Re: [IAEP] gcomprise

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 20:53, David Farning  wrote:
> Some of the primary gcomprise developers were at the OLPCFrance
> meeting earilyer this month.  Has anyone gotten a chance to follow up
> with them on points of collaboration between gcomprise and Sugar?

We met with Bruno again in Paris and talked about some areas in which
we can improve the gcompris experience in Sugar:

- integration of the GCompris admin tools in Sugar,

- packaging of activities in sets or separated and distribution via
activities.sugarlabs.org,

- distribution of localized content inside bundles or as addons,

- integration of the GCompris progress tracking tools in Sugar.

Bruno, am I missing anything?

IMO, we could benefit from someone willing to give a test ride of the
last GCompris version in SoaS and report back issues, suggestions, etc

Thanks,

Tomeu

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

wow Gary you were up all night on that

Yes by all means back on list

I really like the logo cycling through our colors, it's a "golden
rule" of marketing to not change logo colors and we break it with
panache (each press release PDF has a different color theme too)

i want to mock up with kid avatars around Activity icons

I build animated GIFs the old-fashioned imagemagick way:
$ convert -delay 20 progress-*.png animation.gif

I'll upload something today thanks

Sean


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've uploaded
> one simple treatment to:
>
>
>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>
> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>
> Night,
> --Gary
>
> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some alternative
> treatments.
>
> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>
>> Christian, Eben
>>
>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>
>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>
>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>
>> Input greatly appreciated
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>
>>> here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the Sugar
>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>
>>>
>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>
>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead of
>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>
>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity icon...
>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>
>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>
>>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>>
>>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>>
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
>>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>>> backing down to the first image
>>>
>>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin 
>>> wrote:

 Hi Sean,
 FYI, this came in off list.
 Regards,
 --G

 Begin forwarded message:

 From: James Zaki 
 Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
 To: Gary C Martin 
 Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
 I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.

 I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?

 James


 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin 
>
> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>
>> Sebastian, Gary
>>
>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing for
>> awhile
>
> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>
> --G
>
>> What's the deadline please?
>>
>> thanks
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>>>
 Hi folks,

 sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
 spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS Yum
 repo
 to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.

 As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly rewritten,
 and I
 was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
 with a
 new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar logo
 again, but we might also want to have something more shiny (probably
 with a progress bar).
>>>
>>> Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.
>>>
 I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there was
 at
 first nothing more than a quick hack, so it'd would be really
 great if
 someone could have a look and work on such a boot screen.
>>>
>>> I'm happy to give it a look/shot from a graphics point of view if no
>>> one else steps forward.
>>>
>>> So. When did you need it by?
>>>
 OLPC is currently doin

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Hi all,

this is just great - thanks a lot for working on it so quickly! :)

It looks really promising! Let me know if you want me to grab the .png 
files from somewhere to build a test package...

--Sebastian

Sean DALY wrote:
> wow Gary you were up all night on that
>
> Yes by all means back on list
>
> I really like the logo cycling through our colors, it's a "golden
> rule" of marketing to not change logo colors and we break it with
> panache (each press release PDF has a different color theme too)
>
> i want to mock up with kid avatars around Activity icons
>
> I build animated GIFs the old-fashioned imagemagick way:
> $ convert -delay 20 progress-*.png animation.gif
>
> I'll upload something today thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've uploaded
>> one simple treatment to:
>>
>>
>>   
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>
>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>
>> Night,
>> --Gary
>>
>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some alternative
>> treatments.
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Christian, Eben
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>
>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>
>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>
>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
 Maybe we could work on it together?

 here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the Sugar
 HIG and iconography.


 boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
 ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")

 The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead of
 dots, I want XO avatars - kids!

 In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity icon...
 matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
 understand that Activities are for them.

 And ending with... kids around the Journal!

 Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?

 Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring

 What do you think?

 thanks

 Sean

 P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
 a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
 backing down to the first image

 I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
 inject arbitrary text into a ppm file




 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
 wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> FYI, this came in off list.
> Regards,
> --G
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: James Zaki
> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
> To: Gary C Martin
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>
> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>
> James
>
>
> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin
>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>
>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing for
>>> awhile
>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>
>> --G
>>
>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>   wrote:
 On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS Yum
> repo
> to reflect the changes for Fedora 11.
>
> As it turned out, the plymouth package has been partly rewritten,
> and I
> was wondering (also with regard to #709), how we wanted to deal
> with a
> new boot screen. For now, I've just implemented the old Sugar logo
> again, but we might also want to have something more shiny (probably
> with a progress bar).
 Some form of progress indicator would be a useful addition.

> I'm not really that good at art and the Sugar logo thing there was
>>>

Re: [IAEP] gcomprise

[Walter Bender]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Tomeu Vizoso  wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 20:53, David Farning  wrote:
>> Some of the primary gcomprise developers were at the OLPCFrance
>> meeting earilyer this month.  Has anyone gotten a chance to follow up
>> with them on points of collaboration between gcomprise and Sugar?
>
> We met with Bruno again in Paris and talked about some areas in which
> we can improve the gcompris experience in Sugar:
>
> - integration of the GCompris admin tools in Sugar,
>
> - packaging of activities in sets or separated and distribution via
> activities.sugarlabs.org,
>
> - distribution of localized content inside bundles or as addons,
>
> - integration of the GCompris progress tracking tools in Sugar.
>
> Bruno, am I missing anything?
>
> IMO, we could benefit from someone willing to give a test ride of the
> last GCompris version in SoaS and report back issues, suggestions, etc

Sounds like a job for the Wellington Test Team!! Tabitha?

-walter


-- 
Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
http://www.sugarlabs.org
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

Well, I'd like to do a mockup of my idea (tonight), post it to the
wiki under Gary's, and have feedback from the Design Team about both

The splash/progress page is a key moment of a Learner's interaction
with Sugar, let's explore its possibilities before finalizing it

thanks

Sean



On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Dziallas  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> this is just great - thanks a lot for working on it so quickly! :)
>
> It looks really promising! Let me know if you want me to grab the .png files
> from somewhere to build a test package...
>
> --Sebastian
>
> Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>> wow Gary you were up all night on that
>>
>> Yes by all means back on list
>>
>> I really like the logo cycling through our colors, it's a "golden
>> rule" of marketing to not change logo colors and we break it with
>> panache (each press release PDF has a different color theme too)
>>
>> i want to mock up with kid avatars around Activity icons
>>
>> I build animated GIFs the old-fashioned imagemagick way:
>> $ convert -delay 20 progress-*.png animation.gif
>>
>> I'll upload something today thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Gary C Martin
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've uploaded
>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>
>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Night,
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>> alternative
>>> treatments.
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>
 Christian, Eben

 I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
 outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
 interface.iconography and greeting children.

 I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
 consecutively named files will do the trick

 I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
 you guys have any interface assets i could grab?

