Re: [HOT] allow more aggressive caching for tasks.hotosm.org

2014-11-03 Thread Pierre GIRAUD
This issue should be fixed with
https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/pull/429.
I hope I will be able to deploy this sooner this week.

Regards,
Pierre

On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Hi Florian,

 It is an important point to look at with all the african among other
 contributors having slow internet connections.

 If you have a github account, you can open a ticket at
 https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/

 Pierre

 
 De : Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de
 À : HOT@openstreetmap.org
 Envoyé le : Samedi 25 octobre 2014 14h39
 Objet : [HOT] allow more aggressive caching for tasks.hotosm.org


 Hi,
 i have been looking at my squid logs lately and discovered that for
 example the HOT task manager trys very hard to make static content
 uncacheable - for example this (line from my squid cache):

 1414261472.792  6464 192.168.177.157 TCP_MISS/200 95271 GET
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/static/js/lib/jquery-1.7.2.min.js? -
 DIRECT/144.76.31.210 application/javascript

 The ? at the end of the URL causes this static content to be uncachable.

 There are lots more examples which causes the web page to be much
 slower than it needs to be. There are alternative ways to control
 cachability of content on client side.

 PLEASE - Use expire headers, timestamps or paths for
 controlling caches.

 I am living with a 384kbit/s connection and stuff like this makes
 life a lot slower - also for people in desaster areas who most likely
 fight for every kbit/s they can squeeze out of some flaky GSM link.

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Re: [HOT] osm now has changeset discussions - use for validation messages?

2014-11-03 Thread Blake Girardot

Hi all,

moltonel3x on #OSM irc just noted something that we should also keep in 
mind:


There is a potential for confusion between changeset comment and 
changeset comments


I do not think it will affect us very much, but it is something we 
should keep in mind in case new mappers don't quite understand there is 
a difference and one we would very much like them to fill out and the 
other is optional.


Cheers,
Blake



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Hi all,

OpenStreetMap has a new feature called changeset discussions - described here:
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/

It seems quite useful for feedback on HOT aerial mapping. As an
example, I just validated a square and I added a comment on the actual
changeset itself:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26398525

For now, I _also_ put the same comment into the Tasking Manager item:
http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/713#task/203

A nice thing about this new feature is that it automatically emails
the right people to notify them of the comments. A possible negative
is that the conversation is entirely public.

Any other HOT validators have opinions about whether we should start
to make more use of the feature?

Best
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Re: [HOT] osm now has changeset discussions - use for validation messages?

2014-11-03 Thread Dan S
FYI, this is why the OSM developers deliberately called it changeset
discussion - we should try to stick to that term :)

2014-11-03 15:36 GMT+00:00 Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com:
 Hi all,

 moltonel3x on #OSM irc just noted something that we should also keep in
 mind:

 There is a potential for confusion between changeset comment and
 changeset comments

 I do not think it will affect us very much, but it is something we should
 keep in mind in case new mappers don't quite understand there is a
 difference and one we would very much like them to fill out and the other is
 optional.

 Cheers,
 Blake



 On 11/2/2014 3:42 PM, Dan S wrote:

 Hi all,

 OpenStreetMap has a new feature called changeset discussions - described
 here:

 https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2014/11/02/introducing-changeset-discussions/

 It seems quite useful for feedback on HOT aerial mapping. As an
 example, I just validated a square and I added a comment on the actual
 changeset itself:
 https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/26398525

 For now, I _also_ put the same comment into the Tasking Manager item:
 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/713#task/203

 A nice thing about this new feature is that it automatically emails
 the right people to notify them of the comments. A possible negative
 is that the conversation is entirely public.

 Any other HOT validators have opinions about whether we should start
 to make more use of the feature?

 Best
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[HOT] Fwd: [DHNetwork] Ebola DHN Coordinator post

2014-11-03 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi All,

For those involved in DHN who might be interested in a six month position.

Best,

-Kate

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Dear All,  Further to my email on friday, I am now sending you some more
details about the 6 month DHN Ebola Coordinator role.  I am attaching the
Terms of Reference, though it is likely that the post holder will need to
define the post more once they are in position.  The post will be
remote/home based.  The pay will be approx.  £
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_sign2,500 per month, and there is a
small amount of money for consumables and a possible visit to the field.
The post will report to a steering committee chaired by Andrej.  The
funding has come from DFID, and the salary will be paid by MapAction.  The
post is open to any volunteers associated with the DHN.



To apply, please send your CV and cover letter to Andrej (ver...@un.org)
and cc to Helen (hcampb...@mapaction.org) by Friday 7th Nov with the
subject title: Ebola DHN Coordinator Application. Please let me or Andrej
know if you have any questions.



