Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: autopano-sift-c working better than cpfind on small rectilinear images

2011-08-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 14 August 2011 at 15:11:17 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:

Sorry, just got round to reading this thread.

 On August 14, 2011 05:47:43 am kfj wrote:

 If, of course, we'd find that in certain use scenarios one definitely
 outshines the other, this would be helpful. Not that I expect this to
 happen

 I also do not expect this to happen, but if we don't collect
 information we won't find out.  And it is often such borderline
 cases that help the next iteration of development that eventually
 brings about a third generation tool that is superior to both the
 first and second generation.

FWIW, I have a scenario where I find that the control point generators
generate very different control points from the ones I choose myself
when I'm doing it manually.  Every week I make a number of panoramas,
the most complicated of which is at http://tinyurl.com/3mcw2bb

This is a two-row 360° panorama made out of 24 images, each
tone-mapped from three images.  The subject has both straight lines
and corners (timber) and soft transitions (leaves and other
vegetation).  The leaves can move both between individual tone-mapped
images and also between the background images for each tone-mapped
images.  The timber stays where it is.

But all the CP generators I have tried go for the leaves.  That's a
particular problem when it's windy.  When I do it manually, I choose a
spot or a corner on the timber, and things work much better.

Clearly there's a reason why the CP generators make this kind of
choice, but I don't understand it.  Are there some technical reasons
why it's done this way?  Or are there generators that do choose hard
surfaces?

Greg
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Re: [hugin-ptx] OSX Different Stitch Result when stitching from Hugin vs Batcher

2011-08-20 Thread Jordan Miller
this will be very hard to troubleshoot by email. I think we need a
standard set of images people can stitch for learning the GUI and for
testing different Hugin versions. I only have microscopy images so I
don't have any I could provide.

does anyone have a default set (maybe 10 images or so) that they'd
like to share?

by the way... for newer versions of Hugin I always restitch and old
.pto file to make sure everything is working great before I try a new
set of files.

jordan



On Aug 19, 2011, at 10:39 PM, Battle battlebr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've been having problems getting the PTBatcher to run consistently on
 OS in both 10.6 with the newer versions of Hugin Harry has been
 providing.

 So I thought I try a couple of older version of Hugin.  I thought I
 process a bunch of smaller 3 to 8 image panos at home this weekend on
 my 10.5.8 notebook intel core 2 duo.

 Using a 4 image pto with 4 images in a column so each image only
 overlaps one other.

 In 2010.4.0 the final image contains only the bottom of 4 vertically
 aligned images, and the crop is off left to right as well.

 In 2010.1.0 svn4834 which is a version that had worked well for me in
 the past
 If I stitch directly from Hugin I get a good result.
 If I stitch using PT batcher, I get good remapped files for the top
 three images, but the fourth is cropped badly from left to right. The
 assembled image contains only the 4th image.

 I've never seen this behavior before.

 Any thoughts on how to troubleshoot this issue to determine what is
 happening?

 Battle

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Re: [hugin-ptx] OSX Different Stitch Result when stitching from Hugin vs Batcher

2011-08-20 Thread Markku Kolkka
20.8.2011 17:58, Jordan Miller kirjoitti:
 this will be very hard to troubleshoot by email. I think we need a
 standard set of images people can stitch for learning the GUI and for
 testing different Hugin versions. I only have microscopy images so I
 don't have any I could provide.
 
 does anyone have a default set (maybe 10 images or so) that they'd
 like to share?

Adobe has published panoramic image sets under the MIT license, mainly
for testing control point generators:
http://sourceforge.net/adobe/adobedatasets/panoramas/home/Home/

The actual images are fairly small grayscale PNG files.

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[hugin-ptx] Hugin V 2011.0.0 problems

2011-08-20 Thread kabul2021
Hello,

I am trying to correct some lens distortions for measurement
purposes.  ( such as converting an oblique image to a flat-on one ).
For training myself on Hugin, I downloaded the 311.jpeg picture
mentioned on Hugin
Tutorial - Perspective correction at Sourceforge.net/Tutorials,
Followed the instructions down to the letter  and when I push the
stitch
button, program asks are you sure you want to stitch such a large  (
4.3 gigapixels) panorama ?
Control points don't stay where I put them, I have to control the CPs
and lines constantly to check if they decide to go to some suitable
place for them.
On the other hand, it seems that the program remembers some image
results and keeps adding other results on them.
I also can not find a way to properly re-optimize the image after I
change the amount of CPs and lines, results come out as if the program
went nuts.
Is it because I missed some steps, doing couple of things wrong or the
program has some bugs, I can not decide.
I am sure I follow the instructions and place the CPs to the exact
same
points as told in Hugin Tutorial - Perspective correction at
Sourceforge.net/Tutorials,
I still can not manage to control the program.
I also would like to know that, if I can control the program and
get
decent results just for correcting perspective, how can I obtain the
original aspect ratio of the original image. Does that function works
automatically or should I provide an aspect ratio figure or side
measurements?

My system is Vista, Intel Core Quad, 4GB ram.

I will be grateful if you can lead me to controllable  results.

Thank you for your time.

Kamil Bulbul

Istanbul, Turkey

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Re: [hugin-ptx] Hugin V 2011.0.0 problems

2011-08-20 Thread Terry Duell

Hullo Kamil,

On Sun, 21 Aug 2011 03:56:45 +1000, kabul2021 kabul2...@hotmail.com  
wrote:



Hello,

I am trying to correct some lens distortions for measurement
purposes.  ( such as converting an oblique image to a flat-on one ).
For training myself on Hugin, I downloaded the 311.jpeg picture
mentioned on Hugin Tutorial - Perspective correction at  
Sourceforge.net/Tutorials,

Followed the instructions down to the letter  and when I push the
stitch button, program asks are you sure you want to stitch such a  
large  (

4.3 gigapixels) panorama ?
Control points don't stay where I put them, I have to control the CPs
and lines constantly to check if they decide to go to some suitable
place for them.


Can you provide the .pto file from your perspective correction tutorial  
project?


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Re: [hugin-ptx] Problems with windows build

2011-08-20 Thread Jeff
I had the same problem trying to compile Hugin after being away from it for 
a couple months (see 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/hugin-ptx/Q-KrS38SJ_Y). I'm glad to 
see others trying to compile for Windows as well. 

The offending line is 604 in Batch.cpp. I simply commented it out and Hugin 
compiles. The Batcher seems to work still, but I haven't done extensive 
testing. I don't know how commenting this one line affects Hugin on Linux or 
Mac OS X. 

Wish I had more time to devote to this project and hunting down bugs

-Jeff

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