 Input greatly appreciated

 thanks

 Sean



 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>
> Maybe we could work on it together?
>
> here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the Sugar
> HIG and iconography.
>
>
> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>
> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead of
> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>
> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity icon...
> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
> understand that Activities are for them.
>
> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>
> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>
> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>
> What do you think?
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
> backing down to the first image
>
> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sean,
>> FYI, this came in off list.
>> Regards,
>> --G
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: James Zaki
>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>> To: Gary C Martin
>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>
>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin
>>>
>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>
 Sebastian, Gary

 I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing for
 awhile
>>>
>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>
>>> --G
>>>
 What's the deadline please?

 thanks
 Sean




 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
   wrote:
>
> On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've been
>> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our SoaS
>> Yum
>> repo
>> to reflec

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[David Van Assche]

Yeah, this is also something that is relevant and usable across distros, so
lets try and make it distro agnostic

David

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Sean DALY  wrote:

> Well, I'd like to do a mockup of my idea (tonight), post it to the
> wiki under Gary's, and have feedback from the Design Team about both
>
> The splash/progress page is a key moment of a Learner's interaction
> with Sugar, let's explore its possibilities before finalizing it
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:39 PM, Sebastian Dziallas 
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > this is just great - thanks a lot for working on it so quickly! :)
> >
> > It looks really promising! Let me know if you want me to grab the .png
> files
> > from somewhere to build a test package...
> >
> > --Sebastian
> >
> > Sean DALY wrote:
> >>
> >> wow Gary you were up all night on that
> >>
> >> Yes by all means back on list
> >>
> >> I really like the logo cycling through our colors, it's a "golden
> >> rule" of marketing to not change logo colors and we break it with
> >> panache (each press release PDF has a different color theme too)
> >>
> >> i want to mock up with kid avatars around Activity icons
> >>
> >> I build animated GIFs the old-fashioned imagemagick way:
> >> $ convert -delay 20 progress-*.png animation.gif
> >>
> >> I'll upload something today thanks
> >>
> >> Sean
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:59 AM, Gary C Martin
> >>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Folks,
> >>>
> >>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
> uploaded
> >>> one simple treatment to:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
> >>>
> >>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
> >>>
> >>> Night,
> >>> --Gary
> >>>
> >>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
> >>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
> >>> alternative
> >>> treatments.
> >>>
> >>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
> >>>
>  Christian, Eben
> 
>  I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>  outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>  interface.iconography and greeting children.
> 
>  I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>  consecutively named files will do the trick
> 
>  I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>  you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
> 
>  Input greatly appreciated
> 
>  thanks
> 
>  Sean
> 
> 
> 
>  On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY
>  wrote:
> >
> > Maybe we could work on it together?
> >
> > here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
> > 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
> Sugar
> > HIG and iconography.
> >
> >
> > boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
> > ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
> >
> > The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
> of
> > dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
> >
> > In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
> icon...
> > matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
> > understand that Activities are for them.
> >
> > And ending with... kids around the Journal!
> >
> > Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
> >
> > Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Sean
> >
> > P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
> > a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
> > backing down to the first image
> >
> > I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
> > inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sean,
> >> FYI, this came in off list.
> >> Regards,
> >> --G
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >> From: James Zaki
> >> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
> >> To: Gary C Martin
> >> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
> >> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
> >>
> >> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
> >>
> >> James
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin
> >>>
> >>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
> >>>
>  Sebastian, Gary
> 
>  I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing
> for
>  awhile
> >>>
> >>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
> >>>
> >>> --G

Re: [IAEP] NECC Unplugged...Sign Up Now!

[Caroline Meeks]

Ok I grabbed 11-11:30 for Walter and 1:30 to 2pm for me.

Walter, can you add a bit to yours or let me know if you can't make that
day.

Thanks!
Caroline

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:

>  Hi Caroline (also Walter, Mike, Luke, Kevin, and all other interested
> folks),
>
> Yes, there are lots of nice slots for NECC "Unplugged" that are still
> open.  Go to :
>
> http://www.neccunplugged.com/
>
> When there, register so you can edit and put your presentations on the
> schedule (you'll love the editor...very easy to use).
>
> On day one, Monday June 29, there are time slots all over the place.  I
> went for one in the middle of the day (on day 2) so it would be convenient
> no matter which time zone people were in.
>
> You and Walter could put yours consecutively.  Perhaps in Virtual Room A
> at a good time such as 11-11:30 and 11:30-12.  No one has signed up in any
> of the rooms at that time slot yet. Actually, the Main onsite room is open
> then, maybe the DC folks would like to take that one and you and Walter
> could do one in the afternoon.  There are lots of slots available (e.g.
> 1:30-2 and 2-2:30 ... right after Chris does his Alternate Reality Game
> sessions in the Onsite main room (BTW, he plans to eventually make versions
> of his game for the XO)
>
> The DC folks should sign up for the Onsite Main Room.  There are lots of
> time slots there too.  It would be good for them to do theirs on day one so
> they can let attendees know about any "sandbox" activities and SoaS download
> sessions they might be running in the Open Source area.
>
> There will be training sessions for learning to use Eluminate before the
> Conference and everyone can sign up for a 3-seat virtual room to try things
> out.  There are other live training sessions and a lot of resources on the
> Eluminate site.
>
> http://www.elluminate.com/support/docs/9.0/participant.jsp
>
> I had another idea.  Maybe the DC folks could have colorful t-shirts that
> said "Ask me about Sugar" or something like that.  I'm sure someone can come
> up with a really clever saying for it. Is there any money to do something
> like that?
>
> I think you all may get 2 or more copies...sorry!  Better multiples than
> none.
>
> Caryl
> (Unofficial "official")
>
> P.S. Below is the exchange Caroline and I had about the conference.  It
> also has some information you might need.
>
>
>
> --
> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:52:07 -0400
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] NECC Unplugged...Sign Up Now!
> From: carol...@solutiongrove.com
>
> To: cbige...@hotmail.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>  Hi Caroline,
>
> My thinking is that it would be great to have an intro early-on in the
> first day about OLPC and Sugar in general (someone is welcome to "borrow" a
> few of my CUE slides for that). Then soon after (also on the first day of
> the conference) something about the XOs, SoaS, and Sugar that will send
> folks to the "sandbox" in the open source area where they can play with XOs
> and maybe even download their own copies of SoaS. That presentation could be
> in the main "room" where "live" people could also attend.  If this happens
> on the first day, folks could have the whole conference to play.
>
>
> Are there any slots open?
>
>
>
> I purposely put the the talk about the Contributors program later so folks
> who have seen the machines and software and want to get involved can find
> out how.
>
> The presentations are limited to 30 minutes. Chris got around that by doing
> a part 1 and part 2 for his.  But short, narrow topics are probably best.
>
>
> Ok so maybe Walter can do the first one and I can do the second one. I
> didn't see any good open time slots though :(
>
>
>
> Another thought...maybe the DC club and some of the others who will be
> there physically could have some sort of t-shirt that says "Ask me about
> Sugar" among other things.
>
>
> Yes, there will be an onsite contingent. Walter and I will not be there but
> Mike Lee and others will be.
>
>
>
> Will you and Walter physically be at the conference?
>
> My houseguests just left so I need to go out and tear out my cool season
> annuals and get the garden ready to leave it for 4 months since we will
> leave for MT in a few days.  I'm going to be swamped with packing and stuff
> but will check my email from time to time to see what is happening.
>
> Some others who have expressed interest in participating include:
>  *Kevin Cole* (dc.l...@gmail.com), *Mike Lee* (curious...@gmail.com), Luke
> Faraone (l...@faraone.cc). I'll forward their emails.  Someone "official"
> could coordinate this to make the OLPC/Sugar presence really great.
>
>
> You are official! :)
>
>
>
> Later,
> Caryl
>
>
>
> --
> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 11:41:21 -0400
> Subject: Re: [IAEP] NECC Unplugged...Sign Up Now!
> From: solutiongr...@gmail.com
> To: cbige...@hotmail.com
>
>
> Hi Caryl,
>
> I see you signed up to do one. W

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Walter Bender]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, David Van Assche  wrote:
> Yeah, this is also something that is relevant and usable across distros, so
> lets try and make it distro agnostic
>
> David

Agreed, but we may want to provide some way for the distros to get
some acknowledgement. Perhaps some distro-specific patch that can be
applied to indicate their contribution, similar to the "Fedora Remix"
embossment on the OLPC splash screen?

