Re: [HOT] Date of a mapped feature?
Nicholas and Andre -- Chris is asking about the date of the *imagery* used for tracing, not the date of the traced elements. All -- He makes an excellent point. If imagery is several years old, then features being traced may well have changed, with the likelihood being higher for more ephemeral human-made structures. For this purpose, would be nice if imagery sets had metadata that included a creation date, but I'm looking at the TMS spec, and don't see it, or any field that could be used for it: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Tile_Map_Service_Specification -- Pat ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Data Quality and strange key:name like : name=building=yes ( count=341 )
Imre has cleared up my confusion, so I want to make sure no-one was confused by my confusion. ;-) The bad tag is the one with the equals sign in the value: name=building=yes. As Pierre says, good catch! The table of other tags is from taginfo, and is just there for comparison of the above strange tag, with tags that are already in use. Sorry! -- Pat ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps?
Hey Felix, The simplest failsafe tool that comes to mind that use the map data we have put together is fieldpapers: http://fieldpapers.org You can basically generate A4 sized pdfs of maps for an area of interest. Field workers can use this to navigate on the ground, and also collect additional information on the paper including corrections. These prints can later be scanned and used as a reference by mappers online to update the map data back on openstreetmap http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=10/28.0029/84.6263 which will become available to all other map users.. On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Felix Fiedler ffit...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi there! First of all, great job you're doing with your project! I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is short for us. I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact information to villages etc. Whilst we where trying to find options to share this information to other organisations aswell for people out in the field, we found the HOT project. - So if anyone could be so kind and tell me if this project is an option for our purposes. - Do you know other tools that might be interesting for us, for output aswell for gathering information in an easy way from the individuals beeing in the field or coming back from there. Thanks a lot for you help! Felix ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Date of a mapped feature?
Hello, Thanks for your answers. Based on the answers I got, I think we should distinguish between 3 different related issues: - *ISSUE 1:* Get the date if the imagery provides the information (applies e.g. for Bing, not for Mapbox) -- Explain how to do this in iD, Potlatch, JOSM or without editor - *ISSUE 2:* Get the date if the imagery does not provide the information (e.g. for MapBox) -- Ask the data provider to add this information - *ISSUE 3:* In case the date of the imagery is provided, deal with the zoom level issue. Further details/questions to each issue: *ISSUE 1: **Get the date if the imagery provides the information* I will try to summarise, based on the answers you sent to my post, how to find out, given a specific feature (for instance way 58754640) the date of the most recent imagery (in this case Bing) which was used to draw/validate this feature. Actually, this describes how to reach the changeset page for the feature, but from there I still don't know how to get the information I am looking for. Could you correct/complete this? Notice that I don't use Potlatch, so I will limit this post to A) nothing, B) iD editor and C) JOSM. _A) Nothing (directly in openstreetmap.org)_ 1) In openstreetmap.org, go to the relevant location -- https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/27.70641/85.29392 2) Click on Layers (right sidebar) then Map data -- each feature gets a blue line (for ways) or circle (for nodes) around it 3) Click on the relevant feature (here way 58754640) -- opens https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/58754640#map=17/27.70641/85.29446layers=D 4) Click on View history (link at the bottom of the left sidebar) -- opens https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/58754640/history I can see it was created 5 years ago and last updated 4 months ago. Then I click on the latest changeset (which I could have done directly in step 3) -- opens https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/28154865 In the tags I can read created_by:iD 1.6.2 and imagery_used: Bing. But how can I get the date of the Bing image which was used?? _B) Using iD editor _ 1) Click on the feature 2) Click on View on OpenStreetMap.org in the bottom left -- opens https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/58754640 This brings me to the same step as A3 above. So the same question applies. _C) Using JOSM_ 1) Click on Download, I select Bounding Box with e.g. (27.70/27.71 - 85.29/85.30) 2) Click on the way I am interested in (way 58754640) 3) Click on View-History, which opens the window History for way 58754640 Again, I get the same information as in step A4 above. So is it the right way to go and how to find the date of the imagery then? *ISSUE 2: **Get the date if the imagery does not provide the information (e.g. for MapBox) * Since MapBox does not provide the date information, would it be possible to ask MapBox to add this? What would be the way to go to do this request? *ISSUE 3: **In case the date of the imagery is provided, deal with the zoom level issue * To be honest, I did not really understand the problem here. What I am asking is the latest date of a single feature, not of an overall image or area. This is an information I would expect to find in the changeset of a feature or elsewhere with the data associated to a feature. Which is not dependent of the zoom level, right? Thanks a lot for your help! Chris On 02/05/2015 13:29, Pat Tressel wrote: Nicholas and Andre -- Chris is asking about the date of the *imagery* used for tracing, not the date of the traced elements. All -- He makes an excellent point. If imagery is several years old, then features being traced may well have changed, with the likelihood being higher for more ephemeral human-made structures. For this purpose, would be nice if imagery sets had metadata that included a creation date, but I'm looking at the TMS spec, and don't see it, or any field that could be used for it: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Tile_Map_Service_Specification -- Pat ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps?
Hi Felix, Kathmandu Living Labs are doing a great job to support the various organizations directly from Kathmandu. They prepare various products. See http://kathmandulivinglabs.github.io/quake-maps/ You will find a more general description on our wiki of this event http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake about the various products offered by the OSM community. OSMand let's have a map + navigation on smartphone or tablet and do not require network connection. I coordinate this OSM response from abroad with the Kathmandu Living lab folks. We are also interested about various informations including road conditions. Do not hesitate to contact me directly also. regard Pierre De : Felix Fiedler ffit...@yahoo.de À : Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 9h38 Objet : Re: [HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps? Solved! Thanks everybody for the quick responses! Your links are exactely what we were searching for and will be extremly helpful for our work! We (karmaflights.org Paddle Nepal) will soon get in touch with you guys at Kathmandu Living Labs. Fantastic work you're doing, keep in rolling!Best regards from Pokhara,Felix Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com schrieb am 18:21 Samstag, 2.Mai 2015: Hey Felix,The simplest failsafe tool that comes to mind that use the map data we have put together is fieldpapers: http://fieldpapers.org You can basically generate A4 sized pdfs of maps for an area of interest. Field workers can use this to navigate on the ground, and also collect additional information on the paper including corrections. These prints can later be scanned and used as a reference by mappers online to update the map data back on openstreetmap which will become available to all other map users.. On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Felix Fiedler ffit...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi there! First of all, great job you're doing with your project! I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is short for us.I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact information to villages etc.Whilst we where trying to find options to share this information to other organisations aswell for people out in the field, we found the HOT project. - So if anyone could be so kind and tell me if this project is an option for our purposes.- Do you know other tools that might be interesting for us, for output aswell for gathering information in an easy way from the individuals beeing in the field or coming back from there. Thanks a lot for you help! Felix ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Pierre, Am 02.05.2015 um 15:58 schrieb Pierre Béland: badly I added an image to the Task but it does not appear. I have asked Pierre Giraud our TM expert if he can fix this. Link to the image :https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/f/f7/Josm_nepal_aeroway_helipad.png Oh thanks a lot. Another place for it might be in the tracing guides on github. But I do not know if that's not too specific there. Otherwise I guess I could create a pull request. Michael ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps?
