Re: Strobe Question...

2005-06-16 Thread Michael Knigge

I would hope you do!
How do you think programme initiation works without consuming CPU?


;)  I know that initiation needs some time, but I assume that there is 
something really strange with my program, because this "initialization" 
takes really, really long...


My WORKING-STORAGE is nearly empty and there are just two PIC(1) fields 
with a VALUE - so initialization of WORKING-STORAGE should not take much 
time.


I also tried to CALL the program with a PROCEDURE-POINTER, but nothing 
changes


Hmm is it somehow possible to get the ASM-Source of the 
initialization code?



Bye
  Michael

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Re: IEBTASKN . . .

2005-06-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


I had thought that for different processors; more likely on different
systems (have I got that term right?) in a sysplex, it is possible that
a = b; in fact that is the rationale for providing the programmable
value -- it guarantees uniqueness overall.  So, if the processor with
the higher programmable value does a STCK[E] very shortly before the
processor with the lower programmable value so a = b, the first STCKE
will store a higher value than the second.  The question is whether
any event, or communication between processors, in so short an interval
(less than one clock tick) can manifest monotonicity violation.
 



I believe the use of STCKSYNC by very sensitive multi-system routines 
reduces the possibiliy of this to zero.


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Re: IEBTASKN . . .

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, john gilmore said:

> Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 02:30:25 +
> 
> >Yet I wonder, beyond uniqueness, can there ever be any perceived violation
> >of monotonicity?
> >  Might one processor do a STCK, then send a signal to another processor
> >which, in turn does its
> >STCK and sees a value (including the TOD register content) algebraically
> >less than the one that
> >demonstrably happend earlier?
> 
> Substituting STCKE values for at best obsolescent STCK values in the above,
> 
I stand corrected; thanks.

> it is clear that for two STCKE values a, b
> 
>  a||
>  b||
> 
> and a < b,
> 
I had thought that for different processors; more likely on different
systems (have I got that term right?) in a sysplex, it is possible that
a = b; in fact that is the rationale for providing the programmable
value -- it guarantees uniqueness overall.  So, if the processor with
the higher programmable value does a STCK[E] very shortly before the
processor with the lower programmable value so a = b, the first STCKE
will store a higher value than the second.  The question is whether
any event, or communication between processors, in so short an interval
(less than one clock tick) can manifest monotonicity violation.

> a|| < b||
> 
> obtains for all values of  and .
> 
> Consider
> 
>  = 'zzz',  = 'aaa', it is still
> the case that
> 
>  a||'zzz' < b||'aaa'
> 
> for all a < b.  This, of course, is why the programmable field occupies the
> rightmost two bytes of an STCKE value.
> 
> The triviality of this argument suggests that the thrust of Terence's
> injunction to think before one speaks has somehow been lost and needs to be
> recovered here.
> 
All predicated on the assumption that a < b.

So, I RTFM:


Title: ESA/390 Principles of Operation
Document Number: SA22-7201-04

(I'm on a dialup connection right now and haven't access to the newer PDFs.)

I see:

#   4.6.1.4 "ESA/390 Principles of Operation"
 _
4.6.1.4 Setting and Inspecting the Clock

   The values stored for a running clock always correctly imply the sequence of 
execution
   of STORE CLOCK on one or more CPUs for all cases where the sequence can be 
established
   by means of the program. 

Which answers my question, for a single system, not necessarily for a sysplex.
Or does the restriction "a running clock" as opposed to "one or more running
clocks" leave open the question in cases where the model posesses multiple 
clocks?

Zeros are stored in positions to the right of the 
bit
   position that is incremented. In a configuration with more than one CPU, 
however, when
   the value of a running clock is stored, nonzero values may be stored in 
positions to
   the right of the rightmost position that is incremented. This ensures that a 
unique
   value is stored.

I'll assume that the nonzero values are necessary to ensure uniqueness, not
frivolous complexity, and thus that it's possible that a = b.

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Re: DASD and Mirroring

2005-06-16 Thread Skip Robinson
According to modern (American evangelical) theology, if you allow for the
existence of a single devil, then you must provide decent accommodations
for entire families, tribes, and nations of them. Way too demonic for my
secular taste.

In any case, we mirror a couple of thousand volumes with XRC via FICON DWDM
('dark fiber') at about 100 KM more or less. I believe in this technology
because it's independent of volume location within DASD subsystems that
come and go and get massively reconfigured over time. We mirror every
single volume except for a defined subset that contain either transient
'who cares' work files or data than can be recreated or kissed good-bye
without fanfare.

My own view is that DASD-to-DASD solutions are all prone to data
inconsistency in the case of abrupt failure. Unless meticulous care is
taken to put all consistency-dependent data within the scope of a single
hardware realm, however that's defined by a particular architecture, then
sudden and catastrophic loss of connection might well degenerate into the
sort of haphazard chaotic recover-by-backup FUBAR that mirroring is
supposed to have rendered obsolete in the first place.

Then again, we haven't tried anything other than XRC for the mainframe.
When you have solution that works, you don't poke sticks into its orifices.

.
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> Robert Justice wrote:
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> > We're in the middle of a DASD RFP between IBM, HDS, and EMC.
> >
> > Anyone like to share their experiences with either IBM DS8300, EMC
DMX3000
> > or HDS TAGMASTOR.
> >
> > Also would be interested in mirroring solution, XRC or SRDF/A, how many
TB,
> > and distance.
>
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Re: CHECKPOINT OUT OF DATE?

2005-06-16 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/16/2005 8:53:05 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

When I  use sd.st to check my job,I found a message "CHECKPOINT OUT OF
DATE" on the  right top corner of the screen, and my job submitted can't be
found in  sd.st(can be found in sd.da). So how to resolve this  problem?



>>
Need to find who fiddled with the CHECKPOINT datasets. Could
be a legimate hardware problem, a software problem-somebody DEFRAGGED  volume 
with CHECKPOINT.
 
Guess I'd start with EREP, then JES and see what it thinks are status of  
CHKPTS. Then preallocate new CHECKPOINT datasets and go thru the RECONFIG  
exercise. To move current CHECKPOINTS to new
ones. Don't forget to update JESPARMS for next  IPL.

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Re: NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?

2005-06-16 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/16/2005 7:01:51 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

problem  before that I recall. I have pretty much "do everything"
authority in  RACF.



>>
Looks like an ISFPARMS message. If it's RACF should see
ICH408 in SYSLOG for Access violation. Guess you can do a
WHO in SDSF command line and see GRPINDEX and see if you're
in the Group that can view this SYSOUT..
 

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Re: IEBTASKN . . .

2005-06-16 Thread john gilmore

Paul Gilmartin writes:



Yet I wonder, beyond uniqueness, can there ever be any perceived violation 
of monotonicity?
 Might one processor do a STCK, then send a signal to another processor 
which, in turn does its
STCK and sees a value (including the TOD register content) algebraically 
less than the one that

demonstrably happend earlier?



Substituting STCKE values for at best obsolescent STCK values in the above, 
it is clear that for two STCKE values a, b


a||
b||

and a < b,

   a|| < b||

obtains for all values of  and .

Consider

 = 'zzz',  = 'aaa', it is still 
the case that


a||'zzz' < b||'aaa'

for all a < b.  This, of course, is why the programmable field occupies the 
rightmost two bytes of an STCKE value.


The triviality of this argument suggests that the thrust of Terence's 
injunction to think before one speaks has somehow been lost and needs to be 
recovered here.


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CHECKPOINT OUT OF DATE?

2005-06-16 Thread Wang Rong
Hi all,

When I use sd.st to check my job,I found a message "CHECKPOINT OUT OF
DATE" on the right top corner of the screen, and my job submitted can't be
found in sd.st(can be found in sd.da). So how to resolve this problem?

Thank you!



Wang Rong

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Re: Top Secret TIMELOCK value

2005-06-16 Thread Tony Babonas
I reiterate my YMMV caveat since I can only speak for the secfile demand
patterns of our shop.  The numbers I cite have worked flawlessly for us
since '99 and hopefully are conceptually correct in other environments.  In
other environments those same numbers may perform acceptably or give you
worse headaches than you're suffering today.  Our empirical "bad" experience
did however leave us with one well performing lpar, unfortunately most of
the other 10 in the sharing complex were gasping desperately for time slices
that the offending lpar was hoarding.

Having "disclaimered" myself all the ways I can think of, let me offer.


More suggestions:
1. Double, triple, quadruple check that option 61 is on everywhere.
2. check dasd contention on the secfile volume.
3. review the caching value and frequency of cache flushes.
4. set up some form of DOS attack to simulate high usage logon volume.
5. double check the CF capacity and contenders there, who knows ?
6. analyze the size of popular profile acids, relative to secfile blocksize.
7. set your automation product to issue F TSS,STATS every few minutes, it's
only a few SYSLOG lines and a 
   handy basic set of stats. 

lastly: Keeping talking to CA, their lev 2 probably has more tuning tricks
to offer.