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Caroline Meeks]

Also we want major deployment to customize it, put their school name in.
Once we get inside a school we want it to be "their Sugar" or just "Their
Computer System" but its very important that they feel ownership, its not
just some program that they bought.  Things like a splash screen with the
school name can be a big help with that.

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Walter Bender wrote:

> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, David Van Assche 
> wrote:
> > Yeah, this is also something that is relevant and usable across distros,
> so
> > lets try and make it distro agnostic
> >
> > David
>
> Agreed, but we may want to provide some way for the distros to get
> some acknowledgement. Perhaps some distro-specific patch that can be
> applied to indicate their contribution, similar to the "Fedora Remix"
> embossment on the OLPC splash screen?
>
> -walter
>
> --
> Walter Bender
> Sugar Labs
> http://www.sugarlabs.org
> ___
> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>



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Solution Grove
carol...@solutiongrove.com

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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Gary C Martin]

Hi Christian,

On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:

> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...

Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a  
child as central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms  
of the original would be:

1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment  
(seems too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity,  
appearing dots show progress just fine)

2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12  
to 12 feels more natural to me)

3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG  
iconography on colour use)

Regards,
--Gary

> Christian
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin  
>  wrote:
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've  
>> uploaded
>> one simple treatment to:
>>
>>
>>  
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>
>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>
>> Night,
>> --Gary
>>
>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably  
>> worth
>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some  
>> alternative
>> treatments.
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Christian, Eben
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>
>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>
>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>
>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY   
>>> wrote:

 Maybe we could work on it together?

 here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which  
 Christian
 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the  
 Sugar
 HIG and iconography.


 boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous  
 SoaS
 ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")

 The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but  
 instead of
 dots, I want XO avatars - kids!

 In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity  
 icon...
 matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So  
 kids
 understand that Activities are for them.

 And ending with... kids around the Journal!

 Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?

 Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring

 What do you think?

 thanks

 Sean

 P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence  
 for
 a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
 backing down to the first image

 I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
 inject arbitrary text into a ppm file




 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin >>> >
 wrote:
>
> Hi Sean,
> FYI, this came in off list.
> Regards,
> --G
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: James Zaki 
> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
> To: Gary C Martin 
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>
> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>
> James
>
>
> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin 
>>
>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Sebastian, Gary
>>>
>>> I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea  
>>> brewing for
>>> awhile
>>
>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>
>> --G
>>
>>> What's the deadline please?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM, Gary C Martin
>>>  wrote:

 On 29 May 2009, at 18:41, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> sorry for the short notice, but this is rather urgent. I've  
> been
> spending yesterday afternoon to update the packages in our  
> SoaS Yum
> repo
> to reflect the c

Re: [IAEP] NECC Unplugged...Sign Up Now!

[Mike Lee]

I just added my talk right after Walter's.

Mike


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Caroline Meeks  wrote:

> Ok I grabbed 11-11:30 for Walter and 1:30 to 2pm for me.
>
> Walter, can you add a bit to yours or let me know if you can't make that
> day.
>
> Thanks!
> Caroline
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:02 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>
>>  Hi Caroline (also Walter, Mike, Luke, Kevin, and all other interested
>> folks),
>>
>> Yes, there are lots of nice slots for NECC "Unplugged" that are still
>> open.  Go to :
>>
>> http://www.neccunplugged.com/
>>
>> When there, register so you can edit and put your presentations on the
>> schedule (you'll love the editor...very easy to use).
>>
>> On day one, Monday June 29, there are time slots all over the place.  I
>> went for one in the middle of the day (on day 2) so it would be convenient
>> no matter which time zone people were in.
>>
>> You and Walter could put yours consecutively.  Perhaps in Virtual Room A
>> at a good time such as 11-11:30 and 11:30-12.  No one has signed up in any
>> of the rooms at that time slot yet. Actually, the Main onsite room is open
>> then, maybe the DC folks would like to take that one and you and Walter
>> could do one in the afternoon.  There are lots of slots available (e.g.
>> 1:30-2 and 2-2:30 ... right after Chris does his Alternate Reality Game
>> sessions in the Onsite main room (BTW, he plans to eventually make versions
>> of his game for the XO)
>>
>> The DC folks should sign up for the Onsite Main Room.  There are lots of
>> time slots there too.  It would be good for them to do theirs on day one so
>> they can let attendees know about any "sandbox" activities and SoaS download
>> sessions they might be running in the Open Source area.
>>
>> There will be training sessions for learning to use Eluminate before the
>> Conference and everyone can sign up for a 3-seat virtual room to try things
>> out.  There are other live training sessions and a lot of resources on the
>> Eluminate site.
>>
>> http://www.elluminate.com/support/docs/9.0/participant.jsp
>>
>> I had another idea.  Maybe the DC folks could have colorful t-shirts that
>> said "Ask me about Sugar" or something like that.  I'm sure someone can come
>> up with a really clever saying for it. Is there any money to do something
>> like that?
>>
>> I think you all may get 2 or more copies...sorry!  Better multiples than
>> none.
>>
>> Caryl
>> (Unofficial "official")
>>
>> P.S. Below is the exchange Caroline and I had about the conference.  It
>> also has some information you might need.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:52:07 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [IAEP] NECC Unplugged...Sign Up Now!
>> From: carol...@solutiongrove.com
>>
>> To: cbige...@hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Caroline,
>>
>> My thinking is that it would be great to have an intro early-on in the
>> first day about OLPC and Sugar in general (someone is welcome to "borrow" a
>> few of my CUE slides for that). Then soon after (also on the first day of
>> the conference) something about the XOs, SoaS, and Sugar that will send
>> folks to the "sandbox" in the open source area where they can play with XOs
>> and maybe even download their own copies of SoaS. That presentation could be
>> in the main "room" where "live" people could also attend.  If this happens
>> on the first day, folks could have the whole conference to play.
>>
>>
>> Are there any slots open?
>>
>>
>>
>> I purposely put the the talk about the Contributors program later so folks
>> who have seen the machines and software and want to get involved can find
>> out how.
>>
>> The presentations are limited to 30 minutes. Chris got around that by
>> doing a part 1 and part 2 for his.  But short, narrow topics are probably
>> best.
>>
>>
>> Ok so maybe Walter can do the first one and I can do the second one. I
>> didn't see any good open time slots though :(
>>
>>
>>
>> Another thought...maybe the DC club and some of the others who will be
>> there physically could have some sort of t-shirt that says "Ask me about
>> Sugar" among other things.
>>
>>
>> Yes, there will be an onsite contingent. Walter and I will not be there
>> but Mike Lee and others will be.
>>
>>
>>
>> Will you and Walter physically be at the conference?
>>
>> My houseguests just left so I need to go out and tear out my cool season
>> annuals and get the garden ready to leave it for 4 months since we will
>> leave for MT in a few days.  I'm going to be swamped with packing and stuff
>> but will check my email from time to time to see what is happening.
>>
>> Some others who have expressed interest in participating include:
>>  *Kevin Cole* (dc.l...@gmail.com), *Mike Lee* (curious...@gmail.com), Luke
>> Faraone (l...@faraone.cc). I'll forward their emails.  Someone "official"
>> could coordinate this to make the OLPC/Sugar presence really great.
>>
>>
>> You are official! :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Later,

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

As a possibility, maybe we could reserve progress-00.png at the
beginning of the sequence for a distro / locally-customized splash
screen? Blank by default

And progress-01.png for Sugar logo, version number, copyright notice
and distro logo. I could supply a bash imagemagick script which could
build the PNG file on the fly from text switches e.g.
--version "Soas2-200905281544"

