Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Colin the Hornfellow wrote: I recommend the Pizka Mouthpiece. http://www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm after working with numerous makes and combinations, I think its the one that works very well for my developement and for my young students. Second that. During my search for the ideal mouthpiece for me (remember, it's quite an individual thing), I settled on the Pizka mouthpiece for quite a while. Long enough to buy four or five of them, and give a couple to friends. However, I finally figured out that what I really needed is a wider diameter, to fit my teeth and facial bones better. Currently, the Laskey 85G is the best compromise I've found, because it fits me well and works well with most of my horns. But if there'd been an 18.25 or 18.5mm version of the Pizka mouthpiece, I would have looked no farther. I'd have had no reason to. Bore size, cup shape, and rim shape and thickness all seemed just about perfect to me. It was the first really thin rim I ever used, and that greatly helped my articulation. Hans, is there any chance that you'll be enlarging your line of mouthpieces (pun intended), now that you'll have more time on your hands? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Hello Colin, steve ownes that mouthpiece. Thanks for advertising. Greetings Hans = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Colin the Hornfellow Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 6:21 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces Hi Steve, I recommend the Pizka Mouthpiece. http://www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm after working with numerous makes and combinations, I think its the one that works very well for my developement and for my young students. Hope it helps. Colin the hornfellow Singapore Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone could tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site that shows this sort of information, that would be most helpful. The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. Thanks in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hornfellow%40 yahoo.com - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha Mouthpieces
Yes, I found this information on mouthpieceexpress.com - same info. It seems the 32C4 is the next Yamaha to try - same basic shape but a larger bore. -S- > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:26 PM > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha Mouthpieces > > http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesD > etail/0,,CNTID%25253D30666%252526CTID%25253D551144%252526DTYP% > 25253DSERIES,00.html > > > > > message: 11 > > date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:57:05 -0400 > > from: "Steve Freides" > > subject: RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > > > Yes, this is interesting, but I'm afraid it's not enough > for someone > > like me. :( For instance, when I was playing production Giardinelli > > mouthpieces, I knew that I liked the C series, and > experimented with > > the different sizes, which meant different bores, but basically the > > mouthpieces were all the same except for the size of the bore. > > > > I'd like to know what the difference is between, e.g., the > three that > > are all "30", and then the 29's and the 31's, etc. > Basically what I'm > > trying to do is sneak in a small change here. My son was 10 when he > > started playing the 30C4, he's now 14 and bigger than I am, plenty > > strong, has high notes to burn, so a slightly larger bore > mouthpiece > > might work out very well for him but I don't want to change > anything other than that one parameter if I can. > > In other words, I need to know if the "30" or the "C" or > the "4" means > > something in regard to the bore size and if they make another > > mouthpiece that might fit the bill here. > > > > Sorry to be so dense about this. > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
> -Original Message- > From: Colin the Hornfellow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:21 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > Hi Steve, > > I recommend the Pizka Mouthpiece. http://www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm > after working with numerous makes and combinations, I think > its the one that works very well for my developement and for > my young students. This is what I play, but it seems to me the opposite in many ways of what my son has gotten used to, and when he first tried it, he _really_ didn't like it. -S- > Hope it helps. > > Colin the hornfellow > Singapore > > Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. > To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the > interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick > with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope > it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone could > tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site that > shows this sort of information, that would be most helpful. > The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. > > Thanks in advance. > > -S- > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hornfellow%40yahoo.com > > - > The fish are biting. > Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Normal fractional drill bits often are sized every 1/32". Bore sizes correspond to numbered drill bits, and the difference between numbers is usually only a couple of thousandths. A number 3 bore is 0.213", and number 12 bore is 0.196". There are ten number drills covering a range that, at best, includes only two fractional drills. If you go to Harborfreight.com, you can buy a complete set of numbered drill bits, on sale, for $12.99. The bits are M-2 steel and are TiN coated. Only change the bore one number size at a time. At the very least, use a drill press. If possible, set it up so the mouthpiece spins, and the drill bit is clamped and stationary. Remember, you can easily drill it bigger, but you can't drill it smaller. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 8:54 AM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces I've had a couple horn professors tell me to drill a mouthpiece to a larger bore myself. I even did it to a $100 mouthpiece on a suggestion by a well respected horn professor ( you all know him ). Just fit the drill bits through the bore until you find the one with the tightest fit. Then go one bigger and drill away. Don't worry about centering too much it kind of self centers as long as you make an effort to drill straight. Since the yamaha mouthpiece is cheap and easy to come buy, it might be worth a shot. -James - Original Message From: Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Horn List Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:44:16 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone could tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site that shows this sort of information, that would be most helpful. The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. Thanks in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ndspmustang%40yahoo.com _ ___ Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Yamaha Mouthpieces