I realize I'm suggesting "curing your backache by ensuring there's not a
knife in it" but what the heck, maybe we'll stumble on to something.   

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: Top Secret TIMELOCK value

Much thanks for your response Tony.

I have to admit to being a bit disheartened.  We have been having problems
with response time with the TSS db in the CF .. but support never even
suggested looking at the TIMELOCK or changing it.

What we have noticed is that the system that is not local to the CF (if you
are using internal CFs) converts about 2/3 of the messages to asynch .. ..
but the system that is local to the CF does 100% synch.  Curiously enough
the system that converts to asynch performs much better than the TSS that is
located on the system that has a local CF.

|-|   |-|
| |   | |
|sys1 |   |sys2 |
|-|   |-|
| cf  |   | |
|-|   |-|

In this drawing, sys2's TSS performs better than the one on sys1 due to
IBM's synch-to-asynch conversion that happens.

I am in the process of separating the databases to produce better responding
systems.. since there was no offered way to steady the performance.

I will take the suggestion of the TIMELOCK and work with it.

-Rob




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Re: EIBTASKN - maximum value 999999 or 99999 ?

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Edward E. Jaffe said:

> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:12:10 -0700
> 
> >What ever became of the guarantee that STCK would return unique values
> >(subject to clock wrap)?
> 
> Why do you ask, "What ever became of ..."? Nothing has changed in this area.
> 
Sorry; obtuse rhetoric.  A previous contributor, wanting a unique token
found that time rounded to a 0.1 second granularity was not satisfactory,
and resorted to other techniques.  What became of the uniqueness was that
his rounding destroyed it.

> >(Does STCKE make similar assurance?)
> 
> RTFM. The answer is yes.
> 
Thanks.

> >(Is there any similar assurance across a sysplex?)
> 
> Yes. That's the reason for the TOD register contents being stored as
> part of STCKE.
> 
Yet I wonder, beyond uniqueness, can there ever be any perceived
violation of monotonicity?  Might one processor do a STCK, then
send a signal to another processor which, in turn does its STCK
and sees a value (including the TOD register content) algebraically
less than the one that demonstrably happend earlier?

I suppose it doesn't matter much.

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NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in SDSF?

2005-06-16 Thread Charles Mills
What is NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED in the upper right hand corner of SDSF
likely to be caused by?
 
I've got a job that runs with MSGCLASS=H where H is a held class. The
job has one SYSOUT=* dataset. If I do a ? on the job, I can see the
SYSOUT=* dataset's description, but when I put an S next to the dataset
name and hit Enter, I get NO DATA SETS AUTHORIZED. The explanation of
the message in the FM is not much help. I can browse the JESx
datasets for the job with no problem.
 
This is only for one particular job's output. I've never hit this
problem before that I recall. I have pretty much "do everything"
authority in RACF.
 
Thanks,

Charles Mills


 

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Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Buy four get one free 

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Betreff: Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation


Maybe they'll sell us a meta-session manager to manage our sessions with the 
session managers.

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Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/16/2005 4:22:12 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Maybe  they'll sell us a meta-session manager to manage our sessions with 
the  session managers.




Be Linux based and cost $50 grand per MSU and require  ETR?

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Re: IN ASSEMBLER - READ FILES BY TRACK

2005-06-16 Thread Mark Thomen
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> The main purpose is to have the more efficient process with the best
> performances. Also, I'm currently working for a company where a lot of
> jobs (old jobs) are written in assembler. Today I should modify one and
> add an access to a big sequential file, about 13,000,000 of records.
> Each of them should be read. I can't rewrite the job.

Instead of reinventing the wheel, why not take a look at the buffering,
blocksizes, and other options?  There are sufficient facilities that
already exist in z/OS and DFSMS to improve performance without going back
to writing code in assembler to read tracks at a time.  Proper buffering
values will accomplish the same purpose and there are lots of other
methodologies.  Maybe the programs reading the data are poorly written -
don't assume you need a new "module" to do the I/O - fix the old programs.

Thanks,
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Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM Development
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Re: ADABAS 7.4.3 CPU use question

2005-06-16 Thread Jim FRanklin
List members,

Did the same conversion April this year. 

Saw about a 3% increase in mips from out tests.

Some observations from our database people

The Natural Global bufferpool now uses a hashing algorithm to store and 
find Natural objects. Previously an indexed directory was used.
Natural USR* subprograms supplied by Software AG are handled in a special 
more efficient way inside the Natural Global bufferpool. A search of the 
steplib hierarchy is no longed required to access the USR* routines.
A new compression algorithm is used for CICS threads. 


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Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Eric Chevalier wrote:


Doesn't this purchase now give IBM *four* VTAM session manager offerings?

 * InterSession (from Isogon)
 * SuperSession (from Candle)
 * IBM Session Manager for z/OS (rebranded Macro4 Tubes)
 * NetView Access Services
 



Looks like this could raise some anti-trust eyebrows at DOJ. Nothing new 
for IBM.


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Re: Uniqueness of the result of an STCK or STCKE operation

2005-06-16 Thread john gilmore

This post supplements that of John McKown.

Paul Gilmartin writes:



What ever became of the guarantee that STCK would return unique values 
(subject to clock
wrap)?  (Does STCKE make similar assurance?) (Is there any similar 
assurance across a sysplex?)




Seriatim, nothing happened to the guarantee that successive STCK 
instructions executed by the same CP yield unique values that are in 
monotone ascending 'logical' sequence.


The same 'assiurance' is also available for STCKE values, which have the 
additional merit that they will not wrap in 2042.


The assurance across a multi-configuration sysplex is a little less 
straightforward.  It can be provided, but a one-time effort is required to 
do so.  The full 16-byte STCKE value contains a rightmost two-byte field 
(bits 112-127) called the Programmable Field.  This value can be set by a 
privileged instruction, SCKPF.  How to set these values to ensure the 
uniquess of STCKE values is then straightforward.  Quoting now the 
Principles of Operation:


Programming Note: The values in the TOD programmable registers of a 
configuration should be

the same and should be unique within a multiple-configuration system.


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Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread Tim Hare
Maybe they'll sell us a meta-session manager to manage our sessions with 
the session managers.


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Uniqueness of the result of an STCK/STCKE instruction.

2005-06-16 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 3:49 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
> Subject: Re: EIBTASKN - maximum value 99 or 9 ?
> 
> 
> In a recent note, John Bohumil said:
> 
> > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:06:29 -0500
> > 
> > So, this isn't really any better than just using the date 
> and time.  EIBTASKN is
> >  probably the safest because it's going to be unique for 
> tasks executing nearly
> > simultaneously.  I learned this the hard way when I was 
> using date/time to devel
> > op a TS Queue only to find out when two transactions occur 
> in the same 1/10 sec
> > they would generate duplicate TSQ names.  I switched to the 
> EIBTASKN and all was
> >  well.
> > 
> What ever became of the guarantee that STCK would return unique values
> (subject to clock wrap)?

The above was about the result from an EXEC CICS ABSTIME. It truncates
the STCK to the nearest 1/10 of a second, then extends that to
milliseconds by appending zeros.

>From the current PoPS (section 4.6.1.4)


Two executions of  STORE  CLOCK  or  STORE  CLOCK  EXTENDED,  possibly
on
different CPUs in the same configuration, always store different values
of
the  clock  if  the clock is running.   If the clock is stopped, zeros
are
stored in the clock value, bits 8-111 of the storage operand, in
positions
to the right of the rightmost bit position that is  incremented  when
the
clock is running.  The programmable field continues to be stored even
when
the clock is stopped.



> 
> (Does STCKE make similar assurance?)

See above.

> 
> (Is there any similar assurance across a sysplex?)

A sysplex requires either an ETR (ETRMODE YES in CLOCK00), or if all
members are on a single CEC, the SIMETRID parameter in the CLOCKnn
member of PARMLIB to be identical on all members. From the PoPS on an
External Timer Reference in section 1.3


The  external-time-reference facility provides a means to initiate and
maintain the  synchronization  of  TOD  clocks  to  an  external  time
reference  (ETR).  Synchronization tolerance of a few microseconds can
be achieved, and the effect of leap seconds  is  taken  into  account.
The  facility  consists of an ETR sending unit (Sysplex Timer*), which
may be duplexed, two or more ETR receiving  units,  and  optical-fiber
cables.  The cables are used to connect the ETR sending unit, which is
an  external device, to ETR receiving units of the configuration.  CPU
instructions are provided for setting  the  TOD  clock  to  the  value
supplied by the ETR sending unit.

-   The  ETR  automatic-propagation-delay-adjustment  function adjusts
the time signals from  the  ETR  to  the  attached  processors  to
compensate  for  the  propagation  delay  on  the  cables  to  the
processors, thus allowing the cables to be of  different  lengths.
(September, 1991)

-   The  ETR  external-time-source  function synchronizes the ETR to a
time signal  received  from  a  remote  location  by  means  of  a
telephone or radio.  (September, 1991)


and, from "z/OS: MVS Setting Up a Sysplex"


When the sysplex consists of multiple MVS systems running on two or
more processors, MVS requires that the processors be connected to the
same Sysplex Timer. MVS uses the Sysplex Timer to synchronize TOD
clocks across systems.

