Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 151, Issue 9

[lostnbronx]

To me, the biggest issue for HPR is, and always has been, attracting
contributors. It stands to reason then, that lowering the barrier to
entry matters more than anything else, including raising the audio
quality. While many longtime podcasters find the process of recording
quality audio to be trivial at this point, I'm not one of them. It's
precisely why the audio quality of a number of my own contributions
has been so bad: because if I didn't compromise on the quality, I
couldn't contribute at all. Granted, I owe Ken and the community a
show or three right now, but my point stands.

How many thousands of downloads does HPR get per episode, on average?
I don't have that stat handy, but others do, and it's not small. Now,
compare that to the number of active contributors. Whatever that
statistic is, I'm willing to bet it IS small. We need more hosts, and
first-time hosts are rightfully intimidated by the process. While we
do run the risk of getting some shows that are either unlistenable
(audio quality-wise), or expressly NOT of interest to hackers (some of
my stuff), I personally believe emphasizing audio quality -- at least
outwardly, to potential hosts not subscribed to this list -- would be
counterproductive to attracting new contributors.

I've no doubt we lose some listeners due to the audio of a few shows.
That's unfortunate. But I've also little doubt we lose potential
hosts, who find the process of contributing to be insurmountable.
That's flatout tragic. So many people listening feel that they don't
even have anything worthwhile to SAY, let alone the knowledge to put
it out there. Until we can make headway against that sort of thinking,
I can't see throwing up more barriers to entry. HPR is a hungry beast;
it's not at all picky about what it eats, but it needs constant
feeding.



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> The question raised by this blog post feel valid. I think the things to
> consider are:
>
> * How do we encourage increased quality without also excluding those for who
>
> good audio quality is difficult to achieve?
>
> A proposed answer: maybe we have volunteers to help "produce" shows, rather
>
> than to generate content? In other words, if we aim for 1 show a week, then
>
> instead of $JANITOR feeling the best way for $JANITOR to contribute is by
> pumping out 3 episodes to fill slots, $VOLUNTEER would instead "foster" in a
>
> new host, with consultation on how to achieve good audio quality, etc.
>
> * How do we reduce frequency of shows without also making a new host wait
> for
> months before their show goes live (an excellent de-motivator).
>
> Proposed answer: commit to 1 show a week, but allow for spontaneous
> "impatient" bonus episodes.
>
> * Fewer episodes per week doesn't guarantee that $LISTENER is going to
> suddenly be more interested in each episode, or even that $LISTENER will
> feel
> the audio quality is "good enough". The world wide audience is _huge_, and
> each person has their  own requirements for  what they put in their ears,
> and
> these requirements can change with mood, weather, or whatever else.
>
> Just my thoughts. I personally enjoy the daily release schedule, but I
> wouldn't be surprised if I also enjoyed a weekly release too.
>
> -klaatu
>
> On Sunday, April 25, 2021 9:39:26 PM NZST nstr wrote:
>> On 21-04-24 20:02, BK Navarette wrote:
>> > Funny, why does the blog writer not do  show? Give an example of
>> > quality.
>> > Or if they are shy use espeak or a volunteer to read i out, I'd be
>> > willing to help with either.
>> >
>> > Brian-in-ohio
>>
>> Hello, I'm the author of the post.
>>
>> I regret writing this post in hindsight. 'Quality' was a bad choice of
>> words. I also enjoy the DIY rawness of HPR and I certainly don't want it
>> to be more polished, in some professional sense. I've should have
>> replaced 'quality' with 'to my subjective interest' or something along
>> those lines.
>>
>> The main point was to bring up the question of perhaps keeping empty
>> slots empty. As a

Re: [Hpr] The Case of the Disappearing Links

[lostnbronx]

Dave Morris said:

>> So, here's my request: can we make efforts to reduce the "vulnerability"
>> of shows to unavailable links in the future?
>>
>> Discuss please :-)

I suppose I'm guilty of this: just off the top of my head, I know I've
put up links to several audio dramas that will almost certainly become
invalid at some point or other. Then again, given enough time, nothing
on the Internet stays the same.

The issue, as I see it, is that HPR serves both a timely audience, and
a "long-tail" audience (that is, back-episodes used as reference by
future listeners). To whom do we, as hosts, owe our collective
allegiance? Do we shoot for timelessness, as much as is reasonably
possible, or do we leave the hypothetical future listener to themself?

Others are certainly free to disagree, but I think subscribers matter
more than long-tail listeners.

HPR isn't Wikipedia. It may use Archive.org, but it's purpose is
fundamentally different. This is a modern show, talking about modern
topics, to an audience listening in the here-and-now. Others in the
future may -- or may not -- find these topics of value, but is it our
duty to ensure that their experience of the show is as fresh and
timely as it was when it was first published? I don't believe that it
is, nor that it should be.

Link rot is a comprehensive problem across the entire Internet, one
that has yet to have a solution. The Wayback Machine is a start,
maybe, but we aren't them. I don't believe Dave should be shoveling
sand against the tide in combating this issue on HPR's behalf (unless,
of course, he really wants to, in which case, I say go for it).

By my way of thinking, there is no moral weight upon us, as a
community, to deliver anything other than an historical experience to
future listeners -- to whom the episode will, perforce, be nothing but
history, anyway.

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Re: [Hpr] (no subject)