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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Pierre Béland
Hi Noah,
this Grid layer could be an interesting feature in JOSM either. There is a JOSM 
enhancement ticket opened for this.https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/8464
 Pierre 

  De : noah ahles noah.ah...@gmail.com
 À : hot@openstreetmap.org 
 Envoyé le : Lundi 3 novembre 2014 9h53
 Objet : [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion
   
Hi Everyone,
I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont. We digitize as 
the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion that I think could 
increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a grid over each tile that could 
guide the user through editing, it would stop them from overlapping areas and 
increase accuracy of scanning. We do that here and it significantly improves 
performance. 
Here is an example from one of our projects. I start at the yellow circle in 
the upper left and scan across and down, across and down etc. then end at the 
blue circle. There are multiple routes that could guide you through the tile; 
some people prefer going down each column instead of across the rows.

 This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it just helps the 
user better organize their scanning route when looking through the imagery. I 
think this would be a nice function to be added to the ID editor that could be 
toggled on and off (maybe some people won't like it or a line could obstruct a 
feature).
Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday, November 9th 
10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is interested: 
http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/
Best,
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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Blake Girardot

Hi Noah,

I think this is a good idea. I have often wanted a grid to overlay on my 
task square to help me in scanning for things to map while zoomed in so 
I get the hi-res imagery.


Cheers,
Blake

On 11/3/2014 11:18 AM, noah ahles wrote:

This is a duplicate but it looks like my image did not load properly on
the last email. I attached it to this email.

Hi Everyone,

I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont. We
digitize as the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion that I
think could increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a grid over
each tile that could guide the user through editing, it would stop them
from overlapping areas and increase accuracy of scanning. We do that
here and it significantly improves performance.

Attached is an example from one of our projects. I start at the yellow
circle in the upper left and scan across and down, across and down etc.
then end at the blue circle. There are multiple routes that could guide
you through the tile; some people prefer going down each column instead
of across the rows.

This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it just helps
the user better organize their scanning route when looking through the
imagery. I think this would be a nice function to be added to the ID
editor that could be toggled on and off (maybe some people won't like it
or a line could obstruct a feature).

Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday,
November 9th 10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is interested:
http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/

Best,

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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Ralf Stephan
While it's not difficult to scan in JOSM via keyboard, once you leave that
zig-zag
for detailed viewing or editing, it's difficult to snap back to exactly
where you left
the trail. If there was a means for helping with it that would be awesome.

Regards,

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Noah,

 I think this is a good idea. I have often wanted a grid to overlay on my
 task square to help me in scanning for things to map while zoomed in so I
 get the hi-res imagery.

 Cheers,
 Blake


 On 11/3/2014 11:18 AM, noah ahles wrote:

 This is a duplicate but it looks like my image did not load properly on
 the last email. I attached it to this email.

 Hi Everyone,

 I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont. We
 digitize as the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion that I
 think could increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a grid over
 each tile that could guide the user through editing, it would stop them
 from overlapping areas and increase accuracy of scanning. We do that
 here and it significantly improves performance.

 Attached is an example from one of our projects. I start at the yellow
 circle in the upper left and scan across and down, across and down etc.
 then end at the blue circle. There are multiple routes that could guide
 you through the tile; some people prefer going down each column instead
 of across the rows.

 This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it just helps
 the user better organize their scanning route when looking through the
 imagery. I think this would be a nice function to be added to the ID
 editor that could be toggled on and off (maybe some people won't like it
 or a line could obstruct a feature).

 Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday,
 November 9th 10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is interested:
 http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/

 Best,

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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Blake Girardot

Ralf,

Have you tried the '8' key in JOSM? It steps you back through previous 
views until you get back to the one you want.


It is sort of like a multiple undo for view changes.

It mostly helps me when I accidentally zoom my view when trying to do 
something else, but it might help your use case too.


Cheers,
Blake




On 11/3/2014 11:51 AM, Ralf Stephan wrote:

While it's not difficult to scan in JOSM via keyboard, once you leave
that zig-zag
for detailed viewing or editing, it's difficult to snap back to exactly
where you left
the trail. If there was a means for helping with it that would be awesome.

Regards,

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Noah,

I think this is a good idea. I have often wanted a grid to overlay
on my task square to help me in scanning for things to map while
zoomed in so I get the hi-res imagery.

Cheers,
Blake


On 11/3/2014 11:18 AM, noah ahles wrote:

This is a duplicate but it looks like my image did not load
properly on
the last email. I attached it to this email.

Hi Everyone,

I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont. We
digitize as the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion
that I
think could increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a
grid over
each tile that could guide the user through editing, it would
stop them
from overlapping areas and increase accuracy of scanning. We do that
here and it significantly improves performance.