For a multisystem sysplex defined on a single processor (under PR/SM
or VM) the SIMETRID parameter in the CLOCKxx parmlib member must
specify the simulated Sysplex Timer identifier to synchronize timings
for the MVS systems.


So, since the STCK/STCKE is guaranteed to give a unique value on a
single system. And the ETR causes all systems to have synchronized TOD
clocks, the value of an STCK/STCKE is guaranteed to be unique withing a
sysplex. Well, I admit that I may be reaching on this. But I do remember
reading that an ETR guarantees that the result of an STCK/STCKE is
unique across all members of a Sysplex. I just cannot remember where I
read it.

> 
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Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread John Giltner
Sure the heck does.  We've been told that NetView Access Services is
"functionally stable" and will not be enhanced, that IBM Session Manager was
the way of the future.  However, that was before Candle and Isogon.



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>Doesn't this purchase now give IBM *four* VTAM session manager offerings?
>
>  * InterSession (from Isogon)
>  * SuperSession (from Candle)
>  * IBM Session Manager for z/OS (rebranded Macro4 Tubes)
>  * NetView Access Services
>
>Eric
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Re: EIBTASKN - maximum value 999999 or 99999 ?

2005-06-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


What ever became of the guarantee that STCK would return unique values
(subject to clock wrap)?
 



Why do you ask, "What ever became of ..."? Nothing has changed in this area.


(Does STCKE make similar assurance?)
 



RTFM. The answer is yes.


(Is there any similar assurance across a sysplex?)
 



Yes. That's the reason for the TOD register contents being stored as 
part of STCKE.


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Re: EIBTASKN - maximum value 999999 or 99999 ?

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, John Bohumil said:

> Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:06:29 -0500
> 
> So, this isn't really any better than just using the date and time.  EIBTASKN 
> is
>  probably the safest because it's going to be unique for tasks executing 
> nearly
> simultaneously.  I learned this the hard way when I was using date/time to 
> devel
> op a TS Queue only to find out when two transactions occur in the same 1/10 
> sec
> they would generate duplicate TSQ names.  I switched to the EIBTASKN and all 
> was
>  well.
> 
What ever became of the guarantee that STCK would return unique values
(subject to clock wrap)?

(Does STCKE make similar assurance?)

(Is there any similar assurance across a sysplex?)

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Re: EIBTASKN - maximum value 999999 or 99999 ?

2005-06-16 Thread John Bohumil
If the Cobol RANDOM function works like most random routines, if you call the 
random function with the exact same seed value, you get the exact same number 
back.  So if you used the same exact date and time values, you'd get the same 
number.  Most randoms are only pseudo random.  

So, this isn't really any better than just using the date and time.  EIBTASKN 
is probably the safest because it's going to be unique for tasks executing 
nearly simultaneously.  I learned this the hard way when I was using date/time 
to develop a TS Queue only to find out when two transactions occur in the same 
1/10 sec they would generate duplicate TSQ names.  I switched to the EIBTASKN 
and all was well.

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RES: Emulating SELTAPE=NEXT on z/OS.

2005-06-16 Thread ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO
John,

I have changed IEFTASSI, asking RACF if device should me
marked inelegible or not. If you wish a copy, email me 
offline.


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
Banco Bradesco S/A
4254/DPCD/Alphaville
Suporte Tecnico - Software Basico Mainframes

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I asked IBM about this on an ETR. They recommended looking that the
IEFTASSI code in SAMPLIB. I really need to emulate SELTAPE=NEXT due to
political pressure. I.e. management is now convinced that a least part
of our batch processes could run faster if z/OS would spread the tape
I/O out better. And they may well be correct. We have 32 3490E Escon
attached tape drives. This is four (4) banks of eight (8) drives. Each
bank has its own dedicated set of two Escon CHPs.

Anybody have any code that they could share that would get these people
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"You and Me and The World Wide Web" - a new course [work in progress] from The Trainer's Friend

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Comstock

Well, my new HTML / XHTML course is far enough
along I feel confident passing on a little
pre-announcement.

This is the first technical class from our group
that is _not_ mainframe based! It's for any
technical person who has to learn how to create
web pages.

The mainframe tie-in is this: if you will be
writing server-side scripts, you will be generating
HTML or XHTML output. So as a pre-requisite, you
need to know how this works. Alternatively, this
can be the tool for a little timely reskilling
if you are looking to stay in IT but get out of
mainframes.

So you can take the class using any workstation
that has an editor and a browser. No mainframe or
other backend connection is required (although you
could use one if you like).

This 3 or 4 day class will teach your people how
to create pages for the World Wide Web that are
accessible by virtually every modern browser
available including Netscape, Firefox, Internet
Explorer, Opera, Apache, Safari, and more.
The class is standards-based and tries very
hard to consistently only present material and
techniques that are the most widely used.

If you would like to see the course objectives,
look at:

http://www.trainersfriend.com/FTPsite/U518OBJ.PDF

If you want the next level of detail, drop me a
line or give me a call.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock

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ADABAS 7.4.3 CPU use question

2005-06-16 Thread Duffy, Peter
Hi, all,

We recently upgraded ADABAS to 7.4.3 from 7.1.3 and have seen CPU usage
go up by a factor of 3 to 4 in our primary LPAR on our busiest ADABAS
servicing some really busy CICS regions and batch flows.  Other LPARs
are seeing it too, but not as badly.

We typically had CPU usages of about 10 to 11% for the week.  Looking at
the last two months with average runs of 7,000 minutes, the ADABAS
region averaged a use of 750 CPU minutes.

Now in one run over a few days, it was 36%.  A 2,700 run minutes used
just under 1,000 minutes of CPU time.

As the batch jobs are running longer and online users report slower
turnaround, I'm concerned.

Has anyone else who is using ADABAS seen anything like this if they have
done this upgrade?

We are working with SAG, the vendor, and, as luck would have it, I have
a great resource from my good friends at CA part time for a few weeks
looking at our set up here from a performance point of view.  

This LAPR was "under control" until the upgrade went in.  Now I may have
to focus the CA resource's time here instead of some other places.

Setup is z/OS 1.4, running a z900-1C5.

Peter Duffy
Consultant, Operations Support - Mainframe/Distributed/Network
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Re: Strobe Question...

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Re: Downloading so-called white papers may get you an unwanted marketing call

2005-06-16 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Scott, did you pay attention to last two checkboxes that are usualy at
IBM registration pages ? It is not enough not to check "send me other
materials" you have to check "please don't send". Maybe it is my
English, maybe something else but I don't understand it.

Marian

On 6/16/05, Scott Barry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A few weeks after going fishing for the non-existent z/OS Job Management
> white paper (the link was bad at the time I tried it but not until I
> completed the web form -- DD DUMMY on me!), I received an office phone call
> from someone, named Greg, saying they represented IBM and wanted to talk to
> me about IBM Internet EMAIL or something.  Well, he's not with IBM, he's
> with a marketing company called Colwell & Salmon Communications in Albany,
> NY, and it's likely the he and/or his co-workers are bottom-fishing for
> marketing leads.  After two phone-tags, he started off our conversation by
> asking if I'd liked the z/OS Job Management white paper.  Busted!
> 
> Finally, I chose to wait several days, called back, and then let his
> supervisor know that the unsolicited and deceptive marketing call and this
> type of marketing technique is most undesirable.  In the end, I believe that
> the way he started off the call constituted a "prior relationship" so he may
> have circumvented the national "Do Not Call" list rules.  Oh, well.
> 
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Re: Top Secret TIMELOCK value

2005-06-16 Thread Schramm, Rob
Much thanks for your response Tony.

I have to admit to being a bit disheartened.  We have been having
problems with response time with the TSS db in the CF .. but support
never even suggested looking at the TIMELOCK or changing it.

What we have noticed is that the system that is not local to the CF (if
you are using internal CFs) converts about 2/3 of the messages to asynch
.. .. but the system that is local to the CF does 100% synch.  Curiously
enough the system that converts to asynch performs much better than the
TSS that is located on the system that has a local CF.

|-|   |-|
| |   | |
|sys1 |   |sys2 |
|-|   |-|
| cf  |   | |
|-|   |-|

In this drawing, sys2's TSS performs better than the one on sys1 due to
IBM's synch-to-asynch conversion that happens.

I am in the process of separating the databases to produce better
responding systems.. since there was no offered way to steady the
performance.

I will take the suggestion of the TIMELOCK and work with it.

-Rob




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Re: Emulating SELTAPE=NEXT on z/OS.

2005-06-16 Thread Rugen, Len
I don't have it any more, but if you have MIM and something like CA-OPS,
I had a trick...

MIM has tape "preference" numbers, the bigger the number, the greater
preference is given to the drive.  

@V xxx,PREFERENCE=999 is the command.  

At each mount, I set PREFERENCE down by 1 for the drive.  When it got to
0, I set it back to 999. 

