RE: [iagi-net-l] FW : 1 ONS BUKAN 100 GRAM
Mungkin benar juga karena ada referensinya (sistim Dutch / Belanda). Tapi yang biasa dipakai untuk ukuran besaran di GG data adalah 1. Sistem metric (m, km, gr, kg, seconds, etc) atau 2. Sistem English (feet, mile, ounce, pound, seconds, etc) Memang ada beberapa tambahan seperti barel, etc. Yang perlu dilakukan adalah standarisasi data dan format karena contohnya dulu data seismik hasil reprocessing disimpan dalam standar perusahaan processing masing-masing. Masalahnya ketika akan dibaca harus dengan sistem perusahaan yang memproduksinya dulu, lebih gawat lagi bila perusahaan tsb sudah tidak ada dan data original lapangannya sudah tidak ada / tidak bisa dibaca lagi. Jadi perlu ada standarisasi data, seperti seismik harus dalam SEGY atau SEGD demultiplexed. Sedang data well / sumur dalam LAS atau LIS. Data penunjang lainnya harus dalam format ASCII. Sehingga standar data ini dapat dibaca / diproses ulang oleh perusahaan lainnya. Salam TAM yang pernah merasakan sulitnya melakukan standarisasi data seismik di awal 90-an. --- Musakti, Oki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Salah 1 Ons itu benar 100 gram dan tidak sama dengan 1 ounce (28.35 gr) 1 Pon itu benar 500 gram dan tidak sama dengan 1 pound (453.6 gr) Ini saya copy kan artikel yang mungkin bisa sedikit menjelaskan. Seperti biasa, colongan dari milis sebelah Dari: http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictO.html *ons* a Dutch unit of weight or mass, now used as a metric unit equal to the hectogram (100 grams, or about 3.5274 ounces). *ounce (oz or oz av) [1]* a traditional unit of weight. The *avoirdupois ounce*, the unit commonly used in the United States, is 1/16 pound or about 28.3495 grams. The avoirdupois ounce also equals 175/192 = about 0.911 457 troy ounce or 437.5 grains http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictG.html#grain. The word ounce is from the Latin /uncia/, meaning a 1/12 part, because the Roman pound was divided into 12 ounces. The word inch, meaning 1/12 foot, has the same root. The symbol oz is from the old Italian word /onza/ (now spelled /oncia/) for an ounce. See avoirdupois weights http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictA.html#avoirdupois for additional information. http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictP.html *pond [1]* the Dutch pound, historically about 494 grams (1.089 English pounds). This unit was also used in the former Dutch Indies (now Indonesia) and throughout Southeast Asia. In the Netherlands, the pond has been reinterpreted now as a metric unit equal to exactly 500 grams (1.1023 pounds), like the German pfund. *pound (lb, lbm, or #) [1]* a traditional unit of mass or weight. The Romans used a pound (the /libra //pondo/, pound of weight) divided into 12 ounces. All the countries of western Europe used similar units, divided into 12 or 16 ounces, until the advent of the metric system. 12-ounce pounds were common in Italy and southern France, but in Spain and northern Europe 16-ounce pounds became the norm. The word libra http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictL.html#libra is used for this unit in Italy, Spain, and Portugal; in France it is called the livre http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictL.html#livre. Further north, the Latin word /pondo/ (weight) is the origin of the names of the English pound, Dutch pond, Danish pund, German pfund, and Russian funt. In England, two different pound units became standard. The unit now in general use in the United States is the *avoirdupois pound*, so-called from a French phrase /avoir du poids/, literally goods of weight, indicating simply that the goods were being sold by weight rather than by volume or by the piece. The avoirdupois pound is divided into 16 ounces http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictO.html#ounce. By international agreement, one avoirdupois pound is equal to exactly 453.592 37 grams; this is exactly 175/144 = 1.215 28 troy pounds. See avoirdupois weights http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictA.html#avoirdupois for additional