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> From: Dave Morriss 
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> Subject: [Hpr] HPR Show Notes
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> Hi,
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> There's an issue that bothers me from time to time: the longevity of HPR
> shows.
>
> Many shows have notes that refer to external websites. Sometimes the
> references are to supplementary material such as Amazon links, the site
> with details of the thing being talked about, pictures or scripts made
> by the host, links to Git (or other) repositories, etc.
>
> The issue is that HPR shows have a long life, and we want them to
> continue to live on as long as possible -- with their notes. Currently
> all shows are on the HPR website and 2000+ are on archive.org. The
> oldest show is dated December 2007. In that sort of time scale external
> references can disappear.
>
> If a referenced item is unavailable, and I spot it, I try and find it on
> "The Wayback Machine" and make a copy on the HPR server. I then edit the
> notes, comment out the original link and point to the copy, usually with
> an "Editor's Note". This is quite a lot of work.
>
> Also, in order to make the archive.org copies of HPR shows as
> self-contained as possible I have been copying all of the components and
> adjusting notes to refer to these copies. The original method of
> uploading just left the original links to the HPR site in the notes.
>
> Here are a few anecdotes that I remember that might clarify things:
>
> - A show on compilers by sigflup (1128) contained figures in the form of
> JPEG images which had vanished. The images were on the Wayback Machine,
> and were copied as described.
>
> - Jon Kulp's show 1282 contained a reference to an album of pictures on
> his server. The server died but Jon was able to recover the pictures. I
> placed them on the HPR server and referenced them from the episode.
>
> - My own show 1204 contained links to a repository on Gitorious, which
> has since disappeared. I edited my notes to refer to the the copy of the
> repo which I had made on GitLab.
>
> So, here's my request: can we make efforts to reduce the "vulnerability"
> of shows to unavailable links in the future?
>
> Discuss please :-)
>
> Dave
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>
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> Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2020 18:35:19 -0400
> From: "Kevin O'Brien" 
> To: Dave Morriss 
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> To some degree I think this is unavoidable. I have a WordPress plugin that
> tells me when a link no longer works, and initially I tried to keep up with
> fixing them. But it would end up taking too much of my time. I have just
> given up. People need to understand that older pages have links that no
> longer work.
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> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:36 PM Dave Morriss  wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> There's an issue that bothers me from time to time: the longevity of HPR
>> shows.
>>
>> Many shows have notes that refer to external websites. Sometimes the
>> references are to supplementary material such as Amazon links, the site
>> with details of the thing being talked about, pictures or scripts made
>> by the host, links to Git (or other) repositories, etc.
>>
>> The issue is that HPR shows have a long life, and we want them to
>> continue to live on as long as possible -- with their notes. Currently
>> all shows are on the HPR website and 2000+ are on archive.org. The
>> oldest show is dated December 2007. In that sort of time scale external
>> references can disappear.
>>
>> If a referenced item is unavailable, and I spot it, I try and find it on
>> "The Wayback Machine" and make a copy on the HPR server. I then edit the
>> notes, comment out the original link and point to the copy, usually with
>> an "

Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 136, Issue 2

[lostnbronx]

If you're taking votes, I like:

seetee_free_culture_podcasts-hand.svg


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> From: Ken Fallon 
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> Subject: Re: [Hpr] FOSS Podcasts banner
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>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm in desperate need of someone who can put a logo together. I
>> need to have a banner for "Free Culture Podcasts" stand at the
>> FOSDEM booth on Sunday.
>>
>> Anyone ???
>>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I would *really* like to thank everyone for the amazing response. What
> a community !
>
> We are spoiled for choice - have a look at what has been sent in so
> far and tell me what you think.
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/images/free_culture_podcasts/
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> mixed
> with something to do with open source would be good. All of the logos are a
> damn sight better than I could come up with, to be sure, though.
>
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 2:32 PM Ken Fallon  wrote:
>
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>> On 2020-01-04 20:46, Ken Fallon wrote:
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > I'm in desperate need of someone who can put a logo together. I
>> > need to have a banner for "Free Culture Podcasts" stand at the
>> > FOSDEM booth on Sunday.
>> >
>> > Anyone ???
>> >
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I would *really* like to thank everyone for the amazing response. What
>> a community !
>>
>> We are spoiled for choice - have a look at what has been sent in so
>> far and tell me what you think.
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/images/free_culture_podcasts/
>>
>>
>> - --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ken Fallon
>> http://kenfallon.com
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/correspondents.php?hostid=30
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Re: [Hpr] Harassment

[lostnbronx]

When you think about it, it's surprising we haven't had this problem
before. Unless we did, and it just wasn't brought to light.

Can we assume the harassment source was from within the community, and
not just from random trolls on the Internet? I think removing email
addresses of hosts is a great first step, at any rate.

A CoC would give the admins the power to act without having to seek
community consensus on every incident. It would also provide clear
guidelines for community members and admins alike regarding how to
behave, and what will happen if you don't.

It makes me sad that we need this, but I guess we were overdue.

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Re: [Hpr] 5150's Passing

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No way! Fifty was one of those guys whom I half-thought was
invincible. Such a nice guy, and such a loss. This is terribly
shocking news.

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 131, Issue 7

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From: cobra2 
> Ok LnB, I'd like to see your format so I can derive something similar
> without going too far outside of your structures. I love the idea of "I
> watched this, it was horrible and here is why you should watch it"

Okay, well this is what I'm going to go with right off the bat. Again,
anyone participating can do anything they want to do, any way they
want to do it. This system hearkens back to some of my chatter  from
the "Random Elements of Storytelling" series.

It also de-emphasizes, though doesn't discount, the importance of
performance in the review, as I'm more interested in the story than in
the actors. Others might feel that performance ought to have real
weight in a review, and that's fine.

Lord D's Film Reviews

Five categories, each rated 0, 1, or 2, so that the final reviews
range anywhere from 0 to 10, with 0 being the worst film ever, and 10,
the best.

Each category asks two yes-or-no questions. If the answer to both is
no, that category gets a 0. If only one is a yes, it gets a 1. If both
are a yes, it gets a 2.

* PLOT: Does it make sense, and/or is free of huge holes? Does it seem
like it hasn't been done too often?
* MAIN CHARACTERS: Are they realistic? Do you care about them?
* GENRE: Does it work for the plot? Would this tale have been better
in another genre?
* CONSTRUCTION: Is the acting competent for the tale? Are the
production and/or editing competent?
* PAYOFF: Did the film makers manage to do what they seemed to be
intending? Are you emotionally satisfied when the film is over?

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Re: [Hpr] Series Idea

[lostnbronx]

> From: "Thaj A. Sara" 

> At the end of the day if someone only wants technical discussion they can
> skip these episodes, or contribute what they feel is lacking. Just my two
> cents.

In my mind, this is an open series, with an open format. I have a
particular way I want to do mine, but there's no reason why others
have to follow that structure. I don't see any reason why people can't
include how-tos, industrial films, documentaries, or even YouTube
videos, with or without technical or "hacker" qualities to them.

Thinking about it now, I believe that creating film reviews outside
the traditional entertainment industry, and its various associated
media engines, is one way of hacking that system. It's a small effort,
and probably ineffectual regarding changes to their business models;
but to my way of thinking, hacking isn't about other people and how
they do things, it's about me, and how I want to do them.


> From: cobra2 

> I'm interested if we can open this up to a pool larger than archive.org even
> though there is great content there. I surf the bargain bins and buy a lot
> of media from yard sales.
>
> My library is almost 95% sourced second hand. P2P counts as second hand
> right?