Then start "standard" progress bar sequence at progress-01.png

by the way I've been trying to find the documentation for plymouth
syntax if anyone has a link i'd appreciate it, curious to know if
progree bar is hardcoded to 25 images or whatever

thanks

Sean


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Caroline Meeks  wrote:
> Also we want major deployment to customize it, put their school name in.
> Once we get inside a school we want it to be "their Sugar" or just "Their
> Computer System" but its very important that they feel ownership, its not
> just some program that they bought.  Things like a splash screen with the
> school name can be a big help with that.
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Walter Bender 
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, David Van Assche 
>> wrote:
>> > Yeah, this is also something that is relevant and usable across distros,
>> > so
>> > lets try and make it distro agnostic
>> >
>> > David
>>
>> Agreed, but we may want to provide some way for the distros to get
>> some acknowledgement. Perhaps some distro-specific patch that can be
>> applied to indicate their contribution, similar to the "Fedora Remix"
>> embossment on the OLPC splash screen?
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>> ___
>> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)
>> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
>
>
> --
> Caroline Meeks
> Solution Grove
> carol...@solutiongrove.com
>
> 617-500-3488 - Office
> 505-213-3268 - Fax
>
> ___
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> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep
>
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Christian Marc Schmidt]

I agree with your points--comments below:

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>
> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child as
> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the original
> would be:
>
> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment (seems
> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing dots
> show progress just fine)

Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.

>
> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to 12
> feels more natural to me)

Agree with that, too.

>
> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
> iconography on colour use)

Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the UI...

>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've uploaded
>>> one simple treatment to:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>>
>>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Night,
>>> --Gary
>>>
>>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>>> alternative
>>> treatments.
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>
 Christian, Eben

 I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
 outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
 interface.iconography and greeting children.

 I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
 consecutively named files will do the trick

 I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
 you guys have any interface assets i could grab?

 Input greatly appreciated

 thanks

 Sean



 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
>
> Maybe we could work on it together?
>
> here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the Sugar
> HIG and iconography.
>
>
> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>
> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead of
> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>
> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity icon...
> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
> understand that Activities are for them.
>
> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>
> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>
> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>
> What do you think?
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling sequence for
> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
> backing down to the first image
>
> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sean,
>> FYI, this came in off list.
>> Regards,
>> --G
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: James Zaki 
>> Date: 29 May 2009 22:24:06 BST
>> To: Gary C Martin 
>> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen
>> I'm in touch with a design company who owes me a favour or two.
>>
>> I could get them to whip up some concept designs for inspiration?
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>> 2009/5/29 Gary C Martin 
>>>
>>> On 29 May 2009, at 21:37, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>
 Sebastian, Gary

 I'd like to take a stab at it, I've actually had an idea brewing for
 awhile
>>>
>>> Cool, shout if you need extra hands/review.
>>>
>>> --G
>>>
 What's the deadline please?

 thanks
 Sean




 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 8:54 PM

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Gary C Martin]

On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:

> I agree with your points--comments below:
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin  
>  wrote:
>> Hi Christian,
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO  
>>> in
>>> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI,  
>>> and in
>>> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
>>> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few  
>>> seconds,
>>> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to  
>>> lose
>>> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will  
>>> attest
>>> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>
>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a  
>> child as
>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the  
>> original
>> would be:
>>
>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment  
>> (seems
>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity,  
>> appearing dots
>> show progress just fine)
>
> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less  
> forced.
>
>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock  
>> (12 to 12
>> feels more natural to me)
>
> Agree with that, too.

Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.

>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>> iconography on colour use)
>
> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set  
> in the UI...

Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this  
suggestion ;-)

I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet'  
so I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots  
appearing in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about  
showing them all as grey from the start, and then lighting up with  
colour.

Regards,
--Gary

>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin >> >
>>> wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've  
 uploaded
 one simple treatment to:



  
 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations

 Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.

 Night,
 --Gary

 P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably  
 worth
 getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
 alternative
 treatments.

 On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:

> Christian, Eben
>
> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>
> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
> consecutively named files will do the trick
>
> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping  
> screenshots, do
> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>
> Input greatly appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY   
> wrote:
>>
>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>
>> here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which  
>> Christian
>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within  
>> the Sugar
>> HIG and iconography.
>>
>>
>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the  
>> previous SoaS
>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>
>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but  
>> instead of
>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>
>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity  
>> icon...
>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring.  
>> So kids
>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>
>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>
>> Alternate idea: cycling through the 12 logo color combos?
>>
>> Not mutually exclusive... logo could be on the bottom of ring
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> P.S. I've actually done something similar with a titling  
>> sequence for
>> a short film. I started with the final image and wiped elements,
>> backing down to the first image
>>
>> I use imagemagick a lot no problem to create a script which could
>> inject arbitrary text into a ppm file
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Gary C Martin > >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Sean,
>>> FYI, this came in off list.
>>> Regards,
>>> --G
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
UI.

I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
loading" context communicated by grey.

I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey

I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
(especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
"usually" loads is I think desirable

thanks

Sean


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>
>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>>
 Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
 the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
 many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
 logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
 before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
 the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
 that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...
>>>
>>> Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
>>> as
>>> central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
>>> original
>>> would be:
>>>
>>> 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
>>> (seems
>>> too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
>>> dots
>>> show progress just fine)
>>
>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>
>>> 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
>>> 12
>>> feels more natural to me)
>>
>> Agree with that, too.
>
> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>
>>> 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
>>> iconography on colour use)
>>
>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>> UI...
>
> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>
> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>>> Regards,
>>> --Gary
>>>
 Christian


 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin 
 wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
> uploaded
> one simple treatment to:
>
>
>
>
>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>
> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>
> Night,
> --Gary
>
> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
> alternative
> treatments.
>
> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>
>> Christian, Eben
>>
>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>
>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>
>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>
>> Input greatly appreciated
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe we could work on it together?
>>>
>>> here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which Christian
>>> 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within the
>>> Sugar
>>> HIG and iconography.
>>>
>>>
>>> boot should start with our logo ... smaller than in the previous SoaS
>>> ... (not sure yet if should be with or without "labs")
>>>
>>> The ring is iconic ... I want to keep a ring at boot... but instead
>>> of
>>> dots, I want XO avatars - kids!
>>>
>>> In the middle... each succeeding image with a colored Activity
>>> icon...
>>> matched to the corresponding XO avatar appearing in the ring. So kids
>>> understand that Activities are for them.
>>>
>>> And ending with... kids around the Journal!
>>>
>>> Altern

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Frederick Grose]

 >2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to 12
 > feels more natural to me)

I like the clock metaphor, with the boot up process rising like the sun,
building upon itself, and then closing the ring to present a complete
system.

(I guess some of us start our day at noon, or only get started at midnight.
And my analog stopwatch starts at the top.)

In any case,

Sugar, being an open system, can and will distinguish itself by its ability
to support unlimited adaptation, of itself and by extension, its Learners.

Every element of the system is a learning opportunity.  Especially one that
can't be avoided.  The start-up sequence in Sugar will become a unique,
community and personal introduction spot (like home pages and desktops).

For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot Activities for
Learners:  Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys, others, even
Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.  Learners
could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up spots,
modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all sorts of
things about the system, the different tools, and of course, designate one
sequence to display on the next boot.

The work space is both sufficiently small and necessarily limited, so that
robustness could be provided, while at the same time, the content of the
sequences is limited only by the imagination.  Learners will be able to take
pride in a working sequence based on their modifications!

Schools and classes of Learners could use prepared sequences to provide
short reminders of lessons or announcements (perhaps loaded before shutdown
at the end of the day or class).