Hi Felix, I am there sure there are others on this list much more qualified than me to help you record, display and share this data. Could you perhaps let us know exactly what kind of data it is and in what format it is? My guess is that some of the data would fit in directly with our systems and be very valuable (geo located facilities, camps, road status, etc) and some of it would be better as a separate layer in a different system with our map as the underlying base layer. Off the top of my head it sounds like maybe http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/ might be a good place for the data that is more informational and is very functional. I look forward to speaking with you further. Please contact me off list about how you can enter the road status data or how you might pass it to us to enter and maybe some of that visually goes into the umap I listed above. I believe umap has an option for a private map, but most of them are open so maybe some of the contact info would not be a good fit. Anyway, just an option, like I said, others probably have some better suggestions. Cheers, Blake On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Felix Fiedler ffit...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi there! First of all, great job you're doing with your project! I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is short for us. I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact information to villages etc. Whilst we where trying to find options to share this information to other organisations aswell for people out in the field, we found the HOT project. - So if anyone could be so kind and tell me if this project is an option for our purposes. - Do you know other tools that might be interesting for us, for output aswell for gathering information in an easy way from the individuals beeing in the field or coming back from there. Thanks a lot for you help! Felix ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Blake Girardot Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Volunteer ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
This photo gives a good idea of what these villages may look like now, and a possible landing area in the upper right of the photo. http://cdn.cctv-america.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/000_TS-Del6410804.jpg On 2 May 2015 at 16:30, Dan Marsh danrok.g...@gmail.com wrote: Useful photos, thanks! On 2 May 2015 at 16:25, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Dan Marsh http://www.dm-photographics.com -- Dan Marsh http://www.dm-photographics.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps?
Hi there! First of all, great job you're doing with your project! I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is short for us.I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact information to villages etc.Whilst we where trying to find options to share this information to other organisations aswell for people out in the field, we found the HOT project. - So if anyone could be so kind and tell me if this project is an option for our purposes.- Do you know other tools that might be interesting for us, for output aswell for gathering information in an easy way from the individuals beeing in the field or coming back from there. Thanks a lot for you help! Felix ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Latest PBF?
Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to create the OSMAnd file from it http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset at Geofabrik at most. 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com: Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- [image: http://www.dogodigi.net] http://www.dogodigi.net *Milo van der Linden* web: dogodigi http://www.dogodigi.net tel: +31-6-16598808 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Useful photos, thanks! On 2 May 2015 at 16:25, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Dan Marsh http://www.dm-photographics.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps?
Solved! Thanks everybody for the quick responses! Your links are exactely what we were searching for and will be extremly helpful for our work! We (karmaflights.org Paddle Nepal) will soon get in touch with you guys at Kathmandu Living Labs. Fantastic work you're doing, keep in rolling!Best regards from Pokhara,Felix Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com schrieb am 18:21 Samstag, 2.Mai 2015: Hey Felix,The simplest failsafe tool that comes to mind that use the map data we have put together is fieldpapers: http://fieldpapers.org You can basically generate A4 sized pdfs of maps for an area of interest. Field workers can use this to navigate on the ground, and also collect additional information on the paper including corrections. These prints can later be scanned and used as a reference by mappers online to update the map data back on openstreetmap which will become available to all other map users.. On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Felix Fiedler ffit...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi there! First of all, great job you're doing with your project! I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is short for us.I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact information to villages etc.Whilst we where trying to find options to share this information to other organisations aswell for people out in the field, we found the HOT project. - So if anyone could be so kind and tell me if this project is an option for our purposes.- Do you know other tools that might be interesting for us, for output aswell for gathering information in an easy way from the individuals beeing in the field or coming back from there. Thanks a lot for you help! Felix ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] R: Fwd: Fw: Helping Nepal with mapping action
Dear colleagues I’m trying to locate the organizers (Maria Brovelli, Marco Minghini and Giovanna Venuti) of the Como Geo Lab event to harness experience and training material in Italian to replicate an event here in Trento, Italy I have location and IT infrastructure ready at a leading GIS IT company willing to host Any other hot contributors in the Verona Trento Bolzano area that is willing to help with the training and facilitation of the new contributors Please contact me tomaso.bert...@gmail.com 3460941392 All the Best Tomaso Bertoli Da: Nama Budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com] Inviato: sabato 2 maggio 2015 02:03 A: hot Oggetto: [HOT] Fwd: Fw: Helping Nepal with mapping action Can someone tell them that mapping needs to be done with little care, students need to be provided proper guidelines, and point them to right resources. Nama -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven D. Prager mailto:sdpra...@uwyo.edu sdpra...@uwyo.edu Date: Fri, May 1, 2015 at 7:54 AM Subject: Fw: Helping Nepal with mapping action To: ucgis-all mailto:a...@listserve.ucgis.org a...@listserve.ucgis.org Colleagues, On behalf of Geo for All http://www.geoforall.org/ http://www.geoforall.org/ ,i request you all to inform your colleagues and students to contribute in the crisis mapping action launched by the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team. This will also help teach the students also the real essence of education and humanity and sharing knowledge and expertise to help each other in times of need. We thank our colleagues (esp. Maria Brovelli, Marco Minghini and Giovanna Venuti) and students at GEO Lab in Como (which is one of the GeoForAll Labs) for also organising a mapping initiative to support the relief efforts. Details at http://www.polo-como.polimi.it/news/dettaglio-della-news/article/165/helping-nepal-with-a-mapping-action-at-como-campus-967/ The scale of the efforts needed is huge, so more volunteers esp. with FOSS experience in automatic image classification and feature extraction and wish to contribute to the mapping response for the Nepal earthquake are needed . Details at http://opensourcegeospatial.icaci.org/2015/04/mapping-response-contributions-for-nepal/ There are many tasks that need to be accomplished at http://tasks.hotosm.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2015_Nepal_earthquake Thanks again for all of you for your support and help with this. Best wishes, Suchith --- You are currently subscribed to all as: namabudhath...@gmail.com. To unsubscribe click here: http://listserve.ucgis.org/u?id=91608144.1e440f19b012cbf5de388b2db1412b7a http://listserve.ucgis.org/u?id=91608144.1e440f19b012cbf5de388b2db1412b7an=Tl=allo=2799721 n=Tl=allo=2799721 or send a blank email to leave-2799721-91608144.1e440f19b012cbf5de388b2db1412...@listserve.ucgis.org -- Nama R. Budhathoki, Ph.D. Executive Director, Kathmandu Living Labs (www.kathmandulivinglabs.org) Cell: 977-9803571739 Office: 977-6205000 Dr Ing Tomaso Bertoli P.za Duomo, 30 38122 Trento - Italy Mobile: +39 346 09 41 392 E-mail: mailto:tomaso.bert...@biokw.it tomaso.bert...@gmail.com PEC: tomaso.bert...@ingpec.eu 1901 Albo Ingegneria dell'Informazione di Trento - Presidente Commissione Ingegneria dell'Informazione Le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio di posta elettronica sono riservate e confidenziali e ne e' vietata la diffusione in qualsiasi modo o forma. Qualora Lei non fosse la persona destinataria del presente messaggio, La invitiamo a non diffonderlo e ad eliminarlo, dandone gentilmente comunicazione al mittente. The information included in this e-mail and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the correct recipient, you are kindly requested to notify the sender immediately, to cancel it and not to disclose the contents to any other person. Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail-Mitteilung sind vertraulich und deren Verbreitung in jeglicher Art oder Form ist untersagt. Sollten Sie diese Nachricht irrtümlich erhalten haben, ersuchen wir Sie, sofort den Absender darüber zu informieren und die Mail zu löschen. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Urgent Request - Nepal Earthquake - What data can be shared on the maps?