Now we have 3490-C22's, one ESCON per controller for 2 drives.  ESCON
can pretty much keep 2 drives busy w/o bottleneck.  

You could also set fixed preference values for the first drive in each
string, then -1 for the nth drive per string, to balance I/O without the
script.  

For 2 strings, like this

DEVNO 60x= 500 499 498 497
DEVNO 62x= 500 499 498 497  

The mounts should then occur in the order 600, 620, 601, 621, etc. 

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Re: Emulating SELTAPE=NEXT on z/OS.

2005-06-16 Thread Richard Pinion
While this isn't what you asked for, I accomplished this by creating esoterics 
(or is that generics, I can't remember which is which)  that were specific to 
each 3490E CHPID/CU, i.e. TAPE1, TAPE2, TAPEx.

i.e. FDR full volume dump job 

//TAPE1 DD ... UNIT=TAPE1...
//TAPE2 DD ...UNIT=TAPE2...

If no one has code to do this, maybe this approach would be acceptable??? 

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/16/05 01:54PM >>>
I asked IBM about this on an ETR. They recommended looking that the
IEFTASSI code in SAMPLIB. I really need to emulate SELTAPE=NEXT due to
political pressure. I.e. management is now convinced that a least part
of our batch processes could run faster if z/OS would spread the tape
I/O out better. And they may well be correct. We have 32 3490E Escon
attached tape drives. This is four (4) banks of eight (8) drives. Each
bank has its own dedicated set of two Escon CHPs.

Anybody have any code that they could share that would get these people
off my back?


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Emulating SELTAPE=NEXT on z/OS.

2005-06-16 Thread McKown, John
I asked IBM about this on an ETR. They recommended looking that the
IEFTASSI code in SAMPLIB. I really need to emulate SELTAPE=NEXT due to
political pressure. I.e. management is now convinced that a least part
of our batch processes could run faster if z/OS would spread the tape
I/O out better. And they may well be correct. We have 32 3490E Escon
attached tape drives. This is four (4) banks of eight (8) drives. Each
bank has its own dedicated set of two Escon CHPs.

Anybody have any code that they could share that would get these people
off my back?


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Downloading so-called white papers may get you an unwanted marketing call

2005-06-16 Thread Scott Barry
A few weeks after going fishing for the non-existent z/OS Job Management
white paper (the link was bad at the time I tried it but not until I
completed the web form -- DD DUMMY on me!), I received an office phone call
from someone, named Greg, saying they represented IBM and wanted to talk to
me about IBM Internet EMAIL or something.  Well, he's not with IBM, he's
with a marketing company called Colwell & Salmon Communications in Albany,
NY, and it's likely the he and/or his co-workers are bottom-fishing for
marketing leads.  After two phone-tags, he started off our conversation by
asking if I'd liked the z/OS Job Management white paper.  Busted!

Finally, I chose to wait several days, called back, and then let his
supervisor know that the unsolicited and deceptive marketing call and this
type of marketing technique is most undesirable.  In the end, I believe that
the way he started off the call constituted a "prior relationship" so he may
have circumvented the national "Do Not Call" list rules.  Oh, well.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: SMS monitor and report

2005-06-16 Thread Raymond Noal
Wang,

Have you checked into using the Data Set option on ISMF? There are several
parameters you can specify as to how ISMF will generate a data set report
for you.

Hope this helps.

HITACHI 
 DATA SYSTEMS

Raymond E. Noal
Lab Manager, San Diego Facility
Office: (858) 537 - 3268
Cell:   (858) 248 - 1172


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Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 1:31 AM
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Subject: SMS monitor and report

Hi all,

  We are trying to Implement a SMS project, we need to monitor and report
some important statistics and feature of SMS,we list some items:
1. report listing of dataset unreference for n
days
2. report listing of datasets with multiple
extents
3. report listing of datasets with high allocations (with multiple volume
allocations)
4. report listing of very active datasets (high
IO)
5. report listing of allocated datasets with zero
usage
6. report listing of critical storage groups
usage
7. report listing of all dasd volumes usages (list top 10)
8. list vtoc usage of volumes(list top 10)

   Can someone who have experience to give me some advicesto supply the
list?

Thanks !

WangRong

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Axel Miller
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you say...
> Axel Miller wrote:
> 
> >It is possible to sync local time with an NTP server. We took the source 
> >code from www.ntp.org and modified it to issue a SET CLOCK=... via 
> >SVC34.
> >Once a week we synchronize local time on our MP3000 with an atomic 
> >clock. Works fine.
> >  
> >
> 
> Is this code something you can share?
> 
> 

Sure.
I did so in the past.
Please contact me offline.

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Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.

2005-06-16 Thread Perryman, Brian
About four years ago we needed to upgrade our Multiprise 2003 disk from it's 
72Gb (!) of on-board disk. IBM quoted us nearly 20,000UKP to double the total 
capacity.

We found a used equipment broker and got a used 420Gb RVA for 12k, which they 
agreed to part-exchange our MP2003 internal disk for, so no money changed hands 
apart from for the engineer's on-site time.

Despite the obvious benefits, I had one heck of a job getting it by the 
accounts department, who could not see past their self-imposed five-year 
write-down of the equipment which was then only two years old. They would 
rather have paid the upgrade cost than write off un-written down equipment from 
their books. We got it through in the end, of course, but only after some very 
long and protracted arguments.
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Re: GETHOSTNAME error

2005-06-16 Thread Kok, Howi
PFS - Physical File System

Check the BPXPRMxx member in your PARMLIB to see if you have FILESYSTYPE
TYPE(INET) and NETWORK DOMAINNAME(AF_INET) statement coded for the
socket file system activation.

You may find exactly what PFS is missing from the SYSLOG, and then code
the appropriate FILESYSTYPE statement to a BPXPRMyy member and activate
it using the  SETOMVS RESET=(xx) command.  You still need to add the
FILESYSTYPE statement to the BPXPRMxx member referenced by OMVS parm in
the IEASYSxx member.

Read "z/OS UNIX Systems Services Planning" guide for more information.

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Re: IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread Eric Chevalier
Doesn't this purchase now give IBM *four* VTAM session manager offerings?

  * InterSession (from Isogon)
  * SuperSession (from Candle)
  * IBM Session Manager for z/OS (rebranded Macro4 Tubes)
  * NetView Access Services

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Re: DR and JES2 Spool/Checkpoint and SRDF/Replicate

2005-06-16 Thread Patrick Lyon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:24:37 -0400, Porowski, Ken <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>We are setting up replicated DASD at our DR site and determining what
volumes to replicate (we use EMC SRDF).  Intent is close to real time
replication for application data for recovery to the point of failure
rather than scheduled point in time.  One item that concerns us is activity
on JES spool and Checkpoint.  It would be nice (maybe required) to have all
the reports etc. generated during the day to be available in this setup.
We do have a report distribution package (Mobius View:Direct) that stores
reports on DASD that would be replicated but there exists the possibility
of reports on spool that haven't been processed by our RDS.
>
>Does anyone out there currently replicate spool/checkpoint or is the
activity prohibitive?
>
>Ken Porowski

Ken - we use SRDF for our DR purposes also.  We do replicate our
spool/checkpoint volumes and in our expirence we have not had any
problems.  We also use View Direct for report storing.

Basically, it is what it is.  You get what was on the spool right at the
first split.  We haven't had a problem bringing up JES with a warm start
either.

But remember in an actual disaster, who knows where in the process it may
be?  It could die before the full cycle of replicated data, and possibly a
RESTORE from your BCV's to your R2's may be needed prior to trying to IPL
your DR system.  But that is another subject.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me offline.

Regards,
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Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Arnett
Actually it was an RVA.  They were attempting to offload the customer 
data from the ADCD base system.  The base MP 3000 P30 only has about 24 
DASD volumes, of which the z/OS ADCD chews up around 16.


R.S. wrote:


SArnett wrote:

I helped a shop install one of these fully loaded back in October.  
The price of the box was about $ 3,500 USD.  Installed with an 
additional new ESCON card in the MP3000, holes cut in the wall 
between the two rooms, etc. was $ 5,000 USD.  This was significantly 
less than the $ 10K that one vendor quoted for the upgrade in the 
MP3000 36GB disk drives, which IBM still has listed for $ 1,500 USD 
each.



$5000 is probable price for fully equipped HDS 7700C aka Comparex 
Tetragon 2000. Much more powerful machine: 4GB of cache, up to 1,4TB, 
PPRC, a lot of ESCON channels.


The HDS-marked boxes are usually imported from the U.S. 

Ramac RVA's (still better than Ramac II) are even cheaper.



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Re: DR and JES2 Spool/Checkpoint and SRDF/Replicate

2005-06-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
Does anyone out there currently replicate spool/checkpoint or is the activity 
prohibitive?
...

Very. Especially synchronous.

We did it a few years ago.
It is equivalent to adding another (very) busy system into the MAS-Plex.

