Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 04:15 PM, David Goldberg wrote: On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, John Kowalchuk wrote: P.S. Those of us in the Toronto area still shudder at the mention of CDC. OK then, special trill instruction for our acronymically distressed Canadian friends: CACACACACA... Oh poop, that's just what my trills sound like:-P Leigh ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
Sorry, I really rely on spells Czech. Julio de la Rosa PS Sometimes they pick the wrong word and misspell it! - Original Message - From: Paul Mansur [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh! Spell check doesn't help if the word chosen is just the wrong word, but spelled correctly. The intended word seem to be pretty obvious. On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 03:04 PM, David Goldberg wrote: descent speed. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jdelarosa%40ameritech.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
Sorry, I can't comment on your main question, but am very interested in this 'powered wig'. Where can I get one of these? - Original Message Follows - hey, once again I am working on the mozart 2nd horn concerto 3rd mov. like we said and I was wondering about the quater note length trills in the line right before the return of the main theme. Are the necessary. is so Do you have any sugesstions on how to get them I am find them quite diffcult right now. On the 2 recording I have of this. Denis Brain makes a huge deal a very classical powered wig feeling. and on the other John Cemenairo seems to almost some how not play them but still play them *if that even works?* like a said I find it better to play it with no trills that way the line comes out or at least that is what my accompinest says John ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40access4less.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
Me too. I can't begin to tell you just how frustrating it is to get a trill up to descent speed. Let me know about that powered wig too. -LaNetra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh! Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 10:46:10 -0700 Sorry, I can't comment on your main question, but am very interested in this 'powered wig'. Where can I get one of these? - Original Message Follows - hey, once again I am working on the mozart 2nd horn concerto 3rd mov. like we said and I was wondering about the quater note length trills in the line right before the return of the main theme. Are the necessary. is so Do you have any sugesstions on how to get them I am find them quite diffcult right now. On the 2 recording I have of this. Denis Brain makes a huge deal a very classical powered wig feeling. and on the other John Cemenairo seems to almost some how not play them but still play them *if that even works?* like a said I find it better to play it with no trills that way the line comes out or at least that is what my accompinest says John ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40access4less.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cheraine20%40hotmail.com _ Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
LaNetra: If you want faster trills, try thinking of them at ascent speed. Does the powered wig comb itself? Do you have spell check? Julio de la Rosa - Original Message - From: Lanetra Carther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:27 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh! Me too. I can't begin to tell you just how frustrating it is to get a trill up to descent speed. Let me know about that powered wig too. -LaNetra From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Horn List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh! Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 10:46:10 -0700 Sorry, I can't comment on your main question, but am very interested in this 'powered wig'. Where can I get one of these? - Original Message Follows - hey, once again I am working on the mozart 2nd horn concerto 3rd mov. like we said and I was wondering about the quater note length trills in the line right before the return of the main theme. Are the necessary. is so Do you have any sugesstions on how to get them I am find them quite diffcult right now. On the 2 recording I have of this. Denis Brain makes a huge deal a very classical powered wig feeling. and on the other John Cemenairo seems to almost some how not play them but still play them *if that even works?* like a said I find it better to play it with no trills that way the line comes out or at least that is what my accompinest says John ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/fbaucom%40access4less.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/cheraine20%40hotmail.com _ Help protect your PC: Get a free online virus scan at McAfee.com. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/jdelarosa%40ameritech.net ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Lanetra Carther wrote: Me too. I can't begin to tell you just how frustrating it is to get a trill up to descent speed. Let me know about that powered wig too. For the trill - try a purely tongue trill. I have recommended it here before. With some practice, it starts instantly and runs at high speed. To get the idea, try whistling a tongue trill - just back forth tongue motion. To succeed on the horn, you have to keep up lots of air support and really shovel air forward with your tongue. Lip to get between the two notes so that the forward motion clicks to the higher note. It's a little like riding a wild horse until it behaves. Or a dead horse, if nothing happens. At the same time, you can practice either tongue or lip trills not by gradually increasing speed, but by increasing the number of fast repetitions. I mean, start with CDC rest CDC rest ... (x 50 - until reliable) Then CDCDC rest CDCDC rest ... Then CDCDCDC rest ... The powered wig I began as a little-known 18 century device used for splitting hairs. The manufacturer went out of business because nobody wanted toupee for it. But it became the inspiration for the modern computer wysi-wyg concept: what you see is what you get. So the powered wig lives on - it is electrically powered now, and that is neither hair nor there. Now Lanetra, you simply MUST explain about descent speed. My ancestors took millions of years to prepare me to be able to trill. { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College } { Ann Arbor Michigan } ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
At 03:04 PM 9/1/03 -0400, David Goldberg wrote: Now Lanetra, you simply MUST explain about descent speed. My ancestors took millions of years to prepare me to be able to trill. I fear that with David's comments this discussion is heading downhill rather quickly. A situation that would cause any wig, powered or not, to come loose. Powered whigs are a totally different concept. P.S. Those of us in the Toronto area still shudder at the mention of CDC. John Kowalchuk maker of mutes/horns/canoes/paddles/bikes Oshawa, Ontario http://home.ca.inter.net/~horn1 Canadians don't surf the net, we paddle it. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, John Kowalchuk wrote: P.S. Those of us in the Toronto area still shudder at the mention of CDC. OK then, special trill instruction for our acronymically distressed Canadian friends: CACACACACA... On reflection - you know, that's not a bad idea at all. (Bb open horn) { David Goldberg: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } { Math Dept, Washtenaw Community College } { Ann Arbor Michigan } ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org
Re: [Hornlist] Trills ? !Argh!
Spell check doesn't help if the word chosen is just the wrong word, but spelled correctly. The intended word seem to be pretty obvious. On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 03:04 PM, David Goldberg wrote: descent speed. ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org