Attached is an example from one of our projects. I start at the
yellow
circle in the upper left and scan across and down, across and
down etc.
then end at the blue circle. There are multiple routes that
could guide
you through the tile; some people prefer going down each column
instead
of across the rows.

This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it
just helps
the user better organize their scanning route when looking
through the
imagery. I think this would be a nice function to be added to the ID
editor that could be toggled on and off (maybe some people won't
like it
or a line could obstruct a feature).

Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday,
November 9th 10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is
interested:
http://osmebolaoutbreak.__splashthat.com/
http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/

Best,

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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Ralf Stephan
Thanks Blake,
that works indeed. It's however too easy to undo too much.
Ideally the undo should stop at that certain level where the overall
scanning happens.

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:59 PM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ralf,

 Have you tried the '8' key in JOSM? It steps you back through previous
 views until you get back to the one you want.

 It is sort of like a multiple undo for view changes.

 It mostly helps me when I accidentally zoom my view when trying to do
 something else, but it might help your use case too.

 Cheers,
 Blake




 On 11/3/2014 11:51 AM, Ralf Stephan wrote:

 While it's not difficult to scan in JOSM via keyboard, once you leave
 that zig-zag
 for detailed viewing or editing, it's difficult to snap back to exactly
 where you left
 the trail. If there was a means for helping with it that would be awesome.

 Regards,

 On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 5:36 PM, Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com
 mailto:bgirar...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Noah,

 I think this is a good idea. I have often wanted a grid to overlay
 on my task square to help me in scanning for things to map while
 zoomed in so I get the hi-res imagery.

 Cheers,
 Blake


 On 11/3/2014 11:18 AM, noah ahles wrote:

 This is a duplicate but it looks like my image did not load
 properly on
 the last email. I attached it to this email.

 Hi Everyone,

 I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont.
 We
 digitize as the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion
 that I
 think could increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a
 grid over
 each tile that could guide the user through editing, it would
 stop them
 from overlapping areas and increase accuracy of scanning. We do
 that
 here and it significantly improves performance.

 Attached is an example from one of our projects. I start at the
 yellow
 circle in the upper left and scan across and down, across and
 down etc.
 then end at the blue circle. There are multiple routes that
 could guide
 you through the tile; some people prefer going down each column
 instead
 of across the rows.

 This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it
 just helps
 the user better organize their scanning route when looking
 through the
 imagery. I think this would be a nice function to be added to the
 ID
 editor that could be toggled on and off (maybe some people won't
 like it
 or a line could obstruct a feature).

 Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday,
 November 9th 10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is
 interested:
 http://osmebolaoutbreak.__splashthat.com/
 http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/

 Best,

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[HOT] iOS OSM offline app recommendation for deployment

2014-11-03 Thread Estabrook, Samuel H.
Hi Everyone,

I work on the American Red Cross Geospatial team and we are currently preparing 
for a personnel deployment to Ebola-stricken West Africa. We typically provide 
a tablet with offline maps for each team member deploying, and have had success 
with OsmAnd for Android-based tablets. I'm looking for a similar application on 
iOS that allows for offline storage of map tiles (specifically iOS 7 for an 
iPad mini). Can anyone suggest a free or paid app that provides this 
functionality? Thank you for your time.

Best Regards,
Sam Estabrook

Samuel Estabrook | Haiti GIS Analyst | International Services | American Red 
Cross
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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread thatwoodb
I'm all for it. I've had to create my own system to keep myself
organized/oriented within a task, but Noah's grid suggestion is far
better and is something I've been wishing was available since I began
mapping.
On 11/3/2014 at 8:08 AM, noah ahles  wrote:Hi Everyone,
I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont. We
digitize as the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion that
I think could increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a grid
over each tile that could guide the user through editing, it would
stop them from overlapping areas and increase accuracy of scanning. We
do that here and it significantly improves performance. 
Here is an example from one of our projects. I start at the yellow
circle in the upper left and scan across and down, across and down
etc. then end at the blue circle. There are multiple routes that could
guide you through the tile; some people prefer going down each column
instead of across the rows.

 This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it just
helps the user better organize their scanning route when looking
through the imagery. I think this would be a nice function to be added
to the ID editor that could be toggled on and off (maybe some people
won't like it or a line could obstruct a feature).
Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday,
November 9th 10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is interested:
http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/
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[HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread Ray Kiddy

Hello -

This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT tasks.

As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I bother
with this?

I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could also
just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it to the
changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?

If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at all
of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source value.

So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
time? What is the level of diligence expected here?

thanx - ray

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Re: [HOT] iOS OSM offline app recommendation for deployment

2014-11-03 Thread Sander Deryckere
I don't use iOS, but the iOS page on our wiki also lists a lot of apps (
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/IOS) though it might be outdated in some
places.

NavFree (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Navfree) is an app many like to
use. However, it seems to only offer richer countries (though an
organisation like the Red Cross might be able to convince them).

