[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Eduardo Pérez]

Yes and yes: I am sure I am executing my freshly installed version, but
I keep two installations (the official release, and the development
release).

Most probably, I am using the development release with the official .mo
file... Is there something similar to LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but for
localization files? Thanks.

Edu.

On Fri, 2009-09-25 at 08:34 +0200, Kornel Benko wrote: 
> Am Friday 25 September 2009 schrieb Eduardo Pérez:
> > 
> > On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 22:42 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote: 
> > > Eduardo Pérez wrote:
> > > > I have just updated the Spanish translation, there are zero untranslated
> > > > messages now.
> > > 
> > > thank you!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > BTW, after updating my .po file, is there something else that I must do
> > > > in order to test my changes. Even after recompiling and reinstalling, I
> > > > still see untranslated strings.
> > > 
> > > mhhh... what platform are you on and how do you reinstall?
> > > 
> > > Yuv
> > 
> > I use Linux, Fedora 10 x86_64 to be precise. I completely delete the
> > destination directory (rm -rf), and from a clean copy (svn revert / make
> > clean) of the source tree (plus my modifications to the .po file, of
> > course), I start the cmake / make / install cycle.
> > 
> > Edu.
> 
> Are you sure, you have _installed_ this version? Or are you calling the fresh 
> compiled hugin instead?
> 
> In your system there may lay some hugin.mo around. (From previous install)
> 
> Search for e.g. /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/hugin.mo
> 
>   Kornel


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Kornel Benko]

Am Friday 25 September 2009 schrieb Eduardo Pérez:
> 
> On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 22:42 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote: 
> > Eduardo Pérez wrote:
> > > I have just updated the Spanish translation, there are zero untranslated
> > > messages now.
> > 
> > thank you!
> > 
> > 
> > > BTW, after updating my .po file, is there something else that I must do
> > > in order to test my changes. Even after recompiling and reinstalling, I
> > > still see untranslated strings.
> > 
> > mhhh... what platform are you on and how do you reinstall?
> > 
> > Yuv
> 
> I use Linux, Fedora 10 x86_64 to be precise. I completely delete the
> destination directory (rm -rf), and from a clean copy (svn revert / make
> clean) of the source tree (plus my modifications to the .po file, of
> course), I start the cmake / make / install cycle.
> 
> Edu.

Are you sure, you have _installed_ this version? Or are you calling the fresh 
compiled hugin instead?

In your system there may lay some hugin.mo around. (From previous install)

Search for e.g. /usr/local/share/locale/es/LC_MESSAGES/hugin.mo

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Eduardo Pérez]

On Thu, 2009-09-24 at 22:42 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote: 
> Eduardo Pérez wrote:
> > I have just updated the Spanish translation, there are zero untranslated
> > messages now.
> 
> thank you!
> 
> 
> > BTW, after updating my .po file, is there something else that I must do
> > in order to test my changes. Even after recompiling and reinstalling, I
> > still see untranslated strings.
> 
> mhhh... what platform are you on and how do you reinstall?
> 
> Yuv

I use Linux, Fedora 10 x86_64 to be precise. I completely delete the
destination directory (rm -rf), and from a clean copy (svn revert / make
clean) of the source tree (plus my modifications to the .po file, of
course), I start the cmake / make / install cycle.

Edu.



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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Eduardo Pérez wrote:
> I have just updated the Spanish translation, there are zero untranslated
> messages now.

thank you!


> BTW, after updating my .po file, is there something else that I must do
> in order to test my changes. Even after recompiling and reinstalling, I
> still see untranslated strings.

mhhh... what platform are you on and how do you reinstall?

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Eduardo Pérez]

I have just updated the Spanish translation, there are zero untranslated
messages now.

I corrected some fuzzy messages with _bad_ translations, too. I have
found (now and in the past) _dangerous_ translations on fuzzy messages
(where 'delete' had been translated to something other than 'borrar',
for example). I try to double-check the file each time, but I fear some
message may be still wrong.

BTW, after updating my .po file, is there something else that I must do
in order to test my changes. Even after recompiling and reinstalling, I
still see untranslated strings.

Edu.