I imagine that simple cartoons with embedded, single point or short point
lessons, messages, and humor would become popular.  Brief jingles would
develop a currency like ring tones.  And so on, *ad infinitum*!

 --Fred
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Eben Eliason]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
> UI.

Again, the goal here would be to switch to a colored XO as soon as
possible. If we can do this earlier in the boot process, we should.

> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
> loading" context communicated by grey.

Also, my mockup which first shows the Sugar logo, as Christian
suggested, would make it clear that the screen is functioning
correctly before the gray XO appears.

> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey

I don't feel that the technicolor approach with the dots is actually
conveying the right message. The boot sequence is really supposed to
be about the XO, and the child's one chosen set of colors. Introducing
lots of colors reduces the personalization, I feel. I'd stick to at
most one "other" set of colors, for the logo.

> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
> "usually" loads is I think desirable

This wouldn't change the sequence; it would only change the color of
the logo, which I don't think would cause confusion. Instead, this
would be in keeping with Sugar's identity: just as the logo changes on
each page of the website, so too the logo would change for each boot.

If we can randomize the logo color, presumably we could also render
the XO in proper colors and show that much earlier in the boot
sequence. We could also blink from gray to colored (in leu of smooth
pulsing), perhaps, though I'd have to see it. It might look awful,
especially since the frames aren't all shown for the same duration.

Eben


> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin 
>>> wrote:

 Hi Christian,

 On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:

> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...

 Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
 as
 central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
 original
 would be:

 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
 (seems
 too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
 dots
 show progress just fine)
>>>
>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>>
 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
 12
 feels more natural to me)
>>>
>>> Agree with that, too.
>>
>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>
 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
 iconography on colour use)
>>>
>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>>> UI...
>>
>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>>
>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
 Regards,
 --Gary

> Christian
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>> uploaded
>> one simple treatment to:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>
>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>
>> Night,
>> --Gary
>>
>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>> alternative
>> treatments.
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Christian, Eben
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is 

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Luke Faraone]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58, Sean DALY  wrote:

> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
> "usually" loads is I think desirable


I don't think it would be a problem, as long as the customization calls on a
regeneration of *static* images to display, rather than creating the images
at boot time based on configuration files. This way, there would be no
performance penalty. (wrt customization, we should limit it to things like
distro logos and the name of the school/lab)

Not to clutter it up, but it also might be useful to as well as a visual
indicator of the boot mechanism (SoaS vs. local booting vs. helper CD) so as
to assist in debugging etc.


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 13:07, Frederick Grose  wrote:

> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot Activities for
> Learners:  Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys, others, even
> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.  Learners
> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up spots,
> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all sorts of
> things about the system, the different tools, and of course, designate one
> sequence to display on the next boot.
>
> The work space is both sufficiently small and necessarily limited, so that
> robustness could be provided, while at the same time, the content of the
> sequences is limited only by the imagination.  Learners will be able to take
> pride in a working sequence based on their modifications!
>
> I imagine that simple cartoons with embedded, single point or short point
> lessons, messages, and humor would become popular.  Brief jingles would
> develop a currency like ring tones.  And so on, *ad infinitum*!
>

This would be difficult to do in a multi-user system, and even more so to
coordinate with implementing a bitfrost security model. Rebooting shouldn't
happen that often that the user has to care about customizing it.

Ideally, we should get the boot-time down to be short enough that you won't
even notice such things, let alone using the time for notifications or board
messages!


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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Walter Bender]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose  wrote:
[snip]
> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot Activities for
> Learners:  Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys, others, even
> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.  Learners
> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up spots,
> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all sorts of
> things about the system, the different tools, and of course, designate one
> sequence to display on the next boot.

Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity icons?

-walter

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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Luke Faraone]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 13:50, Walter Bender wrote:

> Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity icons?
>  
>

As long as they don't get confused with actual, clickable icons.

And this would of course be meaningless on multi-user systems, and would
cause a constant-regeneration of bootup images which is more likely to
break.

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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Gary C Martin]

On 30 May 2009, at 18:50, Walter Bender wrote:

> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose   
> wrote:
> [snip]
>> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot  
>> Activities for
>> Learners:  Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys, others,  
>> even
>> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.   
>> Learners
>> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up  
>> spots,
>> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all  
>> sorts of
>> things about the system, the different tools, and of course,  
>> designate one
>> sequence to display on the next boot.
>
> Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity  
> icons?

Hmmm, activities shown might not be installed and then lead to  
confusion (unless you are considering the difficult step of pre- 
generating boot graphics at shutdown).

There's a fine line between cool eye-candy – and there are plenty of  
cool Sugary lickable animations we could try, activity icons being  
one  – and boot UI feedback utility :-)

Now... If the technical boot stages could be made clear (device/ 
keyboard checks, network detection, certain key services, etc) it  
could be of real use to have some simplified abstract icon for each  
stage so you'd have an idea for what really might be going on (or  
where a boot/hardware problem was) – but realistically that's more of  
a long term UI opportunity**.

** Sebastian: Do you know just where/when each progress update is  
triggered, and what major boot landmark could be sensible to visually  
indicate success of?

Regards
--Gary

> -walter
>
> -- 
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Gary C Martin]

On 30 May 2009, at 17:58, Sean DALY wrote:

> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
> UI.
>
> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
> loading" context communicated by grey.
>
> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey

There's a couple of grey dots to colour transition variants up on the  
wiki (I did a version each for 12 large dots, and 24 regular dot).

Regards,
--Gary

> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
> "usually" loads is I think desirable
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin  
>  wrote:
>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin >> >
>>> wrote:

 Hi Christian,

 On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:

> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the  
> XO in
> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI,  
> and in
> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as  
> the
> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few  
> seconds,
> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to  
> lose
> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will  
> attest
> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...

 Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a  
 child
 as
 central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
 original
 would be:

 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
 (seems
 too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity,  
 appearing
 dots
 show progress just fine)
>>>
>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less  
>>> forced.
>>>
 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock  
 (12 to
 12
 feels more natural to me)
>>>
>>> Agree with that, too.
>>
>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>
 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
 iconography on colour use)
>>>
>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set  
>>> in the
>>> UI...
>>
>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this  
>> suggestion ;-)
>>
>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready  
>> yet' so
>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots  
>> appearing
>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing  
>> them all as
>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
 Regards,
 --Gary

> Christian
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin  >
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>> uploaded
>> one simple treatment to:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>
>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>
>> Night,
>> --Gary
>>
>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but  
>> probably worth
>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>> alternative
>> treatments.
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Christian, Eben
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>
>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce  
>>> that
>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>
>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping  
>>> screenshots, do
>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>
>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY 
>>> wrote:

 Maybe we could work on it together?

 here's my idea like my booth rollup banner mockup which  
 Christian
 7 Eben both liked, I want to stay as much as possible within  
 the
 Sugar
 HIG and iconography.


 boot should start with our logo ... smal

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

Actually my first idea communicated to Gary was for the dots to be
kids avatars and the center to be different Activity icons ending with
the Journal.

Upon reflection I do fear however that it will lead to confusion,
Learners will believe each icon represents its Activity "loading",
present on the machine. And, even the avatars might generate confusion
since they won't represent other Learners like in the Neighborhood
View.

That said I feel there is a real opportunity to call upon Sugar
graphic elements to communicate core Sugar brand values at boot time:
fun, friendly, colorful, collaborative, etc.