We finally came down to two options:

1. Put the Primary into a CF.
But, that would require a CheckPoint ReBuild Dialogue at the recovery site.

2. Only back up the Secondary.
Performance goes back to normal.
The secondary could be up to a 1/2-second behind.
This also requires a ReBuild.

The second option was more feasible, escecially since you had to
do the rebuild in either case.

This was on a 5 LPAR 2800 MIPS (whatever those are (8-{]} ).
The sum of PEND + USING was equal to 100% on each LPAR.
25-ish I/Os per second per image.

This means that the MAS with disk checkpointing was maxed out.
If they (I'm no longer there) ever have to add an image to the MAS,
they'd have to go to CF checkpointing.

So, the busier the system, larger the burdon if you duplex the checkpoint.
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Re: BCS catalog as input file

2005-06-16 Thread Mark Thomen
"Perryman, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...

> Thanks to all who responded, on and offlist.
>
> By far and away the majority opinion was to use the Catalog Search
Interface and the examples of that in SYS1.SAMPLIB. So that's what I'm
doing.
>
> Thanks again all.

The REXX CLIST IGGCSIRX in SYS1.SAMPLIB will extract data set names and
volume serials.

You can modify as needed for the data set types you're interested in.

Thanks,
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Catalog/IDCAMS/VSAM Development

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Tim Hare
I think the issues are less with the actual initial setting of the clock, 
and more with the constant adjustment of the clock that being an SNTP 
client implies.  Some could always be wondering if their clock might be 
adjust backward by some small amount, but enough to make a database update 
log entry occur in the wrong sequence, thus invalidating rollback 
processes.  This could, possibly, be alleviated somewhat by doing 
adjustments once per day, and preventing updates from happening during the 
adjustment period?

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Re: White Paper: Optimizing Telnet 3270, SNA and TCP/IP on z/OS

2005-06-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
After several tries over the past six months, I decided this IBM z/OS 
"white paper" campaign seems more like a sales lead registration scam 
than a source of legitimate information. (How did they get my e-mail 
address in the first place. Harvesting IBM-Main??)


I've set my Spam filters to send them straight to my Trash folder.

Michael S Hines wrote:


Or a different paper than the one advertised.

I clicked on the  "Strategies for Exploiting TN3270" White Paper, did the sign 
up thing
(it comes up with the wrong info and I have to update it), 
And received "IBM Communications Controller Migration Guide (Communications Controller for
Linux on zSeries Update)" Redbook 


"Interesting..."

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Greg Smith

Paul Gilmartin wrote:


There is __no__ way to update the TOD clock other than via an ETR.

   


That z/OS can function as an NTP server, but not as an NTP client
is arrogant, perceived by non-mainframe-partisans as "radically
immature".  Not everyone can be emperor.

That said, what are the practical considerations?

I know some of the IBMers will cringe at this, but the clock can be set 
programmatically.
For example, consider the `operator prompt' line in the clockxx member.  
This causes
message iea888a to be issued during ipl where `Resetting GMT time causes 
the TOD
clock to be reset.'  Manual also says the message is issued by 
ieavrtod.  Looking at this
module you can see that it does indeed issue the SCK (b204) 
instruction.  There are
considerations, such as getting the TOD clock synced on all CPUs, and if 
the clock is fast,
you should probably spin for the appropriate interval instead of setting 
the TOD clock into

the past.

Greg Smith

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Re: SMS monitor and report

2005-06-16 Thread Bill Fairchild
 
In a message dated 6/16/2005 3:31:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

We are  trying to Implement a SMS project, we need to monitor and report
some  important statistics and feature of SMS,we list some items:
1. report  listing of dataset unreference for n
days



Some other characteristics of note:  data sets that are unmovable,  striped, 
empty, or have small blocksizes, where "small" is  subjectively interpreted.  
Less than 4K is a good start on defining  small.
 
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Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.

2005-06-16 Thread R.S.

SArnett wrote:

I helped a shop install one of these fully loaded back in October.  The 
price of the box was about $ 3,500 USD.  Installed with an additional 
new ESCON card in the MP3000, holes cut in the wall between the two 
rooms, etc. was $ 5,000 USD.  This was significantly less than the $ 10K 
that one vendor quoted for the upgrade in the MP3000 36GB disk drives, 
which IBM still has listed for $ 1,500 USD each.


$5000 is probable price for fully equipped HDS 7700C aka Comparex 
Tetragon 2000. Much more powerful machine: 4GB of cache, up to 1,4TB, 
PPRC, a lot of ESCON channels.


The HDS-marked boxes are usually imported from the U.S. 

Ramac RVA's (still better than Ramac II) are even cheaper.

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DR and JES2 Spool/Checkpoint and SRDF/Replicate

2005-06-16 Thread Porowski, Ken
We are setting up replicated DASD at our DR site and determining what volumes 
to replicate (we use EMC SRDF).  Intent is close to real time replication for 
application data for recovery to the point of failure rather than scheduled 
point in time.  One item that concerns us is activity on JES spool and 
Checkpoint.  It would be nice (maybe required) to have all the reports etc. 
generated during the day to be available in this setup.  We do have a report 
distribution package (Mobius View:Direct) that stores reports on DASD that 
would be replicated but there exists the possibility of reports on spool that 
haven't been processed by our RDS.  

Does anyone out there currently replicate spool/checkpoint or is the activity 
prohibitive?

Ken Porowski
AVP Systems Software
CIT Group 
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White Paper: Optimizing Telnet 3270, SNA and TCP/IP on z/OS

2005-06-16 Thread Michael S Hines
Or a different paper than the one advertised.

I clicked on the  "Strategies for Exploiting TN3270" White Paper, did the sign 
up thing
(it comes up with the wrong info and I have to update it), 
And received "IBM Communications Controller Migration Guide (Communications 
Controller for
Linux on zSeries Update)" Redbook 

"Interesting..."

Mike Hines
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Re: z/OS UNIX in a legacy world ( was: USS in a "legacy" world.)

2005-06-16 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Steve,

The application works well.  Every now and then we have to reset something
in the PC, but it usually works fine.

Yes, I've posted several times that our datacenter is closing.  All of our
applications are being converted to SAP/R, which will run on our sister
company's site in Pennsylvania.  I'm in Milwaukee.  We are basically
merging our data onto their box.

Eric

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:38:07 -0600, Steve Comstock
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Eric Bielefeld wrote:
>> Steve,
>>
>> We run one application under z/OS UNIX called Topcall.  It's a CICS
>> applications that routes transactions through UNIX, and then to a PC,
>> which, which automatically faxes the data.  I know I configured it 4 or
>> 5 years ago, and had to reinstall it when I installed z/OS 1.2.
>>
>> Eric Bielefeld
>> P&H Mining Equipment
>> 414-671-7849
>
>Ah, good. Thanks. Is it working OK?
>
>I seem to recall you saying your company was moving off the
>mainframe. Is my recollection correct?
>
>Kind regards,
>
>-Steve Comstock
>
>
>>
>> Steve Comstock wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Is there anyone out there running a mission critical
>>> application under z/OS UNIX? or even a modest real
>>> application? Anyone looking at doing this?
>>>
>>> Silence.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> -Steve Comstock
>>> The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
>>> http://www.trainersfriend.com

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Edward E. Jaffe

Axel Miller wrote:

It is possible to sync local time with an NTP server. We took the source 
code from www.ntp.org and modified it to issue a SET CLOCK=... via 
SVC34.
Once a week we synchronize local time on our MP3000 with an atomic 
clock. Works fine.
 



Is this code something you can share?

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Re: Disk I/O tuning still possible?

2005-06-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
Have you checked SMF historical data? Have you noticed trends or patterns?
...
That's the issue.
The service provider has access to the SMF data; I don't.
I have to take the word of somebody
who has a vested interest in getting an upgrade first.
We may need it; I won't make a recommendation without evidence.

“In God we trust. All others bring data.”

...
You business is flat, but what about IT? No new users or applications? Make
sure that no train is coming.
...

I'm well aware of expected growth, but without access to SMF, I'm stymied.