Skobbler (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Skobbler_Navigation) is also a
decent option.

Regards,
Sander

2014-11-03 18:56 GMT+01:00 Estabrook, Samuel H. 
samuel.estabr...@redcross.org:

  Hi Everyone,



 I work on the American Red Cross Geospatial team and we are currently
 preparing for a personnel deployment to Ebola-stricken West Africa. We
 typically provide a tablet with offline maps for each team member
 deploying, and have had success with OsmAnd for Android-based tablets. I’m
 looking for a similar application on iOS that allows for offline storage of
 map tiles (specifically iOS 7 for an iPad mini). Can anyone suggest a free
 or paid app that provides this functionality? Thank you for your time.



 Best Regards,

 Sam Estabrook



 *Samuel Estabrook* | Haiti GIS Analyst | International Services | American
 Red Cross

 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006

 samuel.estabr...@redcross.org | cell: 703-346-7516 | skype:
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Re: [HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread Sander Deryckere
It's more logical to put it on the changeset.

Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone who
lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the object
has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in fact your edit
operation that has a source, not the object itself.

As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset (also
because it keeps the database a bit smaller).

When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to the
changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline source). In
iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the changeset, but you don't
get an option to give other sources (which is why many people still put a
source on the objects).

Regards,
Sander

2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org:


 Hello -

 This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT tasks.

 As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
 something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
 road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I bother
 with this?

 I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could also
 just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it to the
 changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?

 If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
 that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at all
 of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source value.

 So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
 time? What is the level of diligence expected here?

 thanx - ray

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Re: [HOT] iOS OSM offline app recommendation for deployment

2014-11-03 Thread Erik Walthinsen

On 11/03/2014 09:56 AM, Estabrook, Samuel H. wrote:

I work on the American Red Cross Geospatial team and we are currently
preparing for a personnel deployment to Ebola-stricken West Africa. We
typically provide a tablet with offline maps for each team member
deploying, and have had success with OsmAnd for Android-based tablets.
I’m looking for a similar application on iOS that allows for offline
storage of map tiles (specifically iOS 7 for an iPad mini). Can anyone
suggest a free or paid app that provides this functionality? Thank you
for your time.


I use Pocket Earth Pro.  They do some kind of compression to the maps on 
a semi-regular basis, I suspect they could be convinced to run their 
updates for HOT countries more regularly.



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Re: [HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread Ray Kiddy
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:51:52 +0100
Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's more logical to put it on the changeset.
 
 Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone
 who lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the
 object has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in
 fact your edit operation that has a source, not the object itself.

I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an
object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source?
Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that
were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea
how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand.

 As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset
 (also because it keeps the database a bit smaller).

 When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to
 the changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline
 source). In iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the
 changeset, but you don't get an option to give other sources (which
 is why many people still put a source on the objects).

So I understand this to mean that if you are putting in an object from
the imagery in front of you, you do not need to do anything else. I am
not seeing that iD is attaching this anywhere but I may not be looking
in the right place. But as long as the database sees it, I do not need
to.

Take away point, I do not need to set the source 100 times and I am
good with that.

cheers - ray

 Regards,
 Sander
 
 2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org:
 
 
  Hello -
 
  This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT
  tasks.
 
  As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
  something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
  road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I
  bother with this?
 
  I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could
  also just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it
  to the changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?
 
  If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
  that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at
  all of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source
  value.
 
  So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
  time? What is the level of diligence expected here?
 
  thanx - ray
 
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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Charlotte Wolter


I think this is a great suggestion.
One of the most challenging things about 
the HOT mapping is keeping track of where I am 
and where I have been within each square.
I think it might be helpful to number 
the grid squares, such as the numbering system 
the USGS did for the old paper maps. They used an 
8-by-8 grid that started with a top left corner 
labeled A1 and ended with the bottom right corner 
labeled H8. Grid squares in between went A2, A3, A4H6, H7, H8.
I'm not saying that's the system to use, 
but something simple and obvious that helps you 
know where you are within each task would be helpful.


Charlotte


At 08:18 AM 11/3/2014, you wrote:
This is a duplicate but it looks like my image 
did not load properly on the last email. I attached it to this email.


Hi Everyone,

I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the 
University of Vermont. We digitize as the bulk 
of our workload here and I had a suggestion that 
I think could increase the efficiency of edits. 
If there was a grid over each tile that could 
guide the user through editing, it would stop 
them from overlapping areas and increase 
accuracy of scanning. We do that here and it 
significantly improves performance.Â


Attached is an example from one of our projects. 
I start at the yellow circle in the upper left 
and scan across and down, across and down etc. 
then end at the blue circle. There are multiple 
routes that could guide you through the tile; 
some people prefer going down each column instead of across the rows.


