Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
Dave W wrote about attaching quarters to thumb levers: Some horn players use them on the thumb lever as an extension, as well. Usually they have to be bent before soldering for ergonomic reasons. ** I took a horn lesson with Alan Greenspan once, and he recommended attaching the coins with library paste. It doesn't hold them very well, but he believed in trickle-down ergonomics. gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
What is the purpose of these coins? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
1. Adds thickness to valve levers that have worn down thin -- prevents such wear on newer valve levers. 2. Provides for lengthening the levers to accommodate players with shortish fingers. 3. Gives a tactile reminder to keep the fingers appropriately arched so that the balls of the fingers are in contact with the wide parts of the valve levers. 4. Silver coins on the valve levers are w-a-a-a-a-y cool ! BTW, I always thought the de riguer part was using older coins of genuine silver (staying away from those newer, base-metal coins). If so, that pretty much rules out using USA coins dated the same as the year the horn was made, except for pre-1964 horns. Also, the way I heard it is that the date on the coins is supposed to match the birth-year of the horn player -- which also rules out USA silver coins except for folks already well into middle-age beyond. I am not familiar with Liberty Head dimes; don't the USA horn folks usually go for Mercury dimes? (Might be 2 different names for the same thing, I don't know.) However that may be, any way you shake it silver coins are way cooler than those sissy concave finger buttons -- at least among the rank amateur horn crowd. (Don't know about the professionals, though.) -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ At 01:20 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: What is the purpose of these coins? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
If God had meant us to attach coins to our valve levers we would still have silver dimes. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Cole Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:13 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR 1. Adds thickness to valve levers that have worn down thin -- prevents such wear on newer valve levers. 2. Provides for lengthening the levers to accommodate players with shortish fingers. 3. Gives a tactile reminder to keep the fingers appropriately arched so that the balls of the fingers are in contact with the wide parts of the valve levers. 4. Silver coins on the valve levers are w-a-a-a-a-y cool ! BTW, I always thought the de riguer part was using older coins of genuine silver (staying away from those newer, base-metal coins). If so, that pretty much rules out using USA coins dated the same as the year the horn was made, except for pre-1964 horns. Also, the way I heard it is that the date on the coins is supposed to match the birth-year of the horn player -- which also rules out USA silver coins except for folks already well into middle-age beyond. I am not familiar with Liberty Head dimes; don't the USA horn folks usually go for Mercury dimes? (Might be 2 different names for the same thing, I don't know.) However that may be, any way you shake it silver coins are way cooler than those sissy concave finger buttons -- at least among the rank amateur horn crowd. (Don't know about the professionals, though.) -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~ At 01:20 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote: What is the purpose of these coins? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/bgross%40airmail.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
Hey, we got'm -- no problem. Don't know how God feels about it, but plenty of the old silver dimes are still around. Check out eBay. Check out coin shops you can find listed in the Yellow Pages. Shucks, check out the Florida flea markets. Though no longer in circulation, silver dimes are plentiful not all that expensive -- I mean the ones maybe not pristine enough for coin collectors but still plenty nice enough for horn levers -- at least for rank amateur horn players. (Don't know about the professionals -- they might think silver coins on horn valve levers are a terrible affectation -- a sure sign of bad taste the rankest amateurism.) Full disclosure: I had silver dimes professionally soldered onto the 1-2-3 valve levers of my eBay horns (e.g., oddball Lehmann-style compensating horn by Josef Lidl, no-name copy of Alexander 102ST, Yamaha YHR-668N, etc.), but not my non-eBay horns (Alexander 103, Lawson 804). -- Alan Cole, rank amateur McLean (Fairfax County), Virginia, USA. ~~~ If God had meant us to attach coins to our valve levers we would still have silver dimes. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.11/26 - Release Date: 6/22/2005 ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
So that one might always be solvent with 30 cents hard cash always at hand. Pun intended. CORdially, Mansur's Answers On Thursday, June 23, 2005, at 01:20 PM, Bill Gross wrote: What is the purpose of these coins? ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/p_mansur1%40comcast.net ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
On 23 Jun 2005, at 8:13 pm, Alan Cole wrote: However that may be, any way you shake it silver coins are way cooler than those sissy concave finger buttons -- at least among the rank amateur horn crowd. (Don't know about the professionals, though.) I think by far the coolest coins to use on a horn would be Austrian Philharmonikers. Orchestral motif (with Vienna Horn) and solid gold. Not cheap but, do you love your horn or not? ;o) http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/philharmonicasinfo.html Tom ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
And you can wait how fast these thin coins wear as they are of 24ct gold, but I admit, they belong to the most beautiful coins. They come in 1/10 ounce, 1/4 ounce , 1/2 ounce 1/1 ounce and are relatively cheap compared design gold weight. They cost just a tiny bit over the gold price. == -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Warner Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 9:36 PM To: The Horn List Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR On 23 Jun 2005, at 8:13 pm, Alan Cole wrote: However that may be, any way you shake it silver coins are way cooler than those sissy concave finger buttons -- at least among the rank amateur horn crowd. (Don't know about the professionals, though.) I think by far the coolest coins to use on a horn would be Austrian Philharmonikers. Orchestral motif (with Vienna Horn) and solid gold. Not cheap but, do you love your horn or not? ;o) http://www.taxfreegold.co.uk/philharmonicasinfo.html Tom ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/hans%40pizka.d e ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
- Original Message - From: Alan Cole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR 1. Adds thickness to valve levers that have worn down thin -- prevents such wear on newer valve levers. 2. Provides for lengthening the levers to accommodate players with shortish fingers. 3. Gives a tactile reminder to keep the fingers appropriately arched so that the balls of the fingers are in contact with the wide parts of the valve levers. 4. Silver coins on the valve levers are w-a-a-a-a-y cool ! BTW, I always thought the de riguer part was using older coins of genuine silver (staying away from those newer, base-metal coins). If so, that pretty much rules out using USA coins dated the same as the year the horn was made, except for pre-1964 horns. Also, the way I heard it is that the date on the coins is supposed to match the birth-year of the horn player -- which also rules out USA silver coins except for folks already well into middle-age beyond. I am not familiar with Liberty Head dimes; don't the USA horn folks usually go for Mercury dimes? (Might be 2 different names for the same thing, I don't know.) Mercury dimes, pedantically known as Winged Head Liberty dime, was errantly given it's Mercury name because someone thought Mercury had a winged cap. They were made from 1916 through 1945, excluding 1922, '32, and '33. Various other Liberty designs on dimes (and everything else) existed all the way back to 1793 (1796 for dimes). The first real person to appear on a U.S. coin was Christopher Columbus (1892), although trial designs with George Washington were made in the 1860s. For the Chinese eBay horns, the best coins to place on top of the levers would be Yap stones. John Baumgart ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
I knew that Alan Greenspan was a Juilliard grad, but didn't know he was a horn player! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 1:18 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR Dave W wrote about attaching quarters to thumb levers: Some horn players use them on the thumb lever as an extension, as well. Usually they have to be bent before soldering for ergonomic reasons. ** I took a horn lesson with Alan Greenspan once, and he recommended attaching the coins with library paste. It doesn't hold them very well, but he believed in trickle-down ergonomics. gotta go, Cabbage ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/pandolfi%40deerfield.edu ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Coins as lever extensions, formerly HR
For gorgeous coins, check out Cuba's mariposa (butterfly) series:
http://wbcc-online.com/ctrys-c/cuba.html
The coins are tri-metallic and they appear to be enameled with bright
colors. I can't imagine anyone actually using them to buy stuff with.
{ David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] }
{ Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College }
{ Ann Arbor Michigan }
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