Hi Felix, for your purposes, you should also look at http://quakemap.org for your purposes. The data that you are talking about seems to be of the nature that is more appropriate for this level of overlay data rather than for the OSM basemap itself. If you can let us know a local phone number to get in touch with you, we at Kathmandu Living Labs can call and figure out with you which of your data is appropriate for OSM, which of it is appropriate for quakemap.org. You can also get in touch with us at 01-620-5000 cheers, Prabhas Pokharel Fellow, Kathmandu Living Labs Read about our work here: http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/blog On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:01 PM Felix Fiedler ffit...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi there! First of all, great job you're doing with your project! I could not find the information about what the HOT-Map is capable and time is short for us. I'm here in Pokhara and close to a very busy NGO which got lots of information about state of help in villages, roads open or not, contact information to villages etc. Whilst we where trying to find options to share this information to other organisations aswell for people out in the field, we found the HOT project. - So if anyone could be so kind and tell me if this project is an option for our purposes. - Do you know other tools that might be interesting for us, for output aswell for gathering information in an easy way from the individuals beeing in the field or coming back from there. Thanks a lot for you help! Felix ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Michael, badly I added an image to the Task but it does not appear. I have asked Pierre Giraud our TM expert if he can fix this. Link to the image :https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/f/f7/Josm_nepal_aeroway_helipad.png Pierre De : Michael ohr...@gmail.com À : hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 8h57 Objet : Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #1024 landuse=brownfield + landuse=residential
I think a better aproach to this could be update previous polygon tags, from landuse=residential to landuse=brownfield and erase duplicated polygon. 2015-05-01 17:55 GMT-05:00 S Volk svo...@hotmail.com: Hi, please, one question: I'm tracing a landuse=brownfield poligon for recently disappeared homes (comparing DigitalGlobe 2015-04-29 with both Bing and MapGive / HIU april 2015 images, ) over a place where there was already a landuse=residential poligon (probably will be a common case). I ask: is it ok, doesn't it happen any kind of conflict for a landuse over another landuse, like conflict in rendering brownfield over residential, or any kind of conflict for identification? // Also, no sign of tents in the neigborhood of these demolished buildings, confirming reports that rescue haven't arrived yet to many distant place. // Thanks - Sérgio (user:SergioAJV) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
John we have to be careful not to use infos from imagery providers we dont have the license. Will let others comment more on this if they see any problem. For Windows, I use the following link to call JOSM with 1 gb memory. [java path]\javaw.exe -Xmx1024m -jar [josm path]\josm-latest.jar Pierre De : john o'l ol.john...@gmail.com À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com; Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com; HOT hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h18 Objet : Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas This seemed like a useful helicopter LZresource. http://www.careflite.org/wFirstResponders/landingzone.aspx So, with the best of intentions I'msure I've been breaking some rules... I've been using Google Earthwith vertical exaggeration cranked up as my 1st tool...looking for relatively level sites. Then I flip around through theirhistorical imagery option... then create a placemark I can use toidentify lat and long. I'm still a newb re OSM and just gotJOSM up and running yesterday, but my attempt to fix the limitedmemory issue was unsuccessful and it crashed again. I guess Iconsider these urgent enough to brashly offer a few more prospectivesites to anyone with the OSM chops to quickly see if they are helpfuland suitable. If this works, I'll happily do more... if unhelpful Iwill cease and desist – please advise. 5 prospective locations east ofIndrawati River and West of Bhotemanlang #1026probably tasks 45 and 46 any that withstand closer scrutiny would be tagged leisure = common 27.834 85.620 27.846 85.619 27.882 85.642 27.902 85.653 27.915 85.635cheers,John O'Leary On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: We did not have clear instructions on this. I then prefered to be conservative. Looking at the official helipads (aeroway=helipad) gives us some clue about what looks to be reasonnable. Pierre De : hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com À : Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com Cc : HOT hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 13h58 Objet : Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas Very versatile some of this helicopters! Based on the information gived from this pictures, maybe aeroway=helipad poligons radio could be less than 30 mts (task#1026); so increase probability for more aerial rescue areas? 2015-05-02 10:25 GMT-05:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Nepal Earthquake: Report from KLL Situation Room – Day 7 (May 2)
http://kathmandulivinglabs.org/blog/nepal-earthquake-report-from-kll-situation-room-day-7-may-2/ Today we have specially focused on quakemap.org deployment ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #Nepal - Bulk upload of admin boundaries - To revert?
Stephane, I will report to Nepal OSM community at the Katmndu Living Labs. Boundary infos are very important for these response. If you see any problems, please report to us with the object, changeset, but let us handle it, validate before taking any action. Regard. Pierre De : Stéphane Henriod s...@henriod.info À : HOT@openstreetmap.org HOT@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 12h41 Objet : [HOT] #Nepal - Bulk upload of admin boundaries - To revert? Hi While mapping task #1014 I found this admin boundary: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/341454201 Which appears to be a bulk upload with many tags that don't match the usual OSM schemes. Acording to the changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30616871 someone (4rch) has already contacted the mapper a few days ago. Just wanted to know if someone is already in touch to see if it is necessary to revert the changeset? Since I have never reverted a changeset myself, I would refrain from doing it. Cheers Stéphane -- Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux -- Albert Einstein Si les contacts avec les étrangers lui étaient permis, [le citoyen ordinaire] découvrirait que ce sont des créatures semblables à lui-même et que la plus grande partie de ce qu'on lui a raconté d'eux est fausse. Le monde fermé, scellé, dans lequel il vit, serait brisé, et la crainte, la haine, la certitude de son bon droit, desquelles dépend sa morale, pourraient disparaître -- George Orwell (1984) “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable. -- Clifton Fadiman Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
Hmmm, weird. Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it off mapcache though, so thanks! On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to create the OSMAnd file from it http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset at Geofabrik at most. 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com: Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- [image: http://www.dogodigi.net] http://www.dogodigi.net *Milo van der Linden* web: dogodigi http://www.dogodigi.net tel: +31-6-16598808 ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
Thanks for these updates. Will add this link in the wiki page to assure even more availability of data. - Alternate PFB file if any problem downloading from Geofabrik (one hour late vs Geofabrik). Pierre De : Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com À : Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h00 Objet : Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Hmmm, weird. Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it off mapcache though, so thanks! On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to create the OSMAnd file from it http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset at Geofabrik at most. 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com: Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- | | Milo van der Linden web: dogodigi tel: +31-6-16598808 | ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