This does not actually split the tile into 
multiple tasks, it just helps the user better 
organize their scanning route when looking 
through the imagery. I think this would be a 
nice function to be added to the ID editor that 
could be toggled on and off (maybe some people 
won't like it or a line could obstruct a feature).


Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in 
Burlington, VT on Sunday, November 9th 10am-4pm. 
Here is the event page if anyone is interested:Â 
http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/


Best,

Noah Ahles
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[HOT] introduction

2014-11-03 Thread Theresa Clary
Hi Kate,
Please allow me to introduce myself. Alex Chaucer at Skidmore referred me to 
you. I am here in Seattle getting ready to do a workshop on OpenStreetMap - 
humanitarian mapping. As you may have learned along the way, I have been giving 
workshops to try to increase the mapping contributors to the H.O.T. At one 
point it I thought you were in located in Portland, and if still there, I am 
reaching out to you now because I am in Seattle. 

So all said and done, somehow I would like to meet you via phone or in person. 
I am particularly interested in discussing your ideas on how you might assist 
me in getting some funding to continue giving the workshops, which at this 
point I am paying for myself. This week I will be giving two workshops in 
Seattle. Please feel free to let others know. And, I look forward to meeting 
you.

Sincerely, 
Theresa Clary 413.281.6169
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2024939753_ebolamapsxml.html
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Re: [HOT] iOS OSM offline app recommendation for deployment

2014-11-03 Thread John White
Hi
I would give Skobbler a try. Their app uses OSM and the latest vector
mapping technology so their maps are really small downloads (The whole of
South Africa is only about 29mb).
https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/gps-navigation-by-scout-sat/id329340711?mt=8

Regards
John

On 3 November 2014 19:56, Estabrook, Samuel H. 
samuel.estabr...@redcross.org wrote:

  Hi Everyone,



 I work on the American Red Cross Geospatial team and we are currently
 preparing for a personnel deployment to Ebola-stricken West Africa. We
 typically provide a tablet with offline maps for each team member
 deploying, and have had success with OsmAnd for Android-based tablets. I’m
 looking for a similar application on iOS that allows for offline storage of
 map tiles (specifically iOS 7 for an iPad mini). Can anyone suggest a free
 or paid app that provides this functionality? Thank you for your time.



 Best Regards,

 Sam Estabrook



 *Samuel Estabrook* | Haiti GIS Analyst | International Services | American
 Red Cross

 2025 E Street NW, Washington, DC 20006

 samuel.estabr...@redcross.org | cell: 703-346-7516 | skype:
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[HOT] International Conference of CrisisMappers (ICCM) and HOT Casual meetup

2014-11-03 Thread Kristen Egermeier
Good Afternoon,
Here is the reservation for Friday for the casual meetup:
Little Town - Union Square on Friday, November 7, 2014 at 6:30 PM for 10

Restaurant Info:
Little Town - Union Square
https://secure.opentable.com/little-town-union-square?kc=1nw=1
118 East 15th Street
New York, NY 10003
(212) 677-630
0
Thank you,
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[HOT] Volunteer to Speak About HOT at Missing Maps Mapathon in DC on Friday

2014-11-03 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi All,

There is a Missing Maps(1) mapathon at the American Red Cross on Friday(2).
Is anyone available to give a quit introduction to HOT at the event. Most
people are heading to the Crisis Mappers Conference or State of the Map and
are unavailable.

Thanks,

-Kate

(1) http://www.missingmaps.org/
(2)
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Re: [HOT] Tile Navigation Suggestion

2014-11-03 Thread Pete Masters
Great idea. I was wishing for that at the weekend!

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 6:14 PM, thatwo...@hushmail.com wrote:

 I'm all for it. I've had to create my own system to keep myself
 organized/oriented within a task, but Noah's grid suggestion is far better
 and is something I've been wishing was available since I began mapping.





 On 11/3/2014 at 8:08 AM, noah ahles noah.ah...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,

 I work at the Spatial Analysis Lab at the University of Vermont. We
 digitize as the bulk of our workload here and I had a suggestion that I
 think could increase the efficiency of edits. If there was a grid over each
 tile that could guide the user through editing, it would stop them from
 overlapping areas and increase accuracy of scanning. We do that here and it
 significantly improves performance.

 Here is an example from one of our projects. I start at the yellow circle
 in the upper left and scan across and down, across and down etc. then end
 at the blue circle. There are multiple routes that could guide you through
 the tile; some people prefer going down each column instead of across the
 rows.



 This does not actually split the tile into multiple tasks, it just helps
 the user better organize their scanning route when looking through the
 imagery. I think this would be a nice function to be added to the ID editor
 that could be toggled on and off (maybe some people won't like it or a line
 could obstruct a feature).