I encourage anyone with an idea to post a GIF mockup or even a
screenshot mockup on the wiki - rapidly if possible.

thanks

Sean


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
> On 30 May 2009, at 18:50, Walter Bender wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose 
>> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot
>>> Activities for
>>> Learners:  Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys, others,
>>> even
>>> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.
>>> Learners
>>> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up
>>> spots,
>>> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all
>>> sorts of
>>> things about the system, the different tools, and of course,
>>> designate one
>>> sequence to display on the next boot.
>>
>> Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity
>> icons?
>
> Hmmm, activities shown might not be installed and then lead to
> confusion (unless you are considering the difficult step of pre-
> generating boot graphics at shutdown).
>
> There's a fine line between cool eye-candy – and there are plenty of
> cool Sugary lickable animations we could try, activity icons being
> one  – and boot UI feedback utility :-)
>
> Now... If the technical boot stages could be made clear (device/
> keyboard checks, network detection, certain key services, etc) it
> could be of real use to have some simplified abstract icon for each
> stage so you'd have an idea for what really might be going on (or
> where a boot/hardware problem was) – but realistically that's more of
> a long term UI opportunity**.
>
> ** Sebastian: Do you know just where/when each progress update is
> triggered, and what major boot landmark could be sensible to visually
> indicate success of?
>
> Regards
> --Gary
>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
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>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Gary C Martin wrote:
> On 30 May 2009, at 18:50, Walter Bender wrote:
>
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose 
>> wrote:
>> [snip]
>>> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot
>>> Activities for
>>> Learners: Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys, others, even
>>> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.
>>> Learners
>>> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up spots,
>>> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all sorts of
>>> things about the system, the different tools, and of course,
>>> designate one
>>> sequence to display on the next boot.
>>
>> Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity
>> icons?
>
> Hmmm, activities shown might not be installed and then lead to confusion
> (unless you are considering the difficult step of pre-generating boot
> graphics at shutdown).
>
> There's a fine line between cool eye-candy – and there are plenty of
> cool Sugary lickable animations we could try, activity icons being one –
> and boot UI feedback utility :-)
>
> Now... If the technical boot stages could be made clear (device/keyboard
> checks, network detection, certain key services, etc) it could be of
> real use to have some simplified abstract icon for each stage so you'd
> have an idea for what really might be going on (or where a boot/hardware
> problem was) – but realistically that's more of a long term UI
> opportunity**.
>
> ** Sebastian: Do you know just where/when each progress update is
> triggered, and what major boot landmark could be sensible to visually
> indicate success of?

Sorry, I'm not exactly sure *when* it gets triggered. What I can tell 
you from looking at the tarball is that there are also other themes, 
which contain a different number of .png files. For example, there's 
one, that contains 32 progress and 19 throbber .png files. So I guess 
plymouth adjusts what gets displayed to the number of images. I suppose 
there's one event which triggers the change from showing the progress to 
the throbber files, but I'm not sure, what it is. From my experience, 
the throbber files are shown rather late in the boot process, shortly 
before logging in.

Ray Strode (halfline in #fedora-devel) is one of the developers and has 
been really helpful with regard to my questions when hacking the logo 
into plymouth. He might know.

--Sebastian

> Regards
> --Gary
>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
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[IAEP] GHOP for Sugar Labs

[Luke Faraone]

In the past, Google has held a program similar to GSoC known as
GHOP,
or the Google Highly Open Participation contest.

Unlike GSoC, it is more limited in the projects that can enter, but projects
are not limited in number of slots, as things are broken down into "tasks",
which can usually be completed quickly. It is also open to high school
students.

Can we ask our GSoC contacts if we would be able to enter the 2009-10
program
?

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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Gary C Martin]

On 30 May 2009, at 19:40, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:

> Gary C Martin wrote:
>> On 30 May 2009, at 18:50, Walter Bender wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose 
>>> wrote:
>>> [snip]
 For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot
 Activities for
 Learners: Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys,  
 others, even
 Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.
 Learners
 could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up  
 spots,
 modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all  
 sorts of
 things about the system, the different tools, and of course,
 designate one
 sequence to display on the next boot.
>>>
>>> Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity
>>> icons?
>>
>> Hmmm, activities shown might not be installed and then lead to  
>> confusion
>> (unless you are considering the difficult step of pre-generating boot
>> graphics at shutdown).
>>
>> There's a fine line between cool eye-candy – and there are plenty of
>> cool Sugary lickable animations we could try, activity icons being  
>> one –
>> and boot UI feedback utility :-)
>>
>> Now... If the technical boot stages could be made clear (device/ 
>> keyboard
>> checks, network detection, certain key services, etc) it could be of
>> real use to have some simplified abstract icon for each stage so  
>> you'd
>> have an idea for what really might be going on (or where a boot/ 
>> hardware
>> problem was) – but realistically that's more of a long term UI
>> opportunity**.
>>
>> ** Sebastian: Do you know just where/when each progress update is
>> triggered, and what major boot landmark could be sensible to visually
>> indicate success of?
>
> Sorry, I'm not exactly sure *when* it gets triggered. What I can  
> tell you from looking at the tarball is that there are also other  
> themes, which contain a different number of .png files. For example,  
> there's one, that contains 32 progress and 19 throbber .png files.  
> So I guess plymouth adjusts what gets displayed to the number of  
> images. I suppose there's one event which triggers the change from  
> showing the progress to the throbber files, but I'm not sure, what  
> it is. From my experience, the throbber files are shown rather late  
> in the boot process, shortly before logging in.

Thanks understood, I think getting clever with the progress icons  
indicating real boot events is pushing the boat out a little too far  
just now. I was digging about for plymouth guides or instructions for  
'creatives' and there is almost nothing I could find except a README  
and the source code. A real quick skim gave me the impression that the  
plymouthd daemon does the main work, and then you go lace your  
relevant/desired start-up scripts with plymouth commands letting  
plymouthd know some progress state had passed.

One quick note, I'm on a MacBook Pro here so can only test Soas using  
VirtualBox. I think it's only ever showing the 'text' boot animation  
mode for me (black screen with blue/stripy progress bar at bottom with  
the word Soas at the right end). Just wanted to mention this as it  
means I can't see what you have done with the boot already, and can't  
tinker about and test this for real myself.

> Ray Strode (halfline in #fedora-devel) is one of the developers and  
> has been really helpful with regard to my questions when hacking the  
> logo into plymouth. He might know.

Thanks, will keep that in mind.

Regards,
--Gary

> --Sebastian
>
>> Regards
>> --Gary
>>
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[IAEP] CAST Universal Design for Learning Book Activity

[Caroline Meeks]

Hi,

I was playing with Jame's excellent Gutenberg book reader but I was
disappointed not to have pictures.  I think eBooks are an incredibly
important part of our vision and, once he makes a few in-progress UI changes
I think we should include it in SoaS.

I'm wondering if we can do something similar that searches CAST's UDL book
library.

http://bookbuilder.cast.org/library.php

The ones created for Mass Dept of Ed seem higher quality so maybe we should
just offer those for now even though there are only 663.  My current goals
are mostly to spark the imagination of of our testers and grant giving
organizations, plus if you are a first grader 63 books isn't too shabby a
library.

http://bookbuilder.cast.org/library.php?search=MASS&item=group&area=&genre=&gk=&g1=&g2=&g3=&g4=&g6=&g9=&sort=title&order=asc&page=2

Its flash and html so I know there are some complications, but showing kid
centric books, designed for universal learning and to accommodate kids with
disability would be very powerful.

Can anyone enlighten me about how this could be accomplished technically?