information. The traditional symbol *lb* stands for /libra/, the Latin word for the unit. The avoirdupois pound is sometimes abbreviated *lb av* or *lb ap* to distinguish it from the less common troy pound.The symbol *lbm* is used in science to distinguish the pound of mass from the pound of force (lbf): see *pound force*, below. Kesimpulan saya, CMIIW: Tak salah kalau orang Indonesia mengatakan 1 ons = 100 gr, seperti kalau kita belanja dipasar. Karena hal ini memang sudah umum, dan memang benar ini kita warisi dari Belanda. Cuman masalahnya apa terjemahan Inggris-Indonesia dari ounce? Biar tidak ambigu, mungkin ounce tak usah diterjemahkan ke ons, tapi cukup 1 ounce = 28,35 gr. Toh saya rasa hanya kalangan tertentu (engineering, scientist) yang menggunakan istilah ounce. Itu juga sama dengan pound, kita juga tak pernah menggunakan pound, or do we? Dan pon yang dikenal
RE: [iagi-net-l] FW : 1 ONS BUKAN 100 GRAM
Oki benar. Kita ambil hikmahnya saja, kalau tidak tahu lebih baik bertanya dari pada berteriak-teriak yang ternyata salah. Ukuran berat tersebut sering terlihat di makanan yang datangnya dari negeri sono. Mengenai standard ya kita memang pakai cgs (centi, gram, sekon) Salam, BP -Original Message- From: Musakti, Oki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 9:17 AM To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id Subject: RE: [iagi-net-l] FW : 1 ONS BUKAN 100 GRAM Salah 1 Ons itu benar 100 gram dan tidak sama dengan 1 ounce (28.35 gr) 1 Pon itu benar 500 gram dan tidak sama dengan 1 pound (453.6 gr) Ini saya copy kan artikel yang mungkin bisa sedikit menjelaskan. Seperti biasa, colongan dari milis sebelah Dari: http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictO.html *ons* a Dutch unit of weight or mass, now used as a metric unit equal to the hectogram (100 grams, or about 3.5274 ounces). *ounce (oz or oz av) [1]* a traditional unit of weight. The *avoirdupois ounce*, the unit commonly used in the United States, is 1/16 pound or about 28.3495 grams. The avoirdupois ounce also equals 175/192 = about 0.911 457 troy ounce or 437.5 grains http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictG.html#grain. The word ounce is from the Latin /uncia/, meaning a 1/12 part, because the Roman pound was divided into 12 ounces. The word inch, meaning 1/12 foot, has the same root. The symbol oz is from the old Italian word /onza/ (now spelled /oncia/) for an ounce. See avoirdupois weights http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictA.html#avoirdupois for additional information. http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictP.html *pond [1]* the Dutch pound, historically about 494 grams (1.089 English pounds). This unit was also used in the former Dutch Indies (now Indonesia) and throughout Southeast Asia. In the Netherlands, the pond has been reinterpreted now as a metric unit equal to exactly 500 grams (1.1023 pounds), like the German pfund. *pound (lb, lbm, or #) [1]* a traditional unit of mass or weight. The Romans used a pound (the /libra //pondo/, pound of weight) divided into 12 ounces. All the countries of western Europe used similar units, divided into 12 or 16 ounces, until the advent of the metric system. 12-ounce pounds were common in Italy and southern France, but in Spain and northern Europe 16-ounce pounds became the norm. The word libra http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictL.html#libra is used for this unit in Italy, Spain, and Portugal; in France it is called the livre http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictL.html#livre. Further north, the Latin word /pondo/ (weight) is the origin of the names of the English pound, Dutch pond, Danish pund, German pfund, and Russian funt. In England, two different pound units became standard. The unit now in general use in the United States is the *avoirdupois pound*, so-called from a French phrase /avoir du poids/, literally goods of weight, indicating simply that the goods were being sold by weight rather than by volume or by the piece. The avoirdupois pound is divided into 16 ounces http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictO.html#ounce. By