 Also, I am hosting another Mapathon in Burlington, VT on Sunday, November
 9th 10am-4pm. Here is the event page if anyone is interested:
 http://osmebolaoutbreak.splashthat.com/

 Best,

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Re: [HOT] Volunteer to Speak About HOT at Missing Maps Mapathon in DC on Friday

2014-11-03 Thread Andrew Buck
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I would be able to speak via skype, which I have done for a few
mapathons already, but I won't be there in person.

If this sounds reasonable, send me the time you would like me to speak
so I can add it to my calendar.

- -AndrewBuck

On 11/03/2014 03:51 PM, Kate Chapman wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 There is a Missing Maps(1) mapathon at the American Red Cross on
 Friday(2). Is anyone available to give a quit introduction to HOT
 at the event. Most people are heading to the Crisis Mappers
 Conference or State of the Map and are unavailable.
 
 Thanks,
 
 -Kate
 
 (1) http://www.missingmaps.org/ (2) 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Missing_Maps_Washington_DC_Launch_Party

 
 
 
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[HOT] Project update links not visible anymore in the HOT's project pages

2014-11-03 Thread maning sambale
It used to be visible as links in each of HOT's project page the
project updates but I don't see it anymore.
For example: 
http://hot.openstreetmap.org/projects/osm_community_mapping_for_flood_preparedness_in_malawi

Where we had a weekly updates like this:
http://hot.openstreetmap.org/updates/2014-09-14_fieldwork_in_nsanje_district_weeks_6_7

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Re: [HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread Pat Tressel
There was another thread relating to this a short while ago, so there's
more relevant discussion there.

Two notes:

The source tag can hold other info besides imagery, e.g. it could tell who
or what agency provided some item of information.  The iD imagery_used tag
is more specific.  But historically, source has been used for imagery too.

With respect to whether the source / imagery_used tag should go on features
or changeset:  I raised this question at the end of the previous thread on
this subject.  We don't want to lose the fact that something was traced
with use of a particular set of imagery if someone edits a feature.  Let's
take one specific case:  Say that someone enters a feature (say it's one
point, just to be clear) using one set of imagery, and the imagery_used tag
gets assigned to the changeset.  If someone later shifts that point, while
using a different set of imagery, is it still possible to get back to the
original changeset from the modified point?

-- Pat

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org wrote:

 On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:51:52 +0100
 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's more logical to put it on the changeset.
 
  Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone
  who lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the
  object has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in
  fact your edit operation that has a source, not the object itself.

 I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an
 object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source?
 Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that
 were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea
 how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand.

  As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset
  (also because it keeps the database a bit smaller).

  When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to
  the changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline
  source). In iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the
  changeset, but you don't get an option to give other sources (which
  is why many people still put a source on the objects).

 So I understand this to mean that if you are putting in an object from
 the imagery in front of you, you do not need to do anything else. I am
 not seeing that iD is attaching this anywhere but I may not be looking
 in the right place. But as long as the database sees it, I do not need
 to.

 Take away point, I do not need to set the source 100 times and I am
 good with that.

 cheers - ray

  Regards,
  Sander
 
  2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org:
 
  
   Hello -
  
   This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT
   tasks.
  
   As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
   something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
   road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I
   bother with this?
  
   I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could
   also just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it
   to the changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?
  
   If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
   that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at
   all of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source
   value.
  
   So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
   time? What is the level of diligence expected here?
  
   thanx - ray
  
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Re: [HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread john whelan
To take this slightly further in JOSM when you upload it takes the title of
the imagery so where I'm working its DigitalGlobe’s WorldView-2 however I
have noticed some mapping being done that is consistently out compared to
the DigitalGlobe imagery but matches up exactly with the available Bing
imagery.

Some Satellite imagery is more accurate than others, Kevin Bullock
http://stateofthemap.us/session/mapping-the-world-in-raster/ 15 mins in for
90 seconds covers it nicely.

Perhaps some automated tool could check the change sets for HOT uploading
to just verify the most accurate image is being used and suggest the most
accurate source back to the mapper if it isn't.

Thanks John



On 3 November 2014 14:01, Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org wrote:

 On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:51:52 +0100
 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com wrote:

  It's more logical to put it on the changeset.
 
  Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone
  who lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the
  object has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in
  fact your edit operation that has a source, not the object itself.

 I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an
 object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source?
 Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that
 were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea
 how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand.

  As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset
  (also because it keeps the database a bit smaller).

  When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to
  the changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline
  source). In iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the
  changeset, but you don't get an option to give other sources (which
  is why many people still put a source on the objects).

 So I understand this to mean that if you are putting in an object from
 the imagery in front of you, you do not need to do anything else. I am
 not seeing that iD is attaching this anywhere but I may not be looking
 in the right place. But as long as the database sees it, I do not need
 to.