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IBM to Acquire Isogon Corporation

2005-06-16 Thread Richards.Bob
ARMONK, N.Y. -- June 16, 2005 -- IBM today announced it has signed a definitive 
agreement to acquire Isogon Corporation, a privately held company based in New 
York, NY.  The acquisition is subject to customary regulatory approvals and is 
expected to close in the third quarter of 2005. Financial details were not 
disclosed. 
Isogon's operations will be integrated into IBM's Tivoli infrastructure 
management software business, which produced double-digit revenue growth in 
2004 and the first quarter of 2005. The acquisition builds upon the companies' 
existing relationship, which includes more than 200 customers worldwide. 
Isogon's technology will be available from IBM and its business partners. 
The acquisition taps into the growing demand for software that simplifies and 
automates the way companies manage software expenditures and usage. According 
to IDC, a global market intelligence and advisory firm for the information 
technology industry, overall spending on worldwide IT asset management will 
increase from $971 million in 2004, to $1.33 billion in 2009. (1) 
Isogon is a leading provider of technology that can automatically track 
inventory and measure usage of software running on mainframe computers. This 
complements IBM's Tivoli License Manager software, which provides similar 
functions for distributed systems using Windows, Linux, UNIX, and other 
platforms. With the acquisition, IBM will offer a total software asset 
management solution, enabling companies to gain a single, cross-platform view 
of software inventory, usage and licenses for their operating systems, 
middleware and packaged applications -- all through a simple, Web-browser 
interface. 
As a result, customers can better align software purchases for a variety of 
purposes, including mergers and acquisitions that can lead to duplicate 
software usage in certain departments, and disaster recovery efforts where 
destroyed assets must be instantly identified. It also helps address regulatory 
compliance issues with Sarbanes-Oxley by providing an annual account of IT 
assets and expenditures. 
The combination of Isogon and IBM technology also will help customers solve 
software licensing management problems, such as identifying growth patterns in 
software usage and tying that to contract terms. For example, if an online 
banking application is ramping up its usage of software resources, the bank can 
spot this well ahead of time, plan for it, and determine when they will 
approach a contract threshold that will require the purchase of more software. 
Isogon technology will play a key role in IBM's IT service management strategy, 
which is focused on automating and integrating IT processes throughout an 
enterprise. With IT service management, companies can manage IT processes 
across their organization the same way they manage business processes. 
"For businesses today, having information about software assets is crucial to 
making the right decisions," said Al Zollar, general manager, IBM Tivoli 
software. "The combination of Isogon and IBM software will provide an 
end-to-end solution that will enable customers to plan for the future by 
managing all the software inventory, contracts and costs associated with an IT 
infrastructure. In addition, this acquisition demonstrates IBM's continued 
commitment to investing in the zSeries platform, as more enterprises take 
advantage of mainframe innovations such as infrastructure simplification and 
business resiliency." 
(1)1 IDC Worldwide IT Asset Management Software 2005-2009 Forecast: Higher 
Growth on the Horizon (IDC # 33071), Frederick W. Broussard 

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Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.

2005-06-16 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 6/16/2005 9:40:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

that one  vendor quoted for the upgrade in the MP3000 36GB disk drives, 
which IBM  still has listed for $ 1,500 USD each.



>>
Think that's their entry level accounting number. Still charging
$1500 for 20Mb hardrives in 3174s! So in the great downsizing,
we scrapped a couple dozen 3174 but kept all the memory and
harddrives for the couple of remnant MCS. Also popped for a few
smart terminals with VGA output and the LCD panels. Looks pretty
spiffy and are easy to read. 

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Re: USS in a "legacy" world

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Don Ault said:

> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 07:54:41 -0400
> 
>  [ ... ]All we can do is go forward.  Identify requirements and
> work with the process.   Further discussions along this line are more
> appropriate to the MVS-OE forum.
> Kernel Don
> 
Of course, I remember the early days when "Kernel Don" was a regular
and valuable contributor to MVS-OE, and that you signed off with a
gentle message explaining the change in your responsibilities.  Are
you now again following MVS-OE?

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Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.

2005-06-16 Thread SArnett
I helped a shop install one of these fully loaded back in October.  The 
price of the box was about $ 3,500 USD.  Installed with an additional 
new ESCON card in the MP3000, holes cut in the wall between the two 
rooms, etc. was $ 5,000 USD.  This was significantly less than the $ 10K 
that one vendor quoted for the upgrade in the MP3000 36GB disk drives, 
which IBM still has listed for $ 1,500 USD each.


R.S. wrote:


Bruce Black wrote:
[...]


I hope you got a real good price [...]



It is worth less than cost of transportation in Poland. I know the 
company which had to pay for move it away.

In fact I don't know the cache size, but I believe it wasn't relevant 



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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:09:27 -0500
> 
> The TOD clock must only advance, never stay still or retreat. The local
> time can rumba back and forth all it wants without causing any problems
> to any __advanced__ software. IMS, DB2, and CICS/TS can all endure the
> LOCAL clock going backwards. It confuses the  out of the users,
> but who cares?
> 
Won't all these schemes to adjust only the LOCAL time leave the system
in a the TIME macro returns an incorrect value for GMT, and the
perceived difference between LOCAL and GMT differs from the canonical
value for your geographic location?  In particular, is the value
returned by the UNIX time() function likely to be incorrect?

Wouldn't it be better to adjust the Leap Second offset, rather than
the local time offset?  This would cause the TIME macro to return
correct and consistent values for both GMT and LOCAL time.  Does
anyone care about the offset between IAT and GMT, particularly since
IBM has defined the TOD clock to run 10 seconds behind IAT?

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Axel Miller
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you 
say...
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have been asked to look into some sort of automated way to sync a z/OS
> clock from Internet time servers.  Syncing either local time (offset) or
> the TOD clock (GMT) will be adequate.  We are z/OS 1.4, single image, no
> sysplex timer.
> 

It is possible to sync local time with an NTP server. We took the source 
code from www.ntp.org and modified it to issue a SET CLOCK=... via SVC34.
Once a week we synchronize local time on our MP3000 with an atomic 
clock. Works fine.

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GETHOSTNAME error

2005-06-16 Thread Daniel Cremieux
My DB2 colleague have a following problem , can you please help ?  :

At the start of the Distributed functions of DB2 , i get the message
03.12.41 STC15838  DSNL512I  _DB1Y DSNLILNI TCP/IP GETHOSTNAME FAILED  114
   114 WITH
   114RETURN CODE=112 AND REASON CODE=110A00B6
The Return code corresponds to EAGAIN (will try again)
The explanation for the reason code is :

The PFS is waiting to restart.
Action: If there is a WTOR prompt on the operator console, the PFS will be
restarted when the reply
is issued. Otherwise, the PFS will be restarted by its own procedures.
Close and re-open the socket
or file descriptor and retry the request again after the PFS is active.
This value may also be returned
if there is a configuration problem and the address space is not connected
to the proper PFS.
Do you have any answer for this ?  And what is PFS ?

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Re: ds8000/ds6000

2005-06-16 Thread Goforth, Mark
Make sure you have the latest level of microcode on the ds8000 also.
IBM has a bug in earlier levels where the box crashes after 49.7 days!
Apparently the result of a timer rolling over and not being handled
correctly and the internal processors going into a loop.  
The workaround and microcode fix is also somewhat pervasive.  The
workaround is to destage the cache and reboot the box.  A minimum 2 hour
outage.  The microcode upgrade is not concurrent and requires a 7 hour
outage if everything goes well.
And for more that IBM doesn't tell you, adding more channel interface
cards to the ds8000 is non-concurrent.  Only replacement is concurrent.
I'm sure there are more surprises in store for us.

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IMS Transaction called by 2 different Mid-Tiers.

2005-06-16 Thread Denis Molloy
Has anyone had experience of calling a single IMS Transaction from 2
seperate Mid-Tier platforms.

E.G, Client thru MQ to IMS & Client thru SNA to IMS

Does it work ?
Are there any issues with it ?

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Axel Miller
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, you 
say...
> Hi folks,
> 
> I have been asked to look into some sort of automated way to sync a z/OS
> clock from Internet time servers.  Syncing either local time (offset) or
> the TOD clock (GMT) will be adequate.  We are z/OS 1.4, single image, no
> sysplex timer.
> 

It is possible to sync local time with an NTP server. We took the source 
code from www.ntp.org and modified it to issue a SET CLOCK=... via 
SVC34.
Once a week we synchronize local time on our MP3000 with an atomic 
clock. Works fine.

Axel.

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Re: ds8000/ds6000

2005-06-16 Thread Salah Balboul
Thanks Frank.

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Re: ds8000/ds6000

2005-06-16 Thread Frank Krueger
hi

ESS is 2105 .
DS8000 is 2107.
DS6000 is 1750 .
No chance in OS390 2.10 for DS6000.
Only as model 2105 for DS8000 - max. 16 LCU"s .

Support for 2107 starts with zOS 1.4.

Frank Krueger

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Subject: ds8000/ds6000



Can both DS8000 and DS6000 be considered D/T2105?

Or is DS8000 D/T2107 and DS6000 D/T2105?

Trying to see if OS/390 V2r10 will work with DS8000 on the z990 machine.

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server?

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 14:23:40 -0500
> 
> If doing a periodic "T CLOCK=hh.mm.ss" is sufficient, then I'd cheat.
> I'd have a PC which is running a TN3270E emulator. This emulator would
> connect to z/OS as a console (Visara, 2074, ICC, or SMCS console). Have
> this PC sync its clock via the Internet. Have this PC run a script
> periodically which issues the "T CLOCK=hh.mm.ss".
> 
> If you don't want a PC with a console, use a PC that somehow does the
> same thing. But you will need a PC somehow telling something on z/OS to
> issue the above command.
> 
> There is __no__ way to update the TOD clock other than via an ETR.
> 
That z/OS can function as an NTP server, but not as an NTP client
is arrogant, perceived by non-mainframe-partisans as "radically
immature".  Not everyone can be emperor.

