Re: MD5 for z/OS?

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Paul Gilmartin said:

 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 00:22:31 -0600
 
 There's open source C at:
 
Linkname: sha
 URL: http://www.saddi.com/software/sha/
 
OK.  I can't read.  The OP asked about MD5 (which is somewhat
deprecated nowadays); I answered about SHA (which is somewhat
less deprecated, so far).  C source code for MD5 appears in
RFC 1321.

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Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
How about Mr. M???...x? The Silver Age Superman Adversary from the ?th 
Dimension

Mxyzptlk!
Mix-yez-pit-ill-ick.

Kill-tip-yex-imm.

(I even have a superman insignia tattoo on my right arm).


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Betr.: CTC connections for SYSPLEX

2006-07-25 Thread G. van Arnhem
Gadi,

You don't have to add 4 more ESCON channels. You can define additional 
control units (and devices) on the channels you are already using.
 
Gerrit van Arnhem.






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Hi,
 
We currently have two z890's. Each z890 has a production LPAR and a test 
LPAR. The production LPAR's are connected to one SYSPLEX and the TEST 
LPAR's to another.
 
We now have to add another production LPAR to one of the z890's and 
connect it to the production SYSPLEX.
 
The SYSPLEX is a base sysplex and the connections between the system are 
CTC's.
 
As I see it I have to use 4 more ESCON connections on the system where I 
add the LPAR, and two ESCON connections on the other system.
 
Is there any way to have an 'internal CTC' to connect the LPAR's that are 
on the same physical box?
 
TIA

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Re: Betr.: CTC connections for SYSPLEX

2006-07-25 Thread R.S.

G. van Arnhem wrote:

Gadi,

You don't have to add 4 more ESCON channels. You can define additional 
control units (and devices) on the channels you are already using.


No, it is not enough.

ESCON CTC requires different CHPID definitions at ends of connection:
CNC-CTC
Assuming you're on left machine, the second LPAR on it would require CTC 
to communicate to first LPAR:

CPC A   CPC B
LPAR1A  LPAR1B
LPAR2A

LPAR1A to LPAR1B
and
LPAR2A to LPAR1B

CNC  CTC

LPAR1A to LPAR2A
CTC---|
CNC---|
(the cable is a loop - connects two ports in the same machine)

It is possible to have one CNC chpid less on CPC A, but escon director 
is required.

Adding more LPARs to CPC A does not require more chpids.
Adding another LPAR(s) to CPC B does require more CHPIDs.

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Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread CAPRON Romain
Hello,

I'm currently working on a project where we have to dump on tape (3592
Jaguar 2) about 6To in 6 hours (~1To/h).
We are using FICON Express 2Go connected on a z/800 mainframe.
Does anyone know the block size of an ADRDSSU physical dump?
We are wondering if we need or not software like ExHPDM (STK Product)
that is able to dump on cartdrige with a 256K blocksize.
Some people are saying that speed limit on an Ficon channel depending on
the blocksize of the data that was carrying on.

Thanks a lot for your lights,

Rom.


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Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread R.S.

CAPRON Romain wrote:

Hello,

I'm currently working on a project where we have to dump on tape (3592
Jaguar 2) about 6To in 6 hours (~1To/h).
We are using FICON Express 2Go connected on a z/800 mainframe.
Does anyone know the block size of an ADRDSSU physical dump?
We are wondering if we need or not software like ExHPDM (STK Product)
that is able to dump on cartdrige with a 256K blocksize.
Some people are saying that speed limit on an Ficon channel depending on
the blocksize of the data that was carrying on.


Yes, Ficon throughput depends on blocksize. However I believe it won't 
be limiting factor. The real bottleneck would be your source media 
speed. It will be DASD, won't it ? DASD is much SLOWER then tape, when 
considering sustained sequential I/O's.


AFAIK ADRDSSU still uses 64kB blocks on tape. ExHPDM would help if 
single output will be created from several interlaced input streams. 
In that case several disk would work for single tape.

Similar effect can be observed when striped dataset are used.

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Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-25 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Misunderstood the intent and I don't work with international character 
sets.

My apologies.




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At 11:24 -0400 on 07/24/2006, Daniel A. McLaughlin wrote about Re: 
Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data:

Look to composers and authors.

Igor Stravinsky
DeBussy
Tchaikovsky

Etc.

There are some whose name have accented letters (unlike these).

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Re: OpenSSH installaion question - Setuid Failing

2006-07-25 Thread Ulrich Boche

Terry Pollard wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to get OpenSSH working under Z/OS 1.4 and I am getting an error
which I cannot seem to get around. It is saying it cannot permit a SETUID
command to create the unpriviledged user when my client connects to SSHD.

The Debug output: 
Connection from 192.168.0.9 port 1317   
debug1: Client protocol version 2.0; client software version PuTTY_Release_0.58 
debug1: no match: PuTTY_Release_0.58
debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_3.8.1p1
debug2: Network child is on pid 33620018
debug3: Current IBM Release level: 14   
debug3: preauth child monitor started   
debug3: mm_request_receive entering 
debug3: privsep user:group 600:66   
debug1: permanently_set_uid: 600/66 
setuid 600: EDC5139I Operation not permitted.message
  
debug1: do_cleanup  
debug1: do_cleanup  


I believe I have done all the necessary RACF things, and nothing I change
seems to have worked to get past this message. The EDC message in the manual
says little more than the text you see and nothing I can read about SETUID
seems to be helpful either.

The userid sshd is running under needs to be a superuser (UID=0) and, 
additionally, needs to have READ access to profile BPX.DAEMON in class 
FACILITY. You should also look into the SYSLOG (the console log, not the 
 log files written by syslogd) and check for RACF messages that 
indicate problems with a controlled program environment.

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Re: Help with some Acronyms Please

2006-07-25 Thread Ulrich Boche

Pete Zerger wrote:

I am an infrastructure engineer, raised on Active Directory, reading
IBM Redbooks to get some conceptual background. There are couple
acronyms I have not yet seen spelled out or defined that are causing me
some confusion...

What do the following stand for, and what are their function in
relation to RACF?

SDBM?
TDBM?

Any explanation or pointers to the appropriate redbook or other
document would be greatly appreciated.

SDBM is a specialized backend of the z/OS LDAP server. It provides LDAP 
access to the user and group profiles in the RACF database. It has a 
specialized schema which cannot be modified or added to.


TDBM is the DB2 backend of the z/OS LDAP server. It can take the same 
attributes and objectclasses as any other run-of-the-mill LDAP server.


If you have more questions, feel free to ask. Documentation could be 
called mediocre without being abusive, it consists of two handbooks:


SC24-5923 z/OS LDAP Server Administration and Use
SC24-5924 z/OS Security Server LDAP Client Programming

Both handbooks can be read on or downloaded from the IBM BookServer 
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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
 
  This used to work.  
 
 The usual question is ok, if it was working before then what 
 changed?

z/OS 1.5 preventive maintenance RSU0604, plus HIPERs and PEFIXes, were
applied.  Previous level was RSU0511.

 Do you see any other messages in the log?

None.

  However, program D00YAAI exists, lives in a library that is both 
  APF-authorized and concatenated in the //ISPLLIB concatenation, and
 has
  AC=1.  I can browse the load module, so I know it's there.
 
 Editorial comment, it should not be AC=1.

Vendor supplies it with AC=1.

 It just needs to 
 be in an authorized library. The presence of ANY unauthorized 
 library in a given concatenation renders that entire 
 concatenation unauthorized. I would look there first.

There are unauthorized libraries in the //ISPLLIB concatenation.  But if
it's an authorization issue, why does the reason code translate to
program not found (reason code 40 (x'28')) instead of something like
program not authorized  (reason code 56 (x'38'))?

-jc-

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Re: 64 bit operating systems

2006-07-25 Thread Scott Rowe
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 09:47:48 -0600, Leif Rundberget
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Yes and No, a system that can only access 4GB of virtual and real memory
is a 32-bit system, not 64-bit.  Just think back all the way to the
8-bit platforms, has the amount of memory that you can access ever
corresponded to the number of bits advertised by the platform?
Mainframes, YES.  Intel, no.

Where do you get the idea that the new AMD/Intel architecture can only
address 4GB of memory?  These are just as true 64-bit machines as 64-bit
mainframes are.