Again, since HPR won't host any of the films or videos, and therefore,
won't be redistributing them, there's no reason why reviews can't be
about anything from anywhere. Certainly, Lord D didn't care about that
stuff for "10 Buck Review", and he was one of the most Open Culture
guys I've known. DVDs, Netflix, YouTube; as far as I'm concerned, it's
all fair game, and ultimately up to the episode host. I'm going to
focus on Public Domain and CC content, but that's just me.

So, unless I hear any compelling arguments against this -- and I
haven't yet -- I'm going to go ahead with this series idea. People can
join in and contribute their own reviews, or not, in any way they see
fit. All are welcome. These episodes will be easy enough to ignore for
those who don't like them; as always, if you'd like to see other
content on HPR, there's an easy solution to that, and you already know
what it is.

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 131, Issue 4

[lostnbronx]

From: Nigel Verity 

> On that basis I will certainly submit a review. Perhaps your idea could be
> expanded to include books or even music as well.

I don't see a reason why it couldn't. Certainly, it wouldn't bother me.


From: "Christopher M. Hobbs" 

> Granted I haven't contributed an episode in a few months but what do
> movies have to do with hackers?
>
> I don't mean to be a stick in the mud, general inquiry.  I have no
> strong feelings one way or the other about the idea.

I was wondering that, myself, which is was what prompted my question
to Ken, and then the community as a whole: does this qualify as HPR
material? Many of us were friends with Lord D, and it's only natural
to be partial to an idea like this when his name is attached. But,
asked another way, is HPR a decent venue for a general film review
series? If it wasn't "Lord D's Film Reviews", but just "LnB's Film
Reviews", does that leave you with a different feeling entirely?

Personally, I intend to work from categories that call back to other
HPR eps I've done, specifically showing how assessing films ties in
with what I've been talking about. I devised a point system based on
these categories which can be used for most films (art house stuff
might be a challenge).

So, I'm not even sure, myself, if this is a good fit for HPR, or if
it's better off as a show of its own.

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Re: [Hpr] Series Idea

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On 8/25/19, Nigel Verity  wrote:

> How strictly do you feel the term "free" should be interpreted? I'm sure
> most of us know how to get hold of movies for free as in beer, even if they
> are not necessarily 100% legitimate in terms of all the copyright
> legalities.

That's a good question. I guess I mean both free as in beer, and free
as in freedom. Either Public Domain, or some sort of free license.
Archive.org is a good source for content like this, but it's not the
only one.

Since HPR won't be hosting or distributing the films, I don't believe
we're looking at any issues concerning copyright.
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Re: [Hpr] Series Idea

[lostnbronx]

On 8/25/19, Jeroen Baten  wrote:
> Sounds like fun. Create a review panel, record the review. Let's do a
> tryout.
>
> Regards,
> Jeroen Baten

I think there was a film review series on HPR a while back that was a
group chat thing. That's a real hassle to edit (at least, I find it to
be). I'm more interested in something that's just run & gun, where
I'll record the show when I'm driving around in the car. It makes the
editing simple, and if it's not simple, I'm not likely to keep doing
it.

This would not, in any way, preclude others from doing reviews for the
series in whatever ways they'd like. For myself, simple and easy means
I can maintain it over time.

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[Hpr] Series Idea

[lostnbronx]

This is cribbed from a letter I sent to Ken, and he suggested I might
want to run it by the list.

I had an idea for an HPR series. As you might recall, among the many
podcasts he did, Lord Drachenblut had one called "Ten Buck Review",
wherein he reviewed movies from the bargain bin at Wal-mart that were
$10 or less. I did a review for that show, of a film off the Internet Archive.

I was thinking of starting up a series for HPR, called, "Lord D's Film
Reviews", where I grab a movie from some free source online, such as
Archive.org, and do a review of it following a few of the categories I
outlined in the "Random Elements of Storytelling" series.

It's "Lord D's" reviews, because the series will be dedicated to him.
I'm not a tech guy; I only worked with him through the review podcast.
For me, that will always be how I knew Lord D. The show notes will
have the links to the films. And also, of course, this would be an open
series, to which anyone could contribute.

So, my question is, can this be considered "of interest to hackers"?
I'm on the fence about this part, so opinions are very welcome.

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Re: [Hpr] Policy Change Scheduling Guidelines

[lostnbronx]

> 2. Policy change to Scheduling Guidelines
>
> Given we now host on the IA, we have more time needed to process the
> shows in the event that something goes wrong. To that end I would like
> to update the second point on the "Scheduling Guidelines" to say fill up
> slots in the coming two weeks, instead of the upcoming week.

Makes sense. Sounds good.

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 128, Issue 11

[lostnbronx]

On 5/27/19, hpr-requ...@hackerpublicradio.org
 wrote:
>1. HPR Community News - next Saturday on 2019-06-01T18:00:00Z

Please cover the recent discussion on this list about fair use vs.
open licenses. It might be good for the larger HPR listener community
to hear about it.

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 128, Issue 5

[lostnbronx]

The question really isn't about this one episode, is it? This is
really about policy. When it come to policy, I see the question in
these terms:

Is there reasonable concern about the copyright of the content?

I don't know about others, but the fact that this has become the
subject of so much discussion answers that question for me; both, for
this situation, and for any others in the future.

If the content, in total, isn't released under some sort of shareable
license -- either through the intent of the copyright holder, or
through the auspices of time and Public Domain -- then how is this
even a point of contention?

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Re: [Hpr] HPR By Request

[lostnbronx]

Nice hardware! Will you be using a separate mic, or the built in mics on
the Zoom? Either way, you'll probably want some sort of wind or pop screen
as well, so people aren't breathing into the mic as you interview them.

