Re: [hugin-ptx] hugin build error

2009-11-16 Thread Kornel Benko
Am Tuesday 17 November 2009 schrieb vinct:
> I have an error when build hugin. The error message is
> 
> ..
> Scanning dependencies of target celeste_standalone
> [ 44%] Building CXX object src/celeste/CMakeFiles/
> celeste_standalone.dir/Main.cpp.o
> Linking CXX executable celeste_standalone
> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2_gl-2.8
> collect2: ld return 1
> make[2]: *** [src/celeste/celeste_standalone] error 1
> make[1]: *** [src/celeste/CMakeFiles/celeste_standalone.dir/all] error
> 2
> make: *** [all] error 2
> 
> My system is Ubuntu8.04. Hugin release is hugin-2009.2.0.tar.gz. The
> dependence including Enblend and Libpano have been installed.
> 
> It seems like the build require wx_gtk2_gl-2.8, but what package
> includes this lib?
> 
> Thanks.
> Vinct.


I would expect something like wxWidgets-gl. At least this is so on openSuSE.

Kornel

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[hugin-ptx] hugin build error

2009-11-16 Thread vinct
I have an error when build hugin. The error message is

..
Scanning dependencies of target celeste_standalone
[ 44%] Building CXX object src/celeste/CMakeFiles/
celeste_standalone.dir/Main.cpp.o
Linking CXX executable celeste_standalone
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwx_gtk2_gl-2.8
collect2: ld return 1
make[2]: *** [src/celeste/celeste_standalone] error 1
make[1]: *** [src/celeste/CMakeFiles/celeste_standalone.dir/all] error
2
make: *** [all] error 2

My system is Ubuntu8.04. Hugin release is hugin-2009.2.0.tar.gz. The
dependence including Enblend and Libpano have been installed.

It seems like the build require wx_gtk2_gl-2.8, but what package
includes this lib?

Thanks.
Vinct.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Can't build Enblend under Windows

2009-11-16 Thread J. Schneider
Ryan Sleevi schrieb:
> If you visit the Wiki page, you can see the instructions for how to do this
> - http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_SDK_%28MSVC_2008%29 - including the
> necessary patch files -

Do I understand correctly that the instructions on this page also apply 
if I have installed (unpacked) the precompiled SDK and some components 
are broken? Then this is what I need. And I seem to have exactly 
Rotareneg's problem
(http://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/msg/c6c6f88265f66700)
so I have to get down to installing UnxUtils and patching.

regards
Joachim

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Something like fog on stitched pano

2009-11-16 Thread Carl von Einem
Übersee am Chiemsee?

Carl von Einem schrieb am 16.11.2009 22:53 Uhr:
> Did you use a fixed exposure or did you use some kind of automatic exposure?
> Can you also post your .pto file so we can have a look at the amount of
> overlap your single images have? Do you shoot JPGs? It somehow looks (to
> me) as if enblend has to combine parts of several images that contain
> extreme contrasts.
> 
> Maybe masking in the right areas could help.
> 
> BTW, where in Bavaria is that church?
> 
> Carl
> 
> grow schrieb am 16.11.2009 21:06 Uhr:
>> Can,
>> It looks like the sort of result you get when you have a picture
>> totally out of place, then it ends up being "smeared" over the others.
>>
>> Given the subject I'd guess that you are starting from bracketed
>> exposures?  I usually do that in the sequence:  Normal-exposure, Under-
>> exposure Over-exposure.  If so I would start by checking the lower
>> levels of the stacks particularly the zenith and nadir shots.
>>
>> An easy way to check for this is to use the  Fast Preview window and
>> first of all deselect all the "Normal" exposure shots, then deselect
>> the "Under" exposures and then the Over-exposures.  You will probably
>> find one shot in there somewhere for which the positional parameters
>> have gone way off there will be a shot of the floor or the ceiling
>> that is across the middle of the wall.  Typically this will have
>> happened if it has somehow got no control points allocated ... perhaps
>> it was very over or under exposed and the control point generator
>> could find no matches.
>>
>> So either leave it out all together or if it has SOME useful detail
>> reset it's position and add some control points by hand.
>>
>> Let us know if that helps or not.
>>
>> all the best
>>
>> George
>>
>> On 16 Nov, 16:41, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
>>> Sorry, you are right. There's a picture called example_fog.jpg on
>>> ehich you can see the problem.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Can
>>>
>>> On 16 Nov., 17:32, Bart van Andel  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Could you post an example to show what you mean by "fog"? From your
 report it's impossible to pinpoint the problem...
 --
 Bart
 On 16 nov, 15:52, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
> i've taken pictures for an cubic panorama. They fit very well but in
> the output file i get on some areas something like fog on the picture.
> Does anyne no this problem using enblend?
> 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Something like fog on stitched pano