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Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
The IT staff at CS Stars, a Chicago-based independent insurance brokerage,
and at the State of New York, decided it was a smart idea to use a personal
computer to shuttle data between the State's system and the brokerage's.
Then the personal computer, housed in a secured facility (hah), went
missing.  AP has the story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14015598/

This incident has absolutely nothing to do with mainframes.

- - - - -
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Re: Help with some Acronyms Please

2006-07-25 Thread Hunkeler Peter (KIUB 34)
SDBM
I think the S stands for Security and as Ulrich mentioned
was meant as a pointer to RACF which is used as the DBM (Data 
Base Manager) in this case.

TDBM
Funny story if I remember it correctly:

First version of LDAP had a Relational Data Base Manager, i.e. 
DB2 on z/OS, as the general backend. Hence RDBM.

Next version, while still supporting the RDBM model, implemented
a new table design with the backend DBM (mainly for performance
reasons). A name had to be chosen for this new model. T was the 
next letter after R and S in the alphabet, both of which were
already in use by LDAP. So, the new model was given the name TDBM.

You had the choice of using either the RDBM or the TDBM model
of LDAP for its data base backend (both BD2 but different table
setup).

I don't know if RDBM is still supported with the current release
of LDPA on z/OS.


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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Andy Wood
 
 On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 16:32:45 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:
 
 Doesn't ISPF attach it's tasks using ISPLLIB as a TASKLIB?
 
 I think it does. However the message implied that D00YAAI was 
 an authorized program and as such it would be invoked by the 
 parallel TMP which would not have ISPLLIB in its TASKLIB. I 
 don't know what D00YAAI is, but 10 years ago I encountered a 
 similarly named Jobscan module, J00YAAI which had to be 
 listed in AUTHTSF.

D00YAAI is a Docu/Text module (same vendor as Jobscan), and is present
in both the AUTHPGM and AUTHTSR segments of IKJTSO00.  (But again, if it
were an authorization problem, why reason code 40 (program not found)
instead of 56 (program not authorized)?)

 If as stated there is no STEPLIB then I can only guess that 
 the module used to be located via linklist or in lpa, and 
 something changed in that regard.

No changes in that regard.  The Docu/Text load library is APF-authorized
but not linklisted, and not in the LPA.  It *IS* in a concatenation
(//ISPLLIB) that contains unauthorized libraries.

-jc-

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Re: CTC connections for SYSPLEX

2006-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

גדי בן אבי wrote:

We currently have two z890's. Each z890 has a production LPAR and a test LPAR. 
The production LPAR's are connected to one SYSPLEX and the TEST LPAR's to 
another.
 
We now have to add another production LPAR to one of the z890's and connect it to the production SYSPLEX.
 
The SYSPLEX is a base sysplex and the connections between the system are CTC's.
 
As I see it I have to use 4 more ESCON connections on the system where I add the LPAR, and two ESCON connections on the other system.
  


I take it you have no ESCON switch?

 
Is there any way to have an 'internal CTC' to connect the LPAR's that are on the same physical box?
  


No 'internal' CTCs exist unless you run under z/VM. You need one 
jumpered CNC/CTC for the wraparound function on any one machine. (That's 
two CHPIDs.) Each CHPID pair has 256 addresses you can play with. If you 
split up into groups of four, that gives you room for 64 LPAR 
connections. However, since you can run Communication Server (VTAM and 
TCPIP) and GRS traffic over XCF, you probably won't realistically need 
more than two addresses per LPAR connection. For redundancy, a second 
CTC/CNC pair is a good idea.


Regardless of whether on the same system or between systems, you need a 
good naming convention to keep things straight. IMHO, the following post 
from Skip Robinson is a must read: Once I changed my naming convention 
to match what he suggested, adding a new LPAR became easy.


http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0207L=ibm-mainP=R51155

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Robert Justice
Hmm, I bet someone might notice if they tried to take the mainframe out 
through the front door. 

No further comment needed. 

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CTC connections for SYSPLEX

2006-07-25 Thread Jim Wagner
Gadi,

We have 7 LPARs in a base sysplex (no coupling facility) on a single CEC. 
We use 4 ESCON CHPIDs to make this happen. The rest is just separate 
controllers with different control unit addresses. All works well. Sounds 
like you could do something very similar.

Jimmy

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert Justice
 
 Hmm, I bet someone might notice if they tried to take the 
 mainframe out through the front door. 

Somebody big enough to carry a mainframe probably wouldn't be
challenged.  :-)

-jc-

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread John P Kalinich
On July 25, 2006, -jc- wrote:

The Docu/Text load library is APF-authorized
but not linklisted, and not in the LPA.  It *IS* in a concatenation
(//ISPLLIB) that contains unauthorized libraries.

What happens if you TSOLIB the Docu/Text load library?

Regards,
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Computer Sciences Corp

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Walt Farrell

On 7/24/2006 4:27 PM, Craddock, Chris wrote:

However, program D00YAAI exists, lives in a library that is both
APF-authorized and concatenated in the //ISPLLIB concatenation, and
has AC=1.  I can browse the load module, so I know it's there.


Editorial comment, it should not be AC=1. It just needs to be in an
authorized library. The presence of ANY unauthorized library in a given
concatenation renders that entire concatenation unauthorized. I would
look there first.


It would need AC(1) in order for IKJEFTSR to invoke it APF-authorized.

Or do you base your editorial comment on knowing what D00YAAI does, and 
thus some knowledge that it should not, in fact, run authorized when 
invoked directly?


Walt Farrell, CISSP
z/OS Security Design, IBM

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Walt Farrell

On 7/25/2006 8:12 AM, Chase, John wrote:

There are unauthorized libraries in the //ISPLLIB concatenation.  But if
it's an authorization issue, why does the reason code translate to
program not found (reason code 40 (x'28')) instead of something like
program not authorized  (reason code 56 (x'38'))?


First, do you have D00YAAI listed in the AUTHTSF section of 
SYS1.PARMLIB(IKJTSOxx)?  If not, IKJEFTSR will run it (if found) but 
will simply run it unauthorized.


Next, as others have mentioned, IKJEFTSR will not find it in ISPLLIB. 
Actually, it may find it there, but only if you set the flags to 
indicate that you want to invoke the module in an un-isolated 
environment (i.e., not in the parallel TMP (isolated environment) where 
you would run authorized code).


In an isolated environment you are not running under ISPF, and thus not 
found would be the right return code.


If this worked before, then I believe you were (before) running it 
un-isolated, or you were finding it via a STEPLIB or TSOLIB rather than 
ISPLLIB.


Walt Farrell, CISSP
z/OS Security Design, IBM

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Rob Scott
John,

I do not believe that IKJEFTSR looks in ISPLLIB for a load module -
IKJEFTSR is a TSO service - not ISPF.

If the only copy of D00YAAI is in an ISPLLIB dataset, then IKJEFTSR is
not lying to you - it cannot find the load module using the normal
module search order.

Linklist or STEPLIB are the normal places for AUTHTSF modules - TSOLIB
will probably work as well.  


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Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:08:49 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I'm currently working on a project where we have to dump on tape (3592
 Jaguar 2) about 6To in 6 hours (~1To/h).
 We are using FICON Express 2Go connected on a z/800 mainframe.
 Does anyone know the block size of an ADRDSSU physical dump?
 We are wondering if we need or not software like ExHPDM (STK Product)
 that is able to dump on cartdrige with a 256K blocksize.
 Some people are saying that speed limit on an Ficon channel depending on
 the blocksize of the data that was carrying on.

Yes, Ficon throughput depends on blocksize. However I believe it won't
be limiting factor. The real bottleneck would be your source media
speed. It will be DASD, won't it ? DASD is much SLOWER then tape, when
considering sustained sequential I/O's.

AFAIK ADRDSSU still uses 64kB blocks on tape. ExHPDM would help if
single output will be created from several interlaced input streams.

I was told by someone at Sun/STK that ExHPDM doesn't buy you anything
with FICON attached tape. Since we still have ESCON attached host (MVS)
drives at this point, I haven't verified the statement.   What does
anyone else know about this?

Regards,

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
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 The IT staff at CS Stars, a Chicago-based independent insurance
brokerage,
 and at the State of New York, decided it was a smart idea to use a
personal
 computer to shuttle data between the State's system and the
brokerage's

Can't find anything, do you have a link?

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
 Kees,

It was in Timothy's original post, but here it is again.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14015598/



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 The IT staff at CS Stars, a Chicago-based independent insurance
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personal
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Can't find anything, do you have a link?

