Re: Dead Beef
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:00:14 -0400, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always assumed that SPZAP did RDJFCB, and when it noticed that you specified FORMAT4.DSCB it did an OPENJ for X'040404...' (which is hard to specify in JCL). absolutely correct. X'0404' is the dataset name of the VTOC, so opening that sets the DEB extents to the extents of the VTOC. An authorized program can change the DEB extents to access other tracks on the volume, but AMASPZAP does not so so. Fullscreen zap in file 134 of the CBT tape allows you access to the whole volume, with appropriate permission. Sam did a write-up in file 120. I love the DEADBEEF idea; if you ever do write such IPL text please send it to the CBT tape. DC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GLOBALV and REXX - functioning code ?
Hi! I have a source (ASM) for a GLOBALV function in rexx by A S Rudd. Unfortunately it have intermittent S0C4's when used. Searched for, but not found, any references to the source or a mail address to A S Rudd. Does anyone have an updated version of the source or another working GLOBALV like function ? TIA Thomas Berg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ISPF option 3.4 CATALOG multilevel alias
I actually did open an ETR with the ISPF folks at IBM about a year ago on this. You are correct, I was told it was an issue with ISPF 3.4 and indeed, WAD. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: rexx question
logStatus = sysdsn('CGENC_LOG')
(doublequote+singlequote+doublequote at both sides)
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Ämne: rexx question
How do I code the following where CGENC_LOG is a variable so that the userid is
not added as the hlq of the dataset if tso profile
prefix(userid) is specified.
logStatus = sysdsn(CGENC_LOG)
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Re: rexx question
Thanks Thomas, that fixed it. Not writing a lot of rexx, the whole
single, double quotes thing catches me out constantly.
Thanks again.
Jim McAlpine
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logStatus = sysdsn('CGENC_LOG')
(doublequote+singlequote+doublequote at both sides)
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Ämne: rexx question
How do I code the following where CGENC_LOG is a variable so that the userid
is not added as the hlq of the dataset if tso profile
prefix(userid) is specified.
logStatus = sysdsn(CGENC_LOG)
Jim McAlpine
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Re: ADABAS and HDS TrueCopy
Mike, That's an interesting position for SAG to take. That would also mean that ADABAS does not support restart after a power outage, MVS crash, or Database crash. A Database that does not support Disk Based Remote Copy or Disk based Copies (Shadowimage, FlashCopy, Timefinder) or even a system crash is quite a surprise. Methinks it is a Database to avoid... Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Pratt Sent: Friday, 26 August 2005 11:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ADABAS and HDS TrueCopy Hi Sarel, How are you maintaining ADABAS database consistency using SRDF? The reason I ask is that according to SAG recovery from a successful RESTART is not a recommended recovery strategy - in fact it is not a supported method of database recovery in the primary environment. What this this means of course is that restart based on replicated data (SRDF or PPRC) is also not supported? I guess my question is are you taking special steps to ensure consistency, or are you simply taking the position that it works, that the liklihood of index/data inconsistency is highly unlikely and therefore an acceptable risk? Mike. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx question
logStatus = sysdsn(CGENC_LOG) logStatus = sysdsn(”'”CGENC_LOG”'”) -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx question
In a recent note, Jim McAlpine said:
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:11:49 +0100
Thanks Thomas, that fixed it. Not writing a lot of rexx, the whole
single, double quotes thing catches me out constantly.
Or, a convention you may be familiar with in Assembler or JCL:
logStatus = sysdsn(CGENC_LOG)
... should work equally well. Think:
PARM=, or
DC CL1
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logStatus = sysdsn('CGENC_LOG')
(doublequote+singlequote+doublequote at both sides)
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Re: Could anyone help me?