On Tue, 2009-09-22 at 21:36 +0100, Bruno Postle wrote: 
> On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 14:08 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that
> >> 'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.
> >
> >oh... I was under the impression that we did not. well, if Rick and
> >Alexandre forgive me, unless there is a code bug in RC1, I'll release
> >their updated translations with 2009.4.0_beta1.
> 
> So long as a 'final' tarball doesn't go out without being an 'rc' 
> first.
> 
> This is the status of translations in the current 2009.2 branch:
> 
> cs_CZ.po complete.
> hu.pocomplete.
> it.pocomplete.
> nl.pocomplete.
> sv.pocomplete.
> zh_TW.po complete.
> es.po  2 untranslated messages.
> de.po  3 untranslated messages.
> ru.po  3 untranslated messages.
> zh_CN.po   4 untranslated messages.
> fr.po 25 untranslated messages.
> sk.po 26 untranslated messages.
> ja.po 51 untranslated messages.
> bg.po101 untranslated messages.
> ko.po109 untranslated messages.
> pl.po110 untranslated messages.
> sl.po147 untranslated messages.
> uk.po176 untranslated messages.
> pt_BR.po 216 untranslated messages.
> ca_ES.po 255 untranslated messages.
> 


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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Bruno Postle wrote:
>msgfmt --statistics eo_XX.po

thanks.

I updated 


> There are 1044 strings in the hugin.pot file.  The main translation 
> problem we have now is that many of these strings are in the 
> sourcecode, but not in bits that are used - i.e. there are strings 
> that are being translated unnecessarily (the panodruid for example).

and I've added this to the list of issues there.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Bruno Postle]

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 18:41 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>
>do you have a script to extract this kind of statistics? and what is the
>total number of strings?

   msgfmt --statistics eo_XX.po

There are 1044 strings in the hugin.pot file.  The main translation 
problem we have now is that many of these strings are in the 
sourcecode, but not in bits that are used - i.e. there are strings 
that are being translated unnecessarily (the panodruid for example).

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Bruno Postle wrote:
> So long as a 'final' tarball doesn't go out without being an 'rc' 
> first.

understood :)


> This is the status of translations in the current 2009.2 branch:

do you have a script to extract this kind of statistics? and what is the 
total number of strings?

I've looked at the .po files and the headers are (excuse my English) 
quite messy. It's not high priority, but they should be normalized.

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Bruno Postle]

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 14:08 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>>
>> Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that
>> 'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.
>
>oh... I was under the impression that we did not. well, if Rick and
>Alexandre forgive me, unless there is a code bug in RC1, I'll release
>their updated translations with 2009.4.0_beta1.

So long as a 'final' tarball doesn't go out without being an 'rc' 
first.

This is the status of translations in the current 2009.2 branch:

cs_CZ.po complete.
hu.pocomplete.
it.pocomplete.
nl.pocomplete.
sv.pocomplete.
zh_TW.po complete.
es.po  2 untranslated messages.
de.po  3 untranslated messages.
ru.po  3 untranslated messages.
zh_CN.po   4 untranslated messages.
fr.po 25 untranslated messages.
sk.po 26 untranslated messages.
ja.po 51 untranslated messages.
bg.po101 untranslated messages.
ko.po109 untranslated messages.
pl.po110 untranslated messages.
sl.po147 untranslated messages.
uk.po176 untranslated messages.
pt_BR.po 216 untranslated messages.
ca_ES.po 255 untranslated messages.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Bruno Postle wrote:
> On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 13:36 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>> Bruno Postle wrote:
 do updated translation require an additional RC?
>>> Yes.
>> For future release cycles I am tempted to put forward a motion to speed
>> up the RC process:
>> - if code and build maturity warrant that an RC can be declared final,
>> it is declared final without considering the late translations.
> 
> Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that 
> 'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.


oh... I was under the impression that we did not. well, if Rick and 
Alexandre forgive me, unless there is a code bug in RC1, I'll release 
their updated translations with 2009.4.0_beta1.

can do other things tonight - such as fixing my Windows box...

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Bruno Postle]

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 13:36 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>Bruno Postle wrote:
>>> do updated translation require an additional RC?
>>
>> Yes.
>
>For future release cycles I am tempted to put forward a motion to speed
>up the RC process:
>- if code and build maturity warrant that an RC can be declared final,
>it is declared final without considering the late translations.

Yes of course, we are already operating on the principle that 
'stable' releases are going to go out with partial translations.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Bruno Postle wrote:
>> do updated translation require an additional RC?
> 
> Yes.

will issue one tonight.

For future release cycles I am tempted to put forward a motion to speed 
up the RC process:
- if code and build maturity warrant that an RC can be declared final, 
it is declared final without considering the late translations.
- late translation applied after final release go into the next patch 
release (if somebody cares to release one) and of course in trunk and 
the next release.

The reason behind this motion is that I rather release 2009.4.0_beta1 
next, after declaring final what is out there now for 2009.2.0. It's one 
tarball less to produce, to get to the same place.