2009-11-16 Thread Carl von Einem
Did you use a fixed exposure or did you use some kind of automatic exposure?
Can you also post your .pto file so we can have a look at the amount of
overlap your single images have? Do you shoot JPGs? It somehow looks (to
me) as if enblend has to combine parts of several images that contain
extreme contrasts.

Maybe masking in the right areas could help.

BTW, where in Bavaria is that church?

Carl

grow schrieb am 16.11.2009 21:06 Uhr:
> Can,
> It looks like the sort of result you get when you have a picture
> totally out of place, then it ends up being "smeared" over the others.
> 
> Given the subject I'd guess that you are starting from bracketed
> exposures?  I usually do that in the sequence:  Normal-exposure, Under-
> exposure Over-exposure.  If so I would start by checking the lower
> levels of the stacks particularly the zenith and nadir shots.
> 
> An easy way to check for this is to use the  Fast Preview window and
> first of all deselect all the "Normal" exposure shots, then deselect
> the "Under" exposures and then the Over-exposures.  You will probably
> find one shot in there somewhere for which the positional parameters
> have gone way off there will be a shot of the floor or the ceiling
> that is across the middle of the wall.  Typically this will have
> happened if it has somehow got no control points allocated ... perhaps
> it was very over or under exposed and the control point generator
> could find no matches.
> 
> So either leave it out all together or if it has SOME useful detail
> reset it's position and add some control points by hand.
> 
> Let us know if that helps or not.
> 
> all the best
> 
> George
> 
> On 16 Nov, 16:41, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
>> Sorry, you are right. There's a picture called example_fog.jpg on
>> ehich you can see the problem.
>>
>> Cheers, Can
>>
>> On 16 Nov., 17:32, Bart van Andel  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> Could you post an example to show what you mean by "fog"? From your
>>> report it's impossible to pinpoint the problem...
>>> --
>>> Bart
>>> On 16 nov, 15:52, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
 Hi Guys,
 i've taken pictures for an cubic panorama. They fit very well but in
 the output file i get on some areas something like fog on the picture.
 Does anyne no this problem using enblend?
> 

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Can't build Enblend under Windows

2009-11-16 Thread J. Schneider
Rotareneg schrieb:
> I was trying to follow the Wiki instructions at
> http://wiki.panotools.org/Build_Hugin_for_Windows_with_SDK which seems
> to be missing "several" (i.e. many)  important steps, the precompiled
> SDK likewise. However, I did, with your help, (thanks!) get enblend to
> build.
> 
> I'll go over the process again and take notes so I can try to fill in
> the blanks on the wiki.

I would be grateful. As you can see in 
groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx/browse_thread/thread/404a39038ab44d29
I am trying to build hugin (and enblend) on windows myself, though 
obviously with a lot less knowledge.
Maybe I should start to incorporate my temporary findings at
http://www.joachimschneider.info/moving_target.html
into the wiki. (Btw, this level of detail is what me dummy needs to get 
something done ...)

regards
Joachim

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Something like fog on stitched pano

2009-11-16 Thread grow
Can,
It looks like the sort of result you get when you have a picture
totally out of place, then it ends up being "smeared" over the others.

Given the subject I'd guess that you are starting from bracketed
exposures?  I usually do that in the sequence:  Normal-exposure, Under-
exposure Over-exposure.  If so I would start by checking the lower
levels of the stacks particularly the zenith and nadir shots.