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/25/2005 at 08:56 AM, Mark S. Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You probably need to carefully examine the band to generate the image but it's not impossible. Well, I suppose that with a mirror it wouldn't be too bad, but that's not how I'd do it. I'd define a UCS image to let me print the contents of the print band and print a test image using that UCS definition. Then I'd examine the paper rather than the band. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ADABAS and HDS TrueCopy
SAG make it quite clear that there is no problem recovering an Adabas database using these technologies, as long as the user is aware of the architecture of the Adabas database and sets everything up correctly. Quoting from a SAG Technical Tip: As long as the mirrored data is a consistent real time shadow of primary data there is no problem to: 1) Start an Adabas nucleus using mirrored ASSO, DATA, and WORK after a disk crash on primary - Adabas will perform the autorestart. 2) Repair primary data after the hardware is fixed by copying the mirrored data (completely: ASSO, DATA and WORK). -Original Message- From: Ron and Jenny Hawkins That's an interesting position for SAG to take. That would also mean that ADABAS does not support restart after a power outage, MVS crash, or Database crash. A Database that does not support Disk Based Remote Copy or Disk based Copies (Shadowimage, FlashCopy, Timefinder) or even a system crash is quite a surprise. Methinks it is a Database to avoid... Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Pratt Sent: Friday, 26 August 2005 11:07 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ADABAS and HDS TrueCopy Hi Sarel, How are you maintaining ADABAS database consistency using SRDF? The reason I ask is that according to SAG recovery from a successful RESTART is not a recommended recovery strategy - in fact it is not a supported method of database recovery in the primary environment. What this this means of course is that restart based on replicated data (SRDF or PPRC) is also not supported? I guess my question is are you taking special steps to ensure consistency, or are you simply taking the position that it works, that the liklihood of index/data inconsistency is highly unlikely and therefore an acceptable risk? Mike. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Newsgroups
Well, whadda' ya' know! I'm almost back to the same level of newsgroup participation as before AOL dropped it. But one problem remains. I've subscribed to several ibm newsgroups at news.software.ibm.com; I can read all the postings and reply; I can initiate posts. All is well. Then I also went to 204.153.244.171 as someone suggested to sign up for comp.lang.cobol; Well, I can read the postings, but I cannot reply nor initiate posts. There is obviously some kind of configuration error here, but I don't see it. Any suggestions? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GLOBALV and REXX - functioning code ?
Hi, Idon't know GLOBALV, but 'REXX global variables' in the 'My programs' section at www.wjensen.com might help you. Willy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ftp connection closed by remote host
Absolutely no messages anywhere and we already have TCPIP.SEZALOAD added to the program class definitions as well as TCPIP.SEZALINK. Jim McAlpine On 8/25/05, Jim Ladouceur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also ran into this and had to add TCPIP.SEZALOAD to the Program class in RACF. Jim LaDouceur -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ftp connection closed by remote host Eventually got round to configuring z/OS 1.4 and I'm currently testing tcpip. When I try to ftp from ms ftp client I'm getting the above message as sonn as the connection is made. I don't even get to enter my userid. Any one seen this before. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ftp connection closed by remote host
In a message dated 8/26/2005 10:57:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely no messages anywhere and we already have TCPIP.SEZALOAD added to the program class definitions as well as TCPIP.SEZALINK. Is the FTP daemon running? Everybody have GID/UID's? Would never have gotten it to fly without ws_ftp on the workstation. It used to be a freebie at _www.ipswitch.com_ (http://www.ipswitch.com) , but they've gotten mercenary in their old age. Think it's ws_ftp home or something. Sam Knutson mentioned one he'd found and liked but don't remember the name. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newsgroups
On 26-Aug-2005, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I also went to 204.153.244.171 as someone suggested to sign up for comp.lang.cobol; Well, I can read the postings, but I cannot reply nor initiate posts. There is obviously some kind of configuration error here, but I don't see it. Any suggestions? I am replying to both the IBM newsgroup/listserver and to comp.lang.cobol. Check comp.lang.cobol for replies. I asked my provider to include comp.lang.cobol with the newsgroups it carries back when, and it did what I asked, and I've had it ever since. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newsgroups
Howard Brazee wrote: On 26-Aug-2005, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I also went to 204.153.244.171 as someone suggested to sign up for comp.lang.cobol; Well, I can read the postings, but I cannot reply nor initiate posts. There is obviously some kind of configuration error here, but I don't see it. Any suggestions? I am replying to both the IBM newsgroup/listserver and to comp.lang.cobol. Check comp.lang.cobol for replies. Well, yes: I see your postings there; but when I reply I always get Sending of message failed. It's like I'm a lurker because I have no other option. I asked my provider to include comp.lang.cobol with the newsgroups it carries back when, and it did what I asked, and I've had it ever since. Well, I just connected to this 204.153.244.171; doesn't seem to be a way to have a conversation with them, though. Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ftp connection closed by remote host