This seemed like a useful helicopter LZ resource. http://www.careflite.org/wFirstResponders/landingzone.aspx So, with the best of intentions I'm sure I've been breaking some rules... I've been using Google Earth with vertical exaggeration cranked up as my 1st tool... looking for relatively level sites. Then I flip around through their historical imagery option... then create a placemark I can use to identify lat and long. I'm still a newb re OSM and just got JOSM up and running yesterday, but my attempt to fix the limited memory issue was unsuccessful and it crashed again. I guess I consider these urgent enough to brashly offer a few more prospective sites to anyone with the OSM chops to quickly see if they are helpful and suitable. If this works, I'll happily do more... if unhelpful I will cease and desist – please advise. 5 prospective locations east of Indrawati River and West of Bhotemanlang #1026 probably tasks 45 and 46 any that withstand closer scrutiny would be tagged leisure = common 27.834 85.620 27.846 85.619 27.882 85.642 27.902 85.653 27.915 85.635 cheers, John O'Leary On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: We did not have clear instructions on this. I then prefered to be conservative. Looking at the official helipads (aeroway=helipad) gives us some clue about what looks to be reasonnable. Pierre -- *De :* hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com *À :* Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com *Cc :* HOT hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Samedi 2 mai 2015 13h58 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas Very versatile some of this helicopters! Based on the information gived from this pictures, maybe aeroway=helipad poligons radio could be less than 30 mts (task#1026); so increase probability for more aerial rescue areas? 2015-05-02 10:25 GMT-05:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Dhaka tasks updated w new imagery
Hello Everyone, I know there's a lot of focus on Nepal right now. If there are any experienced editors who want to help out on another area, we could use some help getting parts of Dhaka, Bangladesh traced. The HIU just released some NextView imagery. The tracing is difficult due to the quality of the imagery (both NextView and Bing), and also the dense urban setting. *We need as many of the buildings and roads mapped as accurately as possible before mid-May* when there will be a training and field mapping with the Bangladesh Red Crescent to map for longer term disaster risk reduction projects. The field verification and data collection will be conducted using Field Papers http://fieldpapers.org/ and OpenMapKit https://github.com/AmericanRedCross/OpenMapKit. There are two areas of focus for the activities: http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/844 http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/845 Feel free to contact me with any questions. Thanks and all the best, Dan Joseph (danbjoseph) GIS Officer, International Services American Red Cross (daniel.jos...@redcross.org) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Mapping sessions at SF State University May 5
We are now on for a whole day of training and mapping at San Francisco state University. http://commons.sfsu.edu/event/humanitarian-mapping-activities-nepal We have three computer labs booked for this (capacity 40, 30, 70). I have 1 near-confirmed mapper and 1 in the process of confirming mapper for training (9AM to 12 PM). If you can come by and train, please let me know. Our goal is to get 5 to 6 campus people trained well, so we can repeat training and mapping in the next few days. Looking forward to a productive session on Tuesday. We should have many student volunteers as well! A big Thank you to you all for your awesome work. cheers, Sameer -- Sameer Verma, Ph.D. Professor, Information Systems San Francisco State University http://verma.sfsu.edu/ http://commons.sfsu.edu/ http://olpcsf.org/ http://olpcjamaica.org.jm/ ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #1024 landuse=brownfield + landuse=residential
Yances I think that we should keep the duplicates for now. We are in the emergency and did not had time to think about the various problems when we created this job. I prefer that we keep duplicate, otherwise we would loose info about the residential area. It should be easy to mange once the job is completed and revise the landuse=brownfield. We can define a nepal earthquake event related tag to report this and facilitate later the database management. regard Pierre De : hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com À : S Volk svo...@hotmail.com Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 13h34 Objet : Re: [HOT] #1024 landuse=brownfield + landuse=residential I think a better aproach to this could be update previous polygon tags, from landuse=residential to landuse=brownfield and erase duplicated polygon. 2015-05-01 17:55 GMT-05:00 S Volk svo...@hotmail.com: Hi, please, one question:I'm tracing a landuse=brownfield poligon for recently disappeared homes (comparing DigitalGlobe 2015-04-29 with both Bing and MapGive / HIU april 2015 images, ) over a place where there was already a landuse=residential poligon (probably will be a common case). I ask: is it ok, doesn't it happen any kind of conflict for a landuse over another landuse, like conflict in rendering brownfield over residential, or any kind of conflict for identification? // Also, no sign of tents in the neigborhood of these demolished buildings, confirming reports that rescue haven't arrived yet to many distant place. // Thanks - Sérgio (user:SergioAJV) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #1024 landuse=brownfield + landuse=residential
Hello Sérgio, I just realized that no one had answered your question yet. So I will give it a try. Am 02.05.2015 00:58 schrieb S Volk svo...@hotmail.com: I'm tracing a landuse=brownfield poligon for recently disappeared homes (comparing DigitalGlobe 2015-04-29 with both Bing and MapGive / HIU april 2015 images, ) over a place where there was already a landuse=residential poligon (probably will be a common case). I ask: is it ok, doesn't it happen any kind of conflict for a landuse over another landuse, like conflict in rendering brownfield over residential, or any kind of conflict for identification? I think ideally the landuse polygons do not overlap. But in practice I also think that it does not really cause problems if they do. Compared to some of the other issues with the quality of data.I have seen recently this does not really scare me. So if it's easy I would adjust the residential area. But if for example this requires a multipolygon I would rather have overlapping polygons. I hope this helps, others are happily welcome to comment as well. Cheers, Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #Nepal - Bulk upload of admin boundaries - To revert?
Reverts are possible http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Change_rollback#JOSM Before do that please read this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Disputes I've shared this issue with impo...@openstreetmap.org Best! 2015-05-02 11:41 GMT-05:00 Stéphane Henriod s...@henriod.info: Hi While mapping task #1014 I found this admin boundary: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/341454201 Which appears to be a bulk upload with many tags that don't match the usual OSM schemes. Acording to the changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30616871 someone (4rch) has already contacted the mapper a few days ago. Just wanted to know if someone is already in touch to see if it is necessary to revert the changeset? Since I have never reverted a changeset myself, I would refrain from doing it. Cheers Stéphane -- Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux -- Albert Einstein Si les contacts avec les étrangers lui étaient permis, [le citoyen ordinaire] découvrirait que ce sont des créatures semblables à lui-même et que la plus grande partie de ce qu'on lui a raconté d'eux est fausse. Le monde fermé, scellé, dans lequel il vit, serait brisé, et la crainte, la haine, la certitude de son bon droit, desquelles dépend sa morale, pourraient disparaître -- George Orwell (1984) “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable. -- Clifton Fadiman Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Very versatile some of this helicopters! Based on the information gived from this pictures, maybe aeroway=helipad poligons radio could be less than 30 mts (task#1026); so increase probability for more aerial rescue areas? 2015-05-02 10:25 GMT-05:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
We did not have clear instructions on this. I then prefered to be conservative. Looking at the official helipads (aeroway=helipad) gives us some clue about what looks to be reasonnable. Pierre De : hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com À : Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com Cc : HOT hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 13h58 Objet : Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas Very versatile some of this helicopters! Based on the information gived from this pictures, maybe aeroway=helipad poligons radio could be less than 30 mts (task#1026); so increase probability for more aerial rescue areas? 2015-05-02 10:25 GMT-05:00 Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] #Nepal - Bulk upload of admin boundaries - To revert?