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>
>1. Re: Error and comment (Jeroen Baten)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:05:37 +0200
> From: Jeroen Baten 
> To: m...@raspberryvi.org, "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org"
> 
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Error and comment
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello Mike,
>
> Being the maker of this podcast I feel a response is in order.
>
> As stated in the podcast I am not an expert on speech synthesis.
>
> Also as stated in the podcast I was only evaluating programs with regard
> to the HPR intro texts.
>
> Having a visually impaired close friend as well as my own daughter (45%)
> I feel very sorry that I seem to have upset you.
>
> Please accept my apologies.
>
> regards,
>
> Jeroen Baten
>
> On 16-04-19 03:10, Mike Ray wrote:
> > I got an error when I tried to post a comment about the latest podcast
> > about TTS.
> >
> > I don't have the error code now as I pasted it into an email to admin
> > and the email bounced.
> >
> > I suspect it was because my comment was too long, here it is:
> >
> >
> > Condescending and sarcastic.
> >
> > Oh isn't text-to-speech such a laugh?
> >
> > I get really, really annoyed when people criticise eSpeak.
> >
> > Anybody who complains about it sounding robotic obviously was not around
> > thirty years ago.
> >
> > eSpeak's author, Jonathan Duddington, in my humble opinion, deserves a
> > Nobel prize.
> >
> > He has probably done more for blind and visually impaired computer
> > users, like me, all over the world, than any other individual or
> > organisation.
> >
> > In fact it is hard to name any single person who has had such an impact
> > on any group of users, apart perhaps from Linus Torvalds and Richard
> > Stallman.
> >
> > 1. It is Open Source.
> > 2. It is tiny, the memory footprint is small.
> > 3. It is snappy and can speak really fast, which is what we (blind
> > people) use when we get used to it, speeds that would make your hair
> curl.
> > 4. It probably has more language support than any other free and Open
> > Source synthesiser.
> > 5. It can run in a mode where it can return rendered speech, in the form
> > of PCM, to a calling program, so it can be used in other programs. I
> > don't think any other synth can do this.
> > 6. It can even return phonemes, a mode which I have used more than once
> > to provide a kind of 'fuzzy search' in a database.
> >
> > I regularly write and maintain library code, and application code, in C,
> > C++ and/or Python, as well as Perl, and many of these code libraries
> > have in excess of 100k lines.
> >
> > Including, incidentally, a library which used a combination of eSpeak
> > and OMX to render TTS directly on the GPU of a Raspberry Pi when 'they'
> > broke the ALSA driver on the Pi, which made the speech stutter and crash
> > the kernel, and refused to fix it for about four years.
> >
> > If I spent all my time bitching about how robotic eSpeak is I would
> > never get any work done.
> >
> > How much time do you spend when you should be writing code, worrying
> > about your wallpaper or the colour of your screen's background?
> >
> > Or do you just not notice it after a while?
> >
> > Well, after spending years writing code when I can't even see the Sun
> > when I stare directly at it, I can tell you I never notice what eSpeak
> > sounds like.
> >
> > I would probably be equally at home working with flite, festival, or
> > svox pico (which you missed).
> >
> > In addition, eSpeak is in use in NVDA, the free and Open Source Windows
> > screen reader which is currently giving the multi-hundreds of pounds
> > commercial offerings a real problem, and providing cash-strapped blind
> > users a chance.  Although now the Windows Narrator is catching up, I
> > still prefer NVDA and eSpeak.
> >
> > MaryTTS is bloated.  There was some excitement around it a few years
> > ago, but it has more or less faded away in the minds of the blind and VI
> > community, since it is so bloated and, as far as I know, nobody has ever
> > ma

Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 127, Issue 13

[lostnbronx]

It does not render in Vivaldi, for whatever that's worth.

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>4. Re: SGV Files (Roan Horning)
>5. Re: SGV Files (Sambong)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2019 09:00:01 +0200
> From: Ken Fallon 
> To: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org" 
> Subject: [Hpr] SGV Files
> Message-ID: <936e9135-4512-10a5-ed9c-05c07ddb6...@fallon.ie>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Can you check if you can open this please
>
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/media/images/vector/Richard_Querin_atomic.svg
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> To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] SGV Files
> Message-ID: 
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>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> On 15/04/19 08:00, Ken Fallon wrote:
>> Can you check if you can open this please
>>
>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/media/images/vector/Richard_Querin_atomic.svg
>
> Doesn't display for me in any browsers I have tried, nor in any image
> viewer.
>
> It opens in Inkscape but apparently it's 90 DPI where the latest
> standard is 96 DPI. Inkscape offers to convert this, but the result, if
> I let it, still isn't displayable for me.
>
> Dave
>
> - --
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> To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] SGV Files
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> On 4/15/19 4:30 AM, Dave Morriss wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA512
>>
>> On 15/04/19 08:00, Ken Fallon wrote:
>>> Can you check if you can open this please
>>>
>>> http://hackerpublicradio.org/media/images/vector/Richard_Querin_atomic.svg
>>
>> Doesn't display for me in any browsers I have tried, nor in any image
>> viewer.
>>
>> It opens in Inkscape but apparently it's 90 DPI where the latest
>> standard is 96 DPI. Inkscape offers to convert this, but the result, if
>> I let it, still isn't displayable for me.
>>
>> Dave
>
>
> Perhaps the file has changed since Dave's attempt, but it did open for
> me using inkscape 0.91.
>
> Steve
>
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>
>
>
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> Message: 4
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> From: Roan Horning 
> To: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org" 
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] SGV Files
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> I was not able to view it in my browser or using the Preview app (I think
> it is the default Gnome one) once I downloaded it to my laptop. I opened it
> in Inkscape, selected all, and then adjusted the page size to the selected
> drawing area, and then saved the file. I was then able to view it wit

[Hpr] I Don't Like This Day Of The Year

[lostnbronx]

At all.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 10:04 PM  wrote:

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>1. HPR LLC (Ken Fallon)
>2. Re: HPR LLC (cobra2)
>3. Re: HPR LLC (George De Bruin)
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2019 06:25:07 +0200
> From: Ken Fallon 
> To: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org" 
> Subject: [Hpr] HPR LLC
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hi All,
>
> As you know HPR has a long history of providing quality technical
> content. Over the years our growth has been organic supported by the
> generous donations from the community. Now that podcasting has hit the
> mainstream we are been contacted daily by corporations wishing to
> sponsor our shows. There has never been a better time to grow the
> network and expand into new untapped markets.
>
> To that end I am thrilled to announce the first of our initiatives to
> take HPR into the big leagues. As of today we will be partnering with
> Audible to bring the best they have to offer to our network. You
> couldn't ask for a sponsor that's more aligned with our mission and the
> interests of our listeners. Audible is the leading provider of digital
> audio books. With over 180,000 audio books and more to choose from,
> you're sure to find one that relates to our listeners.
> http://www.audibletrial.com/Information.aspx
>
> This is an important moment for HPR as this represents the first step in
> monetizing the potential of the platform while still remaining true to
> our core values. To ensure the highest standards of corporate
> governance, we have instigated "Hacker Public Radio LLC". This body will
> oversee the assets and intellectual property of the network going
> forward as we transition from the creative commons to the HPR Assignment
> License.
>
> Initial projections show an almost linear relationship between listeners
> and income. To give an example with 2,500 listeners, pre, mid and post
> roll add we could earn an additional $15,112 - $29,737 / year. To this
> end we will be incentivizing more popular topics as bringing in new
> listeners will increase growth and drive revenue increasing our value to
> the share holders.
>
> Which is why I am also thrilled to announce that we will be starting a
> revenue sharing scheme for any host where their partnership consistently
> exceeds expectations. More information on this can be found here:
> http://hackerpublicradio.org/series.php?id=83
>
> As you will hear on today's show, Dave has decided to step away from HPR
>  to spend more time with his family. We wish him every success in his
> future endeavors.
>
> --
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>
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> To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] HPR LLC
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> Best news I've heard all year! That's fantastic that HPR is going to be
> funded by the corporate entities that control mainstream media.
>
> Happy April 1st Ken.
>
>  Original Message 
> On Apr 1, 2019, 1:25 AM, Ken Fallon wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > As you know HPR has a long history of providing quality technical
> > content. Over the years our growth has been organic supported by the
> > generous donations from the community. Now that podcasting has hit the
> > mainstream we are been contacted daily by corporations wishing to
> > sponsor our shows. There has never been a better time to grow the
> > network and expand into new untapped markets.
> >
> > To that end I am thrilled to announce the first of our initiatives to
> > take HPR into the big leagues. As of today we will be partnering with
> > Audible to bring the best they have to offer to our network. You
> > couldn't ask for a sponsor that's more aligned with our mission and the
> > interests of our listeners. Audible is the leadi

