Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

[Tony Anderson]

Hi, Laura

With your and Walter's opinions, may be it is time to rethink mine.

With Sebastian's techniques the software tools can be run in any 
Gnome-compatible desktop. There is no need for Sugar.


SFC does not permit Sugar Labs to have labs. So without Sugar and 
without labs, perhaps after this mission statement, we to consider how 
to rename the project.


Tony


On 04/28/2017 11:48 AM, Laura Vargas wrote:

Dear Tony,

2017-04-27 22:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson >:


Still amazing!


I hope you mean this in the good way! I certainly believe names of the 
tools we facilitate to children should be as accurate as possible. I 
partly joined Sugar Labs Community because of  this basic design 
principle.


What is important about Sugar Labs is Sugar and Sugarizer.


That's your opinion and it's Ok to have an opinion.

In my case my opinion is what is important about Sugar Labs is the 
Community = users + supporters.


Regards and blessings to you

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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

[Laura Vargas]

Dear Tony,

2017-04-27 22:37 GMT-05:00 Tony Anderson :

> Still amazing!
>

I hope you mean this in the good way! I certainly believe names of the
tools we facilitate to children should be as accurate as possible. I partly
joined Sugar Labs Community because of  this basic design principle.


> What is important about Sugar Labs is Sugar and Sugarizer.
>

That's your opinion and it's Ok to have an opinion.

In my case my opinion is what is important about Sugar Labs is the
Community = users + supporters.

Regards and blessings to you

-- 
Laura V.
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

[Tony Anderson]

Still amazing! What is important about Sugar Labs is Sugar and Sugarizer.
Microsoft offers a collection of tools:

1. Learning Suite by Microsoft
   Over 20 of Microsoft's most popular education tools and teacher
   resources - all in one place!
2. Flashcards by Microsoft
   Build memory and recognition skills with a modern twist on the
   classic learning tool.
3. Office 365 for Education
   Free email, shared documents, storage and more! Office 365 offers
   all the tools you and your students need to succeed.
4. Photosynth
   Help students learn through interactive 3D experiences.
5. Microsoft Mathematics 4.0
   Visualize math concepts to promote better understanding.
6. Kinect for Windows SDK
   Transform ordinary classroom experiences into extraordinary
   immersive education.
7. Math Worksheet Generator
   Create great math worksheets in seconds!
8. Digital Storytelling Teaching Guide
   The ancient tradition of storytelling meets the digital age.
9. Kodu
   Teach programming, problem-solving and collaboration in a creative
   'hands-on' environment.
10. Interactive Classroom
   Use classroom polls to improve student learning.
11. Microsoft SkyDrive
   Easily manage, store and securely share thousands of classroom
   documents all in one place.
12. Chemistry Add-in for Word
   The simple, easy way to include chemistry information in your Word
   documents.
13. Mouse Mischief
   A fun way to keep your students' attention and increase
   participation in the classroom.
14. Songsmith
   Help your students 'find their spark' in the classroom with music.
15. Accessibility Guide for Educators
   Empower all students with accessible technology.
16. Office Add-in for Moodle
   Manage your courses with Moodle and Office documents all in one place.
17. Microsoft Mathematics Add-in for Word and OneNote
   Create, calculate, solve and import mathematical equations in Word
   and OneNote.
18. WorldWide Telescope
   Explore outer space from your classroom.
19. Project Tuva
   Make physics fun with a new twist on classic lectures.
20. Ribbon Hero 2
   Learning Office is a game – really!
21. Small Basic
   The fun and easy way to learn programming.
22. Bing: The Getting Started Guide for Educators
   Quickly find what you need in a visual, organized way.
23. Microsoft Digital Literacy Curriculum
   Prepare your students for the digital future.

'https://elearningindustry.com/23-microsoft-free-teaching-tools-for-educators-education'

Should we compare Sugar to this list?

Tony




On 04/28/2017 08:20 AM, Walter Bender wrote:



On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Tony Anderson > wrote:


On 04/28/2017 12:00 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org
 wrote:

"Sugar Labs is a community-run project whose mission is to
support a
collection of free/libre software tools that facilitates
learners to
discover, create, reflect, translate, share and appropriate
such tools in
sustainable and creative manners".


Sugar Labs is not a project, it is a organization of volunteers
which develops, supports and distributes Sugar.


Sugar Labs is a member project of the Software Freedom Conservancy.


Sugar is not a collection of software tools. It is a carefully
designed software system to support constructive learning.


The version in the motion covers this, except for the "carefully 
designed" bits.



It is amazing to see a mission statement that does not mention
either Sugar or Sugarizer.


Well, one could argue that those are expressions Since I am using 
0.110, I haven't experienced save as for some time so I couldn't tell 
when you were changing the name through the save as dialog or through 
the activity toolbar. The feature should work the same for all 
activities including sugar-web. There should only be one setting 
(gsetting does not depend on sugar/sugar3/web).of the mission, not the 
mission itself.


-walter


Tony





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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

[Laura Vargas]

2017-04-27 19:20 GMT-05:00 Walter Bender :

>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Tony Anderson 
> wrote:
>
>> On 04/28/2017 12:00 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:
>>
>>> "Sugar Labs is a community-run project whose mission is to support a
>>> collection of free/libre software tools that facilitates learners to
>>> discover, create, reflect, translate, share and appropriate such tools in
>>> sustainable and creative manners".
>>>
>>
>> Sugar Labs is not a project, it is a organization of volunteers which
>> develops, supports and distributes Sugar.
>>
>
> Sugar Labs is a member project of the Software Freedom Conservancy.
>

>> Sugar is not a collection of software tools. It is a carefully designed
>> software system to support constructive learning.
>>
>
> The version in the motion covers this, except for the "carefully designed"
> bits.
>
>>
>> It is amazing to see a mission statement that does not mention either
>> Sugar or Sugarizer.
>>
>
> Well, one could argue that those are expressions of the mission, not the
> mission itself.
>


Both missions proposed can be compared here:

https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/2017_Goals

Laura



> -walter
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>> Tony
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Re: [IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

[Walter Bender]

On Thu, Apr 27, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Tony Anderson 
wrote:

> On 04/28/2017 12:00 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:
>
>> "Sugar Labs is a community-run project whose mission is to support a
>> collection of free/libre software tools that facilitates learners to
>> discover, create, reflect, translate, share and appropriate such tools in
>> sustainable and creative manners".
>>
>
> Sugar Labs is not a project, it is a organization of volunteers which
> develops, supports and distributes Sugar.
>

Sugar Labs is a member project of the Software Freedom Conservancy.

>
> Sugar is not a collection of software tools. It is a carefully designed
> software system to support constructive learning.
>

The version in the motion covers this, except for the "carefully designed"
bits.

>
> It is amazing to see a mission statement that does not mention either
> Sugar or Sugarizer.
>

Well, one could argue that those are expressions of the mission, not the
mission itself.

-walter


>
> Tony
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[IAEP] Sugar Labs mission statment

[Tony Anderson]

On 04/28/2017 12:00 AM, iaep-requ...@lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:

"Sugar Labs is a community-run project whose mission is to support a
collection of free/libre software tools that facilitates learners to
discover, create, reflect, translate, share and appropriate such tools in
sustainable and creative manners".


Sugar Labs is not a project, it is a organization of volunteers which 
develops, supports and distributes Sugar.


Sugar is not a collection of software tools. It is a carefully designed 
software system to support constructive learning.


It is amazing to see a mission statement that does not mention either 
Sugar or Sugarizer.


Tony





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