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Rex,

That is strange, I follow this group via the newsgroup and Timothy's
original post was exactly as I quoted it below, without the link. Could
it have been an attachement?

Kees.



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  Kees,
 
 It was in Timothy's original post, but here it is again.
 

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 Theft
 
 Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message

news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 om...
  
  
  
  
  
  The IT staff at CS Stars, a Chicago-based independent insurance
 brokerage,
  and at the State of New York, decided it was a smart idea to use a
 personal
  computer to shuttle data between the State's system and the
 brokerage's
 
 Can't find anything, do you have a link?
 
 Kees
 


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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:

Rex,

That is strange, I follow this group via the newsgroup and Timothy's
original post was exactly as I quoted it below, without the link. Could
it have been an attachement?
  


No. It was right in the message. See for yourself in the archive: 
http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0607L=ibm-mainP=R59859


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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott
 
 John,
 
 I do not believe that IKJEFTSR looks in ISPLLIB for a load 
 module - IKJEFTSR is a TSO service - not ISPF.
 
 If the only copy of D00YAAI is in an ISPLLIB dataset, then 
 IKJEFTSR is not lying to you - it cannot find the load module 
 using the normal module search order.

Since there seems to be a consensus here, I added the Docu/Text load
library to //STEPLIB of the logon proc  Now it works again.

**BUT**

I checked archived copies of our logon proc dating back to the original
installation of Docu/Text here, and its load library has NEVER been in
the //STEPLIB concatenation; only in //ISPLLIB.  And the only thing
that's changed since the Docu/Text installation is the maintenance level
of z/OS 1.5 that we're running.

Anyway, problem solved so thanks for all the ideas, etc.

-jc-

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HSM Tape Utilisation

2006-07-25 Thread Dave Cartwright
I would like to list the percent valid data on my HSM backup tapes.
Is there a way to do this directly without setting some percentage valid 
data then doing a RECYCLE REPORT?
Alternatively does anyone have any information about the format of the HSM 
OCDS dataset that I could process it to list my backup tapes?

Dave

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:38:29 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Since there seems to be a consensus here, I added the Docu/Text load
library to //STEPLIB of the logon proc  Now it works again.

**BUT**

I checked archived copies of our logon proc dating back to the original
installation of Docu/Text here, and its load library has NEVER been in
the //STEPLIB concatenation; only in //ISPLLIB.  And the only thing
that's changed since the Docu/Text installation is the maintenance level
of z/OS 1.5 that we're running.

Anyway, problem solved so thanks for all the ideas, etc.


Can we assume you don't have a sandbox that you can IPL with the old
level prior to maintenance and see if it is indeed the maintenance
that broke this?  I really doubt that it did, but I hate mysteries.
Could this module have been in a local lnklst lib before and perhaps
someone did some cleanup?

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Re: HSM Tape Utilisation

2006-07-25 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Is this what you had in mind?

LIST TTOC SELECT(BACKUP) ODS('$DOB.TTOC.BKP.JUL25A')

 

- DFSMSHSM CONTROL DATASET - TAPE VOLUME TTOC - LISTING - AT 09:29:27 ON
06/07/2
 

VOLSERUNITVOL  REUSE VALID   PCTVOLRACF  PREV
SUCC   
  NAMETYPE   CAPACITYBLKSVALID  STATUS   VOL
VOL
H7   L9840SPILL  03727500  03968498  100FULLNO   *NONE*
H8 
H8   L9840SPILL  03727500  01296444  035FULLNO   H7
*NONE* 
H9   L9840SPILL  03727500  03623648  098FULLNO   *NONE*
H00264 
H00014   L9840SPILL  03727500  02117609  057FULLNO   H00179
*NONE* 
H00015   L9840SPILL  03727500  03693285  099FULLNO   *NONE*
*NONE*  

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To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: HSM Tape Utilisation

I would like to list the percent valid data on my HSM backup tapes.
Is there a way to do this directly without setting some percentage valid
data then doing a RECYCLE REPORT?
Alternatively does anyone have any information about the format of the
HSM OCDS dataset that I could process it to list my backup tapes?

Dave

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Brian Peterson
Did you ever check the ISPF TSO Command Table to see if perhaps site 
modifications were accidentally regressed with your z/OS maintenance?  
Perhaps you used to have an entry for DocuText in this table, and now you 
don't.  From ISPF Planning and Customizing:

3.17  Customizing the ISPF TSO command table (ISPTCM)

The ISPF TSO command table (ISPTCM) describes the TSO commands that are 
invoked under ISPF. When a TSO command is issued, ISPF searches ISPTCM. If 
the command is found, it uses the information in the table to process the 
command.  If the command is not in ISPTCM, ISPF uses default values, which 
are in the table.

Brian

On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:38:29 -0500, Chase, John wrote:

Since there seems to be a consensus here, I added the Docu/Text load
library to //STEPLIB of the logon proc  Now it works again.

**BUT**

I checked archived copies of our logon proc dating back to the original
installation of Docu/Text here, and its load library has NEVER been in
the //STEPLIB concatenation; only in //ISPLLIB.  And the only thing
that's changed since the Docu/Text installation is the maintenance level
of z/OS 1.5 that we're running.

Anyway, problem solved so thanks for all the ideas, etc.

-jc-

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Re: Betr.: CTC connections for SYSPLEX

2006-07-25 Thread Williams, Donald
Hi Gadi,

I suggest that you read System z ESCON and FICON Channel-to-Channel
Reference, SB10-7034-04. It covers shared and unshared channels, and
various other configurations with ESCON director(s).

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/25/2006 8:01:23 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Somebody  big enough to carry a mainframe probably wouldn't be
challenged.   :-)





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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Kees,

Did you get the entire post or just the first part of it that you quoted
below?  That is bizarre because the link was in the middle of the post.

Rex 

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Subject: Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity
Theft

Rex,

That is strange, I follow this group via the newsgroup and Timothy's
original post was exactly as I quoted it below, without the link. Could
it have been an attachement?

Kees.



Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  Kees,
 
 It was in Timothy's original post, but here it is again.
 

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Behalf Of Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 8:24 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity

 Theft
 
 Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message

news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 om...
  
  
  
  
  
  The IT staff at CS Stars, a Chicago-based independent insurance
 brokerage,
  and at the State of New York, decided it was a smart idea to use a
 personal
  computer to shuttle data between the State's system and the
 brokerage's
 
 Can't find anything, do you have a link?
 
 Kees
 

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM
Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM wrote:
  Rex,
 
  That is strange, I follow this group via the newsgroup and Timothy's
  original post was exactly as I quoted it below, without the link.
Could
  it have been an attachement?

 
 No. It was right in the message. See for yourself in the archive: 
 http://bama.ua.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0607L=ibm-mainP=R59859
 
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Right, I see it. I only have the first 3 lines in the newsgroup,
probably because the period after and the brokerage's has wrapped to a
new line and a period on position 1 terminates the message. This causes
newsgroup reading problems every now and then.

Kees.


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Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread Bruce Black


We are using FICON Express 2Go connected on a z/800 mainframe.
Does anyone know the block size of an ADRDSSU physical dump?
We are wondering if we need or not software like ExHPDM (STK Product)
that is able to dump on cartdrige with a 256K blocksize.
Some people are saying that speed limit on an Ficon channel depending on
the blocksize of the data that was carrying on.

ADRDSSU uses a 64K blocksize.

Yes, the effective speed of FICON or ESCON is affected by the 
blocksize.  A smaller blocksize requires more CCWs and probably more 
I/Os to transfer the same amount of data, and there is an overhead per 
CCW.  I believe that the overhead is worse on ESCON than FICON but it is 
still there on FICON. 

However, the max data that can be sent in a single CCW is 64K-1.  To 
write larger blocks up to 256K you must use data chaining, which means 
using 4 or 5 CCWs to send the larger block.  The overhead for data 
chaining is less than for command chaining but still not zero.  So I 
doubt if ExHPDM will provide any significant performance gain over a 
direct backup, plus ExHPDM has its own overhead.


In any case, the tape drive always internally blocks user blocks (after 
compression) into superblocks on the tape; last number I recall for a 
superblock was 384K on 3590.


As someone else said, the channel is unlikely to be your bottleneck for 
a single backup.  The disk and the tape are undoubtely slower than the 
channel.  But if you do concurrent backups down the same disk or tape 
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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Brian Peterson
 
 Did you ever check the ISPF TSO Command Table to see if 
 perhaps site modifications were accidentally regressed with 
 your z/OS maintenance?  

