[Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a
To me , the sound in julius cezar was fine and fitted well the style . We play broque music quite often , and untill recently I used to play on a double descant in all of the cantatas or any other hair lifting stuff . I think that with the right preperation you can get very nice tone out of allmost every thing if you follow your Image and ear , instead of following the tubing . the problem starts when one trys not to take any risks , or on the other and , when one is becoming a tubing freak . By the way ,Hans , can you please remind me this Aria's name ? Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a
The aria is the Va tacito e nascosto from Handel's Giulio Cesare. Best wishes, Paul On 5/26/07, Alon reuven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me , the sound in julius cezar was fine and fitted well the style . We play broque music quite often , and untill recently I used to play on a double descant in all of the cantatas or any other hair lifting stuff . I think that with the right preperation you can get very nice tone out of allmost every thing if you follow your Image and ear , instead of following the tubing . the problem starts when one trys not to take any risks , or on the other and , when one is becoming a tubing freak . By the way ,Hans , can you please remind me this Aria's name ? Alon ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/parsifal560sec%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple?
Thank you for the tips guy. I know that some horn players have both, the descant and the triple horn (like Philip Myers, for instance). What's the advantage of the descant over the triple? It's just the weight? 2007/5/24, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just remove the Bb-slides the extension or full slides for the regular F-side. You get a single high-F with somewhat more resonance due to the more weight. This is a good compromise. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:09 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple? Hello Guy Like I said before I'm not a horn play, I'm a trumpet player, but I'm asking this question to my father-in-law. He has a double King horn (I don't know the model), and now he's trying to play some baroque pieces that are extremely high. In his opinion his sound is too heavy with his regular double. He's thinking about getting a new horn and now he has a doubt. When you have a triple is it necessary a descant? For a person that has a double, is it better get a triple or a descant? Thank you Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/robson.adabo%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple?
The sound is much lighter, but one cannot (really) practise on these horns, as one will try to produce a big (as usual) sound. This will eat up the lip, if one is not most careful plays as light as possible. This has also the advantage to produce a fine shiny silvery tone quality - requires a deep mouthpiece a reasonable big bore (I use 5 mms). Listen to my sample from Haendel´s opera Giulio Cesare: www.pizka.de/caesar.wma (live performance, premiere at the Munich National Theatre 1996) === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple? Thank you for the tips guy. I know that some horn players have both, the descant and the triple horn (like Philip Myers, for instance). What's the advantage of the descant over the triple? It's just the weight? 2007/5/24, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just remove the Bb-slides the extension or full slides for the regular F-side. You get a single high-F with somewhat more resonance due to the more weight. This is a good compromise. = ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple?
Hans Pizka wrote: The sound is much lighter, but one cannot (really) practise on these horns, as one will try to produce a big (as usual) sound. This will eat up the lip, if one is not most careful plays as light as possible. This has also the advantage to produce a fine shiny silvery tone quality - requires a deep mouthpiece a reasonable big bore (I use 5 mms). Listen to my sample from Haendel´s opera Giulio Cesare: www.pizka.de/caesar.wma (live performance, premiere at the Munich National Theatre 1996) Hans, lovely, delightful playing - thank you for sharing the link with us. After listening to it, I realize that you certainly could have played this on a Bb horn (and you probably could even have played it on a standard F horn). Is your choice of a descant because of the quality of the sound primarily, or because of the added security of hitting those notes on a smaller horn, or both? My guess is mostly the former and a little of the latter. The sound is fascinating to me - you can hear that the instrument is shorter and yet it is still a French Horn, although one could _almost_ be fooled into thinking it's a trumpet in one or two spots - again, thanks for sharing. It's the best example I have yet heard (granted that I have not heard that many in my short life as a horn player) of the essence of a descant horn. -S- === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 3:04 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple? Thank you for the tips guy. I know that some horn players have both, the descant and the triple horn (like Philip Myers, for instance). What's the advantage of the descant over the triple? It's just the weight? 2007/5/24, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Just remove the Bb-slides the extension or full slides for the regular F-side. You get a single high-F with somewhat more resonance due to the more weight. This is a good compromise. = ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple?
Hello Guy Like I said before I'm not a horn play, I'm a trumpet player, but I'm asking this question to my father-in-law. He has a double King horn (I don't know the model), and now he's trying to play some baroque pieces that are extremely high. In his opinion his sound is too heavy with his regular double. He's thinking about getting a new horn and now he has a doubt. When you have a triple is it necessary a descant? For a person that has a double, is it better get a triple or a descant? Thank you Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple?
From a lurker: Before he commits to buying a new horn, he should try removing all of the F side tubing for playing those pieces. When playing that high that consistently you don't need the low F side anyway, and the weight difference makes quite a change in the color/response of the horn. R Hello Guy Like I said before I'm not a horn play, I'm a trumpet player, but I'm asking this question to my father-in-law. He has a double King horn (I don't know the model), and now he's trying to play some baroque pieces that are extremely high. In his opinion his sound is too heavy with his regular double. He's thinking about getting a new horn and now he has a doubt. When you have a triple is it necessary a descant? For a person that has a double, is it better get a triple or a descant? Thank you Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/raschaub%40hotmail.com _ PC Magazines 2007 editors choice for best Web mailaward-winning Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-usocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_pcmag_0507 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple?
Just remove the Bb-slides the extension or full slides for the regular F-side. You get a single high-F with somewhat more resonance due to the more weight. This is a good compromise. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robson Adabo de Mello Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2007 6:09 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Is it necessary a descant when you have a triple? Hello Guy Like I said before I'm not a horn play, I'm a trumpet player, but I'm asking this question to my father-in-law. He has a double King horn (I don't know the model), and now he's trying to play some baroque pieces that are extremely high. In his opinion his sound is too heavy with his regular double. He's thinking about getting a new horn and now he has a doubt. When you have a triple is it necessary a descant? For a person that has a double, is it better get a triple or a descant? Thank you Robson ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