Hi While mapping task #1014 I found this admin boundary: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/341454201 Which appears to be a bulk upload with many tags that don't match the usual OSM schemes. Acording to the changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/30616871 someone (4rch) has already contacted the mapper a few days ago. Just wanted to know if someone is already in touch to see if it is necessary to revert the changeset? Since I have never reverted a changeset myself, I would refrain from doing it. Cheers Stéphane -- Le mot progrès n'aura aucun sens tant qu'il y aura des enfants malheureux -- Albert Einstein Si les contacts avec les étrangers lui étaient permis, [le citoyen ordinaire] découvrirait que ce sont des créatures semblables à lui-même et que la plus grande partie de ce qu'on lui a raconté d'eux est fausse. Le monde fermé, scellé, dans lequel il vit, serait brisé, et la crainte, la haine, la certitude de son bon droit, desquelles dépend sa morale, pourraient disparaître -- George Orwell (1984) “When you travel, remember that a foreign country is not designed to make you comfortable. It is designed to make its own people comfortable. -- Clifton Fadiman Photos de voyages, photos de montagne: http://www.henriod.info ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] #1024 landuse=brownfield + landuse=residential
Thanks Michael and hyances , I see now OSM actually renders the brown colour of brownfield over residential grey, not under. Sérgio ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] #1024 landuse=brownfield + landuse=residential
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I think it might do some massive damage when you change landuse=residential to brownfield. First, it is crucial to know where a residential are WAS. Also a brownfield in most cases doesn't equals to a residential area! There are damaged buildings but no tents showing nearby. We have to keep the residential area info for the tasks rescue teams will need now and in several WEEKS! when damaged buildings are not the greatest Problem anymore... For now, everybody who needs a brownfield can highlight it. Anybody needing residential areas can also use our data. greetings from germany Julian Am 02.05.2015 um 00:55 schrieb S Volk: Hi, please, one question: I'm tracing a "landuse=brownfield" poligon for recently disappeared homes (comparing DigitalGlobe 2015-04-29 with both Bing and MapGive / HIU april 2015 images, ) over a place where there was already a "landuse=residential" poligon (probably will be a common case). I ask: is it ok, doesn't it happen any kind of conflict for a "landuse" over another "landuse", like conflict in rendering brownfield over residential, or any kind of conflict for identification? // Also, no sign of tents in the neigborhood of these demolished buildings, confirming reports that rescue haven't arrived yet to many distant place. // Thanks - Sérgio (user:SergioAJV) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVRRl6AAoJEMUCiYazPkhKEZEP/3SjOsVh47enx/S5F4AAbkAZ vKBxGGwdjMMlZJ/S1lpG886/rQC1/9RRobavxHMgXi0zjBxwHsQAuxQwzKIPNc6Z AN1C4cS53swedBb9FHqd0zuX6mGA+jDad0GAoVYuVqDbSN4sOMpt0KUuD6Yf3Im/ CsSLZ+euoi3UB7fDgaoLUhBIb4zY4DEZ7N8X14NavjWm18/7aytQaHrD5VroMMlY oaDQ6brsjSIW6Mt+rbGplfK+NSJP7KSZV2W3fL9T9k5QdXSiJU3wIueWMC7hAboM 1VhOVxIOUXM+X2iVIqij70ZQzZhfpQXABj/5IJgzF66co8pThoje0czVt14xNVQy z9ZoNQ/4+eNBFQ4GBazWtGnHFHE6ILtRpVDBxQdrSFvd+PG0sywLtAI8MG0v4SRp ME21pOsgarnl1GXSJXiCEgP5tLiUooaxSvCiKo5RR0UGq3thcfl/1QSI+7mhdKNg 2I71P3zBoePK4Qijzf9+OLve6EzQrAuYPHRvsZsbVS/SSBqCnyb6HTLh+4ReqLCu ADuqCgFCs+mFcF5lKO73SvQ2b97HeKA46cA6puYhL0IeAyrWkFI8eglISJiaYFzF siBEtiB0e0wsNlHxC/Q84HS5/mzxfHl4GbR0unHcVgbEud3y1P8oMErzEyhaCqyr uSygF+1RQtVtojU+w5Xp =9jA+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
Dion, re-reading your email, you say an hour behind Geofabrik. I understand that I can revise the wiki to indicate30 minutes update (1h delay from Geofabrik), this for both pbf and obf. Would this be correct? Pierre De : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr À : Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com; Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h15 Objet : Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Thanks for these updates. Will add this link in the wiki page to assure even more availability of data. - Alternate PFB file if any problem downloading from Geofabrik (one hour late vs Geofabrik). Pierre De : Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com À : Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h00 Objet : Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Hmmm, weird. Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it off mapcache though, so thanks! On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to create the OSMAnd file from it http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset at Geofabrik at most. 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com: Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion | | | ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Question just to be sure.. Residential landuse areas should have at least 20 buildings?
I encountered a tile with many small (2 or 3 houses) areas in the hills of Nepal marked as landuse=Residential. It is my understanding that this tag should be used only for true Settlements of 20 or more houses? I read somewhere that counting the number of Residential areas can be used as a rough guide to population. This only works if they are all about same size. The validation instructions for my task: #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass, states residential/settlement areas - validate if all settlements (a cluster of 20 or so houses) are enclosed with landuse=residential polygon/enclosed way. Is it correct for me to remove the landuse tag for these tiny groups of houses? Tom ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Question just to be sure.. Residential landuse areas should have at least 20 buildings?
I have been routinely mapping groups of say half a dozen huts in West Africa as landuse=residential and its the first time I've seen a minimum number of twenty buildings. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 16:38, Tom McDonald tmcd...@gmail.com wrote: I encountered a tile with many small (2 or 3 houses) areas in the hills of Nepal marked as landuse=Residential. It is my understanding that this tag should be used only for true Settlements of 20 or more houses? I read somewhere that counting the number of Residential areas can be used as a rough guide to population. This only works if they are all about same size. The validation instructions for my task: #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass, states residential/settlement areas - validate if all settlements (a cluster of 20 or so houses) are enclosed with landuse=residential polygon/enclosed way. Is it correct for me to remove the landuse tag for these tiny groups of houses? Tom ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas
Thanks Dan A good, clear and instructive picture. We should add it in the instructions for the post-disaster jobs. Such image could also be included in a github tracing guide for Nepal post-disaster. regard Pierre De : Dan Marsh danrok.g...@gmail.com À : Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com Cc : hot@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 11h39 Objet : Re: [HOT] Nepal Earthquake - Experienced JOSM users needed : Pilot task to trace helicopter landing in remote areas This photo gives a good idea of what these villages may look like now, and a possible landing area in the upper right of the photo.http://cdn.cctv-america.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/000_TS-Del6410804.jpg On 2 May 2015 at 16:30, Dan Marsh danrok.g...@gmail.com wrote: Useful photos, thanks! On 2 May 2015 at 16:25, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi Michael, In case it could be useful to imagine landing situations, you can find photos, and a CNN video, of helicopters landing in my recent Twitter timeline, like : https://twitter.com/bhushan_gyan/status/594434101391810560 https://twitter.com/unheard_in/status/594435742706741248 https://twitter.com/jgVisov/status/594134163550240768 https://twitter.com/AnupamkPandey/status/594397182788173824 Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem https://twitter.com/jgVisov Le 02/05/2015 14:57, Michael a écrit : Hi, Am 02.05.2015 um 02:36 schrieb Pierre Béland: we are requested to help to locate official and potential helicopters landing to help for the relief of remote areas in the mountains. This is not an easy job and we ask again for experienced contributors that can play with the various Image layers and evaluate helicopters landing. See the pilote task http://tasks.hotosm.org/project/1023 I agree that this is not easy. After finishing two small tasks I had not found any marked helipad but added some leisure=common. So I was to not sure if I was looking for an example and with the help of overpass finally found one. In case anyone else had the same question and for reference here the coodinates: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/28.29210/84.37631 In the imagery you can see the H in a circle of about 10 meters size. Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Dan Marsh http://www.dm-photographics.com -- Dan Marsh http://www.dm-photographics.com ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code