Re: [Hpr] A proposed change to the show upload form

[lostnbronx]

I think it's a great idea! And I wholeheartedly endorse the idea of
making the Explicit/Clean flags mandatory as well, rather than
defaulting to Explicit. Sometimes I've missed setting this button when
uploading in a hurry, and my ep went out marked as Explicit, when it
wasn't.

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Re: [Hpr] Another HPR tune

[lostnbronx]

> From: Jeroen Baten 
> To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Another HPR tune
> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2018 20:41:23 +0200
>
> Hi,
>
> So I (blissfully ignorant) recently seem to have started a discussion
> on the current HPR tune.
>
> Personally, I find that it sounds very much out of date. But that's
> just me.
>
> Anyway, I talked to a friend of mine called Bart (he uses me as a
> communication proxy) who is both a lovely geek/nerd and also a (imho)
> briliant music composer.
>
> Anyway, a few hours after sending him the events so far, he replied to
> me with both a new arrangement of the current tune and also a
> Rosegarden file so people can play around with it.
>
> Upon someone saying it didn't sound "hackerish" enough he made the 3P
> version.
>
> Please find attached all files. Using the mid or rg files (from
> Rosegarden) anyone can now make variations on it.
>
> Please give me your honoust opinions and I will forward them to my
> composer friend Bart.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jeroen Baten
>
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These are great! Wonderful themes. I personally prefer the first
version, since I don't tend to focus on geeky subjects. Pass along my
compliments, please!

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Re: [Hpr] HPR Branding

[lostnbronx]

I know it's been brought up in the past, but if we're revisiting the
whole thing, is there a better voice available for espeak these days?
I like the idea of having the host announced, along with a simple
description of the ep, but every time I recommend an episode to
someone outside the HPR community, I have to warn them to ignore the
horrible robot voice at the beginning. It really sounds quite bad
compared to others that are out there, though I don't know what Free
Software options are currently available. If this one is still
state-of-the-art for scriptable FOSS voices, then there's nothing to
complain about, since nothing can be done. But if some better voices
do exist now, maybe we could look at swapping out the one we currently
use?

-LnB

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Re: [Hpr] Xoke's Reservation

[lostnbronx]

On 1/17/18, hpr-requ...@hackerpublicradio.org
 wrote:
> Xoke has requested that we reserve Fri 2018-02-23: hpr2495 for him.
>
> Any objections ?

Sounds good!


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Re: [Hpr] Klaatu's Community play RPG

[lostnbronx]

Klaatu suggested I offer this revised edition of the core rules for
"Dungeon Raiders" to the HPR community, for the convenience or
preference of anyone planning on playing in the game on UTC: Wed, Jan
31 01:00 to 08:00.

These are the same rules, but I tweaked the layout a bit, changed the
cover, and removed the interior art. The Creative Commons Zero license
of the original version made this possible, and, of course, this
version is released under the same license.

Grab that from here:

http://gopher.info-underground.net:70/lostnbronx/Dungeon-Raiders_revised-edition-d03.epub

I'll leave it up on my server until after the game.

Once again, the original rules can be obtained for free (as in beer
and freedom) from:

http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=99366

NOTE: you will have to create an account in order to download from
them. Not so, from me above.

I hope to see you all there!

> On 1/1/18, hpr-requ...@hackerpublicradio.org 
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>
>1. Community play RPG. Save the date. (Klaatu)

> Hi all.
>
> My plans to run a community, free-form RPG during the New Years call
> never came to fruition, mostly due to scheduling, but also for the
> realisation that the New Years Eve call is, as they say, what it is. The
> New Years Eve call cannot be tamed. It cannot be molded. It is free, and
> that is beautiful.
>
> ## NEW PLAN!
>
> I'll be in Boston for a week, later this January, so my timezone is less
> of a barrier. If you want to play an RPG, I'll be on the HPR Mumble
> Server on this day:
>
> UTC: Wed, Jan 31 01:00 to 08:00
> EST: Tue, Jan 30 20:00 to 03:00
>
> * We'll be crawling a HUGE dungeon without a story (unlike the series
> Thaj, Lobath, and I did on HPR), so you can pop in or pop out whenever
> is convenient for you. It won't affect the game at all.
>
> * No experience is required or expected. I'm happy to teach new players.
>
> * This is a game, and will be recorded (possibly released, possibly
> not), Some chat is expected, but too much off-topic chatter should be
> taken to another channel.
>
>
> ## Here is what you need to do to prepare:
>
> 0. Download "Dungeon Raiders", a public domain clone of D&D 1st Edition,
> from http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=99366. It's $0,
> but you can also support the publisher by throwing in a buck or two.
>
> 1. Create a character:
> a. Choose a class (epub page 6 to 9)
> b. If you're a magic user, review your spells (epub page 14+)
>
> 2. Get some dice or a dice roller app (or learn the random module of
> Python, or similar)
>
> 3. Show up ready to play!
>
>
> See you there!

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Re: [Hpr] Dropping the Call in Numbers

[lostnbronx]

I'd say it could go away without any problem. It was a good idea, but
it didn't get much play, and seems like it was hard to maintain.