international agreement, one avoirdupois pound is equal to exactly 453.592 37 grams; this is exactly 175/144 = 1.215 28 troy pounds. See avoirdupois weights http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictA.html#avoirdupois for additional information. The traditional symbol *lb* stands for /libra/, the Latin word for the unit. The avoirdupois pound is sometimes abbreviated *lb av* or *lb ap* to distinguish it from the less common troy pound.The symbol *lbm* is used in science to distinguish the pound of mass from the pound of force (lbf): see *pound force*, below. Kesimpulan saya, CMIIW: Tak salah kalau orang Indonesia mengatakan 1 ons = 100 gr, seperti kalau kita belanja dipasar. Karena hal ini memang sudah umum, dan memang benar ini kita warisi dari Belanda. Cuman masalahnya apa terjemahan Inggris-Indonesia dari ounce? Biar tidak ambigu, mungkin ounce tak usah diterjemahkan ke ons, tapi cukup 1 ounce = 28,35 gr. Toh saya rasa hanya kalangan tertentu (engineering, scientist) yang menggunakan istilah ounce. Itu juga sama dengan pound, kita juga tak pernah menggunakan pound, or do we? Dan pon yang dikenal oleh umumnya kita memang, 1 pon = 500 gr, sama persis, kita mewarisinya dari Belanda, dan sudah dimodifikasi dari asalnya pond = 494 gr. So biarlah orang umum di Indonesia menggunakan: 1 ons = 100 gr 1 pon = 500 gr jadi 1 pon= 5 ons. Dengan ini, Ibu-ibu yang suka belanja nggak perlu bakal bingung.:) tetapi untuk keperluan tertentu yang menggunakan ounce atau pond, 1 ounce = 28.35 gr 1 pound = 453,6 gr Barangkali kendala untuk 2 yang terakhir ini adalah terjemahan ke bahasa Indonesia, mungkin ini yang perlu dicari bersama. Wallahua'lam. -Original Message- From: Taufik Manan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2005 9:02 AM To: Milis IAGI; Himpunan Ahli Geofisika Indonesia (HAGI); HFI Fisikawan Indonesia Subject: [iagi-net-l] FW
Re: [iagi-net-l] FW : 1 ONS BUKAN 100 GRAM
Saya pikir maksud beliau menuliskan artikel itu baik dan contoh yang diberikan pun sesuai dengan 'kesalahan' yang ingin beliau hilangkan. Cuma ternyata ons-nya Indonesia itu berbeda dengan ounce-nya versi Inggris. Hikmah yang bias diambil adalah cek dan ricek terhadap sebuah artikel/tulisan ternyata memang penting. Min -- - 100 Gmail invitations to go, contact me if you're interested. - Articles on Liverpool FC at http://minarwan.spymac.net/blog - To unsubscribe, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, send email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit IAGI Website: http://iagi.or.id IAGI-net Archive 1: http://www.mail-archive.com/iagi-net%40iagi.or.id/ IAGI-net Archive 2: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iagi Komisi Sedimentologi (FOSI) : Deddy Sebayang([EMAIL PROTECTED])-http://fosi.iagi.or.id Komisi SDM/Pendidikan : Edy Sunardi([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Komisi Karst : Hanang Samodra([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Komisi Sertifikasi : M. Suryowibowo([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Komisi OTODA : Ridwan Djamaluddin([EMAIL PROTECTED] atau [EMAIL PROTECTED]), Arif Zardi Dahlius([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Komisi Database Geologi : Aria A. Mulhadiono([EMAIL PROTECTED]) -
RE: [iagi-net-l] FW : 1 ONS BUKAN 100 GRAM
Salah 1 Ons itu benar 100 gram dan tidak sama dengan 1 ounce (28.35 gr) 1 Pon itu benar 500 gram dan tidak sama dengan 1 pound (453.6 gr) Ini saya copy kan artikel yang mungkin bisa sedikit menjelaskan. Seperti biasa, colongan dari milis sebelah Dari: http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictO.html *ons* a Dutch unit of weight or mass, now used as a metric unit equal to the hectogram (100 grams, or about 3.5274 ounces). *ounce (oz or oz av) [1]* a traditional unit of weight. The *avoirdupois ounce*, the unit commonly used in the United States, is 1/16 pound or about 28.3495 grams. The avoirdupois ounce also equals 175/192 = about 0.911 457 troy ounce or 437.5 grains http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictG.html#grain. The word ounce is from the Latin /uncia/, meaning a 1/12 part, because the Roman pound was