Re: [HOT] [Feature Interpretation] #767 - Mali, Bamako
A colonial-era military structure?? Mike On 21/11/2014 16:07, Pierre Béland wrote: This farmland seems well structured. These circles seem connected one to the other. Not sure, but this could be water reservoirs for the adjacent fields. Pierre *De :* Blake Girardot bgirar...@gmail.com *À :* althio forum althio.fo...@gmail.com *Cc :* HOT Openstreetmap hot@openstreetmap.org *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 21 novembre 2014 8h53 *Objet :* Re: [HOT] [Feature Interpretation] #767 - Mali, Bamako Wow, thats a good one althio, I have no first hand knowledge of what those are, but they are cool. I have no idea, grain silos is my first guess, but I don't think they make sense in the middle of the fields like that, nor do I know if they are divided up inside like these are. But they could just be interesting huts too. On Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 2:56 AM, althio forum althio.fo...@gmail.com mailto:althio.fo...@gmail.com wrote: In the middle of farmland: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/12.454208/-7.976059 What are those circles? ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Skybox for Good imagery
Hi Satoshi, Yes. My fault for delaying this but now done. Hence Josh' announcement. I am happy that: * The provider is aware of what we will do with their imagery and data derived from it. * The provider has given their explicit permission to include derived data into the OSM database. * The proposed attribution mechanism, adding source to tags and/or change sets is practical, (the imagery will only be released in the context of HOT projects). I have also added a new section for HOT under http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution . Mike LWG On 22/11/2014 01:15, Satoshi IIDA wrote: Hello, As my understanding, using Skybox imagery is a task for LWG currently. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071318.html https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071320.html https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2014-October/071295.html Are there any progress since the discussion? 2014-11-22 8:43 GMT+09:00 Pat Tressel ptres...@myuw.net mailto:ptres...@myuw.net: Josh -- As some of you may be aware, we recently announced the Skybox for Good http://www.skyboximaging.com/blog/introducing-skybox-for-goodprogram. We know that some of this imagery can be especially useful in Crisis Response situations, and therefore we are explicitly authorizing usage of Skybox for Good imagery in any current HOT Activation http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HOT_activation, under the condition that changesets and/or features that are derived from Skybox for Good imagery and committed to OSM are attributed to Skybox. That's fantastic news!! Ok, folks, who gets to send the formal Thank You? I bet that's the communications working group. And I also bet it's safe to infer a whole bunch of individual thank-yous. ;-) This could, for example, include the method of attributing Skybox as the source, or a similar method deemed appropriate by HOT. We had that older thread about imagery tagging, where it came down to source (used since forever) and the new, automatically-added imagery_used tag in iD, which, it was pointed out, might not be accurate if the user switches imagery temporarily -- would have to see what iD does in that case. One thought -- maybe it would be good to add imagery_used in JOSM with the same behavior as iD, just so they're consistent. We'd keep adding source, but imagery_used would be there as a fallback. Task validators can also check for a source tag, since a task usually specifies a set of imagery. -- Pat ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org mailto:HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com mailto:nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
Re: [HOT] Launching the hot mailing list in French
As mentioned, I create the OSM lists, so I hope these neutral observations help the discussion: Yes, indeed the OSM list system works in as loose and free-wheeling manner as possible along the support-but-not-control mission of the OSMF. So unless I can think of a really strong reason, I just go ahead and create whatever list is requested provided that it is in some way OSM-related and that it is free for anyone to join and participate subject to etiquette guidelines. I may nudge and suggest a bit, for example a better name or pointing out a potential overlap with another list, but that is all. To my recollection, I've only sought board guidance once. For OSM Just Do It ethos, it works well. However, I can see a number of reasons why a little time for HOT to discuss and have a good collective strategy is a good thing: 1) We (OpenStreetMap) do draw a firm distinction between OSM and OSMF, i.e. a broad community with fuzzy membership and a, well, bureaucratic organisation with with specific finite membership. In line with that, our osmf-* lists are only generated after broader discussion and may involve board sanction. Should HOT reflect that distinction in some way? 2) When OpenStreetMap started, we did not explicitly consider branding. So it is not always clear what OpenStreetMap refers to. That can be a good thing, someone starts a weird project, it turns out to be useful and is absorbed into the OSM universe. But it can be a bad thing if someone represents themselves to governmental or commercial organisations in a way that might be damaging to the overall project. So, having a discussion over about some control over who and how folks can use the word HOT or Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team is worth having? 3) OSM lists on https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo**are easy. HOT lists have an extra layer in that they are effectively being hosted by a sister organisation that HOT has no control over. Should HOT have any ground rules that I can be guided by? Mike On 10/07/2014 15:26, Severin Menard wrote: Hi Heather, I am a bit surprised by your reaction, it seems you do not know well how the OSM lists work. Any group can ask OSMF (Mike Collinson is in charge of this) to create one, about a specific topic and/or a specific location. Here is the whole list of OSM talk lists: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ for you to figure out. As you can see, there are very specific lists like eg Talk-gb-oxoncotswolds for Oxford, Oxfordshire and the Cotswolds in GB or Talk-it-trentino for the Trentino in Italy. These lists have been created by locals or people specifically interested in these regions; creating it does not require the permission of an upper list that would be the country one or the general talk list (without suffix). Regarding your background, you could eg create an OSM-Ushahidi list to discuss about the interactions between OSM and Ushahidi (and this would not be a bad idea at all), knowing that many people would join. Are you really suggesting setting a public, open OSM list allowing a potential +200 million people to raise their voices on humanitarian and development topics should have been decided by a board or people outside them? Or that we should make a general survey (in English) to state if Spanish, French, Portuguese or Swahili speakers will be allowed or not to have a list in their language? This does not fit with OSM. This hot list in French is actually something that is in the minds and wished for years. Otherwise I do take care about communicating about this when it starts, this is the aim of my message, so that this larger (I mean larger because many could not participate before in hot discussions and now will join) community (and not separated communities) can collaborate efficiently. Hope these points are more clear for you. Sincerely, Severin On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Heather Leson heather.le...@hotosm.org mailto:heather.le...@hotosm.org wrote: Sev, it would have been great to talk in person before setting up a separate HOT list and community process. For example, this was already a topic for the upcoming Board meeting and definitely something we want to do right by really consulting with the HOT community. While I appreciate your initiative, collaboration and community means communicating. I'll be following up on this in the coming month. Thank you Heather On Jul 10, 2014 7:33 AM, Severin Menard severin.men...@gmail.com mailto:severin.men...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There is a openstreetmap.org http://openstreetmap.org hot list now for French speaking people who do not have enough English to participate to the hot (English) list, and they are numerous not only in France (I think well-known to be one of the worst English speaking countries :) but also in Africa and in the Caribbeans.
Re: [HOT] odbl non-agreement and humanitarian exceptions.
FYI, you can now see declined and undecided mappers in the Haiti and Dominican Republic at http://odbl.de/haiti-and-domrep.html http://odbl.poole.ch/ http://odbl.poole.ch/haiti-domrep-20111208-20120201-poly.html Thank you to OSM users SunCobalt and wicking and to Simon Poole respectively for providing these. Mike ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot