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Re: [Hpr] HPR paying back to Anhonesthost.com

[lostnbronx]

Is it possible to offer Bitcoin as one of the donation options for
HPR/Anhonesthost? Considering tech make-up of this community, I should
think so, but I realize that's it's not necessarily straightforward.
Bitcoin would make donating easier for me, so this is mostly a selfish
request.

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 111, Issue 4

[lostnbronx]

> From: Kevin Wisher 

> I would suggest those wanting to participate in the game use another
> channel/room on the server so as not to interrupt the normal banter.

Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of doing it on the HPR New's Year's
Eve show? Are you saying you'd prefer it didn't happen on the show? I
think it would be a nice addition to this year's NYE special, but
maybe not everyone feels the same way.

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Re: [Hpr] New Years RPG

[lostnbronx]

Well, I'm in! I did open my mouth, so I'm sorta committed here. Anyone else?

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 100, Issue 2

[lostnbronx]

I second Klaatu's assessment.

Ham radio is such a huge, complicated topic, it might be very useful
to have one or two "non-hams" on the round-table, to act as surrogates
for ignorant listeners like me -- people whose only function would be
to ask basic questions about what ham radio is, how you get started,
and why it's still important.

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>1. Re: Amateur radio round table? (Klaatu)
>2. Re: Amateur radio round table? (kt4kb)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2017 07:14:38 +1300
> From: Klaatu 
> To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Amateur radio round table?
> Message-ID: <517e0c06-ea4d-4326-763c-c479858b8...@member.fsf.org>
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> On 05/01/17 23:41, Michael wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> with Ken repeatedly asking for certain topics, I wonder if it would make
>> sense to do a kind of round table session on mumble. Where we can just
>> meet and talk about, including but not limited to, amateur radio. If we
>> have a whole group of people, they can augment their answers or correct
>> things right in place. Anyone interested could join in with their
>> questions or be it just Ken sitting there and hitting a big buzzer each
>> time we come across a term in the conversation that he thinks needs
>> explanation for the rest of the audience.
>>
>> hw?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael (Mirwi)
>>
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> I'm not a HAM so I wouldn't be of much use at a roundtable on the topic,
> but since this is a "requested topic", I figure I may as well add to the
> resquest with an idea (or rather, an additional request).
>
> One thing that I've found frustrating is that nobody has ever sat down
> in front of a microphone or keyboard and told people EXACTLY how to get
> started.
>
> For instance, here's how to make a bowl of cereal:
>
> 0. Get any bowl.
> 1. Pour some Lucky Charms into it.
> 2. Pour milk into it.
> 3. Eat it with a spoon.
>
> This is not EVERY way to make cereal. It's the Ubuntu way. It tells me
> exactly what to do, without even mentioning that you could serve cereal
> in a mug, or that there are different brands of cereals, or that you can
> invent your own by combining granola (*mueslix) with some dried fruit,
> or whatever.
>
>
> Translate that to HAM (I'm making this up because I don't know):
> 0. Contact your local HAM licensing person, get trained.
> 1. Get a Foobar 6000SUX radio from www.ham.com
> 2. Tune in to frequency to 1337 hz
> 3. Announce your call sign
> 4. Profit!
>
> I believe if an HPR episode started with THAT, it would be invaluable to
> not just current HPR listeners, but HPR listeners for years to come.
>
> Just an idea!
>
> -klaatu
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:32:18 -0500
> From: kt4kb 
> To: Klaatu , hpr@hackerpublicradio.org
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Amateur radio round table?
> Message-ID: <4c3w9fylxh12h5sao2rg7tt2.1483731138...@email.android.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Hello,
> An Amateur radio roundtable, sure count me in!
> 73, Jon-KT4KB
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S?6 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
>  Original message From: Klaatu  Date:
> 1/6/17  1:14 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: hpr@hackerpublicradio.org Subject: Re:
> [Hpr] Amateur radio round table?
> On 05/01/17 23:41, Michael wrote:
>> Hello everybody,
>>
>> with Ken repeatedly asking for certain topics, I wonder if it would make
>> sense to do a kind of round table session on mumble. Where we can just
>> meet and talk about, including but not limited to, amateur radio. If we
>> have a whole group of people, they can augment their answers or correct
>> things right in place. Anyone interested could join in with their
>> questions or be it just Ken sitting there and hitting a big buzzer each
>> time we come across a term in the conversation that he thinks needs
>> explanation for the rest of the audience.
>>
>> hw?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael (Mirwi)
>>
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> I'm no

Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 99, Issue 7

[lostnbronx]

I believe the Explicit tag is adequate. Anything further becomes some
sort of ratings system, which is a rabbit hole no one wants to go
down. This has hardly been the first episode with enough bad language
or questionable content to make people stop and think, and it's not
the first time this conversation has come up in the community.

With a single tag designating Explicit content, people are free to
decide whether or not they want to listen. And they always have the
power to stop listening, when that content starts to exceed their
tolerance level.

Personally, I cherry-pick all my podcasts, including HPR episodes.
When I hear something I don't like, I stop listening and hit delete.
Do we really want this to become more complicated than that?

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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:58:29 +
> From: Dave Lee 
> To: x1101 ,"hpr@hackerpublicradio.org"
>   
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Spaceman
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
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> I have to disagree with this to a point.
>
> I think that having an explicit tag for the odd contextual swear word is
> fine, and I may want to listen to those episodes, so I'm not going to
> filter out episodes on the basis of the explicit tag.  However, having just
> listened to the episode in question, I would not want to listen to
> gratuitous swearing for the sake of swearing, or - in this case - name
> calling.
>
> The language doesn't bother me, but the (and I think this term was used in
> the episode comments) _aggressive_ nature of the language used - e.g.
> "you're a political f---wit", and the very offensive use of the term
> "retard".
>
> I do believe that spaceman was making a really good point, but I think it
> ended up being diluted by the tone used.
>
> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 6:50 PM x1101  wrote:
>
>> I concur, HPR is a network for people to express themselves, and while I
>> strongly believe in a censorship-free HPR, that doesn?t mean that we have
>> the right to force someone to listen to explicit material if they do not
>> wish to. This ?explicit? tag gives people a piece of information to make
>> that choice for themselves. I know that I will always tag my shows as
>> ?explicit?, because I don?t keep track of my language. While I appreciate
>> that there are other things that folks might find offensive outside of
>> technically explicit language, its a good start.
>>
>> Keep the vulgarity, keep the tag, and let us all decide for ourselves
>> what
>> we want to produce and what we want to listen to.
>>
>> /x1101
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> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 14:16:41 -0500
> From: x1101 
> To: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org" 
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] Spaceman
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> The question is, how to do we provide information to you (and others) that
> this might contain ?aggressive? language, while not restricting what folks
> say? Do we add a ?very explicit? tag? An Explicit-o-meter?? I can?t help but
> feel that if the answer we come up with is ?censorship? then we need to go
> back and find another one.
>
> /x1101
>
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Re: [Hpr] Lord D

[lostnbronx]

Now that just sucks.