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,,CNTID%25253D30666%252526CTID%25253D551144%252526DTYP%25253DSERIES,00.html > > message: 11 > date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 12:57:05 -0400 > from: "Steve Freides" > subject: RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > Yes, this is interesting, but I'm afraid it's not enough for someone like > me. :( For instance, when I was playing production Giardinelli mouthpieces, > I knew that I liked the C series, and experimented with the different sizes, > which meant different bores, but basically the mouthpieces were all the same > except for the size of the bore. > > I'd like to know what the difference is between, e.g., the three that are > all "30", and then the 29's and the 31's, etc. Basically what I'm trying to > do is sneak in a small change here. My son was 10 when he started playing > the 30C4, he's now 14 and bigger than I am, plenty strong, has high notes to > burn, so a slightly larger bore mouthpiece might work out very well for him > but I don't want to change anything other than that one parameter if I can. > In other words, I need to know if the "30" or the "C" or the "4" means > something in regard to the bore size and if they make another mouthpiece > that might fit the bill here. > > Sorry to be so dense about this. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Hi Steve, I recommend the Pizka Mouthpiece. http://www.pizka.de/mpiece.htm after working with numerous makes and combinations, I think its the one that works very well for my developement and for my young students. Hope it helps. Colin the hornfellow Singapore Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone could tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site that shows this sort of information, that would be most helpful. The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. Thanks in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hornfellow%40yahoo.com - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Thanks, and thanks for your other email. I remember seeing such a chart in the past but couldn't find the right search terms this time. -S- > -Original Message- > From: Debbie Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 1:05 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > Steve do a search for "mouthpiece comparison charts" specific to horn. > > There are tons of charts with a variety of information. I am > sure you can find one with a bore size. > > Debbie > > > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Steve do a search for "mouthpiece comparison charts" specific to horn. There are tons of charts with a variety of information. I am sure you can find one with a bore size. Debbie ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
Yes, this is interesting, but I'm afraid it's not enough for someone like me. :( For instance, when I was playing production Giardinelli mouthpieces, I knew that I liked the C series, and experimented with the different sizes, which meant different bores, but basically the mouthpieces were all the same except for the size of the bore. I'd like to know what the difference is between, e.g., the three that are all "30", and then the 29's and the 31's, etc. Basically what I'm trying to do is sneak in a small change here. My son was 10 when he started playing the 30C4, he's now 14 and bigger than I am, plenty strong, has high notes to burn, so a slightly larger bore mouthpiece might work out very well for him but I don't want to change anything other than that one parameter if I can. In other words, I need to know if the "30" or the "C" or the "4" means something in regard to the bore size and if they make another mouthpiece that might fit the bill here. Sorry to be so dense about this. -S- > -Original Message- > From: Toru Ikeno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 12:24 PM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/winds/product/spec/oth > er/mp_spec/index.htm > > Hope this helps. > > Toru Ikeno > > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
http://www.yamaha.co.jp/english/product/winds/product/spec/other/mp_spec/index.htm Hope this helps. Toru Ikeno ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
All fine, but I'll never do it. My son is happy with what he has, and I'd just like to try the next size bigger, whatever it is, without giving myself a splinter. :) -S- > -Original Message- > From: James Wester [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:55 AM > To: The Horn List > Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > I've had a couple horn professors tell me to drill a > mouthpiece to a larger bore myself. I even did it to a $100 > mouthpiece on a suggestion by a well respected horn professor > ( you all know him ). Just fit the drill bits through the > bore until you find the one with the tightest fit. Then go > one bigger and drill away. Don't worry about centering too > much it kind of self centers as long as you make an effort to > drill straight. Since the yamaha mouthpiece is cheap and > easy to come buy, it might be worth a shot. > > -James > > - Original Message > From: Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: The Horn List > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:44:16 AM > Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces > > My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. > To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the > interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick > with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope > it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone > could tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site > that shows this sort of information, that would be most > helpful. The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. > > Thanks in advance. > > -S- > > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ndspmustang%40yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > __ > __ > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. > http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html > ___ > post: horn@music.memphis.edu > unsubscribe or set options at > http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/steve%40fridays computer.com > ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
I've had a couple horn professors tell me to drill a mouthpiece to a larger bore myself. I even did it to a $100 mouthpiece on a suggestion by a well respected horn professor ( you all know him ). Just fit the drill bits through the bore until you find the one with the tightest fit. Then go one bigger and drill away. Don't worry about centering too much it kind of self centers as long as you make an effort to drill straight. Since the yamaha mouthpiece is cheap and easy to come buy, it might be worth a shot. -James - Original Message From: Steve Freides <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: The Horn List Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 8:44:16 AM Subject: [Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone could tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site that shows this sort of information, that would be most helpful. The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. Thanks in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/ndspmustang%40yahoo.com Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
[Hornlist] Yamaha mouthpieces
My son has been playing a Yamaha 30C4 mouthpiece for years. To me, it feels like a pea-shooter, very narrow. In the interest of changing just one variable, I'd like to stick with Yamaha and find the next larger bore mouthpiece and hope it otherwise feels the same at the rim, etc. If someone could tell me which model that is, or point me to a web site that shows this sort of information, that would be most helpful. The idea here is to make a small change, not a big one. Thanks in advance. -S- ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org