Ever heard of this? A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious: http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems. Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8. There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in places that would actually need this kind of tool. However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating places? Claire Claire Halleux +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC) Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://www.hotosm.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Newbie: Maps closer than 500 ft are blurry
Can't get images closer than 500 ft using BING (totally pixelated) or MapBox, the only two options that show images. Someone with experience, please help so I can continue. (Using iD Editor on an old Mac that can't load JOSM.) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Newbie: Maps closer than 500 ft are blurry
Try a different tile, some imagery is better than others. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 17:19, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote: Can't get images closer than 500 ft using BING (totally pixelated) or MapBox, the only two options that show images. Someone with experience, please help so I can continue. (Using iD Editor on an old Mac that can't load JOSM.) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code
Hi Claire, Have you had a look at what3words: http://what3words.com? It's three words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes. In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few regions over the next year. Happy to chat more if you would like. Best, Mark On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux claire.hall...@hotosm.org wrote: Ever heard of this? A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious: http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems. Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8. There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in places that would actually need this kind of tool. However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating places? Claire Claire Halleux +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC) Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://www.hotosm.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
Dont forget that we work to locate people at risk after 8 days without any relief. People have lost everything under the houses ruins including food. It is important to report all the residential areas to assure to provide them relief. We should remove the instructions 20 or so. Did not notice. This is valuable if you trace all buildings under clusters of 20. Isolated areas, even under 20 houses should be reported too.regard Pierre De : Kretzer kret...@gmx.net À : Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com Cc : HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 19h07 Objet : Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi again, I just noticed Emmor beat me to the answer ... I wanted to ad that it can be useful to look at the history of changes in a case like this. Sometime I do this to make sure if the other person possibly had more recent information (or local knowledge, as there was a lot of mapping activity in Nepal in the last years - in some areas I have seen many edits by users with Nepalese sounding names). You can find the history if you change to the map view and click on the History tab on the top. In this case there were several very new users contributing. As to the residential areas, I would draw the line around the larger clusters of buildings and leave the others outside. The instructions in this project specify that it should be around 20 or so buildings. Mappers' styles vary, personally I don't like the tiny residential areas. The important thing is that the buildings are there, so that rescuers can see were people are living. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:47 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: Kretzer kret...@gmx.net Betreff: Re: Aw: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi, I questioned the large areas, yet villages in Nepal are really spread out over big areas. I'm not sure what to do but to leave them for not and wait. Suzan Portland, Oregon USA On May 2, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Kretzer wrote: Hi Susan, zooming out you can see that this is at the bottom of a quite large valley, so it is very likely that there is a stream, even if it isn't clearly visible. Maybe the person who drew it was using different imagery. I think it's not in the right place in the middle section (near the mapped path), but I would prolong it to the river in the east. it's not the most important feature at the moment, though. What disturbs me more in the tile are the huge residential areas - those boundaries should be close to the buildings. They are also overlapping in one place, and there is an area within an area in the western part. Both shouldn't happen. I'm just a semi-noob myself, but I am quite sure about these questions. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:02 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
In Nepal villages can be spread out over very large areas. In Nepal a village is often not a tight group of buildings. An area as large as a half a mile wide will all relate as a village. Small clusters of buildings can be one family, or a monastery, but people 500, even 1000 meters away are neighbors in that village. So what do we do with large areas of houses and buildings spread out over a 1000 ft area…in Nepal? On May 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Pierre Béland wrote: Dont forget that we work to locate people at risk after 8 days without any relief. People have lost everything under the houses ruins including food. It is important to report all the residential areas to assure to provide them relief. We should remove the instructions 20 or so. Did not notice. This is valuable if you trace all buildings under clusters of 20. Isolated areas, even under 20 houses should be reported too. regard Pierre De : Kretzer kret...@gmx.net À : Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com Cc : HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 19h07 Objet : Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi again, I just noticed Emmor beat me to the answer ... I wanted to ad that it can be useful to look at the history of changes in a case like this. Sometime I do this to make sure if the other person possibly had more recent information (or local knowledge, as there was a lot of mapping activity in Nepal in the last years - in some areas I have seen many edits by users with Nepalese sounding names). You can find the history if you change to the map view and click on the History tab on the top. In this case there were several very new users contributing. As to the residential areas, I would draw the line around the larger clusters of buildings and leave the others outside. The instructions in this project specify that it should be around 20 or so buildings. Mappers' styles vary, personally I don't like the tiny residential areas. The important thing is that the buildings are there, so that rescuers can see were people are living. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:47 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: Kretzer kret...@gmx.net Betreff: Re: Aw: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi, I questioned the large areas, yet villages in Nepal are really spread out over big areas. I'm not sure what to do but to leave them for not and wait. Suzan Portland, Oregon USA On May 2, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Kretzer wrote: Hi Susan, zooming out you can see that this is at the bottom of a quite large valley, so it is very likely that there is a stream, even if it isn't clearly visible. Maybe the person who drew it was using different imagery. I think it's not in the right place in the middle section (near the mapped path), but I would prolong it to the river in the east. it's not the most important feature at the moment, though. What disturbs me more in the tile are the huge residential areas - those boundaries should be close to the buildings. They are also overlapping in one place, and there is an area within an area in the western part. Both shouldn't happen. I'm just a semi-noob myself, but I am quite sure about these questions. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:02 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Google Chrome users
After having investigated the Java plugin situation with Google Chrome I have found there is a way to enable the NPAPI that has been disabled. 1. Open your Chrome web browser. 2. In the URL panel at the top type in chrome://flags/#enable-npapi 3. Click the Enable link for Enable NPAPI. 4. At the bottom of the page click the Relaunch button that has now appeared. Task completed and Chrome should now support Java plugins. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Question just to be sure.. Residential landuse areas should have at least 20 buildings?