I don't even get to enter the userid so I don't suppose it's got anything to do with gids/uids. Jim McAlpine On 8/26/05, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/26/2005 10:57:01 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Absolutely no messages anywhere and we already have TCPIP.SEZALOAD added to the program class definitions as well as TCPIP.SEZALINK. Is the FTP daemon running? Everybody have GID/UID's? Would never have gotten it to fly without ws_ftp on the workstation. It used to be a freebie at _www.ipswitch.com_ (http://www.ipswitch.com) , but they've gotten mercenary in their old age. Think it's ws_ftp home or something. Sam Knutson mentioned one he'd found and liked but don't remember the name. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Slashdot article
Anyone who is familiar with Slashdot may want to weigh in on the mainframe in this just-posted article: http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl? sid=05/08/26/1420218tid=146tid=218tid=137 I apologize for any wrap. Aaron -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newsgroups
On Aug 26, 2005, at 11:20 AM, Steve Comstock wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: On 26-Aug-2005, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then I also went to 204.153.244.171 as someone suggested to sign up for comp.lang.cobol; Well, I can read the postings, but I cannot reply nor initiate posts. There is obviously some kind of configuration error here, but I don't see it. Any suggestions? I am replying to both the IBM newsgroup/listserver and to comp.lang.cobol. Check comp.lang.cobol for replies. Well, yes: I see your postings there; but when I reply I always get Sending of message failed. It's like I'm a lurker because I have no other option. I asked my provider to include comp.lang.cobol with the newsgroups it carries back when, and it did what I asked, and I've had it ever since. Well, I just connected to this 204.153.244.171; doesn't seem to be a way to have a conversation with them, though. Steve, I am *GUESSING* here... but some groups are moderated and you may have to find the owner of the list to approve any posts. ED -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newsgroups
On 26-Aug-2005, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am *GUESSING* here... but some groups are moderated and you may have to find the owner of the list to approve any posts. I didn't need to do that to post to comp.lang.cobol. I'd check his provider. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: GLOBALV and REXX - functioning code ?
Yes, I'm just testing Your function ! :) Btw, I'm trying to expand the availible length of varnames to rexx standard of 250, but if I try with a length higher than 152 i get a S0C4. (Övnamel setc '120' -- Övnamel setc '152' is OK, but not anything bigger than that. Using Your fine trace I can see that the pointer VCBAcsrp get a null value when Övnamel 152.) Thomas Berg -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] För Willy Jensen Skickat: den 26 augusti 2005 17:28 Till: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Ämne: Re: GLOBALV and REXX - functioning code ? Hi, Idon't know GLOBALV, but 'REXX global variables' in the 'My programs' section at www.wjensen.com might help you. Willy -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ftp connection closed by remote host
Jim, Do you have SYSLOGD daemon set up? FTP messages are logged in SYSLOGD. If you dont have one set, please check the information APARII12021. Another couple of things to check is - APF authorization of libraries. - Check libraries EUVF.* in LPA, Linklist and APF - Try FTP from locally (i.e. TSO Session) - Is your TSO session set for PROMPT? - Do you have VTAM applid's protected? if so look for FTPD appl. There are few other tips available on IP Diagnosis guide. Thanks.. hope this helps. Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/26 8:33 AM Absolutely no messages anywhere and we already have TCPIP.SEZALOAD added to the program class definitions as well as TCPIP.SEZALINK. Jim McAlpine On 8/25/05, Jim Ladouceur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We also ran into this and had to add TCPIP.SEZALOAD to the Program class in RACF. Jim LaDouceur -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 11:37 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: ftp connection closed by remote host Eventually got round to configuring z/OS 1.4 and I'm currently testing tcpip. When I try to ftp from ms ftp client I'm getting the above message as sonn as the connection is made. I don't even get to enter my userid. Any one seen this before. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx question
a convention you may be familiar with in Assembler or JCL What is going on may be clearer (or may not - a matter of style) if you code something like: litQuote = ' logStatus = sysdsn(litQuote||CGENC_LOG||litQuote) Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: rexx question In a recent note, Jim McAlpine said: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:11:49 +0100 Thanks Thomas, that fixed it. Not writing a lot of rexx, the whole single, double quotes thing catches me out constantly. Or, a convention you may be familiar with in Assembler or JCL: logStatus = sysdsn(CGENC_LOG) ... should work equally well. Think: -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STIMERM EXIT question
Thank you. A natural follow-on question is this: what about STIMERM's that have been created with an ATTACH from other than the initiator TCB? More exactly, a sub-task of your current running task? Thank you. Paul -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Most effective BUFNO?