Thanks

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[IAEP] Volunteer Funnel

[Caroline Meeks]

Hi,

I've written up the notes from my Paris team:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Volunteer_Funnel

Please edit and add suggestions and also look around, look in the mirror, is
there anyone you can help become more deeply involved?

cheers,
Caroline

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Re: [IAEP] Volunteer Funnel

[David Farning]

There is this guy named Scott I met a couple weeks ago.  Seemed
pretty sharp:)

david

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Caroline Meeks
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've written up the notes from my Paris team:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Volunteer_Funnel
>
> Please edit and add suggestions and also look around, look in the mirror, is
> there anyone you can help become more deeply involved?
>
> cheers,
> Caroline
>
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> carol...@solutiongrove.com
>
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[IAEP] SoaS

[joglo]

Am running Fedora 10 and want to create a Sugar On A Stick.  Have a 4 GB
stick plugged into the computer's USB bus. Have Added the "liveusb
creator" software package (from the Fedora 10 list of packages) and run
it.  On the second try, the Live USB Creator window appears with the
following:

Download Fedora
  Fedora 10 (686)

Target Device
   /dev/sdc1 (Cruzer)

Downloading F10-i686 -Live iso...
Download complete!
Verifying file system ...
Verifying ISO MDS checksum ...
Verifying SHA1 of LiveCD image ...
Extracting live image to USB device ...
Setting up OLPC boot file ...
Installing bootloader ...
Complete (0:03:27)

Even though the log says Complete (0:03:27) an activity band, at the base
of the dialog window (with a blue runner) continues active.  I also can
see the computer's (disk activity???) light flashing periodically.  I let
it run for an hour then shut the computer off manually.

Following this I turned the computer on and when I looked at the Boot
Menu (my computer has two discs; one runs the Vista operating system and
the other runs Fedora 10) An item has been added to the Boot Menu (the
USB stick).  I clicked on it and next saw a screen which said simply
"Boot error".  Below was a blinking cursor.  I don't know what to at this
point.

Can you help me?

Joe Maina   
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Re: [IAEP] gcomprise

[Bruno Coudoin]

Le samedi 30 mai 2009 à 09:39 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso a écrit :
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 20:53, David Farning  wrote:
> > Some of the primary gcomprise developers were at the OLPCFrance
> > meeting earilyer this month.  Has anyone gotten a chance to follow up
> > with them on points of collaboration between gcomprise and Sugar?

Hi all,

It was nice to meet there. Hope we can make some process improvements to
improve the quality of GCompris on Sugar.

> We met with Bruno again in Paris and talked about some areas in which
> we can improve the gcompris experience in Sugar:
> 
> - integration of the GCompris admin tools in Sugar,
> - integration of the GCompris progress tracking tools in Sugar.

Not sure if its a good idea anyway. The admin tool is teacher oriented.
I don't see a teacher have to open all the children's XO to see what's
going on. I thing you need to setup an admin tool that plays well in a
classroom full of XO.

> - packaging of activities in sets or separated and distribution via
> activities.sugarlabs.org,

For this someone needs to write an importer to translate GCompris's XML
activities descriptions. This is what I am doing to create gcompris.net
activity descriptions. For information, there are 100 activities in 60
languages and it translated in 6000 article on the web site.

In GCompris I do this with a perl script and an xsl transformation
towards the format used by my online content management system. All the
code is in the docs directory. This should be possible to adapt them to
your internal structure.

> - distribution of localized content inside bundles or as addons,

This is tricky. I am working on the bundles currently and got an idea.

Would it be acceptable to ship my activity bundle with symbolic link to
the sounds bundles. Potentially these link will be dead unless the voice
bundle is installed.

If it is, then it's just a mater to create voices bundles and include
links in the activity bundle I ship. Very easy I think for me and for
the users.


> Bruno, am I missing anything?

Nothing more I can remember.

For now I am working on the bundling again to update my process but at
some point there will be a major need for someone to pick up this work
or GCompris will be unmaintained on Sugar.

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Re: [IAEP] gcomprise

[David Farning]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Bruno Coudoin  wrote:
> Le samedi 30 mai 2009 à 09:39 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso a écrit :
>> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 20:53, David Farning  wrote:
>> > Some of the primary gcomprise developers were at the OLPCFrance
>> > meeting earilyer this month.  Has anyone gotten a chance to follow up
>> > with them on points of collaboration between gcomprise and Sugar?
>
> Hi all,
>
> It was nice to meet there. Hope we can make some process improvements to
> improve the quality of GCompris on Sugar.

Sorry about mangling your project name.  I had never heard the name
pronounced correctly until I met you last week.  Now I only I could
learn the correct pronunciation of metacity:)


>> We met with Bruno again in Paris and talked about some areas in which
>> we can improve the gcompris experience in Sugar:
>>
>> - integration of the GCompris admin tools in Sugar,
>> - integration of the GCompris progress tracking tools in Sugar.
>
> Not sure if its a good idea anyway. The admin tool is teacher oriented.
> I don't see a teacher have to open all the children's XO to see what's
> going on. I thing you need to setup an admin tool that plays well in a
> classroom full of XO.

Yes, this is pretty high on the list of needs.  One group is testing iTALC.

david
>> - packaging of activities in sets or separated and distribution via
>> activities.sugarlabs.org,
>
> For this someone needs to write an importer to translate GCompris's XML
> activities descriptions. This is what I am doing to create gcompris.net
> activity descriptions. For information, there are 100 activities in 60
> languages and it translated in 6000 article on the web site.
>
> In GCompris I do this with a perl script and an xsl transformation
> towards the format used by my online content management system. All the
> code is in the docs directory. This should be possible to adapt them to
> your internal structure.
>
>> - distribution of localized content inside bundles or as addons,
>
> This is tricky. I am working on the bundles currently and got an idea.
>
> Would it be acceptable to ship my activity bundle with symbolic link to
> the sounds bundles. Potentially these link will be dead unless the voice
> bundle is installed.
>
> If it is, then it's just a mater to create voices bundles and include
> links in the activity bundle I ship. Very easy I think for me and for
> the users.
>
>
>> Bruno, am I missing anything?
>
> Nothing more I can remember.
>
> For now I am working on the bundling again to update my process but at
> some point there will be a major need for someone to pick up this work
> or GCompris will be unmaintained on Sugar.
>
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> http://toulibre.org  Logiciel Libre à Toulouse
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Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Christian Marc Schmidt]

On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> Re: grey vs. colors in progress: Actually, I have an issue with
> all-grey... users could worry that colors are not working in the Sugar
> UI.

If we treated the XO in the center in the selected color combination,
we would not only address Sean's point, but also act as a signifier of
identity. But I take it this is a technical challenge? I do also agree
with the point that gray means "in progress". A simplified version of
the current boot sequence, without the spinning/split XO, would work
well I think.

I wouldn't overthink the gray dots--they are just status indicators
and the more important aspect in this case (in my opinion) is the XO
and the radial arrangement that references the ring in Home.


Christian

>
> I think we should consider colors although I do appreciate the "still
> loading" context communicated by grey.
>
> I will post a mockup later expressing that approach; grey dots present
> right from the start (ring power!), filling in with color during
> progress... the ring "approaching" colors from grey
>
> I would not recommend customizing the splash/progress from within
> Sugar... boot time is often a tense moment fraught with impatience
> (especially after a freeze/crash) and predictability in how Sugar
> "usually" loads is I think desirable
>
> thanks
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
>> On 30 May 2009, at 16:36, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with your points--comments below:
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Gary C Martin 
>>> wrote:

 Hi Christian,

 On 30 May 2009, at 10:17, Christian Marc Schmidt wrote:

> Hi Gary, this looks good, though I wonder about the loss of the XO in
> the center. The boot sequence was intended to establish the UI, and in
> many ways the XO does signify the Sugar brand as much (more?) as the
> logo. Suggestion: Could we not simply show the logo for a few seconds,
> before transitioning into the current boot sequence? I'd hate to lose
> the current sequence, I think it works very well, and Eben will attest
> that much time was spent arriving at where we are today...