 Take away point, I do not need to set the source 100 times and I am
 good with that.

 cheers - ray

  Regards,
  Sander
 
  2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy r...@ganymede.org:
 
  
   Hello -
  
   This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT
   tasks.
  
   As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
   something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
   road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I
   bother with this?
  
   I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could
   also just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it
   to the changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?
  
   If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
   that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at
   all of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source
   value.
  
   So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
   time? What is the level of diligence expected here?
  
   thanx - ray
  
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Re: [HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread Blake Girardot



On 11/3/2014 2:01 PM, Ray Kiddy wrote:


I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an
object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source?
Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that
were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea
how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand.


This can be done for the most part with tags that look like this for 
example:


source=Bing
source:alt_name=GNS
source:name=survey
etc

If you want to list a specific source for some bit of the object just 
use source:x=value format.


As you mention, this is more on objects than changesets, but it could 
apply to changesets if you wanted to use it that way and it was accurate.


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Re: [HOT] bother adding source=Whatever to each object?

2014-11-03 Thread Andy Anderson
Hi, Pat,

Looking at OSM using the iD editor, when I type in “image” the only relevant 
tags that pop up are “image”,  “source:imagery”, and “source_type_imagery”; 
“imagery_used” is not an option, I have to type it in explicitly. Does this 
mean it’s not a very commonly used tag (?).

It would be much better if this were automatic, in any case. Even with the 
easy-to-use Source button present, it’s a bit of a bother; it would be even 
more so if this type has to be typed or menued in every time. Theoretically one 
could switch background imagery even in the middle of an edit, which might 
warrant multiple tags, but that would probably be rare.

— Andy

On Nov 3, 2014, at 6:21 PM, Pat Tressel 
ptres...@myuw.netmailto:ptres...@myuw.net wrote:

There was another thread relating to this a short while ago, so there's more 
relevant discussion there.

Two notes:

The source tag can hold other info besides imagery, e.g. it could tell who or 
what agency provided some item of information.  The iD imagery_used tag is more 
specific.  But historically, source has been used for imagery too.

With respect to whether the source / imagery_used tag should go on features or 
changeset:  I raised this question at the end of the previous thread on this 
subject.  We don't want to lose the fact that something was traced with use of 
a particular set of imagery if someone edits a feature.  Let's take one 
specific case:  Say that someone enters a feature (say it's one point, just to 
be clear) using one set of imagery, and the imagery_used tag gets assigned to 
the changeset.  If someone later shifts that point, while using a different set 
of imagery, is it still possible to get back to the original changeset from the 
modified point?

-- Pat

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Ray Kiddy 
r...@ganymede.orgmailto:r...@ganymede.org wrote:
On Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:51:52 +0100
Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.commailto:sander...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's more logical to put it on the changeset.

 Like when you draw a building, and add source=bing. But then someone
 who lives there gives it a name, and forgets to alter the source, the
 object has data that can't be derived from the source. So it's in
 fact your edit operation that has a source, not the object itself.

I had wondered about this when I saw multiple source values on an
object. I mean, which other attributes came from which source?
Technically the source should map to the subset of the attributes that
were observed from that source, but in real life, I would have no idea
how that could be presented in a way anyone would understand.

 As such, source=Bing is by many mappers preferred on the changeset
 (also because it keeps the database a bit smaller).

 When you edit with JOSM, you can add the source manually as a tag to
 the changeset (which is handy if your source is a survey or offline
 source). In iD, it automatically logs the imagery used in the
 changeset, but you don't get an option to give other sources (which
 is why many people still put a source on the objects).

So I understand this to mean that if you are putting in an object from
the imagery in front of you, you do not need to do anything else. I am
not seeing that iD is attaching this anywhere but I may not be looking
in the right place. But as long as the database sees it, I do not need
to.

Take away point, I do not need to set the source 100 times and I am
good with that.

cheers - ray

 Regards,
 Sander

 2014-11-03 19:41 GMT+01:00 Ray Kiddy 
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  Hello -
 
  This is probably a somewhat basic question about editing for HOT
  tasks.
 
  As I have been editing in various HOT tasks, I have been adding
  something like source=Bing (where that is the imagery) onto every
  road, every building, every ... everything that I create. Need I
  bother with this?
 
  I have seen in (perhaps just some tasks') instructions that I could
  also just put this on the changeset comment. So I can just add it
  to the changeset once instead of adding it to the object 100 times?
 
  If it could be put on the changeset comment and not on every object,
  that would be convenient. It would also explain why, when I look at
  all of the objects others have created, I hardly ever see a source
  value.
 