If you were reading from one QSAM DASD DCB and writing to another QSAM DASD DCB -- let's say 20,000 133-byte records blocked half track -- would you expect to see a noticeable performance improvement (elapsed time and/or CPU time) from specifying a BUFNO greater than 5? What number might you specify to optimize elapsed and/or CPU time without being ridiculous? Any related considerations? Thanks, Charles Mills -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Enterprise PL/I SYSDEFSD SYSXMLSD characteristics?
For completeness and in case anyone else may be interested, I receive a reply from an IBMer at Santa Teresa (and since he did not post publicly I will assume he does not want public credit) that said: For SYSDEFSD, the dataset should have lrecl=128 and F,FB,V or VB recfm For SYSXMLSD, the dataset should have lrecl-16383 and recfm=vb He also indicated that IBM would update the docs. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2005 2:09 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Enterprise PL/I SYSDEFSD SYSXMLSD characteristics? Does anyone know the characteristics (lrecl and recfm) of the SYSDEFSD and SYSXMLSD datasets that may be produced by the Enterprise PL/I compiler? The documentation is apparently lacking. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SRDF question
Don't know what version of HC you are running? Newer versions of HC require that ResourcePak Base (EMCSCF) be uo and running. Ali wrote: Hi all, I installed SRDF Host component into OS/390 2.7 ,but when I issue SRDF commands such as #SQ ADC or #SQ CNFG and some other commands which need cuu I got the following error msg: EMCPC01I SAI RETURN R15=0008 RC= RS= Is anybody out there have such an experience to tell me what probably I have missed? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Best Regards, Ali -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: STIMERM EXIT question
In a recent note, Paul Schuster said: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:25:04 -0500 Thank you. A natural follow-on question is this: what about STIMERM's that have been created with an ATTACH from other than the initiator TCB? More exactly, a sub-task of your current running task? If the parent task terminates without DETACHing the child task, doesn't the child ABEND asynchronously? Hmmm. What if the child sets an ESTAE and attempts to recover? -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: rexx question
logStatus = sysdsn(litQuote||CGENC_LOG||litQuote) My style is usually somewhere in between: logStatus = sysdsn(”'” || CGENC_LOG || “'”) (PS: sorry for the (almost) empty post. The PASTE and SEND buttons are one after another on a BlackBerry) -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ftp connection closed by remote host
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:33:04 +0100, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Absolutely no messages anywhere and we already have TCPIP.SEZALOAD added to the program class definitions as well as TCPIP.SEZALINK. ... You might want to temporarily add a degnug all to your FTPDATA. That will generate a lot of debugging messages. No way to know if they will until you see them. I'm not sure where they go - probably an HFS syslog file of some sort. Pat O'Keefe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Slashdot article
Comment noted. Weighed in thus : I am a z/OS Systems Programmer myself and am in my late 20's. I cannot help but laugh at the ignorance of many of the posters on this forum! Do they not realise that ESCON/EMIF was the first SAN! Do they not see that all the tools/concepts IBM is retrofitting to it's UNIX machines have been developed and implemented on the mainframe for years e.g. Workload Manager, Systems Automation, LPARS and dynamic LPAR management down to less than a single CPU! We run 60 Oracle systems, 8 DB2 Subsystems (incorporating hundered of databases), 5 Datacom Database Subsystems, 200 TSO users (online), 2000 CICS users (online call centre staff), 150 Roscoe Users (online), 6500 batch jobs a day, Web Applications, programs written in C, COBOL, JAVA, and have 5 MQSeries Queue Managers on 7 LPARS with 9 Terabytes of SHARED DASD. We do this on a machine with 5 CPU's!! Now come on, that is real value. The thing never crashes! Oh and by the way, we operate in a parallel SYSPLEX (you know the clustering technology that actually works!!). The tools at my disposal to diagnose problems e.g Omegamon, Strobe, IPCS, SDSF, Sysview, would make a Unix, Windows admin wet their pants! I love to hear Unix people talk about old hat technology, green screens and the like. They then Telnet into their machine using VT100 and start employing 10 fingers at a time to operate VI. Now come on, they would kill for ISPF. I have to work in both Mainframe and Unix environments and I am sorry, but to me Unix seems so backwards from a management perspective. I am sure that it will catch up (IBM seem to be turning AIX and p/Series into a mainframe), bring it on! I can't wait to leverage my outdated mainframe skills on this new hardware! Meanwhile I will just keep taking the money and making sure the users keep taking me and the mainframe for granted. Nuff said. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Newsgroups