No; never even thought of it

 Perhaps you used to have an entry for DocuText in this 
 table, and now you don't. 

I'll review the Docu/Text install doc, but OTTOMH I don't recall
modifying anything ISPF-related except the ISPxLIB DD statements.

-jc-

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Debbie Mitchell
__

Is it possible that the module in question was included in a linklisted 
library that was replaced with the recent maintenance?  Possibly 
SYS1.LINKLIB or one of its cohorts?  Just a thought.

Debbie Mitchell
Utica National Insurance Group


 
 On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 09:38:29 -0500, Chase, John wrote:
 





 Could this module have been in a local lnklst lib before and 
 perhaps someone did some cleanup?

I can't say definitively that that's not possible (that's as close as I
can come to saying, No way, Jose).  The only comment in the
maintenance log of the PROGnn member about DocuText was its addition to
the APF list in Sept. 2005, and that comment log dates back to when we
upgraded from z/OS 1.4 in Feb. 2004.

-jc-


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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread John P Kalinich
On July 25, 2006, Mark Zelden wrote:

Could this module have been in a local lnklst lib before and perhaps
someone did some cleanup?

Or could the load library have been TSOLIB'd in a TSO startup clist (PARM=
in the logon procedure)?

Regards,
John Kalinich
Computer Sciences Corp

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Pinnacle

Since there seems to be a consensus here, I added the Docu/Text load
library to //STEPLIB of the logon proc  Now it works again.

**BUT**

I checked archived copies of our logon proc dating back to the original
installation of Docu/Text here, and its load library has NEVER been in
the //STEPLIB concatenation; only in //ISPLLIB.  And the only thing
that's changed since the Docu/Text installation is the maintenance level
of z/OS 1.5 that we're running.

Anyway, problem solved so thanks for all the ideas, etc.



John,

Did you remove the module from your LINKLIST?  LINKLIST is always the best 
way to resolve the STEPLIB issue.  STEPLIB is very bad for your TSO 
performance since that library is search every single time you hit enter.


Regards,
Tom Conley

PS - You stopping by Baltimore? 


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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:10:08 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Correct.  Sandbox gets the maintenance first, and its alternate RES
set has already been prepped for z/OS 1.7.


Unfortunate you only appear to have 2 sets.  What if you need to put
on maintenance for z/OS 1.6 again?  

 Could this module have been in a local lnklst lib before and
 perhaps someone did some cleanup?

I can't say definitively that that's not possible (that's as close as I
can come to saying, No way, Jose).  The only comment in the
maintenance log of the PROGnn member about DocuText was its addition to
the APF list in Sept. 2005, and that comment log dates back to when we
upgraded from z/OS 1.4 in Feb. 2004.


I was talking about module deletion from an existing LNKLST library,
not removing an entire library from the LNKLST.  SMF might have a
trail if that was the case.  

Even though your sandbox has the same level of z/OS 1.6 or can IPL
under z/OS 1.7, did it break there also? Or don't you have the product 
installed there?

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A-R Mailers (was: Re: Associated Press: ... )

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM said:

 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:01:18 +0200
 
 Right, I see it. I only have the first 3 lines in the newsgroup,
 probably because the period after and the brokerage's has wrapped to a
 new line and a period on position 1 terminates the message. This causes
 newsgroup reading problems every now and then.
 
And, FWIW, the period as it appears on IBM-MAIN's web archive is exactly
in column 72.

I hate mailers that compulsively wrap lines absent any RFC 822 requirement.
At best, they break URLs; sometimes something more bizarre, such as
the above happens.

They're only trying to help you.  And some of the blame lies in MTAs
from vendor(s) that I won't name here that store messages for forwarding
in fixed-length 80-character records, leading some originating MUAs to
wrap lines in self-defense.

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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Jim McAlpine

Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS
datasets as opposed to HFS file systems.

Jim McAlpine


On 7/25/06, Rob Wunderlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:08:58 +0900, Timothy Sipples
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Jim McAlpine wrote:
Can someone point me to a url for the latest version of the above along
with
some installation instructions.

There is a CVS for z/OS (server and client) available here:

http://cvsmvs.dccmn.com

I'm using this z/os client to communicate with a CVSNT server. Only
significant issue I've run across is that passwords longer than 8
characters will not work (they appear to get truncated to 8 chars), even
though the target server supports longer passwords.

You might also want to consider using one of the java CVS clients -- they
should run on z/os as well.

-Rob

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Re: MD5 for z/OS?

2006-07-25 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler

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OK.  I can't read.  The OP asked about MD5 (which is somewhat
deprecated nowadays); I answered about SHA (which is somewhat
less deprecated, so far).  C source code for MD5 appears in
RFC 1321.


two years ago, in the middle of a crypto 2004 talk on MD5 attacks ... 
somebody emailed me asking about doing list of a RFCs that reference MD5 
... so i added md5 RFC reference

http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcmd5.htm

to my rfc index
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietff.htm

recently playing around with css ... i changed the md5 background to 
yellow just for the fun of it.


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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Jim McAlpine said:

 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:25:00 +0100
 
 Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS
 datasets as opposed to HFS file systems.
 
This should be less a concern nowadays, since there's (at least
limited) BPAM support for HFS file systems.

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John P Kalinich
 
 On July 25, 2006, Mark Zelden wrote:
 
 Could this module have been in a local lnklst lib before and perhaps 
 someone did some cleanup?
 
 Or could the load library have been TSOLIB'd in a TSO startup 
 clist (PARM= in the logon procedure)?

To this I can definitively say No.

-jc-

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Edward Jaffe

Ed Finnell wrote:

I know a few people who could tote a z/Box ...


Who??? Even the baby z is a monster! According to the System z9 
Business Class Installation Manual for Physical Planning (GC28-6855), 
the z9 BC weight (without the internal battery feature) is 699 kg (or 
1542 lbs)!


https://www.ibm.com/servers/resourcelink/lib03010.nsf/web+search/2CA3A07C7538CE7A852571180054EAA4/$file/GC28-6855-00.pdf

More to the point, if you stole the zBox, you wouldn't have any data. 
You need to steal the ESS/DS8000/DS6000 disk subsystems as well.


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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Pinnacle
 
  Since there seems to be a consensus here, I added the Docu/Text load

  library to //STEPLIB of the logon proc  Now it works again.
 
  [ snip ]
 
 John,
 
 Did you remove the module from your LINKLIST? 

AFAICD it was never in the linklist (only in the APF list), so no.

 LINKLIST is 
 always the best way to resolve the STEPLIB issue.  STEPLIB is 
 very bad for your TSO performance since that library is 
 search every single time you hit enter.

Noted.

 PS - You stopping by Baltimore? 

Not this time  We're in the midst of a **MAJOR** infrastructure
upgrade, which will be followed immediately by a z/OS upgrade.  We
sent a contingent to Spring SHARE in Seattle, and we're busy applying a
lot of what they brought back from there.

Maybe when all the dust has settled, we could cobble up a SHARE pitch on
How to Build an Orange Crate from Old Pieces of Furniture[1] or
something.  :-)

-jc-

[1] From the Library of Congress http://www.loc.gov:

LC Control Number: 57006308  
Type of Material: Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.) 
Brief Description: Cluett, Jack. 
 How to build an orange crate from old pieces of furniture. Illus. by
Tom Funk. 
 [1st ed.] 
 Garden City, N.Y., Doubleday, 1957. 
 189 p. illus. 22 cm. 
  
CALL NUMBER: PS3505.L97 H6 

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Jeffrey D. Smith
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Sent: 7/25/2006 6:44 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

The IT staff at CS Stars, a Chicago-based independent insurance brokerage,
and at the State of New York, decided it was a smart idea to use a personal
computer to shuttle data between the State's system and the brokerage's.
Then the personal computer, housed in a secured facility (hah), went
missing.  AP has the story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14015598/

This incident has absolutely nothing to do with mainframes.

- - - - -
Timothy F. Sipples
==

I am reminded of an old saying (paraphrased),

The level of intellectual capacity that got us
into this mess is inadequate to get us out of
this mess.

Translation: The morons that made stupid decisions that
caused the problem should not be allowed to make the
decisions to solve the problem.