An easy way to check for this is to use the  Fast Preview window and
first of all deselect all the "Normal" exposure shots, then deselect
the "Under" exposures and then the Over-exposures.  You will probably
find one shot in there somewhere for which the positional parameters
have gone way off there will be a shot of the floor or the ceiling
that is across the middle of the wall.  Typically this will have
happened if it has somehow got no control points allocated ... perhaps
it was very over or under exposed and the control point generator
could find no matches.

So either leave it out all together or if it has SOME useful detail
reset it's position and add some control points by hand.

Let us know if that helps or not.

all the best

George

On 16 Nov, 16:41, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
> Sorry, you are right. There's a picture called example_fog.jpg on
> ehich you can see the problem.
>
> Cheers, Can
>
> On 16 Nov., 17:32, Bart van Andel  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Could you post an example to show what you mean by "fog"? From your
> > report it's impossible to pinpoint the problem...
>
> > --
> > Bart
>
> > On 16 nov, 15:52, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
>
> > > Hi Guys,
>
> > > i've taken pictures for an cubic panorama. They fit very well but in
> > > the output file i get on some areas something like fog on the picture.
> > > Does anyne no this problem using enblend?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: (Probably very basic) help needed for build process on WinXP: missing files?

2009-11-16 Thread J. Schneider
Hi Ryan,

> See
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2789320&group_id=77506&atid=
> 550443
> 
> Look at the diff files for libxmi-1.2 and lcms-1.18
> 
> tiff.h can be found in wxWidgets, unless you're specifically linking against
> a newer version for the larger file support (note: if doing so, make sure
> you're not duplicating symbols in wxWidgets)
> 
> More details are at http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_SDK_%28MSVC_2008%29 

To be honest, this is far beyond my level of skills. I'm not a 
programmer at all. (You can't count the remainders of some TurboPascal 
from the late 80s.) So I barely know what a diff is, let alone read it. 
Neither do I have a clue what a symbol is (I would guess some kind of 
variable).
My trying to build hugin is something like the effort to make an SDK or 
a documentation that is foolproof, and I kind of volunteer as the fool 
needed therefore ...

But do I understand you correctly: If I have tiff-3.xx listed separately 
in my list of include directories (instead of 
wxWidgets-2.8.10\include\wx where tiff.h is found as well) something can 
go wrong or special measures have to be taken. I think Yuv said that the 
larger file support (and some other improvements?) make it worth while 
using the latest tiff version. What would I have to do to avoid 
duplicating symbols - or would using the wxWidgets version be a shorter 
(though less perfect) solution to a working build?
And: would using the wxWidgets version work just as simple as putting 
wxWidgets-2.8.10\include\wx into the include list instead of tiff-3.xx?

Best regards
Joachim

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[hugin-ptx] Re: (Probably very basic) help needed for build process on WinXP: missing files?

2009-11-16 Thread J. Schneider
 > I took my moving_target.html and my huginbase directory to reconsider
 > where I was standing.
One more thing that I noticed:
In the properties of enblend I don't see come include folders any more 
that used to be listed there (at least according to my email): glew and 
glut. No clue why, but I'll add them again.
..\..\glew\include
..\..\glut\include

regards
Joachim

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Something like fog on stitched pano

2009-11-16 Thread Can-C . Dörtbudak
Sorry, you are right. There's a picture called example_fog.jpg on
ehich you can see the problem.

Cheers, Can

On 16 Nov., 17:32, Bart van Andel  wrote:
> Could you post an example to show what you mean by "fog"? From your
> report it's impossible to pinpoint the problem...
>
> --
> Bart
>
> On 16 nov, 15:52, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys,
>
> > i've taken pictures for an cubic panorama. They fit very well but in
> > the output file i get on some areas something like fog on the picture.
> > Does anyne no this problem using enblend?

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Something like fog on stitched pano

2009-11-16 Thread Bart van Andel
Could you post an example to show what you mean by "fog"? From your
report it's impossible to pinpoint the problem...