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:51:19 -0600, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Then I also went to 204.153.244.171 as someone suggested to sign up for comp.lang.cobol; Well, I can read the postings, but I cannot reply nor initiate posts. There is obviously some kind of configuration error here, but I don't see it. How did you come to get that IP address? 204.153.244.171 is part of a block of addresses that have been assigned to Mithral Communications Design Inc. That specific address corresponds to host171.octanews.net. Octanews (http://www.octanews.com/) appears to be a commercial news supplier. Offhand, I'd say that you're being prohibited from posting messages because you probably don't have an account with that firm. You might want to give them a call and see if they can help you out. Eric -- Eric Chevalier E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.tulsagrammer.com Is that call really worth your child's life? HANG UP AND DRIVE! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Looking for ISRROUTE command
Anyone know what library this is in. Error we get in ISPF is COMMAND ISRROUTE NOT FOUND. No error message, nothing else. Just curious -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
He's got it down (now) to a pretty simple formula: the maximum number of SAM buffers (BUFNO=) should be MIN ( 30 , 240K/BLKSIZE). ... 1996. Still a little old, but much closer to reality. -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
Jim Garner (IBM SE) did an orange book 20+ years ago on a similar vein. (this was still 165 and 155 days). My memory is dim but I think he had similar findings. ... 165/155 -- what are those? Ed, you're losing it. 20 years ago was XA. I started with a 3033, 24 years ago. (They say the mind is the second thing to go; I'll be diddly dad burned if I can remember what the first thing was!) -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
In a recent note, Ted MacNEIL said: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:00:00 GMT He's got it down (now) to a pretty simple formula: the maximum number of SAM buffers (BUFNO=) should be MIN ( 30 , 240K/BLKSIZE). ... 1996. Still a little old, but much closer to reality. And, I am suspicious of any formula with apparently arbitrary and fairly large constants. Why 30? Does it depend on some queuing parameter built in to z/OS? What if that changes in a future release? Why 240K? Does that depend on device geometry? Or in some memory management parameter built in to z/OS? What if those change with new hardware, or with the next z/OS release? Why is the nuclear force 137 times stronger than the electromagnetic force? I confess I haven't read Barry. (Nor Feynman.) -- gil -- StorageTek INFORMATION made POWERFUL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
On Aug 25, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: What number might you specify to optimize elapsed and/or CPU time without being ridiculous? ... Mike Coombs (formerly of IBM Canada the original authour of the 'Storage Management Institute) used to advise that anything making the total buffers for an individual file over 200K was LDR. Of course, this was on ES/9000 processors, prior to ESA 5. -teD Ted, Jim Garner (IBM SE) did an orange book 20+ years ago on a similar vein. (this was still 165 and 155 days). My memory is dim but I think he had similar findings. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dead Beef
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/22/2005 at 03:26 PM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: IPL text works the same on MVS/SP 3.8. No; there is no MVS/SP 3.8 ;-) -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dead Beef
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/23/2005 at 11:53 AM, Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I am pretty sure that FORMAT4.DSCB only allows AMASPZAP to zap the VTOC. Entire volume, assuming that you are authorized. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
Why 240K? Why not. Enquiring minds want to know! The bottom line is: the bottom line is always changing! IOW, today's guideline is tomorrow's (outdated) rule of thumb (WAG). It just happens that 200-240K works, now. There are many magic numbers in IT. The question is: why do they change what to -teD In God we Trust! All others bring data! -- W. Edwards Deming -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