I'll put together something in the next couple of days. Klaatu, should
we send our clips directly to you?

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Re: [Hpr] Download Stats Question

[lostnbronx]

> OK Let me explain. Should I count all the hits or just downloads ? The
> feeds or the audio files ? From every ip or filter the bots etc.
>
> So basically what would you grep the logs for a HPR download ?



I would think that each of those, parsed separately, would be of some
value.  It would allow you to see where the most action is coming
from.


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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 96, Issue 2

[lostnbronx]

I think Pokey has it.  He said something about it the other night.

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> Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 19:14:16 -0500
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> To: "hpr@hackerpublicradio.org" 
> Subject: [Hpr] Does the HPR table banner still exist and if so who has
>   it?
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> A pan network table (HPR, Podnutz, Joe Hecht so far) has been arranged for
> at OLF.  Did we ever have a new banner made and if so where is it?  Thanks
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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 84, Issue 16

[lostnbronx]

I know this may seem heretical, but I'm not entirely convinced that
there IS a problem here, except in the area of running out of shows
(which is always a danger).  I mean, what exactly IS a community
podcast?  To my way of mind, it's a show where listeners are free to
contribute, with no (or few) restrictions.  That describes HPR right
now.

The issue I believe we're really talking about is how to get more
voices on the show.  That's a very worthy discussion to have, but I
don't think it represents a crisis.  It's similar discussions we've
had in the past about how to get more women or girls to contribute;
how to get more minorities involved; how to get "non-techie" people to
make shows; etc.  In other ords, how to be more inclusive.  We
reexamine these issues, and return to them time and again, the way a
dynamic community of people should.

I don't believe we have a different problem here than we've ever have.
Yes, there have been a lot of eps from just a few voices lately -- but
has the show seen a loss of subscribers because of it?  If not, then
the silent majority does not mind.  Why, I remember years past when
Klaatu had at least one show up per week -- he was podcasting demon --
but no one complained, because everyone loves his content.  If
anything, that kind of stability gained us subscribers.

So long as people feel they CAN participate in this great community,
then we're doing what we should.  This means we always encourage them
to participate IF THEY WANT TO.  They don't have to, and should never
feel pressured to.  They owe us nothing.  They listen to us.  They
give us their time and attention.  Those are NOT small things --
really, they're the most important things in the world, and they give
them up for free.

So long as HPR's listeners continue to know that they are always
welcome, a few of them here and there will inevitably feel the crazy
urge to record their thoughts and add them to the queue.  And when it
happens, no matter how seldom, we know that the system we've built is
working.  In my opinion that's the very definition of a community
podcast, and HPR is walking the walk.

-LnB

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Re: [Hpr] Cybrary Cross-Promotional Offer

[lostnbronx]

I think an episode profiling what they offer, or even a series, would
be a better fit than advertising with or for them.  I'm not against an
organization utilizing different promotion methods per se, but, as has
been stated, HPR has always been careful to do so with shows and
groups that are closely in-keeping with its philosophy.

A perfect solution would be for someone from Cybray to contribute
their own HPR episodes about what it is they do, how they do it, and
why. So long as it's not an out-and-out infomercial, I would say that
the community (which includes HPR listeners as well as contributors)
would find value in it.

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[Hpr] HPR Music Confusion

[lostnbronx]

I know this has been discussed to death, but there seems to a be a
number of legacy "official" themes on this page:

http://hackerpublicradio.org/media/theme-music/

which is linked to in several places from this page:

http://hackerpublicradio.org/theme.php

The Intros aren't that big a deal, I guess, but there are Outros here
that still mention Lunar Pages -- which I was given to understand is
no longer a sponsor/host of the show.  Can we remove these older audio
files from the page?  They're bound to confuse people, like they did
me.

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Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 72, Issue 16

[lostnbronx]

I think it's clear that HPR needs a couple of regular shows -- that
is, tech podcasts released through HPR instead of on the producer's
own on a regular basis.  I, personally, don't feel qualified to
produce a tech-based program, and I don't have a buttload of time,
anyway, but I'd be willing to get together on Mumble or something with
anyone who would like to brainstorm ideas for regular podcasts to be
released through the HPR label.  A few ideas off the top of my head:

1.)  Science and Technology in Film and Television -- the host(s) pick
a different movie or show each episode, and then talk/complain about
what the producers of said film or show got right, and what they got
wrong -- and maybe what Hollywood ALWAYS gets wrong.

2.)  Makerspace Update -- Someone with a local maker movement does
regular interviews with the people working there.  It could even be
interviews with the same people over and over, because we would get to
hear about their progress, and become invested in their projects.  I,
personally, do not have a Makerspace near me that I know of, but a lot
of people seem to these days.

3.)  An A-toZ project of some kind, by someone who narrates every step
along the way (for example, "I'm building a computer.  I've purchased
THIS case, for THIS reason; I've purchased THIS power supply for THIS
reason.  Now, the power supply doesn't seem to fit.  I'll have to
drill out some new screw holes. Okay, now I've drilled the holes,and
the power supply fits in with some fiddling.  Next episode, I'll be
putting in the motherboard and the graphics card..."

These are just idle ideas, of course.  If anybody is interested in
talking about taking on a regular commitment like this, I'd be willing
to as well.

