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Robert N. Ward Sent: Fri 8/22/2008 2:55 PM To: Horn Mailing List - old Subject: [Hornlist] Cantesteu horns Hi all, I'm trying to get some more info regarding these horns which were apparently exhibited at the IHS Workshop. If anyone has a web site (or maybe a correct spelling, since Google reveals nothing) I'd be much obliged. Bob ****** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Cantesteu horns
Hi all, I'm trying to get some more info regarding these horns which were apparently exhibited at the IHS Workshop. If anyone has a web site (or maybe a correct spelling, since Google reveals nothing) I'd be much obliged. Bob ****** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] live concert recordings
Hi, In San Francisco, we have made virtually all of our recordings from live concerts since MTT became music director, including every Mahler Symphony CD. The process is pretty much as you describe it - everything is digital and recorded onto large hard drives, with tape backups, I think, and then from the 4 or 5 concerts, it's edited down to a final product. There is usually also a patch session right after the last concert for half an hour or so to just get a a few little details right that we might have missed. So is it "live"? I guess it depends on how you look at it, but I'd be surprised if any new orchestra recording is of a single concert, unedited, except for a special occasion. Even what you will see for our upcoming "live" TV at Carnegie Hall on Sept. 24 will not be totally live - the concert is at 7 EST and i think will be broadcast at 9 on PBS - the audio will be edited using the dress rehearsal as backup in case anything goes wrong - at least that's what happened when we did this a few years ago and did a Gershwin program to open the Carnegie season. Hope that fills in some blanks. Take it easy, B On Aug 15, 2008, at 7:17 PM, Glick, Ed wrote: I agree with what you say here, but I want to make a comment about one point you make, regarding recordings of live performances. It's my understanding that in many "live" concert recordings, sections from recordings from different nights (when an orchestra does perform the same program over several nights) are "spliced" in where necessary. (I put the word "splice" in quotes, because tape - if tape is even used - is no longer spliced physically now, but by a computer.) I'm told that sometimes the orchestra is even called back to record sections specifically for the recording. This is all hearsay. Does anyone have direct knowledge of what goes on in "live" recordings? Ed Glick ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] ?Practice mutes...
Also you might consider the Bremner Ssshhh Mute - I find it to be very good. http://www.sshhmute.com/ Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Aug 13, 2008, at 9:49 PM, Ben Reidhead wrote: I would add the Ion Balu practice mute to your list. Its available at http://www.ionbalu.com/more_products.html. I've been playing with one quite a bit recently due to some extended time in a hotel room, and not noticed many ill effects from it. I'm quite happy. Ben --- On Wed, 8/13/08, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Hornlist] ?Practice mutes... To: horn@music.memphis.edu Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 10:33 PM Hi folks, I'm temporarily living in an apartment where the neighbors object about my horn practice even though I'm done by 7:30. I tried using my standard non-transposing mute. While a lot quieter, it's just not the same as practice without. In my search for practice mutes, I found a Wick for ~$75 and this "Yamaha SB39 Silent Brass System" (for French Horn). It purports to not have the back pressure of a standard mute and let you hear your playing as if you are not muted - but quiet to others. It consists of their special mute with a microphone in it and a small sound processing and headphone amplifier. The internet price is ~ $142. Here's a link to one place it's available: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Yamaha-SB39-Silent-Brass-System-for-French-Horn?sku=360205 I'd really like to try it first but have not found a place that actually stocks it. Sooo Do any of you folks have any experience with it? Or with practice mutes in general? All experience and advice welcome. Tnx, Toot, Tony ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/corno42%40yahoo.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc
This question somehow reminds me of a story told about one of our local freelance tuba players. He played an entire performance of the Nutcracker with a mouthpiece he carved out of a potato shortly beforehand. The sad thing was how good it sounded, he said. Bob ** Robert N. Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: Ashley: get a metal mouthpiece - you'll be happier. And try out a bunch before you buy. On May 29, 2008, at 1:38 PM, Ashley Grothe wrote: I am looking for a new mouthpiece to try. I don't really know what kind I want, but am leaning toward a wooden one. I was wondering if there was anyway to look at one before taking the dive and purchasing one then deciding it doesn't work for me... -Ashle ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Instruments