At the risk of injecting a serious note into this levity, the Barry URL that I cited earlier seems to imply to me that 240K and 30 are hard-coded into B/QSAM somewhere: Experiments with BUFNO for Sequential Access (BSAM,QSAM), including that rare experiment of RTFM (Reading The Fine Manual), discovered that unstriped SAM is limited to transfer of 240K bytes per I/O, and is also limited to a maximum of 30 buffers. Just thinking out loud here, it would seem that if BUFNO is truly limited to 30 by DFHSM or whomever, then there is no need to worry about that number. Compute whatever number your preferred algorithm computes, and then stuff it in DCBBUFNO. If it's over 30, xSAM will make it 30. Maybe. I searched the DFHSM shelf on 240K and got no hits. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 5:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Most effective BUFNO? Why 240K? Why not. Enquiring minds want to know! The bottom line is: the bottom line is always changing! IOW, today's guideline is tomorrow's (outdated) rule of thumb (WAG). It just happens that 200-240K works, now. There are many magic numbers in IT. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
On Aug 26, 2005, at 7:00 PM, Ted MacNEIL wrote: Jim Garner (IBM SE) did an orange book 20+ years ago on a similar vein. (this was still 165 and 155 days). My memory is dim but I think he had similar findings. ... 165/155 -- what are those? E the first 370 line... and I did say 20 + (PLUS) Ed, you're losing it. 20 years ago was XA. I started with a 3033, 24 years ago. (They say the mind is the second thing to go; I'll be diddly dad burned if I can remember what the first thing was!) -teD If you want I can contact the author and get a real date. But as you indicated old timings don't mean the same thing as they do on new(er) machines. There is always a cutoff as to the real benefit of and cost of doing I/O . The standalone numbers are almost never close to real life. And trying to do charge back is almost always a loosing battle. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
Wherever possible, convert to SMS, Extended and stripped formats. Use Systems Managed Buffering and worry about some other minutiae. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:17 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Most effective BUFNO? At the risk of injecting a serious note into this levity, the Barry URL that I cited earlier seems to imply to me that 240K and 30 are hard-coded into B/QSAM somewhere: Experiments with BUFNO for Sequential Access (BSAM,QSAM), including that rare experiment of RTFM (Reading The Fine Manual), discovered that unstriped SAM is limited to transfer of 240K bytes per I/O, and is also limited to a maximum of 30 buffers. Just thinking out loud here, it would seem that if BUFNO is truly limited to 30 by DFHSM or whomever, then there is no need to worry about that number. Compute whatever number your preferred algorithm computes, and then stuff it in DCBBUFNO. If it's over 30, xSAM will make it 30. Maybe. I searched the DFHSM shelf on 240K and got no hits. Charles -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any way to turn on FASTSRT without recompile?
IBM COBOL for OS/390 VM 2.1.2 Any way to zap the load module w/o recompile? TIA Larry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MULTIVOLUME FILES THRU SMS
Javier, Put a value in Dynamic Volume Count in the Dataclas construct. Bruce Estey -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of javier sotela Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 14:35 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: MULTIVOLUME FILES THRU SMS Hi Everyone: We are trying to use a disk pool using sms. The idea is assign a file to a storage group with 10 disks for example, and the sms deal with all the volumes to assign the space, according our space requerinment. The problem that we have is that normally sms assign the first extent, but if the file need more that one extent, and the disk is full the job cancel with b-37 error with insuficient disk space. Does anybody can help me hoew to deal with this problem and work with multi extends files in multi volumes TIA. Javier S. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
Charles, This is why in my earlier post I said that 16 works for half track blocking. 8x27998=223984 which means the chain length will be limited to 8 half track blocks. However MVS loves CPU/IO overlap, so we have another eight buffers that can be processed while the other eight are used for IO. I like Barry's formula, because it is not arbitrary - it is based on the limits of SAM-E. However I would recommend doubling his result. Ron Experiments with BUFNO for Sequential Access (BSAM,QSAM), including that rare experiment of RTFM (Reading The Fine Manual), discovered that unstriped SAM is limited to transfer of 240K bytes per I/O, and is also limited to a maximum of 30 buffers. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How Was Share?