Jeffrey D. Smith
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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Matthew Stitt
However, you have now left us with a mystery. g

What happened to solve your problem?

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Mark Zelden
 
 On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:10:08 -0500, Chase, John wrote:
 
 Correct.  Sandbox gets the maintenance first, and its alternate
RES 
 set has already been prepped for z/OS 1.7.
 
 Unfortunate you only appear to have 2 sets.  What if you need 
 to put on maintenance for z/OS 1.6 again? 

That would depend on whether such need (and it would have to be a real
need) occurs before or after we migrate to the new hardware.  I.e., we
have no more preventive maintenance cycles scheduled until after
migration is complete.  If after, we would probably have enough spare
DASD to clone another alternate set from the Production
pre-maintenance set (provided we haven't normalized Production by
then).  Otherwise we'll just have to cross that bridge if we come to it.

  Could this module have been in a local lnklst lib before and
perhaps 
  someone did some cleanup?
 
 I can't say definitively that that's not possible (that's as close as
I 
 can come to saying, No way, Jose).  The only comment in the 
 maintenance log of the PROGnn member about DocuText was its addition
to 
 the APF list in Sept. 2005, and that comment log dates back to when
we 
 upgraded from z/OS 1.4 in Feb. 2004.
 
 I was talking about module deletion from an existing LNKLST 
 library, not removing an entire library from the LNKLST.  SMF 
 might have a trail if that was the case. 

We try to avoid extra copies of load modules; especially of software
products.  Too easy to forget they're lying around.

 Even though your sandbox has the same level of z/OS 1.6 or 
 can IPL under z/OS 1.7, did it break there also? Or don't you 
 have the product installed there?

Actually we're still on z/OS 1.5 (on G5 hardware) at the moment.  But
no, we don't have this product installed in the sandbox anyway.

-jc-

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Re: VSE Version of XMIT Receive

2006-07-25 Thread Ray Mullins
Hey, it was single purpose.  :-) I was transferring the contents of an ADATA
member to VSE for use by the HLASM IDF.

I have a long simmering requirement that I want to post through WAVV about
having a DLM=xx facility.  But since I don't work for a site that has VSE at
the moment, I have to file it and others via proxy (vielen dank, du kennst,
wer du bist g  ).

Later,
Ray



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Subject: Re: VSE Version of XMIT  Receive

In a recent note, Ray Mullins said:

 Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2006 17:35:22 -0700
 
 I got around it by substituting '~*' if I found '/* in col 1 (which I 
 knew, in our environment, would never be found in real live data).
 
A bit of a challenge, though not impossible, since NETDATA contains some
binary count fields, and you had to prove that no octet in a count could
match the code point for '~'.

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matthew Stitt
 
 However, you have now left us with a mystery. g
 
 What happened to solve your problem?

I added the product's load library to the //STEPLIB in our TSO logon
proc.  And pursuant to Tom Conley's comment regarding STEPLIB vs
LINKLIST, I will likely seek internal consensus to linklist it
instead.

-jc-

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/25/2006 10:47:08 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Who???  Even the baby z is a monster! According to the System z9  




No, no I was thinking of the single frame z/890. The masters power lifters  
can do(exceed) that in the three categories. Squat, deadlift and bench  press.
 
_http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/worlds/wormas2005.htm_ 
(http://www.powerlifting-ipf.com/worlds/wormas2005.htm)  

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Chase, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Finnell
  
 Who???  Even the baby z is a monster! According to the System z9  
 
 
 No, no I was thinking of the single frame z/890. The masters 
 power lifters can do(exceed) that in the three categories. 
 Squat, deadlift and bench  press.

Lifting the weight is one thing  Carrying it off is another thing
entirely.

-jc-

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 7/25/2006 11:45:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Lifting  the weight is one thing  Carrying it off is another  thing
entirely.





Yeah guess we have to go to the 'World's strongest' categorys for that.  It's 
fun to watch but don't know any of them.

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Re: Associated Press: 540,000 New Yorkers at Risk of Identity Theft

2006-07-25 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
My favorite quote of all relevant to Big Iron v. Slaptops - Never trust a 
computer you can pick up.

Returning to lurk-mode.




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ZOS Systems Programmer
Crawford  Company
PH: 770 621 3256
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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Rob Wunderlich
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:25:00 +0100, Jim McAlpine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Are ther any CVS clients available that allow source to be brought into PDS
datasets as opposed to HFS file systems.


I update CVS indirectly from PDS members. I accomplsh this by using a 
bridge exec that OCOPYs the PDS member to temp HFS files before invoking 
CVS client on the temp HFS files. 

-Rob

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Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I'm currently working on a project where we have to dump on tape (3592
Jaguar 2) about 6To in 6 hours (~1To/h).
We are using FICON Express 2Go connected on a z/800 mainframe.
Does anyone know the block size of an ADRDSSU physical dump?
We are wondering if we need or not software like ExHPDM (STK Product)
that is able to dump on cartdrige with a 256K blocksize.
Some people are saying that speed limit on an Ficon channel depending on
the blocksize of the data that was carrying on.

Rom -

We use ExHPDM and have been happy with it.  We move about 2.7Tb to six
Escon attached 9840b drives in about 2 hours.

Remember, however, that its a balancing act between your source disk speeds
and the number and speed of the tape drives you have.

Our source disk is two Escon attached STK arrays and we have another
product feature called HSDM (High Speed Data Mover) which moves the data
from disk to tape in its native compressed format.  If you're not familiar
with STK disk, the data is stored on the disk in a compressed format.   So
while we are logically moving 2.7Tb, we are only actually physically moving
about 600Gb.
We've pretty much balanced and maxed out the throughput of the arrays and
drives through trial and error.   We're running 42 concurrent FDR backups
which are streamed to those six tapes drives by ExHPDM.   So adding more
drives does not get us any more speed - we would have to spread the data
across more disk arrays or faster disk arrays, and then add more tape
drives also to handle the throughput.

What type of disk is your source data stored on?

Hope the info is useful.

Jeffrey Deaver, Senior Analyst, Systems Engineering
651-665-4231

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Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread Jeffrey Deaver
I was told by someone at Sun/STK that ExHPDM doesn't buy you anything
with FICON attached tape. Since we still have ESCON attached host (MVS)
drives at this point, I haven't verified the statement.   What does
anyone else know about this?

It will still buy you the ability to stream multiple backups to a single
tape concurrently.  We dump 2.7 Tb across 800+ volumes to 25 tapes (9840)
using 6 drives in about 2 hours.

Jeffrey Deaver, Senior Analyst, Systems Engineering
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Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT

2006-07-25 Thread Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
Comments embedded.

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Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:08 PM
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Subject: Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT
snip
What I am trying to do is get back to the main task TCB for the
address space to use its TIOT.

Why? What are you doing for which the TCBTIO of the *current* TCB is
not the correct pointer?

snip

It is not what I'm doing, it is what I've seen happen. I have seen in
dumps where the TCBTIO points to an entirely different TIOT than the Job
Step TCB (let's not get into the INITiator STC, etc., I'm talking only
about the so called user program tasks).

snip

This led me to understand that if a TCB is attached with a KEY0
state, that the TCBJSTCB will point to itself.

A rather strange conclusion. Did you read Authorized Assembler
Services?

And this idea was confirmed
when looking at the z/OS 1.7 data areas where I found a comment that
indicated that *any* TCB that was attached as KEY0 will have the
TCBJSTCB pointing to itself. 

It's dead wrong. I suggest an ETR or RCF.
snip

Done. I asked POK about this and then pointed them to the data area's
TCB doc. We'll see if they actually fix this. 

However, the first time I recall having run into this situation was with
MVS/SP3.1.x levels at IBM. Of course I was on a development machine
where people were allowed to do odd things.

snip
Ah, but now this is where the confusion comes in. How do I get to
the true Job Step TCB to look at its TIOT?

What do you mean by true job step? The Initiator for a batch job is
a started task and, as such, is a job step task and has its own TIOT.

snip
My code CAN run in an STC environment. It can also run as a batch job,
or even invoked to be an attached task to either environment. So knowing
where to get to the JCL built TIOT every time the code gets called is
important.
snip

Specifically, if I am trying to get to the common TIOT (shall we
say, Job Step TIOT), I may not be able to depend on the TCBJSTCB
pointing to the true Job Step TCB.  

What gives you that idea?

Please tell me I'm wrong.

Very.