Am 02.05.2015 23:04 schrieb john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com: I have been routinely mapping groups of say half a dozen huts in West Africa as landuse=residential and its the first time I've seen a minimum number of twenty buildings. Same for me. I probably added some of these just today. So I would recommend not to delete the polygon. In a 'perfectly' mapped area there would be buildings within a landuse polygon - it's not 'either or' but 'as well as' Michael (user Ohr) ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code
what3words is nice but is commercial. I was hoping for some sort of open data prem code postcode idea. UK prem code is the house number so a prem code followed by the postcode is a unique address. Example 10pr82az is 10 weld road southport pr8 2az. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe m...@markiliffe.co.uk wrote: Hi Claire, Have you had a look at what3words: http://what3words.com? It's three words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes. In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few regions over the next year. Happy to chat more if you would like. Best, Mark On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux claire.hall...@hotosm.org wrote: Ever heard of this? A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious: http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems. Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8. There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in places that would actually need this kind of tool. However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating places? Claire Claire Halleux +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC) Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://www.hotosm.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
I download from geofabrik every hour (hourly). That way, I am at most an hour behind. Sorry for the confusion. Kind regards, Milo On May 2, 2015 9:24 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Dion, re-reading your email, you say an hour behind Geofabrik. I understand that I can revise the wiki to indicate 30 minutes update (1h delay from Geofabrik), this for both pbf and obf. Would this be correct? Pierre -- *De :* Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr *À :* Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com; Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net *Cc :* hot hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h15 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Thanks for these updates. Will add this link in the wiki page to assure even more availability of data. - Alternate PFB file if any problem downloading from Geofabrik (one hour late vs Geofabrik). Pierre -- *De :* Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com *À :* Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net *Cc :* hot hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h00 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Hmmm, weird. Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it off mapcache though, so thanks! On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to create the OSMAnd file from it http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset at Geofabrik at most. 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com: Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
Suzan, I believe it is a watercourse, look at the location at level 16 with Mapbox imagery, it does appear to go to the stream to the east. Another issue I see is the extra large Residential area polygons, they should be just around the houses and not include so much area without houses. Regards, Emmor On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com wrote: Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
Hi Susan, zooming out you can see that this is at the bottom of a quite large valley, so it is very likely that there is a stream, even if it isn't clearly visible. Maybe the person who drew it was using different imagery. I think it's not in the right place in the middle section (near the mapped path), but I would prolong it to the river in the east. it's not the most important feature at the moment, though. What disturbs me more in the tile are the huge residential areas - those boundaries should be close to the buildings. They are also overlapping in one place, and there is an area within an area in the western part. Both shouldn't happen. I'm just a semi-noob myself, but I am quite sure about these questions. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:02 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
Hi again, I just noticed Emmor beat me to the answer ... I wanted to ad that it can be useful to look at the history of changes in a case like this. Sometime I do this to make sure if the other person possibly had more recent information (or local knowledge, as there was a lot of mapping activity in Nepal in the last years - in some areas I have seen many edits by users with Nepalese sounding names). You can find the history if you change to the map view and click on the History tab on the top. In this case there were several very new users contributing. As to the residential areas, I would draw the line around the larger clusters of buildings and leave the others outside. The instructions in this project specify that it should be around 20 or so buildings. Mappers' styles vary, personally I don't like the tiny residential areas. The important thing is that the buildings are there, so that rescuers can see were people are living. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:47 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: Kretzer kret...@gmx.net Betreff: Re: Aw: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi, I questioned the large areas, yet villages in Nepal are really spread out over big areas. I'm not sure what to do but to leave them for not and wait. Suzan Portland, Oregon USA On May 2, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Kretzer wrote: Hi Susan, zooming out you can see that this is at the bottom of a quite large valley, so it is very likely that there is a stream, even if it isn't clearly visible. Maybe the person who drew it was using different imagery. I think it's not in the right place in the middle section (near the mapped path), but I would prolong it to the river in the east. it's not the most important feature at the moment, though. What disturbs me more in the tile are the huge residential areas - those boundaries should be close to the buildings. They are also overlapping in one place, and there is an area within an area in the western part. Both shouldn't happen. I'm just a semi-noob myself, but I am quite sure about these questions. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:02 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isn't a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes
Thanks, Pierre! In this case the buildings are all mapped individually, the question was just where to draw the line around them. I guess its not that important, as long as all the buildings are on the map. so Ill better go back and do that ... Gesendet:Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 01:19 Uhr Von:Pierre Bland pierz...@yahoo.fr An:Kretzer kret...@gmx.net, Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com Cc:HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Betreff:Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Dont forget that we work to locate people at risk after 8 days without any relief. People have lost everything under the houses ruins including food. It is important to report all the residential areas to assure to provide them relief. We should remove the instructions 20 or so. Did not notice. This is valuable if you trace all buildings under clusters of 20. Isolated areas, even under 20 houses should be reported too. regard Pierre De: Kretzer kret...@gmx.net : Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com Cc: HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Envoy le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 19h07 Objet: Re: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi again, I just noticed Emmor beat me to the answer ... I wanted to ad that it can be useful to look at the history of changes in a case like this. Sometime I do this to make sure if the other person possibly had more recent information (or local knowledge, as there was a lot of mapping activity in Nepal in the last years - in some areas I have seen many edits by users with Nepalese sounding names). You can find the history if you change to the map view and click on the History tab on the top. In this case there were several very new users contributing. As to the residential areas, I would draw the line around the larger clusters of buildings and leave the others outside. The instructions in this project specify that it should be around 20 or so buildings. Mappers styles vary, personally I dont like the tiny residential areas. The important thing is that the buildings are there, so that rescuers can see were people are living. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:47 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: Kretzer kret...@gmx.net Betreff: Re: Aw: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Hi, I questioned the large areas, yet villages in Nepal are really spread out over big areas. Im not sure what to do but to leave them for not and wait. Suzan Portland, Oregon USA On May 2, 2015, at 3:42 PM, Kretzer wrote: Hi Susan, zooming out you can see that this is at the bottom of a quite large valley, so it is very likely that there is a stream, even if it isnt clearly visible. Maybe the person who drew it was using different imagery. I think its not in the right place in the middle section (near the mapped path), but I would prolong it to the river in the east. its not the most important feature at the moment, though. What disturbs me more in the tile are the huge residential areas - those boundaries should be close to the buildings. They are also overlapping in one place, and there is an area within an area in the western part. Both shouldnt happen. Im just a semi-noob myself, but I am quite sure about these questions. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2015 um 00:02 Uhr Von: Suzan Reed su...@suzanreed.com An: HOT@openstreetmap.org hot@openstreetmap.org Betreff: [HOT] Experienced mapper please verify: nonexistent stream on Task #1955, other mistakes Someone with advanced mapping experience, please review. There isnt a stream at the locations listed below. Seem to be lots of mistakes on this task. Might be new information, or? #1018 - Nepal Earthquake, 2015, detailed mapping 2nd pass Task #1955 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=20/28.08949/84.74058 http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?editor=id#map=16/28.0890/84.7460 PLEASE ADVISE ME ON WHAT TO DO WITH THIS TASK. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code
Most topographic maps will be using MGRS grids for referencing a location, it can be 1m precise to 100m depending on how much digits you grid contains. Garmin GPS's have MGRS built in by default, it's a good idea to use both LatLng MGRS when referencing a location. Example of MGRS - 45R UL 12345 12345 (1 meter precise) - 45R UL 123 123 (100 meter precise) Cheers, OSM: @DenisCarriere Twitter: @DenisCarriere On May 3, 2015 3:59 AM, Mark Iliffe m...@markiliffe.co.uk wrote: Hi John, All, what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word component also is quite good at error checking. Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience in rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even under partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode where every digit is relevant. Best, Mark Sent from my iPhone On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: what3words is nice but is commercial. I was hoping for some sort of open data prem code postcode idea. UK prem code is the house number so a prem code followed by the postcode is a unique address. Example 10pr82az is 10 weld road southport pr8 2az. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe m...@markiliffe.co.uk wrote: Hi Claire, Have you had a look at what3words: http://what3words.com? It's three words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes. In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few regions over the next year. Happy to chat more if you would like. Best, Mark On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux claire.hall...@hotosm.org wrote: Ever heard of this? A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious: http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems. Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8. There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in places that would actually need this kind of tool. However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating places? Claire Claire Halleux +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC) Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://www.hotosm.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] How to locate places without addresses? Open location code
Hi John, All, what3words is free at point of use and is human readable - the word component also is quite good at error checking. Postcodes and generic codes work if the people you want to use them have a cognition of addressing systems like postcodes or mailstops. My experience in rural Tanzania is that they don't have that experience. We've been integrating what3words so people will be able phone or text location. ID numbers on water points just washed away/eroded. what3words works even under partial degradation, then it can be error corrected unlike a postcode where every digit is relevant. Best, Mark Sent from my iPhone On 2 May 2015, at 23:52, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: what3words is nice but is commercial. I was hoping for some sort of open data prem code postcode idea. UK prem code is the house number so a prem code followed by the postcode is a unique address. Example 10pr82az is 10 weld road southport pr8 2az. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 17:42, Mark Iliffe m...@markiliffe.co.uk wrote: Hi Claire, Have you had a look at what3words: http://what3words.com? It's three words and is multi lingual, quite a lot more usable than genetic codes. In Tanzania my team and I have been looking at using them (through pilots) for locating/identifying water points and will scale them across a few regions over the next year. Happy to chat more if you would like. Best, Mark On 2 May 2015, at 21:45, Claire Halleux claire.hall...@hotosm.org wrote: Ever heard of this? A G*solution for locating places accurately where addresses are not obvious: http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html Still, it doesn't seem to me more intuitive than coordinate systems. Ex: I am currently in 87C4VXW3+HG8. There are ways to shorten it, but I doubt that those would be applicable in places that would actually need this kind of tool. However, would you have any experience on this or other ways to share regarding using non standard geographic coordinates system for locating places? Claire Claire Halleux +243 99 256 9980 (Kinshasa, DRC) Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team http://www.hotosm.org/ http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/2014_DRC_Ebola_Response ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Latest PBF?