That said, what are the practical considerations?  What margin of
inconsistency is tolerable?  If all systems can be synched to an
atomic time standard, by whatever technique, within half that
margin, you have satisfied your requirement.  If z/OS can not be
so synched, then I'll consider the z/OS or z/Series design deficient
for your purpose.  Likewise, of your non-mainframe systems can
not be so synched, they should be considered deficient.  (I'll
ignore any putative requirement to sync all systems to a single
standard that deviates from IAT.)

The ETR is, AFAIK, a PS/2 running OS/2.  It has long mystified me
that that PS/2 can use as a time reference WWV time signals, either
by dialup or by shortwave, or a serial connection that spoofs the
WWV protocol, but not GPS nor NTP.  Why  isn't there an NTP client
for the ETR.

The ETR can be directed to adjust the TOD clock gradually, monotonically,
by operator command.  Does the ETR support a remote console?
if so, that remote console ought to be replaceable by an emulator
which converts the output of NTP protocol to ETR commands, which
would meet the requirement.  The NTP client and console emulator
could run on any suitable hardware, perhaps even the mainframe
itself.

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ds8000/ds6000

2005-06-16 Thread Salah Balboul
Can both DS8000 and DS6000 be considered D/T2105?

Or is DS8000 D/T2107 and DS6000 D/T2105?

Trying to see if OS/390 V2r10 will work with DS8000 on the z990 machine.

Thanks

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Re: Disk I/O tuning still possible?

2005-06-16 Thread Robert Hamilton
On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 00:00:00 GMT, Ted MacNEIL
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Of course, we're going to be charged.
>It wouldn't be an issue otherwise.
>
>As I said in my original post(s), I want to see the evidence.
>Otherwise, don't talk to me about it.
>
>

I assume we are talking about ESCON. According to my experience 65%-70% is
rather high. You should be able to notice some delays. However, it depends
on your environment.

If the consultant had access to SMF data, he could know something that you
don't. He doesn't have to give you all options. The upgrade is probably his
best option.

Have you checked SMF historical data? Have you noticed trends or patterns?
You business is flat, but what about IT? No new users or applications? Make
sure that no train is coming.

Regards,
Robert

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Re: z/OS UNIX in a legacy world ( was: USS in a "legacy" world.)

2005-06-16 Thread Steve Comstock

Eric Bielefeld wrote:

Steve,

We run one application under z/OS UNIX called Topcall.  It's a CICS 
applications that routes transactions through UNIX, and then to a PC, 
which, which automatically faxes the data.  I know I configured it 4 or 
5 years ago, and had to reinstall it when I installed z/OS 1.2.


Eric Bielefeld
P&H Mining Equipment
414-671-7849


Ah, good. Thanks. Is it working OK?

I seem to recall you saying your company was moving off the
mainframe. Is my recollection correct?

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock




Steve Comstock wrote:




Is there anyone out there running a mission critical
application under z/OS UNIX? or even a modest real
application? Anyone looking at doing this?

Silence.

Kind regards,

-Steve Comstock
The Trainer's Friend, Inc.
http://www.trainersfriend.com



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Re: Strobe Question...

2005-06-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
...
So, STROBE tells me that my program BLHA consumes CPU-Time before the 
first statement ?!?!?!?!?   Eeeeh, what?
...

I would hope you do!
How do you think programme initiation works without consuming CPU?

-teD
(The secret to success is sincerity.
If you can fake that,
you've got it made!)

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Strobe Question...

2005-06-16 Thread Michael Knigge

All,


today I did my first STROBE-Profile (applause) and came accross 
something strange:


MODULE  STARTING INTERVAL  CPU TIME PERCENT   CUMULATIVE PERCENT
NAMELOCATION   LENGTH  SOLO TOTAL   SOLO TOTAL

BLAH0023EE  2  34.48 34.48  34.48 34.48
BLAH0023EA  2  18.46 18.46  52.94 52.94
BLAH0023F2  2  13.79 13.79  66.73 66.73
BLAH0023E6  2  11.76 11.76  78.49 78.49
...


So... maybe this is somehow an idiot's question but If I compile my 
Mdoule "BLAH" (COBOL) and look into Listing, the first Instruction (a 
PERFORM) begins at location 3004..


So, STROBE tells me that my program BLHA consumes CPU-Time before the 
first statement ?!?!?!?!?   Eeeeh, what?


Maybe I'm just to stupid to understand STROBE-Profiles ;-(

If it helps, the COBOL-Program is CALLed from another COBOL-Program, 
which is CALLED by an ASM-Prog that was ATTACHed as a Subtask.




Thank you for any ideas,
  Michael

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Re: Sync A z/OS Clock To An SNTP Time Server? - possible solution?

2005-06-16 Thread Tim Hare
Look into Ken Clapp's package... first saw this at SHARE in around 2001... 
 z/OS of course ships SNTP now, but what I'm recommending you look into is 
the PC-based time source he included (ets1.exe).   I've extracted the 
relevant part of the readme file below. You can find this at:

http://members.aol.com/kenclapp/sntp/sntp.htm

Or, from the CBT tape file 501 

http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT501.zip

If I remember the pitch, the serial port of the PC connected to where the 
sysplex timer would connect.

We have not (yet) used this... if anyone has, or if you do and you get it 
working, posting the results here would be nice.

 snip 


4) What if...
  we're too cheap to buy an external time source
   or we need to synchronize OS/390 to some other NTP/SNTP server ?

You should try ets1.exe, it requires a PC (166+) running win/nt and
a NTP/SNTP client. It will use the time on the PC and emulates your
choice of time source protocols. The PC this runs on must be
dedicated to this purpose though.

I personally favor the Netclock/2 protocol.

I hope I am NOT going to be sued by Austron, Netclock or Truetime.  My
emulator cannot come close to the accuracy their hardware clocks
provide, so it's no real threat.  My overall accuracy is around
.007 seconds which is quite reasonable for our purposes.

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Re: Tape drives in "twilight zone"

2005-06-16 Thread Chase, John
Apologies for "replying" to myself

> -Original Message-
>   The "door to the twilight zone" is apparently closed:

Or maybe not

> ===
> We all ranges of tape units defined as auto switchable, and 
> within these ranges, some are only defined as auto switchable 
> between PROD1 and PROD2.
>  
> Yesterday, there were problems with tape unit 0166.  To clear 
> the problem, the drive was varied offline, reset, and then 
> the range (0164-0167) was varied online using the ROUTE 
> TAPESYS command (which does it on all systems).
>  
> BUT...0164-0167 are not defined as auto switchable on one of 
> the systems.  Since they were varied online to that system, 
> it "owned" the tape drives and PROD1/PROD2 could not get at 
> them as auto switchable devices. ...
> ===

If the third system "owned" that subset of the tape drives, why were they
shown AFH on that system, too?

-jc-

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Re: 3705

2005-06-16 Thread Paul Hanrahan
The field engineer took care of the fire and smoke. Turns out they
parked the heads on the drive to move the equipment but didn?t take the
breaks back off when they ipl'd.  I recommended a thermal detection
mechanism but the suggestion was turned down because they had too few of
the older drives in the field and no longer were using a break
mechanism.

Recovered significant portions of the data from a seven year old back up
of the system using a  down level release of DDR.

Paul Hanrahan

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...and

Paul Hanrahan wrote:

>I had a guy call me when I was working the VM queue and tell me his 
>DASD was on fire. I asked him if he'd called me or the fire department 
>first.  - Paul Hanrahan
>
>  
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Re: Tape drives in "twilight zone"

2005-06-16 Thread Chase, John
Someday I'll learn to read the whole backlog of internal email before
posting a "problem" (I was offsite all day yesterday).  The "door to the
twilight zone" is apparently closed:

===
I believe I found the problem with the tape drives...
 
We all ranges of tape units defined as auto switchable, and within these
ranges, some are only defined as auto switchable between PROD1 and PROD2.
 
Yesterday, there were problems with tape unit 0166.  To clear the problem,
the drive was varied offline, reset, and then the range (0164-0167) was
varied online using the ROUTE TAPESYS command (which does it on all
systems).
 
BUT...0164-0167 are not defined as auto switchable on one of the systems.
Since they were varied online to that system, it "owned" the tape drives and
PROD1/PROD2 could not get at them as auto switchable devices.
 
Since tape usage is sporadic on the third system anyway, I will define all
available tapes on it as autoswitchable so that PROD1 and PROD2 can grab
them as needed.
===

Maybe somebody else can avoid this

-jc-

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Re: Multi-Volume File Limits?

2005-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
Steve (et al) -  Thats for the input.  We've bumped the volume limit up to
10 for now, which should solve the few space abends we've had recently.
One reason we thought of not to increase it further is that we do not want
a run-away process to be able to extent to more than 10 volumes.  We have
had that happen.   And we try to run our SMS pools downwards of 50%
utilization, so extenting to 10 volumes would be a large file, for us
anyway.

Thanks again.