PSATOLD-TCBTIO (or use EXTRACT) for any plausible situation.
PSATOLD-TCBJSTCB would take you to the job step TCB, but it will
normally have the same TIOT pointer as the current TCB does, and when
it doesn't it will be the current TCB that you need.


snip

What gives me that idea are some very interesting things I've seen in
dumps in a former life as either a software developer or L3 support
person for  IBM (AI languages), Boole  Babbage (AutoOp  MainView), ACS
(OBS/WYLBUR) and finally CA (OPS/MVS, JARS, MICS).

Your observation of normally have the same TIOT pointer has been found
to be not so normal. While probably true in a static shop, it isn't
where the operating environment changes because of testing with this or
that release of this or that product or release of MVS/JESx. I am
still trying to get my hands around who or what can builds a TIOT as a
daughter or great grand daughter task. But I have seen that as well as
TCBs with TCBTIO = 0.

So I thought I'd try to tap the great well of knowledge in IBM Main to
figure out how to know I'm at the true Job Step TCB so I know I'm
pointing to its TIOT.

Personally I use PSATOLD - TCBJSTCB - TCBTIO. But since I'm doing
stuff that will be used by many others, I would rather make sure I cover
any weirdness at my own programmer's LPAR.

Later,
Steve.T

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Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT

2006-07-25 Thread Art Celestini
It's been a long time since I did it, but I believe if an ATTACH is
issued with JSTCB=YES, the TCB is hung off the initiator's TCB and you
get an entirely new TIOT.  I seem to remember that there was something
in this TIOT, but I don't remember what it was.  (It might have been 
just the header with the job and stepname.)


At 01:47 PM 7/25/2006, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW) wrote:
  
Comments embedded.

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Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2006 2:08 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT
snip
What I am trying to do is get back to the main task TCB for the
address space to use its TIOT.

Why? What are you doing for which the TCBTIO of the *current* TCB is
not the correct pointer?

snip

It is not what I'm doing, it is what I've seen happen. I have seen in
dumps where the TCBTIO points to an entirely different TIOT than the Job
Step TCB (let's not get into the INITiator STC, etc., I'm talking only
about the so called user program tasks).

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Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT

2006-07-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:04:24 -0400 Art Celestini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:It's been a long time since I did it, but I believe if an ATTACH is
:issued with JSTCB=YES, the TCB is hung off the initiator's TCB and you
:get an entirely new TIOT.  I seem to remember that there was something
:in this TIOT, but I don't remember what it was.  (It might have been 
:just the header with the job and stepname.)

No.

An ATTACH with JSTCB=YES creates a daughter of the current task. 

A task cannot mix JSTCB=YES and NO - all daughters must be one or the other.

The TIOT is propagated, though (I guess) the attacher can modify the TCB and
place a new one.

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Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT

2006-07-25 Thread Art Celestini
It might be that the ATTACH needs to be issued in Sup State.  Again,
I don't remember the details, but I do remember there was a way to get
an entirely separate TIOT.


At 03:24 PM 7/25/2006, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
  
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:04:24 -0400 Art Celestini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:It's been a long time since I did it, but I believe if an ATTACH is
:issued with JSTCB=YES, the TCB is hung off the initiator's TCB and you
:get an entirely new TIOT.  I seem to remember that there was something
:in this TIOT, but I don't remember what it was.  (It might have been 
:just the header with the job and stepname.)

No.

An ATTACH with JSTCB=YES creates a daughter of the current task. 

A task cannot mix JSTCB=YES and NO - all daughters must be one or the other.

The TIOT is propagated, though (I guess) the attacher can modify the TCB and
place a new one.



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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said:

 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:04:28 -0500
 
 I update CVS indirectly from PDS members. I accomplsh this by using a
 bridge exec that OCOPYs the PDS member to temp HFS files before invoking
 CVS client on the temp HFS files.
 
But, then, why do you need the PDS at all?  OCOPY, instead, to a
durable HFS file, delete the PDS, and be done with it.

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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin
 Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 2:35 PM
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 Subject: Re: CVS for MVS
 
 
 In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said:
 
  Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:04:28 -0500
  
  I update CVS indirectly from PDS members. I accomplsh this 
 by using a
  bridge exec that OCOPYs the PDS member to temp HFS files 
 before invoking
  CVS client on the temp HFS files.
  
 But, then, why do you need the PDS at all?  OCOPY, instead, to a
 durable HFS file, delete the PDS, and be done with it.
 
 -- gil

IIRC, BPAM support for HFS directories is read-only. If somebody want
to use legacy programs to update a member of an emulated PDS in an
HFS, then it would fail. So the PDS may still be needed. E.g. using
IEBUPDTE shudder or maybe, like me, they have some ISPF edit macros
which they run in batch which scan and update members of a given PDS.

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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:44:59 -0500
 
 IIRC, BPAM support for HFS directories is read-only. If somebody want
 to use legacy programs to update a member of an emulated PDS in an
 HFS, then it would fail. So the PDS may still be needed. E.g. using
 IEBUPDTE shudder or maybe, like me, they have some ISPF edit macros
 which they run in batch which scan and update members of a given PDS.
 
Good points.  I agree (and I stated) the support is partial.
I hope it's on IBM's agenda to provide ISPF LM, BPAM
write, and DESERV support for HFS directories.

I'd certainly use patch rather than IEBUPDTE.

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DFHSM Shutdown Restart

2006-07-25 Thread Howard Rifkind
Hello,
   
  I have to change the HSM starting parmlib member and I don't (can't) re IPL 
the system.
   
  Can anyone help me out with the commands to first stop HSM, shut it down and 
then restarte it again...
   
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Re: DFHSM Shutdown Restart

2006-07-25 Thread Rob Schwartz

We just P DFHSM and then S DFHSM...
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Hello,

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Re: DFHSM Shutdown Restart

2006-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Can anyone help me out with the commands to first stop HSM, shut it down and 
then restarte it again...

1. P HSM
2. Wait.
3. S HSM


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+DFHFC0987 Problem in CICS when access a file.

2006-07-25 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos

Hi all

I have a problem when CICS acess a file, with the msg below:

Anybody please help me in diagnostic of this problem.

IEC161I 052(013)-084,CICSEXT0,CICSEXT0,CEXACCTA,,,
01.33.45 STC57935  IEC161I CEX.MZ.ODQ2.MACCTA00.CLUSTER,
CEX.MZ.ODQ2.MACCTA00.DATA,
01.33.45 STC57935  IEC161I CATALOG.PRD25

01.33.45 STC57935  +DFHFC0987 PCICSEX0
654
  654  Non-RLS OPEN of file CEXACCTA failed: Not available for
type of
  654  processing. VSAM codes - 0008, 00A8 in module
DFHFCFS.
01.33.45 STC57935  +DFHME0116 PCICSEX0
655
  655  (Module:DFHMEME) CICS symptom string for message
DFHFC0987 is
  655  PIDS/5697E9300 LVLS/620 MS/DFHFC0987 RIDS/DFHFCFS
PTFS/UK04249
  655  PRCS/0008 PRCS/00A8

In search of IBM site I received this note but is not my situation :

 *Problem* You are starting a CICS(r) MAS for the first time and receive
message DFHFC0987 with RCA8 for filename EYUDREP.*Cause * The CMAS
GRPLIST entry EYU230L0 is in the MAS GRPLIST resulting in the DEFINE FILE
definition for the EYUDREP to be installed in the MAS. But, the EYUDREP can
only be accessed in a CMAS.*Solution* Ensure that the MAS GRPLIST SIT
parameter only references a LIST containing the EYU9xxG1 GROUP (where xx is
53, 62, 63 or 64 for CICS TS 1.3, CICS TS 2.2, CICS TS 2.3 or CICS TS
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Re: +DFHFC0987 Problem in CICS when access a file.

2006-07-25 Thread Tom Schmidt
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:06:19 -0300, Jorge Arueira Campos wrote:

I have a problem when CICS acess a file, with the msg below:

IEC161I 052(013)-084,CICSEXT0,CICSEXT0,CEXACCTA,,,
01.33.45 STC57935  IEC161I CEX.MZ.ODQ2.MACCTA00.CLUSTER,
CEX.MZ.ODQ2.MACCTA00.DATA,
01.33.45 STC57935  IEC161I CATALOG.PRD25


The IEC161I messages tells you what you need to know:  
  The file was open to another ACB and the file specified SHROPTIONS(2).
 