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>2. Re: 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show (Ken Fallon)
>3. Re: 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show (Ken Fallon)
>4. Re: 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show (x1101)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 22:09:23 -0400
> From: "James E. Toebes" 
> To: Charles Thayer 
> Cc: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List ,
>   Nigel Verity 
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
> Message-ID: <1411092563.4236.8.camel@localhost.PK5001Z>
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> There was a separate suggestion about 3 days a week.   What about a
> composite of that with this.   Assuming it is possible.   Have a show 4
> days a week.  For the 5 day,  assuming there is a simple way to do it
> (not sure if mumble can be configured for it),   A call in where people
> record up to a 30 second snip that are jammed together and published as
> a feedback episode (reserve Monday each week).  Other possibilities
> might be a google voice mailbox that we could grab all the recordings
> from.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Thayer 
> To: Nigel Verity 
> Cc: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing List 
> Subject: Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 15:19:37 -0700
>
> Or we could urge interesting people we know to record or phone in a
> show, and then help them with the show notes.
>
> There's a Mumble server for interviews, too. An interviewee could become
> a new host.
>
> Charles (the Swamped) in NJ
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
> From:"Nigel Verity" 
> Date:Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 5:34 PM
> Subject:Re: [Hpr] 25 Days since anyone uploaded a show
>
>
> Hi Ken
>
> I imagine that, more often than not, the first you know about a show is
> when it arrives on the HPR server, or the originator asks for the FTP
> details, This can't be very helpful from a planning perspective.
>
> Perhaps this mailing list could provide a mechanism for people
> "pledging" shows for delivery over the coming weeks. Setting a target
> week rather than a specific date is probably sufficient granularity.
> Clearly it can't be binding, but I'm sure most people would take a
> pledge to deliver seriously. It would also give advance notice of
> forthcoming subjects, which in itself may inspire others.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Regards
>
> Beeza
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>> Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 18:32:33 +0200
>> From: Ken Fallon 
>> To: HPR Hacker Public Radio Mailing Li

Re: [Hpr] Hpr Digest, Vol 72, Issue 12

[lostnbronx]

I second the Sanza Clip idea.  The recording quality is remarkably
good, considering what it is.  I've found you can still get a fair
amount of handling noise with it attached to a stick, but if you keep
a steady grip on it, it works very well this way.  Another approach
for interviews is to use the integrated clip and attach it to the brim
of a hat -- then you just stand close to the interviewee, and talk
normally.  There's no handling noise this way, and far less chance of
any breathing noises on the mic.

One other advantage of the Sanza Clip: it's quite cheap, compared to
other solutions you might find out there.

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> A decent built-in microphone will, of course, be a sensitive microphone. The
> more sensitive it is the more likely it is to pick up the sound of fingers
> scrabbling for the buttons. I have a Zoom H2 (about 3 years old) and the
> sound reproduction is fantastic, but the controls are very small and lacking
> in feel, and the display is almost illegible without a magnifier. For all
> that, I've had some very successful results from it.
>
> If you're interviewing, lapel mikes are always a good idea because the
> distance between mouth and mike is more or less constant. That helps keep
> the levels more even.
>
> A cheaper option is a device called an Easi-Speak.
>
> http://www.learningresources.com/product/easi-speak--8482-+usb+recorder.do
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> It looks like a child's toy, and probably is intended as that if I'm honest,
> but the recording quality is excellent, though only mono. My daughter was
> given one but I've used it more than she has. Definitely worth a look if
> you're on a budget.
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Re: [Hpr] Stardrifter RSS

[lostnbronx]

Thanks to the magic Perl mojo of David Morriss, the Stardrifter RSS
feeds are working fine now!  Thanks to David and everyone else in this
wonderful community for their help.  Grab the feeds here:

http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/rss/rss.stardri.ogg.xml
http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/rss/rss.stardri.mp3.xml

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Re: [Hpr] Next two AudioBookClub books

[lostnbronx]

A fixed feed would be greatly appreciated!  I confess I don't really
understand RSS very well.  It probably shows.

I was using archive.org for hosting until about half-way through the
production of the audiobook, but then they changed in their uploading
interface (after all these years), and I suddenly couldn't get into my
account anymore.  Getting technical help out of them is like wandering
in the desert, so I decided to put everything on a shared server slice
that I can control.  I redid the entire feed at that time, but I guess
I did it wrong.

BTW, I use Listgarden to generate the feeds.  There's probably a way
to get the  tag in there.  I'll look into it for the
future.

-Thanks!

On 8/1/14, Dave Morriss  wrote:
> On 01/08/14 16:57, lostnbronx wrote:
>> FWIW, gpodder grabs both feeds just fine.
>
> I stand in awe of gPodder. Someone has presumably written code that goes
> "huh, no enclosure, but there's a link which looks like one, how about I
> see if that can be downloaded?". Not what's supposed to happen according
> to the RSS specification (as I understand it) but it gets the job done.
>
> The links all point to 'downloads.cavalcadeaudio.com', but the
> enclosures that exist point to 'archive.org'. Is that significant?
>
> Dave
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Re: [Hpr] Next two AudioBookClub books

[lostnbronx]

FWIW, gpodder grabs both feeds just fine.

On 8/1/14, x1101  wrote:
> Well, that's what I get for trying to figure out what's wrong as I go to
> bed.
>
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> On Aug 1, 2014, Dave Morriss  wrote:
>>On 01/08/14 02:30, x1101 wrote:
>>> I can't tell if the issue is on my end or what,  but when I grabbed
>>the
>>> street candles rss feed all my reader showed was 4 episodes. I've
>>> manually inspected the feed and it shows all 40 episodes,  but
>>> pocketcast on Android doesn't see them.  Also, it only reads the mp3
>>feed.
>>>
>>> Thoughts anyone?
>>
>>Looking at the RSS feeds, both contain the relevant number of 
>>tags but the ogg feed contains no enclosures and the mp3 contains only
>>4.
>>
>>The  tag is the bit that shows podcatchers where to download
>>the media - in case I'm not being clear.
>>
>>Don't be confused by the  tags, that's meant to be a permanent
>>unique ID string for each . These are often URLs but don't have
>>to
>>be. They will not be used by podcatchers to download anything.
>>
>>Both feeds seem mis-configured somehow.
>>
>>Dave
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Re: [Hpr] Next two AudioBookClub books

[lostnbronx]

You can grab "Street Candles" at:

http://www.cavalcadeaudio.com/stardrifter.html

RSS options are there on the side.

I'm grabbing "Revolution Radio" today, but I'm not sure about making the review.

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Re: [Hpr] Next two AudioBookClub books

[lostnbronx]

I don't even have a tar or zip file for "Street Candles" yet, so
"Revolution Radio" is one up on me!  The size total for all mp3 files
in "SC" is something like 1.2 GB.  The ogg files are something like
850 MB total.  Grabbing them through the Stardrifter RSS feed is
probably the easiest way to go.

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Re: [Hpr] Next AudioBookClub

[lostnbronx]

Is that "David," me?  I don't really need the calendar notifications,
because I follow Audiobook Club announcements on this mailing list.
Do you still intend to announce them here?  I find this list very
convenient and informative.

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Re: [Hpr] Forums

[lostnbronx]

I, too, vote for integrating the existing forums (if we're having a
vote).  It seems logical to use the tools at hand if they'll do the
job, instead of going out and getting new ones.

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