The education you can receive is really excellant. The assembler class's are good, with both basic and new instructions and everything in between. The hands-on lab's for IPCS are also great. I would strongly recommend anyone that wants to learn more about IPCS should download the hands-on lab's; they have the dumps to go with the hand-outs available to download via ftp (but only for a couple of weeks). So, download the sessions from the SHARE web-site; then use the instructions to download the 13 dumps and walk through the exercises. Even experienced sysprogs might pick up a trick or two that they can use the next time they have to debug an SVC dump. And there were quite a few very well-attended REXX sessions as well. And these weren't even the new stuff from IBM sessions. One of the best education-weeks available, especially for the money spent. Of course the weather was great, and the location was wonderful (very nice convention center with hotels that are attached with walkways or through the shopping mall). All in all a very good SHARE. Russ Witt -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Bielefeld Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 3:06 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: How Was Share? So, now that it is Friday afternoon, and there aren't enough people left on IBM-Main (I assume their all at Share) to start a good Friday off topic discussion, I'll have to start one myself! So, how was Share? Any earth shattering news? Anything us peons who can't go should know? Eric Bielefeld PH Mining Equipment -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Most effective BUFNO?
In a message dated 8/26/2005 7:08:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jim Garner (IBM SE) did an orange book 20+ years ago on a similar vein. (this was still 165 and 155 days). My memory is dim but I think he had similar findings. ... 165/155 -- what are those? Ed, you're losing it. 20 years ago was XA. I started with a 3033, 24 years ago. Just because technology/processor X was the latest and greatest 20 years ago does not mean that there were not many shops still using X-2 at that time. I worked with a 3033/MVS in early 1978. Then a few months later worked with the U.S. government's trailing edge equipment -- S/360 models 40, 50, 65, et al., mostly running MVT (one even MFT) with 2314. And that was with the FAA, whose modern equipment was keeping commercial jets from bumping into each other in the air. Been there, worked with it then. Got the fun scars. Then saw XA climb up out of the primordial ooze in 1983. I recommended reading Merrill's 21-year-old paper not because of its technical currency but because of its methodology and continually asking the question is there yet one more variable I can tweek? And if so will it make things better or worse, and for whom? These questions are timeless in their application. Bill Fairchild -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Any way to turn on FASTSRT without recompile?
It doesn't appear so But, unless your Cobol source employs no input/output procedure(s), it won't buy you anything, anyway. Perhaps, you're well aware of this. But, I've only seen a hand full of Cobol Sorts that didn't use either an input or output procedure of some kind. Thanks, Gary Larry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM COBOL for OS/390 VM 2.1.2 Any way to zap the load module w/o recompile? TIA Larry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How Was Share?
- Original Message - From: Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:07 PM Subject: How Was Share? So, now that it is Friday afternoon, and there aren't enough people left on IBM-Main (I assume their all at Share) to start a good Friday off topic discussion, I'll have to start one myself! So, how was Share? Any earth shattering news? Anything us peons who can't go should know? Eric, This SHARE was the bombay! Like Ed Jaffe, I really felt the sense of community. It's amazing how close I feel to people I only see for a week every 6 months. After the hello's, it's like we see each other every day. How's the family? How's life? Does your job still suck? Are you still working for that a-hole? And then before we know it, the Bit Bucket finishes at 12 noon on Friday, and you're left with that empty feeling you always get when SHARE is over. I had the honor and privilege of being the last speaker at this SHARE, wrapping up my 6 minute topic at the end of the Bit Bucket. The audience response to my topic was overwhelming to me; they laughed at my jokes, and I began my next SHARE-based crusade (out with Dynamic ISPF, in with multiple logon). I had a fantastic time at this SHARE, and I'd like to thank all the folks who made that happen (you know who you are ;-) Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Any way to turn on FASTSRT without recompile?
Just to clarify, if you have an Output Procedure but no Input Procedure, FASTSRT *will* impact input I/O. The only time it has no impact is if you have BOTH an Input and Output procedure. FYI, I certainly (absolutely) would NOT recommend, it but you *might* be able to ZAP the load module based on the information at: http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr/BOOKS/igypg205/2.5.3.7.2 (it's for V2.2, but I think this section remains the same - except for new options - between releases). FYI, I assume that you are aware that- unless you are running under VM - IBM COBOL for OS/390 VM (V2.1) went out of service quite a while ago. (The currently supported product is Enterprise COBOL) Gary Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It doesn't appear so But, unless your Cobol source employs no input/output procedure(s), it won't buy you anything, anyway. Perhaps, you're well aware of this. But, I've only seen a hand full of Cobol Sorts that didn't use either an input or output procedure of some kind. Thanks, Gary Larry Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM COBOL for OS/390 VM 2.1.2 Any way to zap the load module w/o recompile? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