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Re: DFHSM Shutdown Restart

2006-07-25 Thread Howard Rifkind
Thanks Rob,
   
  An operator just asked me this question:
   
  If there isn't any space to migrate a datast to ML1 will the dataset go out 
to ML2 without any issues,  Will anyone be notified?

Rob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Hello,

 I have to change the HSM starting parmlib member and I don't (can't) re 
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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
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 In a recent note, McKown, John said:
 

snip

 Good points.  I agree (and I stated) the support is partial.
 I hope it's on IBM's agenda to provide ISPF LM, BPAM
 write, and DESERV support for HFS directories.

That would be very nice. However, around here, we are not likely to ever
use HFS/ZFS instead of PDS or PDSE files for a number of reasons. Some
are good, others are bad.

1) Nobody recognized me, I didn't look the same. That is, people
around here tend to not be too interested in new things. They are too
busy trying to bail the boat to worry about painting it a new color.
Very few here have any notion of UNIX concepts. Even fewer care. Perhaps
a bit short sighted, but what can I do? I try, but nobody wants to
listen.

2) Our application backup methodology is based on a product called VFI.
VFI does not currently support HFS/ZFS resident files, only legacy
files (PDS, sequential - disk and tape resident, and VSAM). VFI finds
changed/created files by processing SMF records. HFS file activity does
not cut SMF type 14/15 records when a file is closed. As best as I can
tell, there is no way to track HFS file activity via SMF records.

3) Speaking of the above, we often use MXG to answer the question: Who
is using a particular file? We do this to determine if a file can be
eliminated.

4) DFSMShsm does not support UNIX resident files. I think that some
Tivoli product does, but that is more money for no better
functionality.

5) Cannot use a UNIX subdirectory in a STEPLIB/JOBLIB. This really
destroys any desire on my part to put any legacy programs in a UNIX
subdirectory.

6) Increased RACF work to assign everybody a unique UNIX UID. This could
likely be automated, using the AUTOUID in the ADDUSER. This assumes that
people would want to replace their personal PDSes with UNIX
subdirectories. A very unlikely scenario, in my opinion. see #1 above


Having said all of that, I would really LOVE to try to NFS export, or
use SMB, so that my z/OS UNIX home would be accessable from my
workstation. I am aware that people have done this, but I think it would
require some help from the Windows server people. Or at least their
acquiesce to let me try. I feel this is very unlikely. Right now we are
in detente with them. In the past, open warfare. Some of which I will
admit is my fault.

 
 I'd certainly use patch rather than IEBUPDTE.

I very much agree! Especially since I generate them using diff and
never by hand.

 
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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
VFI finds changed/created files by processing SMF records.

That seems excessive.
Wouldn't it be better to just go and look at VTOCs?


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Re: Blocksize and speed limit on an FICON channel

2006-07-25 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Radoslaw,

 
 The real bottleneck would be your source media
 speed. It will be DASD, won't it ? DASD is much SLOWER then tape, when
 considering sustained sequential I/O's.
 

This has not been true for a long time. Pre-fetching concurrently of 4 or 8
drives is much faster than a single tape drive can handle. There would have
to be some serious backend contention problems for tape to be faster than
multiple disks.

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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
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 VFI finds changed/created files by processing SMF records.
 
 That seems excessive.
 Wouldn't it be better to just go and look at VTOCs?

I am not the designer. Luckily, neither am I the support person. And
looking at VTOCs is fine for DASD resident datasets. But it could take a
long time to scan all the online DASD. An how can you be sure that you
really found all the changed files? Something might have changed the
needs backup bit.

Also, VFI will copy tape datasets. This allows the application to create
a single tape output and let VFI worry about making an off-site disaster
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Re: DFHSM Shutdown Restart

2006-07-25 Thread Rob Schwartz

I think it will go to ML2 with no notification.
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Thanks Rob,

 An operator just asked me this question:

 If there isn't any space to migrate a datast to ML1 will the dataset go 
out to ML2 without any issues,  Will anyone be notified?


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Hello,

I have to change the HSM starting parmlib member and I don't (can't) re
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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
But it could take a long time to scan all the online DASD.

Processing SMF data is not a quick process.
We do it successfully with HSM in parallel tasks for 9.5TB.


An how can you be sure that you really found all the changed files?

If I lost SMF, how can I be sure.
You also have to make an assumption that your definitions and the software are 
both correct.
Either for HSM or for VFI.

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I love TCPIP (not!)

2006-07-25 Thread Matthew Stitt
Having fun with TCPIP.  Got some systems which use the GATEWAY statements. 
I want to convert them to ROUTE statements.  I also have an OSA port and a
HiperSockets port defined.

I want the traffic between the LPARS to use the HiperSockets, and everthing
else to use the OSA port.  Default route to use the OSA port.

OSA is 10.x.x.x for all traffic.  HiperSocket is 192.10.x.x for traffic. 
Each LPAR is 192.10.1.xxx.

Would someone care to help get this stuff working the way I want?

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Re: Monday blues? (IKJEFTSR RC=20,RSN=40)

2006-07-25 Thread Andy Wood
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:37:03 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I added the product's load library to the //STEPLIB in our TSO logon
proc.  And pursuant to Tom Conley's comment regarding STEPLIB vs
LINKLIST, I will likely seek internal consensus to linklist it
instead.


Did you check the Docu/Text install guide? In the Jobscan install guide it 
says this about the similar module: Move module J00YAAI to an APF-
authorized data set. If the data set is not in the LNKLST or in LPA, it 
must be added to the STEPLIB concatenation in the TSO Logon PROC. It will 
not be loaded from the ISPLLIB allocation.

Is it possible somebody followed advice like that and copied D00YAAI to 
somewhere where it got lost in your maintenance process?
 

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Re: DFHSM Shutdown Restart

2006-07-25 Thread Habres, Richard (GTI)
You will get an ARC1237I message and the data set will NOT go to ML2.
 
Also, when we shutdown HSM, we do a F HSM,SETSYS EMER and F HSM,STOP

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I think it will go to ML2 with no notification.
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 Thanks Rob,

  An operator just asked me this question:

  If there isn't any space to migrate a datast to ML1 will the dataset
go 
 out to ML2 without any issues,  Will anyone be notified?

 Rob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  We just P DFHSM and then S DFHSM...
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 Hello,

 I have to change the HSM starting parmlib member and I don't (can't)
re
 IPL the system.

 Can anyone help me out with the commands to first stop HSM, shut it
down
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Re: I love TCPIP (not!)

2006-07-25 Thread McKown, John
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 Having fun with TCPIP.  Got some systems which use the 
 GATEWAY statements. 
 I want to convert them to ROUTE statements.  I also have an 
 OSA port and a
 HiperSockets port defined.
 
 I want the traffic between the LPARS to use the HiperSockets, 
 and everthing
 else to use the OSA port.  Default route to use the OSA port.
 
 OSA is 10.x.x.x for all traffic.  HiperSocket is 192.10.x.x 
 for traffic. 
 Each LPAR is 192.10.1.xxx.
 
 Would someone care to help get this stuff working the way I want?
 
 Thanks

First, change to the BEGINROUTES/ENDROUTES. It is significantly easier
to maintain

BEGINROUTES
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/8 osa MTU nnn
ROUTE 192.10.0.0/16 hipersocket MTU nnn
ROUTE DEFAULT = osa MTU nnn
ENDROUTES

The will route all the 10.x.x.x addresses out the osa. The second will
route all the 192.10.x.x addresses out the hipersocket. It will then
route all other addresses out the osa. Yes, technically, the first ROUTE
of the 10.x.x.x is unnecessary because the DEFAULT will catch it. But I
like to have it in there anyway.

Note that you can also have:

BEGINROUTES
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/8 osa1 MTU nnn
ROUTE 10.0.0.0/8 osa2 MTU nnn
...
ROUTE DEFAULT = osa1 MTU nnn
ROUTE DEFAULT = osa2 MTU nnn
ENDROUTES

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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, McKown, John said:

 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 15:18:21 -0500
 
  I'd certainly use patch rather than IEBUPDTE.
 
 I very much agree! Especially since I generate them using diff and
 never by hand.
 
SuperC will generate IEBUPDTE input (option UPDMVS8).  But
it's so unreliable that when I want to do this, I use
option UPDCMS8 (CMS UPDATE format) and run a Rexx filter
to convert to IEBUPDTE format.

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What's driving my temp data sets to Catalog processing?

