Re: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
I found that out the hard way. On 9/13/07, hans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Reba, for what will you use a high F in Verdi´s Requiem ??? All transpositions to A are BASSO definitively Think about when Verdi wrote this piece and think about the character of this music listen to a recording with a orld class ensemble conductor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reba McLaurin Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:16 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem Has anyone ever played the third horn part of the Verdi Requiem on a single high f horn? Can it be played up? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/sallym.of.mclaurin%40gmail.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
Has anyone ever played the third horn part of the Verdi Requiem on a single high f horn? Can it be played up? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
Reba, for what will you use a high F in Verdi´s Requiem ??? All transpositions to A are BASSO definitively Think about when Verdi wrote this piece and think about the character of this music listen to a recording with a orld class ensemble conductor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reba McLaurin Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 3:16 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem Has anyone ever played the third horn part of the Verdi Requiem on a single high f horn? Can it be played up? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
Hans wrote: The requiem surely asks for A-basso Ab-basso. The conductors should know it from the score. It seems they cannot even imagine how a score should sound. Poor conductors, you have failed your profession. Is just money counting your business ? Thank you Hans and all who answered. Actually this is a fully amatorial enterprise, in which we will be joined by an English orchestra and a German choir. The conductor is an enthusiastic choir conductor who is having her first experiences with orchestra, so don't blame her to much. She was able to organize this event... By the way, I now realize that I could answer my previous question about the A and Ab parts just by looking at the I and II horn parts, which are in E and Eb; obviously these could not be lower than III and IV! Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
Hold Daniel, hold, please, as there are plenty pieces where 3rd 4rth horn go much higher than 1st 2nd : Donizetti, Mendelssohn, etc. === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Canarutto Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 10:35 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem Hans wrote: The requiem surely asks for A-basso Ab-basso. The conductors should know it from the score. It seems they cannot even imagine how a score should sound. Poor conductors, you have failed your profession. Is just money counting your business ? Thank you Hans and all who answered. Actually this is a fully amatorial enterprise, in which we will be joined by an English orchestra and a German choir. The conductor is an enthusiastic choir conductor who is having her first experiences with orchestra, so don't blame her to much. She was able to organize this event... By the way, I now realize that I could answer my previous question about the A and Ab parts just by looking at the I and II horn parts, which are in E and Eb; obviously these could not be lower than III and IV! Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
On Friday, October 14, 2005, at 05:34 AM, Daniel Canarutto wrote: By the way, I now realize that I could answer my previous question about the A and Ab parts just by looking at the I and II horn parts, which are in E and Eb; obviously these could not be lower than III and IV! Oh yes, they can. There are numerous examples in the literature. Check out the horn parts of Brahms and Berlioz in all orchestral works. CORdially, Paul Mansur ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
I've never played these part or heard them in Alto, only in Basso. Simon -- Original Message -- Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 15:15:32 +0200 From: Daniel Canarutto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem Reply-To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Horns III IV in Verdi Requiem have Nr.1 written for horn in A, and Nr.3 written for horn in Ab. I'm pretty sure that these are A basso and Ab basso, but I'd appreciate an authoritative confirmation since the conductor (a fine singer and choir master) says she does not really know. These parts are fairly chromatic at places, and I wonder why they were not all written for horn in F, since when Verdi wrote this work the valved F horn should have been the standard instrument... am I wrong? By the way, if anybody is planning to be in Florence on october 23, you can find the play-bill at http://poincare.dma.unifi.it/~canarutto/23ottobre05/ Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/amade%40lineone.net Regards, Simon ___ Unlimited Tiscali Broadband from 14.99! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/ ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem
I do not know any piece by Verdi written for horn A-alto or Ab-alto. The requiem surely asks for A-basso Ab-basso. The conductors should know it from the score. It seems they cannot even imagine how a score should sound. Poor conductors, you have failed your profession. Is just money counting your business ? Verdi used the horns in different transpositions as did Wagner Strauss. Why ? The hornplayer like clean notation without many accidentals. Tonalty A would require 4# for the F-horn, so there are none if the horn part is in A. And these A- or Ab-basso parts run just simple chords, never runs etc., so it is easy to transpose these spots. In the Requiem there are not longer passages to play. As Daniel said, just no.1 no.3 are in these quite rare transpositions. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Canarutto Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2005 2:16 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Verdi Requiem Horns III IV in Verdi Requiem have Nr.1 written for horn in A, and Nr.3 written for horn in Ab. I'm pretty sure that these are A basso and Ab basso, but I'd appreciate an authoritative confirmation since the conductor (a fine singer and choir master) says she does not really know. These parts are fairly chromatic at places, and I wonder why they were not all written for horn in F, since when Verdi wrote this work the valved F horn should have been the standard instrument... am I wrong? By the way, if anybody is planning to be in Florence on october 23, you can find the play-bill at http://poincare.dma.unifi.it/~canarutto/23ottobre05/ Daniel ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