 Yes, agreed, the original boot up is very hard to beat (showing a child
 as
 central). Just bouncing ideas about here. My only criticisms of the
 original
 would be:

 1) not liking the kid icon breaking into a rotating arrow treatment
 (seems
 too forced/smart, the whole XO icon is a stronger identity, appearing
 dots
 show progress just fine)
>>>
>>> Yes, I fully agree! A stationary XO icon would be simpler, less forced.
>>>
 2) seemed odd for the dots to appear from 6 o'clock to 6 o'clock (12 to
 12
 feels more natural to me)
>>>
>>> Agree with that, too.
>>
>> Cool. There's a sample animation of the 2 above uploaded.
>>
 3) lack of any colour (though this is tough to avoid breaking HIG
 iconography on colour use)
>>>
>>> Here, I think it would be best if the XO would have the colors set in the
>>> UI...
>>
>> Sebastian is truly, madly, deeply going to hate you for this suggestion ;-)
>>
>> I do like that use of greys to signify that 'things are not ready yet' so
>> I'm on the fence here. I did try another animation with the dots appearing
>> in the 12 logo fill/outline colours. I did wonder about showing them all as
>> grey from the start, and then lighting up with colour.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Gary
>>
 Regards,
 --Gary

> Christian
>
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 10:59 PM, Gary C Martin 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Just to get a basic, safe, default starting point in there, I've
>> uploaded
>> one simple treatment to:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Boot_Logo#Sugar_Boot_Logo_Animations
>>
>> Will try to upload a couple more tomorrow.
>>
>> Night,
>> --Gary
>>
>> P.S. Should pull this back on list, your call Sean, but probably worth
>> getting a couple more ideas up so that folks can input to some
>> alternative
>> treatments.
>>
>> On 30 May 2009, at 00:58, Sean DALY wrote:
>>
>>> Christian, Eben
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if you are on sugar-devel but this is I think an
>>> outstanding opportunity for Sugar branding, "celebrating" Sugar
>>> interface.iconography and greeting children.
>>>
>>> I know nothing about the plymouth boot animator, but i deduce that
>>> consecutively named files will do the trick
>>>
>>> I'm willing to attack this but before I try scraping screenshots, do
>>> you guys have any interface assets i could grab?
>>>
>>> Input greatly appreciated
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Sean
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 12:32 AM, Sean DALY 
>>> wrote:

 Maybe we could work on it together?

 

Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc//rpms/plymouth/F-11/plymouth.spec?view=markup

found this snippet:

* Thu Oct 23 2008 Ray Strode  0.6.0-0.2008.10.23.1
- Add patch from Charlie to align progress bar to milestones during boot up



this article has useful info:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=fedora_plymouth&num=1


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Gary C Martin  wrote:
> On 30 May 2009, at 19:40, Sebastian Dziallas wrote:
>
>> Gary C Martin wrote:
>>> On 30 May 2009, at 18:50, Walter Bender wrote:
>>>
 On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Frederick Grose 
 wrote:
 [snip]
> For Sugar, the new "Hello World" tutorial could be its boot
> Activities for
> Learners: Each development tool (Pippy, Turtle Art, Etoys,
> others, even
> Forth) should provide an Activity to build the start-up sequence.
> Learners
> could play with the tools to build an endless variety of start-up
> spots,
> modify and preview from a library of saved sequences, learn all
> sorts of
> things about the system, the different tools, and of course,
> designate one
> sequence to display on the next boot.

 Fred has sparked an idea. What if we replace the dots with activity
 icons?
>>>
>>> Hmmm, activities shown might not be installed and then lead to
>>> confusion
>>> (unless you are considering the difficult step of pre-generating boot
>>> graphics at shutdown).
>>>
>>> There's a fine line between cool eye-candy – and there are plenty of
>>> cool Sugary lickable animations we could try, activity icons being
>>> one –
>>> and boot UI feedback utility :-)
>>>
>>> Now... If the technical boot stages could be made clear (device/
>>> keyboard
>>> checks, network detection, certain key services, etc) it could be of
>>> real use to have some simplified abstract icon for each stage so
>>> you'd
>>> have an idea for what really might be going on (or where a boot/
>>> hardware
>>> problem was) – but realistically that's more of a long term UI
>>> opportunity**.
>>>
>>> ** Sebastian: Do you know just where/when each progress update is
>>> triggered, and what major boot landmark could be sensible to visually
>>> indicate success of?
>>
>> Sorry, I'm not exactly sure *when* it gets triggered. What I can
>> tell you from looking at the tarball is that there are also other
>> themes, which contain a different number of .png files. For example,
>> there's one, that contains 32 progress and 19 throbber .png files.
>> So I guess plymouth adjusts what gets displayed to the number of
>> images. I suppose there's one event which triggers the change from
>> showing the progress to the throbber files, but I'm not sure, what
>> it is. From my experience, the throbber files are shown rather late
>> in the boot process, shortly before logging in.
>
> Thanks understood, I think getting clever with the progress icons
> indicating real boot events is pushing the boat out a little too far
> just now. I was digging about for plymouth guides or instructions for
> 'creatives' and there is almost nothing I could find except a README
> and the source code. A real quick skim gave me the impression that the
> plymouthd daemon does the main work, and then you go lace your
> relevant/desired start-up scripts with plymouth commands letting
> plymouthd know some progress state had passed.
>
> One quick note, I'm on a MacBook Pro here so can only test Soas using
> VirtualBox. I think it's only ever showing the 'text' boot animation
> mode for me (black screen with blue/stripy progress bar at bottom with
> the word Soas at the right end). Just wanted to mention this as it
> means I can't see what you have done with the boot already, and can't
> tinker about and test this for real myself.
>
>> Ray Strode (halfline in #fedora-devel) is one of the developers and
>> has been really helpful with regard to my questions when hacking the
>> logo into plymouth. He might know.
>
> Thanks, will keep that in mind.
>
> Regards,
> --Gary
>
>> --Sebastian
>>
>>> Regards
>>> --Gary
>>>
 -walter

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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

I understand the plymouth boot animator is specific to Fedora, but
that other distros are interested in adapting it.

At base our work is just a series of consecutively numbered PNG files

Sean


On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Walter Bender  wrote:
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, David Van Assche  
> wrote:
>> Yeah, this is also something that is relevant and usable across distros, so
>> lets try and make it distro agnostic
>>
>> David
>
> Agreed, but we may want to provide some way for the distros to get
> some acknowledgement. Perhaps some distro-specific patch that can be
> applied to indicate their contribution, similar to the "Fedora Remix"
> embossment on the OLPC splash screen?
>
> -walter
>
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Re: [IAEP] [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Request for Artwork: Boot Screen

[Sean DALY]

ah, found the mailing list:
http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/plymouth/



On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 12:22 AM, Sean DALY  wrote:
> I understand the plymouth boot animator is specific to Fedora, but
> that other distros are interested in adapting it.
>
> At base our work is just a series of consecutively numbered PNG files
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM, Walter Bender  
> wrote:
>> On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 9:15 AM, David Van Assche  
>> wrote:
>>> Yeah, this is also something that is relevant and usable across distros, so
>>> lets try and make it distro agnostic
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> Agreed, but we may want to provide some way for the distros to get
>> some acknowledgement. Perhaps some distro-specific patch that can be
>> applied to indicate their contribution, similar to the "Fedora Remix"
>> embossment on the OLPC splash screen?
>>
>> -walter
>>
>> --
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>> Sugar Labs
>> http://www.sugarlabs.org
>>
>
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