Thanks Milo for your contribution. I will revise the wiki since this is more then daily update. Will simply say hourly update. One way to show how these regular updates are important, the Nepal database has more then double since April 25. Amazing effort from the Global OSM community. The presence of Kathmandu Living Labs in Kathmandu greatly help the interface with the humanitarian organizations and assure that they use OSM Maps Services. Maps are ever more important in the context of this activation where remote villages have no road access. regard Pierre De : Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net À : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org; Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 17h56 Objet : Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? I download from geofabrik every hour (hourly). That way, I am at most an hour behind.Sorry for the confusion.Kind regards,Milo On May 2, 2015 9:24 PM, Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr wrote: Dion, re-reading your email, you say an hour behind Geofabrik. I understand that I can revise the wiki to indicate30 minutes update (1h delay from Geofabrik), this for both pbf and obf. Would this be correct? Pierre De : Pierre Béland pierz...@yahoo.fr À : Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com; Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h15 Objet : Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Thanks for these updates. Will add this link in the wiki page to assure even more availability of data. - Alternate PFB file if any problem downloading from Geofabrik (one hour late vs Geofabrik). Pierre De : Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com À : Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net Cc : hot hot@openstreetmap.org Envoyé le : Samedi 2 mai 2015 15h00 Objet : Re: [HOT] Latest PBF? Hmmm, weird. Still get time outs from the original, I was able to get it off mapcache though, so thanks! On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 4:42 AM, Milo van der Linden m...@dogodigi.net wrote: No, I can download it. But I also save it (automated) to http://mapcache.org/downloads/openstreetmap/nepal/nepal-special.osm.pbf to create the OSMAnd file from it http://mapcache.org/downloads/osmand/Nepal_special_2.obf Feel free to use these locations. They will be an hour behind the dataset at Geofabrik at most. 2015-05-02 13:00 GMT+02:00 Dion Houston dionhous...@gmail.com: Is anyone else having difficulty getting the latest update from http://labs.geofabrik.de/nepal/latest.osm.pbf ? If so, is there an alternate location? Thanks, Dion | | | ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Google Chrome Browser
I thought it might be useful to share this. I do not yet know how it will fully affect JOSM. I received this notification We have detected you are using Google Chrome and might be unable to use the Java plugin from this browser. Starting with Version 42 (released April 2015) Chrome has disabled the standard way in which browsers support plugins Hope it does not impact too much on Chrome users. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Atlantic article
The Atlantic has a very nice writeup on HOT and Nepal. http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/05/the-mapmakers-helping-nepal/392228/ ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Google Chrome Browser
JOSM is stand alone and doesn't use a browser. However HOT task web page uses a JOSM plugin for remote control which might be affected. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 19:08, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com wrote: I thought it might be useful to share this. I do not yet know how it will fully affect JOSM. I received this notification We have detected you are using Google Chrome and might be unable to use the Java plugin from this browser. Starting with Version 42 (released April 2015) Chrome has disabled the standard way in which browsers support plugins Hope it does not impact too much on Chrome users. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Google Chrome users
On investigation JOSM appears to be remote controlled by HOT project tasks in Chrome whether or not NPAPI is enabled or not. Cheerio John On 2 May 2015 at 20:22, Pierre GIRAUD pierre.gir...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry if it's a stupid question but, when are the java plugins required (in the context of HOT)? I don't think using the tasking manager requires to have Chrome java plugins enabled. So, I'm just curious. Pierre On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com wrote: After having investigated the Java plugin situation with Google Chrome I have found there is a way to enable the NPAPI that has been disabled. 1. Open your Chrome web browser. 2. In the URL panel at the top type in chrome://flags/#enable-npapi 3. Click the Enable link for Enable NPAPI. 4. At the bottom of the page click the Relaunch button that has now appeared. Task completed and Chrome should now support Java plugins. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- - | Pierre GIRAUD - ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Google Chrome users
Sorry if it's a stupid question but, when are the java plugins required (in the context of HOT)? I don't think using the tasking manager requires to have Chrome java plugins enabled. So, I'm just curious. Pierre On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 7:55 PM, AYTOUN RALPH ralph.ayt...@ntlworld.com wrote: After having investigated the Java plugin situation with Google Chrome I have found there is a way to enable the NPAPI that has been disabled. 1. Open your Chrome web browser. 2. In the URL panel at the top type in chrome://flags/#enable-npapi 3. Click the Enable link for Enable NPAPI. 4. At the bottom of the page click the Relaunch button that has now appeared. Task completed and Chrome should now support Java plugins. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- - | Pierre GIRAUD - ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
[HOT] Tags/Presets and tiled map servers used in HOT?
Hi Sorry to interrupt your fantastic work capturing Nepal with two questions. They are of long term nature and interest: 1. What tags are recommended to use in HOT actions (is there a wiki.osm.org page)? 2. Which interactive maps (i.e. map tile servers) are you using (besides Garmin .img)? Regarding 1. I assumed tags are described in http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags and JOSM Presets (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Humanitarian_OSM_Tags/HDM_preset). Now, I'm confused because I looked at taginfo instance Nepal http://nepal-taginfo.openstreetmap.hu/keys and saw e.g. idp:camp_site which is not existing in JOSM Presets. JOSM HOT presets only contain tourism=camp_site. Regarding 2. When looking at OSM Humanitarian style or Stamen's I'd expected to see specific HOT tags like camp_sites or destructed buildings: * OSM Humanitarian: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/342295158#map=18/27.89391/85.14700layers=H * Stamen: http://tiles.openterrain.org/?humaniterrain#18/27.89391/85.14579 Is there a tiled map servers I missed? Yours, S. ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