My vote for Post of the Year. At least so far. B On Feb 11, 2008, at 2:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/02/2008 22:54:55 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can someone tell me the most popular instruments used by American major symphony players? Violins lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net Bob Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony http://www.rnward.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] hand position
Hi all, I'd like to also recommend the hand position advocated in this article: http://www.osmun.com/reference/the_horn/thehorn14.htm I find that it has the advantage of being the same, sitting or standing, and is very easy to change to stopped horn. In addition, it makes you sound darker to yourself than the "palm up" position, so you are more likely to play with a clearer sound which will then project better at a distance. I also urge players to keep their palm straight when using this position, so that you do not cover too much and lose the clarity and focus that you can get. In addition, experiment with putting your hand further in, while keeping the palm straight. It can do wonders for centering high notes. Just my own experience... B Bob Ward Principal Horn San Francisco Symphony http://www.rnward.com On Dec 14, 2007, at 6:30 PM, Tim Van Gijsegem wrote: Valerie IMO, the ideal hand position is the Chambers hand position (palm upwards). It lets you here your 'core' sound (Tony Halstead's words).. Also..it's true when people say you sound less bright in a hall as a horn when you play..But again IMO, you won't sound an 'darker' either...My ideal sound is a rich sound, with a heavy undertone. To achieve this in a hall I play, mainly, an 8D with a large bore (nr. 4) mouthpiece..not the largest mouthpiece, but I sound a bit 'richer' (not brighter!) close up than I do in the hall, and that sound is what I try to achieve. When I'm recoring, or playing in a 'close microphone' situation, I use an ever larger bore moutpiece (nr 1) (all with a special Jim Thatcher backbore) Obviously my personal sound preference is the Hollywood sound (or the London sound from mid 60's to early 70's) What is consistent with any GREAT horn player is the richness of sound and his musical abilities (phrasing), I can listen to Clevenger, Derosa, Thatcher, Pyatt, Jones, etc.. And they all have one of those things more or less in common, a rich sound (either compact or broad, clear or dark) and a great sense of phrasing, and of course, having the technical potential to do so.. So my advise is this, listen and practise. No more, no less! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Valerie WELLS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn1 list Subject: [Hornlist] horn comparison Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:58:11 -0800 I recently met w/ two other horn players in a large church sanctuary w/ carpeted floors & upholstered pews to compare the sound of three horns. One of the other horn players is a professional. The other horn player & I are amatuers. We each took turns testing the horns behind a screen so that the listeners wouldn't know which horn was being played. Of course, the professional was able to make all the horns sound gorgeous, but the results were consistent w/ all three of us playing. We were listening for a clear ringing tone & projection that carried to the back of the room. Here's what we found from best overall sound to poorest overall sound. (1) Holton 278 modified w/ H180 leadpipe (med bell throat. yellow brass) (2) Yamaha 667 (med bell throat, yellow brass) (3) Holton 179 (large bell throat, silver) The used & modified H278 was the clear winner each time it was played. It had the most sweet & clear singing tone of all three instruments. The professional said that when I played the H179, it sounded as if a rag was stuffed in the bell. I've been told by another horn playing friend that the likely reason is I was using improper right hand position for that type of horn. I was given this article to read. http://www.osmun.com/reference/the_horn/ thehorn14.htmI was not using my hand as described in this article, so I've decided to modify my right hand technique to see if I can get my H179 to better project a clearer tone. Comments anyone? Valerie___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/tim_vg%40techemail.com _ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Ligetti
Last time I played it, I used a page turner... On Dec 1, 2007, at 5:20 AM, Alon reuven wrote: Hi all , can anyone tell me how the %^&*$!! can I turn pages in the Ligetti trio ?the guy forgot that we use two hands ! Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/ options/horn/rnward%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