--
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On 16 nov, 15:52, Can-C. Dörtbudak  wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> i've taken pictures for an cubic panorama. They fit very well but in
> the output file i get on some areas something like fog on the picture.
> Does anyne no this problem using enblend?

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[hugin-ptx] Something like fog on stitched pano

2009-11-16 Thread Can-C . Dörtbudak
Hi Guys,

i've taken pictures for an cubic panorama. They fit very well but in
the output file i get on some areas something like fog on the picture.
Does anyne no this problem using enblend?

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: binary distribution policy

2009-11-16 Thread Bruno Postle
2009/11/16 Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com>:
>
> As I said already, do you want more people to help develop hugin?
> offering them a way to actually USE the program (without spitting
> vitriol about how they should compile the damn thing themselves) is
> probably a good first step, no? :-)

No-one here is saying that users should compile Hugin themselves, and
Yuval certainly isn't saying that. I don't think users on Linux should
be compiling it either.

I could probably buy a copy of Windows and create a Hugin installer,
but since I don't use Hugin on Windows that installer would get
absolutely no QA.  The installer needs to be maintained by somebody
who uses Windows*, this is why every time somebody asks for a Windows
installer we say "sorry there isn't one, would you like to take charge
of it?".

* though the .exe files could be cross-compiled on Linux with mingw,
this would have a number of advantages.

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: binary distribution policy

2009-11-16 Thread Oskar Sander
Thanks for your Windows build Allard!  I'm using it currently (alternating
with Yuv's layout-branch test build) and it works great so far for me.

I think it is good to get something "out there" for windows like you've
done, and then we can perfect the releases based on that.  The wiki and
knowledgebase are growing, and the threshold for building is getting lower
from each step.

I think the Hugin's new release model is great, not least because put's the
issue about Windows builds in stark light.

Cheers
O


2009/11/16 allard 

> Okay, before people start speculating about how I feel about Yuv's
> comments on my installer or grossly misspelling my name (en dat van
> een landgenoot, Harry!) maybe I should step in.
>
> -Firstly, I want to make clear that I have had a lot of help from Yuv,
> both in learning to first build hugin and in creating the installer,
> even after it was clear that my sight was set a bit lower than his
> when it comes to overall quality of the package. His comments did not
> come as a surprise to me and have not discouraged me in any way. In
> fact I agree with many of his criticisms on the installer. I disagree
> only on whether those points justified not releasing the installer and
> keeping Windows users on the lame 0.7 version.
> -Secondly, I once was one of those Windows users that just downloaded
> the binary and never contributed anything. In fact, to most of the
> other OSS projects I use, I still am. It can take time for an itch to
> develop. I never would have been part of the project if there had been
> no windows binaries for the 0.6 and 0.7 releases. My primary
> motivation was to give a hand to all those whose skills do not include
> software development, without expecting anything in return. But apart
> from that I also think accompanying each release with a Mac and
> Windows binary will eventually help keeping the project alive and
> vibrant.
>
> Allard
>
>
> On Nov 15, 2:07 pm, Harry van der Wolf  wrote:
> > 2009/11/15 Harry van der Wolf 
> >
> >
> >
> > > Just the simple fact that nobody takes the initiative to come forward
> as
> > > volunteer is disappointing.
> > > Again: thanks to those who already did a great job in building windows
> > > binaries. It's just that there are obviously not enough builders.
> >
> > > regards,
> > > Harry
> >
> > I have to apologize here: In a parallel thread on this mailing list that
> has
> > been dormant for a while, two windows volunteers are trying to build
> Hugin
> > for windows. Great! (And guess who is helping them)
> > Still, on such a big community more builders are expected to step
> forward.
> >
> > Harry
>
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: binary distribution policy

2009-11-16 Thread michael crane
I does seem really a lot of work to try to get all the stuff to work
properly on windows.
I appreciate it is ( or used ) to be difficult to get any useful
information from microsoft but is there any way  the process could be
simplified. I don't understand coding at all except for reading the
odd config file but is there not a list of substitutes so the building
works on windows. I'm loath to dive in because it seems at present
somebody spends hours changing one or two lines getting something to
work then it gets changed and they have to start again ?