divided into 12 ounces. The word inch, meaning 1/12 foot, has the same root. The symbol oz is from the old Italian word /onza/ (now spelled /oncia/) for an ounce. See avoirdupois weights http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictA.html#avoirdupois for additional information. http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/dictP.html *pond [1]* the Dutch pound, historically about 494 grams (1.089 English pounds). This unit was also used in the former Dutch Indies (now Indonesia) and throughout Southeast Asia. In the Netherlands, the pond has been reinterpreted now as a metric unit equal to exactly 500 grams (1.1023 pounds), like the German pfund. *pound (lb, lbm, or #) [1]* a traditional unit of mass or weight. The Romans used a pound (the /libra //pondo/, pound of weight) divided into 12 ounces. All the countries of western Europe used similar units, divided into 12 or 16 ounces, until the advent of the metric system. 12-ounce pounds were common in Italy and southern France, but in Spain and northern Europe 16-ounce pounds became the norm. The word libra http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictL.html#libra is used for this unit in Italy, Spain, and Portugal; in France it is called the livre http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictL.html#livre. Further north, the Latin word /pondo/ (weight) is the origin of the names of the English pound, Dutch pond, Danish pund, German pfund, and Russian funt. In England, two different pound units became standard. The unit now in general use in the United States is the *avoirdupois pound*, so-called from a French phrase /avoir du poids/, literally goods of weight, indicating simply that the goods were being sold by weight rather than by volume or by the piece. The avoirdupois pound is divided into 16 ounces http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictO.html#ounce. By international agreement, one avoirdupois pound is equal to exactly 453.592 37 grams; this is exactly 175/144 = 1.215 28 troy pounds. See avoirdupois weights http://www.unc.edu/%7Erowlett/units/dictA.html#avoirdupois for additional information. The traditional symbol *lb* stands for /libra/, the Latin word for the unit. The avoirdupois pound is sometimes abbreviated *lb av* or *lb ap* to distinguish it from the less common troy pound.The symbol *lbm* is used in science to distinguish the pound of mass from the pound of force (lbf): see *pound force*, below. Kesimpulan saya, CMIIW: Tak salah kalau orang Indonesia mengatakan 1 ons = 100 gr, seperti kalau kita belanja dipasar. Karena hal ini memang sudah umum, dan memang benar ini kita warisi dari Belanda. Cuman masalahnya apa terjemahan Inggris-Indonesia dari ounce? Biar tidak ambigu, mungkin ounce tak usah diterjemahkan ke ons, tapi cukup 1 ounce = 28,35 gr. Toh saya rasa hanya kalangan tertentu (engineering, scientist) yang menggunakan istilah ounce. Itu juga sama dengan pound, kita juga tak pernah menggunakan pound, or do we? Dan pon yang dikenal oleh umumnya kita memang, 1 pon = 500 gr, sama persis, kita mewarisinya dari Belanda, dan sudah dimodifikasi dari asalnya pond = 494 gr. So biarlah orang umum di Indonesia menggunakan: 1 ons = 100 gr 1 pon = 500 gr jadi 1 pon= 5 ons. Dengan ini, Ibu-ibu yang suka belanja nggak perlu bakal bingung.:) tetapi untuk keperluan tertentu yang menggunakan ounce atau pond, 1 ounce = 28.35 gr 1 pound = 453,6 gr Barangkali kendala untuk 2 yang terakhir ini adalah terjemahan ke bahasa Indonesia, mungkin ini yang perlu dicari bersama. Wallahua'lam. -Original Message- From: Taufik Manan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 26 April 2005 9:02 AM To: Milis IAGI; Himpunan Ahli Geofisika Indonesia (HAGI); HFI Fisikawan Indonesia Subject: [iagi-net-l] FW : 1 ONS BUKAN 100 GRAM Sahabat, Saya teruskan artikel dari milis tetangga yang baik yang menjelaskan kebiasaan yang salah yang diterima ketika kita (anak kita) masih belajar di SD. Kesalahan fundamental ini harus diperbaiki dengan tanggung jawab kita bersama. Wassalam. TAM --- Prananto Setiawan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sent: Monday, 25 April, 2005 4:11 PM
