RE: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
Hans Pizka wrote: --- READ MY MESSAGE TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE; READ IT CAREFULLY. IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING - AND I HAVE PLAYED THIS SOLO to manytimes in performances (may-be 200times) and for myself. And my fortissimo (at the end) is probably some 20-30 db louder than anybody else (except a handful of players), so I know about the problem (also head ache sometimes, near passing out sometimes because of too much tension, wrong lip opening etc.). NOT A CASE FOR A DOCTOR Please, friends, hold back with your advice if you dont know the matter from real world, please !! -- Even though I almost never post, I felt compelled to respond. I hope nobody listens to Hans's advice not to see a doctor about any physical discomfort or pain that might come from playing. In his next post, Hans said that a doctor can't help your horn playing. That's true. Just as true is that a horn player, no matter how good, shouldn't be giving you medical advice. If something is painful, I vote for seeing a doctor about it. It won't help your horn playing, but it could save your life! Matt Pollack Topsham, Maine ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
READ MY MESSAGE TO THIS MATTER, PLEASE; READ IT CAREFULLY. IT EXPLAINS EVERYTHING - AND I HAVE PLAYED THIS SOLO to manytimes in performances (may-be 200times) and for myself. And my fortissimo (at the end) is probably some 20-30 db louder than anybody else (except a handful of players), so I know about the problem (also head ache sometimes, near passing out sometimes because of too much tension, wrong lip opening etc.). NOT A CASE FOR A DOCTOR Please, friends, hold back with your advice if you dont know the matter from real world, please !! === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:59 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing You certainly want to bring this to a doctor's attention as soon as possible. Your doctor has modern resources to quickly rule out anything serious, and will probably have an explanation to put you at ease. You have a lot of friends on the list who will be waiting for you to post that you have an appointment with your doctor. To answer your question, no, I've never heard of a condition quite like that unless accompanied by a severe head cold. You brought it up and got our interest and concern. You now have a responsibility to yourself and your friends to report a definitive answer. ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
You certainly want to bring this to a doctor's attention as soon as possible. Your doctor has modern resources to quickly rule out anything serious, and will probably have an explanation to put you at ease. You have a lot of friends on the list who will be waiting for you to post that you have an appointment with your doctor. To answer your question, no, I've never heard of a condition quite like that unless accompanied by a severe head cold. You brought it up and got our interest and concern. You now have a responsibility to yourself and your friends to report a definitive answer. -Original Message- From: Paulette Velazquez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 14:37:09 -0500 Subject: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing I thought I¹d put this out there in case there is a Dr. or someone else who has experienced this. After I play Siegfried¹s Short Call I feel a rush of pain to my forehead that lasts maybe 4 seconds then goes away. Sometimes its is bearable and I can keep going, but the pain gets progressively more intense the more I practice it. I don¹t have headache problems and I don¹t think it¹s related to allergies because it happens at various times of the year. I¹ll discuss it with my Dr., but thought I¹d see if anyone else has experience with this. Paulette Velazquez ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/billbamberg%40aol.com ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
RE: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing
Paulette, why do you practice the Short Call, if you get head ache then ??? The head ache warns you, that you are doing something in a very wrong way. You seem not to have the strength in the high range. But is the Short Call anything high except the last run up to c3 ?? I doubt it. It is not really a high passage as it climbs to g2 only, except the lost run. If such a task comes up, one must be ready for it LOONG BEEEFR. Understood ??? No, you cannot understand that, as your philosophy (and the philosophy of others) is it, that "one has just to practise enough". Wrong, absolutely wrong. One has to grow step by step in a rather lengthy process. Then the Short Call will not create such sensations (or pains) as you described. You seem to hold the lips much to tight together & you seem further to do the solo with much to big force. Iut is not that like. Loud playing comes just at the end, as the orchestra starts playing & one should be heard. But loud playing has nothing to do with big force. One needs the technique to release more air instead blowing much air through a narrow hole. If you are not able to do that, hands-off the Short Call. You might ruin much more than you gain by practising the SHORT CALL. What is to be practised with the Short Call at all ? Nothing, nothing, nothing. If home work is done long before, these F-major (written as C-major) passages are so simple like beginner exercises. Well, playing the last step-by-step triplets run requires a quite fast single tongue. If you take this solo to prepare your fast single tongue, it is the wrong place. Do home work first, get the necessary strength first, and then just play the Short Call without even thinking. Punctum ! Once again: PUNCTUM ! Your pain in the head is not a case for any medic, it is just a thing you can solve by yourself by keeping playing & studying discipline. Last word: if you really play the Short Call in a performance with BIG ORCHESTRA, and if you go on full power for the high c, well, you will feel a certain pressure in your head anyway, sometimes nearly passing out ! But you seem to be still far away from that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paulette Velazquez Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 8:37 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: [Hornlist] Rushing headaches while playing I thought I¹d put this out there in case there is a Dr. or someone else who has experienced this. After I play Siegfried¹s Short Call I feel a rush of pain to my forehead that lasts maybe 4 seconds then goes away. Sometimes its is bearable and I can keep going, but the pain gets progressively more intense the more I practice it. I don¹t have headache problems and I don¹t think it¹s related to allergies because it happens at various times of the year. I¹ll discuss it with my Dr., but thought I¹d see if anyone else has experience with this. Paulette Velazquez ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka. de ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