regards

mick


2009/11/16 Jeffrey Martin <360cit...@gmail.com>:
>
>
> On Nov 15, 12:44 pm, Stefan Peter  wrote:
>> As I have mentioned in another thread, hugin is not about market share
>> or world domination.
>
>
> Providing 90% of the computer users out there with a usable installer
> for this program isnt' "world domination". It's common sense.
>
> As I said already, do you want more people to help develop hugin?
> offering them a way to actually USE the program (without spitting
> vitriol about how they should compile the damn thing themselves) is
> probably a good first step, no? :-)
>
> Just because it's open source doesn't mean it should be intentionally
> difficult to even try the product (yes, product).
>
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[hugin-ptx] Re: binary distribution policy

2009-11-16 Thread Jeffrey Martin


On Nov 15, 12:44 pm, Stefan Peter  wrote:
> As I have mentioned in another thread, hugin is not about market share
> or world domination.


Providing 90% of the computer users out there with a usable installer
for this program isnt' "world domination". It's common sense.

As I said already, do you want more people to help develop hugin?
offering them a way to actually USE the program (without spitting
vitriol about how they should compile the damn thing themselves) is
probably a good first step, no? :-)

Just because it's open source doesn't mean it should be intentionally
difficult to even try the product (yes, product).

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[hugin-ptx] Re: binary distribution policy

2009-11-16 Thread Jeffrey Martin
sorry, I don't have a compiler.

That might not mean i'm useless, though ;-)



On Nov 15, 12:15 pm, Stefan Peter  wrote:
> Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > All the time spent arguing about how lazy and useless people are (i'm
> > not naming any names here), the windows version could have been
> > compiled. Numerous times.
>
> Ok then, please stop arguing and start your compiler ..
>
> Regards
>
> Stefan Peter

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Enblend Version

2009-11-16 Thread Nicolas Pelletier
Excellent, Thanks for the info.

nick

On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:43 AM, cspiel  wrote:

> Nicolas -
>
> On Nov 16, 3:54 am, Nicolas Pelletier 
> wrote:
> > What is the current official version for enblend?
>
> Version 3.2 is current.  It will be
> superseded by version 4.0 in the second half of
> December 2009.
>
>
> > Is 4.0 out (and I missed a mail)
>
> No, 4.0 has not been release yet; we
> just have had pre-releases.  And no, you have
> not missed a thing.
>
> However, Enblend/Enfuse version 4.0 will be
> released _before_ 2009-12-13.  We will put up
> one or more "Release Candidates" on SourceForge
> at
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/enblend/files/
> until that.
>
>
> > -- snip --
>
>
> > Since I'm also in the (too slow) process of trying to build hugin,
> wondering
> > what I should target?
>
> I don't know anything about Hugin, as
> its release schedule is completely unrelated to
> ours.  I can tell you about Enblend/Enfuse,
> though.
>
> As the release of version 4.0 is at most four
> weeks away from us -- and so much has changed
> between 3.2 and 4.0 -- I'd suggest, you
> familiarize yourself with 4.0 rather than 3.2.
>
> HTH!
>
>
> Cheers,
>Chris
>(Enblend/Enfuse Release Manager)
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Re: [hugin-ptx] Masking in hugin

2009-11-16 Thread Seb Perez-D
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 03:16, Timothee  wrote:
> I'm trying to do a 360 pano with my kids for xmas and they just won't
> stay still, so I definitely will have to do some level of masking.

You can also edit the TIF images in Gimp (or Photoshop), erasing the
bits you don't want. A bit more cumbersome perhaps, but it works. Just
be sure to uncheck the box "Cropped output" in the options to nona, in
the Stitching tab.

> Will there eventually be a GUI tool within hugin itself to do masking?

There is indeed such a project going on, but not advanced enough I
think. It was a 2008 Google Summer of Code:
http://maskingingui.blogspot.com/

http://wiki.panotools.org/SoC_2008_Masking_in_GUI

Best,

Seb

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