>
> Generally, there's no particular reason not to increase the number of
>ADDVOLs that SRS is allowed to do. I know of a number of shops that set it
>to 59, which is the MVS limit. The only consideration might be something
>like an application which formats, say, a VSAM RRDS, and depends upon an
>out-of-space return code to know when to stop formatting. Otherwise, it's
>not unreasonable to set it to 59. (Setting the SMS data class DVC value to
>59 isn't such a good idea, though, as the SMS add-volume code, unlike SRS,
>will actually use 59 slots in the TIOT at allocation time, so it may be
>possible to run into TIOT-size issues if DVC is used for a lot of
datasets).
>


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Re: BCS catalog as input file

2005-06-16 Thread Perryman, Brian
Thanks to all who responded, on and offlist.

By far and away the majority opinion was to use the Catalog Search Interface 
and the examples of that in SYS1.SAMPLIB. So that's what I'm doing.

Thanks again all.

Brian

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Tape drives in "twilight zone"

2005-06-16 Thread Chase, John
Hi, All,

A subset of our tape drives went "elsewhere" yesterday.  Here's what I saw
in the problem ticket:

"D U,,AUTOSWITCH,,40
 
The display on all systems showed that 0164-0167 were AFH ("Allocated
Foreign Host").  Since it showed AFH on all systems, I just figured they got
hung up some way.
 
I varied the drives offline to all systems, then varied them online to PROD1
and PROD2 and they took off."

I would like to know if anybody has any ideas where we sould look, and what
we should dump and with which component to open a PMR, if it happens again.
Environment is z/OS 1.4 and 1.5, parallel sysplex, GRS star, ATS active, G5
(Amdahl) iron, (mostly) StorageTek tape drives.

TIA,

-jc-

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Re: Ramac II 9394 Cache size.

2005-06-16 Thread R.S.

Bruce Black wrote:
[...]

I hope you got a real good price [...]


It is worth less than cost of transportation in Poland. I know the 
company which had to pay for move it away.

In fact I don't know the cache size, but I believe it wasn't relevant 

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Re: SMS monitor and report

2005-06-16 Thread Richards.Bob
The easiest?  Get FDREPORT on a trial from Innovation Data Processing. That 
information comes canned in their health check reports. A variety of other 
tools from IBM and other vendors can also provide the information.

Bob 

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Subject:SMS monitor and report

Hi all,

  We are trying to Implement a SMS project, we need to monitor and report
some important statistics and feature of SMS,we list some items:
1. report listing of dataset unreference for n
days
2. report listing of datasets with multiple
extents
3. report listing of datasets with high allocations (with multiple volume
allocations)
4. report listing of very active datasets (high
IO)
5. report listing of allocated datasets with zero
usage
6. report listing of critical storage groups
usage
7. report listing of all dasd volumes usages (list top 10)
8. list vtoc usage of volumes(list top 10)

   Can someone who have experience to give me some advicesto supply the
list?

Thanks !

WangRong

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How to free latch in file system?

2005-06-16 Thread Yolanda Vivar
Hi to everybody.

Last week we had the following problem in our installation: the OMVS
system was locked because there was a latch contention not resolved.  The
contentions for the latch were increasing until we decided to IPL the
system.
The owner of the latch was the OMVS itself so there was no way to cancel
it (RESTART of OMVS means for us an IPL):

LATCH SET NAME:  SYS.BPX.A000.FSLIT.FILESYS.LSN
CREATOR JOBNAME: OMVS  CREATOR ASID: 000D
  LATCH NUMBER:  2
REQUESTOR  ASID  EXC/SHROWN/WAIT
OMVS   000D  EXCLUSIVE  OWN
OMVS   000D  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
OMVS   000D  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
T751631R   017E  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
T97123K0160  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
T971230007A  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
T9712140326  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
T97121J0099  EXCLUSIVE  WAIT
  LATCH NUMBER:  23
REQUESTOR  ASID  EXC/SHROWN/WAIT
OMVS   000D  EXCLUSIVE  OWN
RSIDA121   0175  SHARED WAIT

We have found 2 PTF that addressed to this problem: APAR OA11041 and APAR
OA11574. The problem came when a user that was issuing an ?ls ?l? command
was cancelled. The user was cancelled but the latch was not freed.
Even though the PTF should solve this specific problem, we have some
questions about latches and how can we free them in order to solve this
kind of situations:

- Is there a way to free the latch when is the OMVS the owner and the
waiting process (there was not possible to go into the ishell or the OMVS),
- How can we know which are LATCH NUMBER 2 and 23? Which file/file system?

Has anybody had the same problem?

Thank you in advance.
Regards,

Yolanda Vivar.

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SYSVTOC contention

2005-06-16 Thread R.S.

Colleague of mine noticed the following problem:
Batch jobs are delayed because of SYSVTOC contention.
several jobs are waiting for exclusive use of SYSVTOC volser resource, 
the resource is kept by another job.
Sometimes the jobs are waiting for the same volser or there are 2 queues 
to two volumes.

The information above comes from ISRDDN ENQ monitor.

The job which is keeping (not waiting) the resource shows no activity (0 
I/O, 0% CPU in SDSF).


DASD are shared, z/OS 1.4 in parallel sysplex. CPU consumption is low.

Q:
What is the reason of that ?
What further investigation should be done ?
Any clue ?

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SMS monitor and report

2005-06-16 Thread Wang Rong
Hi all,

  We are trying to Implement a SMS project, we need to monitor and report
some important statistics and feature of SMS,we list some items:
1. report listing of dataset unreference for n
days
2. report listing of datasets with multiple
extents
3. report listing of datasets with high allocations (with multiple volume
allocations)
4. report listing of very active datasets (high
IO)
5. report listing of allocated datasets with zero
usage
6. report listing of critical storage groups
usage
7. report listing of all dasd volumes usages (list top 10)
8. list vtoc usage of volumes(list top 10)

   Can someone who have experience to give me some advicesto supply the
list?

Thanks !

WangRong

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Re: BCS catalog as input file

2005-06-16 Thread DOMINGUEZ MARTIN, ANGEL LUIS
We did it (access directly to BCS) in the early 1990's but now our
recomendation is CATALOG SEARCH INTERFACE.

There are a lot of posts about CSI and samples (REXX) in
SYS1.SAMPLIB.

At end, we did an user program to obtain a lot of data about all
files catalogued in master or user catalog. The most important thing is that
the CPU and resources used are exigous by Catalog Search Interface in
comparation with LISTCAT for example (minutes versus hours in elapsed time).

angel luis domínguez
bbva - spain

De: Perryman, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Hi folks
?
I need to identify all datasets that are cataloged as out on ML1.
?
I tried to put one of the catalogs through ICETOOL but I got an open error
before I even got started.
?
Is there some way to do this? It's a one-off task and I don't have much time
to spend on it so I need something quick and simple to get going (hence
trying to use ICETOOL).
?
For info, it's a test LPAR that's had a copy of the production catalogs
copied in. The HSM BCDS and MCDS do not match, so I can't just run DCOLLECT
on those.
?
Thanks?
?
Brian
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Re: BCS catalog as input file

2005-06-16 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
"Perryman, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Hi folks
>  
> I need to identify all datasets that are cataloged as out on ML1.
>  
> I tried to put one of the catalogs through ICETOOL but I got an open error
before I even got started.
>  
> Is there some way to do this? It's a one-off task and I don't have much
time to spend on it so I need something quick and simple to get going (hence
trying to use ICETOOL).
>  
> For info, it's a test LPAR that's had a copy of the production catalogs
copied in. The HSM BCDS and MCDS do not match, so I can't just run DCOLLECT
on those.
>  
> Thanks 
>  
> Brian

How about an IDCAMS LISTC and some SAS or REXX to process the output? Not
the most efficient, but probably the fastest way.

Kees.


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BCS catalog as input file

2005-06-16 Thread Perryman, Brian
Hi folks
 
I need to identify all datasets that are cataloged as out on ML1.
 
I tried to put one of the catalogs through ICETOOL but I got an open error 
before I even got started.
 
Is there some way to do this? It's a one-off task and I don't have much time to 
spend on it so I need something quick and simple to get going (hence trying to 
use ICETOOL).
 
For info, it's a test LPAR that's had a copy of the production catalogs copied 
in. The HSM BCDS and MCDS do not match, so I can't just run DCOLLECT on those.
 
Thanks 
 
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Re: Dynamic sysout count over 99999

2005-06-16 Thread Dan

From: "Miklos Szigetvari"

Hi

If someone maybe knows, what is happening after the Dynamic SYSOUT
count has reached 9
(i.e after SYS9)


It can't ever happen Miklos.
With a TIOT size set to the max of 64K the most you can allocate per
step is 3273 DD statements.

Dan



Dan,

I think a tiot slot can be reused...

Ed


True, but only 3273 can exist at one time.

As for the allocation & freeing, the numbers would also wrap from 9 to 
1 skipping over any that are still allocated.  Leonard mentioned the 
upper limit of 32767.   I haven't seen it go that high so he may be correct.

It sounds very similar to the GDS numbers wrapping.

Dan 


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