  So, am I doing too much work by re-entering the source value every
  time? What is the level of diligence expected here?
 
  thanx - ray
 
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[HOT] GIS Meetup

2014-11-03 Thread Warren Roberts
Good afternoon,

I am exploring some ideas for a meetup on our campus here in Los Angeles.
Considering a meetup on working with OSM on some urgent needs that I can
find posted at the tasking manager.  Any suggestions?  We have a variety of
students in the graduate and undergraduate program in information
technology, many with GIS and some with programming experience.

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[HOT] Communications Work Group Meeting

2014-11-03 Thread Kristen Egermeier (via Doodle)
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Re: [HOT] unknown structures are buildings?

2014-11-03 Thread maning sambale
To me, it looks like building=construction (the dividing walls are
visible).  Nearly the same as what I've seen on the ground in Malawi,
Africa.
If you're unsure, just tag it as building=yes.

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 Does anyone have an idea if these are walls for building (without roof) ..
 there are many and in Sierra Leone.  Wanted to identify them ether to
 digitize them as buildings.  Thanks

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Re: [HOT] unknown structures are buildings?

2014-11-03 Thread Pierre Béland

Hi Warren




Yes these represent construction buildings at the time the image was taken. But 
sometimes, images can be a few years old and we dont know the actual status of 
the building.



I was last year in Limonade, Haiti where I saw many of these buildings. A 
family was living in the first floor. And you would see such structures for an 
eventual second floor. These structures were sometimes built years before.





They can be tagged building=yes or building=construction. But which one should 
we prefer? I myself prefer to tag as building=yes.


 
Pierre 

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Re: [HOT] GIS Meetup

2014-11-03 Thread Nicholas Doiron
Hi Warren,

There is a new group of mapping meetups called Maptime, with strong ties to
OpenStreetMap and open source development. There have been some Tasking
Manager sessions in other cities. You can read more about it at
http://maptime.io and contact the Maptime for Los Angeles at
https://twitter.com/maptimela

-- Nick Doiron

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Warren Roberts gisteac...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good afternoon,

 I am exploring some ideas for a meetup on our campus here in Los Angeles.
 Considering a meetup on working with OSM on some urgent needs that I can
 find posted at the tasking manager.  Any suggestions?  We have a variety of
 students in the graduate and undergraduate program in information
 technology, many with GIS and some with programming experience.

 [image: --]

 Warren Roberts
 [image: http://]
 about.me/gisteacher
 http://about.me/gisteacher(typos intensional)
 http://about.me/gisteacher
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Re: [HOT] GIS Meetup

2014-11-03 Thread Pat Tressel
Warren --

I am exploring some ideas for a meetup on our campus here in Los Angeles.
 Considering a meetup on working with OSM on some urgent needs that I can
 find posted at the tasking manager.  Any suggestions?  We have a variety of
 students in the graduate and undergraduate program in information
 technology, many with GIS and some with programming experience.


Once suggestion is to connect with an existing Meetup group, if there is
one -- it gets you a pool of already-interested people.  A search on
Meetup.com did not find an OpenStreetMap Meetup group in LA, but there is a
Maptime.io group:
http://www.meetup.com/MaptimeLA/
I was unfamiliar with this organization -- it intends to be a more
inclusive / diverse gateway to the mapping community.  They do use OSM.

Since you have actual GIS folks, and programmers, you might look at things
other than the actual mapping tasks.  I'm on a couple of the GIS
coordination chats for ebola response, and there may be some useful work
around uploading treatment center data (and verifying that it is
license-compatible...), and also querying and extracting data.  There are a
couple of discussions on the HOT list about imagery tags and about
subtasks of tasking manager squares.  OTOH, if these folks have never
used OSM, it might be worth a first session just to get set up and start
mapping.  Writing a JOSM plugin or iD feature would likely go better after
having used JOSM or iD.  ;-)

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Re: [HOT] unknown structures are buildings?

2014-11-03 Thread john whelan
I suspect they are fenced areas for cattle or cattle pens.  In Cameroon
I've been using the JOSM building tool to map them then changing the tags
to barrier=wall.  Contact with a mapper on the ground would help enormously
with these sort of structures.

Cheerio John

On 3 November 2014 19:41, Warren Roberts gisteac...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does anyone have an idea if these are walls for building (without roof) ..
 there are many and in Sierra Leone.  Wanted to identify them ether to
 digitize them as buildings.  Thanks

 [image: --]

 Warren Roberts
 [image: http://]
 about.me/gisteacher
 http://about.me/gisteacher(typos intensional)
 http://about.me/gisteacher
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Re: [HOT] introduction

2014-11-03 Thread Pat Tressel
Hi, Theresa!

If you're still in Seattle on Saturday, let me invite you to our Saturday
Mapternoon ;-) meetup

http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Seattle/events/214692362/

where, coincidentally, we'll be doing HOT training (mixed in with other
things).  (Or maybe not coincidentally, given the ebola mapping needs.)

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