Yuv






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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Bruno Postle]

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 12:58 -0400, Yuval Levy wrote:
>Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
>> Just have committed ru.po update to 2009.2 branch.
>
>do updated translation require an additional RC?

Yes.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Alexandre Prokoudine wrote:
> Just have committed ru.po update to 2009.2 branch.

Thank you.

do updated translation require an additional RC? I would be inclined to 
simply add the translations to the next tarball and release it as final 
right away (assuming no code changes), but maybe I am overlooking something?

we also have an updated Chinese traditional (thank you, Rick).

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Alexandre Prokoudine]

On 21 сен, 06:10, Yuval Levy  wrote:

>      * Updated Translations:
>
>   - Swedish (Ulf Wilhelmson)
>   - Hungarian (Höss Lajos)

Just have committed ru.po update to 2009.2 branch.

Alexandre
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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

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Am Tuesday 22 September 2009 schrieb Eduardo Perez Esteban:
> Did you have to execute anything other than cmake / make? I am having
> trouble with Fedora10 x86_64: I can compile Hugin, but it crashes upon
> execution. I would like some help to clarify whether I am compiling it
> properly, before filling in a bug report...
> 
> Thanks.
> 

This is, what I have done 5 minutes ago:
cd /usr/src/hugin/hugin
svn up
cd /usr/BUILD/BuildHugin
cmake /usr/src/hugin/hugin -DENABLE_LAPACK=YES -DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=ON
make -j3 package
sudo rpm --nodeps --force -U /usr/BUILD/BuildHugin/hugin-2009.3.0-Linux.rpm

This hugin does not crash here. OpenSuSE 10.3, 64bit.

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[Bruno Postle]

On Tue 22-Sep-2009 at 09:31 +0200, Eduardo Perez Esteban wrote:

>Did you have to execute anything other than cmake / make? I am having
>trouble with Fedora10 x86_64: I can compile Hugin, but it crashes upon
>execution. I would like some help to clarify whether I am compiling it
>properly, before filling in a bug report...

What version of libpano13 do you have?  The 2.9.14 'stable' release 
is fine, but the two 2.9.15_beta releases have had problems.

If you want to use a current libpano13, at the moment you need to 
fetch the SVN trunk.

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Eduardo Perez Esteban]

Did you have to execute anything other than cmake / make? I am having
trouble with Fedora10 x86_64: I can compile Hugin, but it crashes upon
execution. I would like some help to clarify whether I am compiling it
properly, before filling in a bug report...

Thanks.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Tduell  wrote:

>
> Hullo Yuv,
>
> On Sep 21, 12:10 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> > Panorama stitching and more. A powerful software package for creation
> > and processing of panoramic images.
> >
> > hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 (release candidate 1) tarball is available here:
> >
> >  .>
> >
> > This is a release candidate and may be declared final in the coming days.
>
> I have successfully built RC1 and done some limited testing on Fedora
> 11 x86_64, and thus far all seems OK.
> Hugin 'about' reports svn 4461.
> I have also successfully built (using mock) a fedora 11 i586 version.
> I will pass these binary packages to Bruno so he can put them on his
> server for all to access. The packages are...
> hugin-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.x86_64.rpm
> hugin-base-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.x86_64.rpm
> hugin-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.i586.rpm
> hugin-base-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.i586.rpm
>
> Cheers,
> Terry
>
>
> >
>

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Yuval Levy]

Hi Terry,

Tduell wrote:
> I have successfully built RC1 and done some limited testing on Fedora
> 11 x86_64, and thus far all seems OK.

thanks for the good news!

Yuv

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[hugin-ptx] Re: Hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 source code distribution released

[Tduell]

Hullo Yuv,

On Sep 21, 12:10 pm, Yuval Levy  wrote:
> Panorama stitching and more. A powerful software package for creation
> and processing of panoramic images.
>
> hugin-2009.2.0_RC1 (release candidate 1) tarball is available here:
>
> 
>
> This is a release candidate and may be declared final in the coming days.

I have successfully built RC1 and done some limited testing on Fedora
11 x86_64, and thus far all seems OK.
Hugin 'about' reports svn 4461.
I have also successfully built (using mock) a fedora 11 i586 version.
I will pass these binary packages to Bruno so he can put them on his
server for all to access. The packages are...
hugin-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.x86_64.rpm
hugin-base-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.x86_64.rpm
hugin-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.i586.rpm
hugin-base-2009.2.0-0.1.20090921svn.fc11.i586.rpm

Cheers,
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