2006-07-25 Thread Tom Rusnak
Hi folks,

I was running GTF to trace SVC 26(CATALOG) to try and figure out why my 
master catalog hit ratio is between 45-55% both with ISC or VLF, but that 
may be another thread for another day. 

I noticed quite a few temporary data sets requests in the trace.   The 
majority if not all were coming out of a third party package (CA Endevor). 
We do manage our temporary data sets thorugh SMS, however I can't seem to 
create the same situation either with a amp;TEMP data set in JCL, or running 
IKJEFT01 in batch and using the TSO ALLOC command.  When I GTF my job I 
don't see any of the temporary data sets in the trace.

Can anyone tell me under what circumstances SVC 26 will be used for 
temporary data sets?  Here are a couple of GTF entries for anyone game 
enough to try.   The first word of the PLIST varies a bit although  
04008101 seems to be quite common and I believe it along with the 08 at 
offset 16 is simply a Define.

Thanks and all the best,

Tom

SVC. 026  ASCB 00F60E80 CPU. 0001 JOBNAME. DDVEXTSR 
  MODN SVC-RES  R15. 849DD038 R0..  
  PLIST... 04008101 7F53BDE4   0803 
  DSN/CI.. SYS06206.T133342.RA000.DDVEXTSR.BNDLST   
  VOLIST.. N/A  
  GMT-07/25/2006 03:33:42.146679  LOC-07/25/2006 13:33:42.14
SVC. 026  ASCB 00F60E80 CPU.  JOBNAME. DDVEXTSR 
  MODN SVC-RES  R15. 849DD038 R0.. 7F53AD28 
  PLIST... 1150 0099E5E8 009A083E 009A082E 4000 
  DSN/CI.. SYS06206.T133342.RA000.DDVEXTSR.BNDLST   
  VOLIST.. N/A   

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ABCs of z/OS System Programming volume 10 (Redpiece)

2006-07-25 Thread john gilmore
A new, revised (redpiece) draft of volume 10 of the ABCs is available for 
downloading at the IBM redbook website.


John Gilmore
Ashland, MA 01721-1817
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ARM RESTART MANAGER

2006-07-25 Thread Jorge Arueira Campos

Hi Again

I need information about ARM Restart. In my shop I codified a policy of
restart for my STC's with the only start for products of file
transfers. When I IPL the driving system, the restart do not occours in the
target system(SSP2), the sample and the syslog below. Anybody have a sample
of policy whith rules of restart for only three elements ???

Thanks for all


Jorge Arueira Campos/Vanderlei Canesso

CEF-OSASCO-SP - BRAZIL

DATA TYPE(ARM)
DEFINE POLICY NAME(POLARM1) REPLACE(YES)
RESTART_ORDER
 RESTART_GROUP(DEFAULT)
 ELEMENT(*)
 RESTART_ATTEMPTS(0)
LEVEL(1)
 ELEMENT_NAME(XFBS1MLB)
LEVEL(2)
 ELEMENT_NAME(XFBS1SRQ)
LEVEL(3)
 ELEMENT_NAME(XFBS1TRN)
RESTART_GROUP(XFB)
 TARGET_SYSTEM(SSP2)
 ELEMENT(XFBS1MLB)
 ELEMENT(XFBS1SRQ)
 ELEMENT(XFBS1TRN)
   RESTART_METHOD(BOTH,STC,'S XFBS1???')

SYSLOG Msg:

THE RESTART ATTEMPTS THRESHOLD HAS BEEN REACHED.
IXC804I JOBNAME XFBS1SRQ, ELEMENT XXFBXFBS1SRQ WAS NOT RESTARTED.
075
THE RESTART ATTEMPTS THRESHOLD HAS BEEN REACHED.
IXC804I JOBNAME XFBS1MLB, ELEMENT XXFBXFBS1MLB WAS NOT RESTARTED.
076
THE RESTART ATTEMPTS THRESHOLD HAS BEEN REACHED.
IXC804I JOBNAME XFBS1TRN, ELEMENT XXFBXFBS1TRN WAS NOT RESTARTED.
077
THE RESTART ATTEMPTS THRESHOLD HAS BEEN REACHED.

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Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT

2006-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
07/25/2006
   at 03:04 PM, Art Celestini [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

It's been a long time since I did it, but I believe if an ATTACH is
issued with JSTCB=YES, the TCB is hung off the initiator's TCB and
you get an entirely new TIOT.

No. The new TCB is always hung off the invokers TCB. The invoker of
ATTACH JSTCB=YES is responsible for the new JSCB and TIOT.
 
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Re: Questions on TCB Chain / TIOT

2006-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 07/25/2006
   at 01:47 PM, Thompson, Steve (SCI TW)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

It is not what I'm doing, it is what I've seen happen.

Please reread my comment. You have seen TCBTIO e different, but that's
not the issue. The issue is whether you have ever seen a situation
where the code needed a TIOT other than the one pointed to by the TCB
it is running under.

My code CAN run in an STC environment. It can also run as a batch
job, or even invoked to be an attached task to either environment.
So knowing where to get to the JCL built TIOT every time the code
gets called is important.

What use to you is the JCL built TIOT if your running under a TCB that
doesn't point to it?

What gives me that idea are some very interesting things I've seen
in dumps

Please reread my message; you're answering a question that I never
asked instead of the one that I did ask.

Your observation of normally have the same TIOT pointer has been
found to be not so normal.

Perhaps we don't mean the same thing by normal. What percentage of
cases has to exhibit a pathology before you consider it normal?

I am still trying to get my hands around who or what can builds a 
TIOT as a daughter or great grand daughter task.

Why? What would you do with the TIOT for a task that you're not
running under?

But I have seen that as well as TCBs with TCBTIO = 0.

You shouldn't be doing DYNALLOC under those.

Personally I use PSATOLD - TCBJSTCB - TCBTIO. 

That's the right way to do the wrong thing. If you're looking for
allocations visible to the current task, then you need PSATOLD -
TCBTIO.

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Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/24/2006
   at 11:33 PM, Robert A. Rosenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

There are some whose name have accented letters (unlike these).

Dvorak. There should be an accent mark on it called something like
Hachek; it looks like an inverted caret. 
 
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Re: looking for an example of RDJFCB in 31 bit

2006-07-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
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on 07/24/2006
   at 04:49 PM, John J. Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I am trying to convert a program to 31 ANY and I am having trouble
with an  RDJFCB.

This might be a good time to switch to using an allocation retrieval
list (ARL) instead.
 
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Re: Looking for non-English text (UTF-16) for lab data

2006-07-25 Thread Gerhard Postpischil

Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:

Dvorak. There should be an accent mark on it called something like
Hachek; it looks like an inverted caret. 


Close; try Haček (and Dvořak)

Gerhard Postpischil
Bradford, VT

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Re: CVS for MVS

2006-07-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
Rob Wunderlich writes:
You might also want to consider using one of the java CVS clients -- they
should run on z/os as well.

That's another good idea, Rob.  To expand on that, here's one such Java
implementation:

http://javacvs.netbeans.org/library/index.html

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WebSphere HATS Webcast, New HOD and PComm

2006-07-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
There's a HATS webcast coming up on August 8, 2006, at 2:00 p.m. Eastern
U.S. time.  Register here:

http://event.on24.com/clients/ibm/getreadyforSOA

Also, on July 25, 2006, IBM announced WebSphere Host On-Demand Version 10
and Personal Communications Version 5.9.  Details here:

http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS206-171/ENUS206-171.PDF

[What are they?]

WebSphere HATS (Host Access Transformation Services) can convert 3270 and
5250 applications on-the-fly into true HTML Web applications for any
standard Web browser, with or without customizing the user interface.  (No
browser plug-ins are required.)  In addition, HATS can connect to 3270,
5250, and VT terminal applications and give them Web service (SOAP)
interfaces.

WebSphere Host On-Demand provides 3270, 5250, VT, and file transfer to Web
browser users on all platforms.  Users do not have to install emulation
software on their desktops, but they receive full function and high
performance terminal emulation (keyboard remapping, macros, client-server
support, subsecond responsiveness, printer sessions, etc.)

Personal Communications provides traditional terminal emulation
capabilities for PCs.  In addition to local installation, PComm also
supports network installation and Windows Terminal Server/Citrix
installations.

While PComm installs on PCs, both WebSphere HATS and Host On-Demand can
install on z/OS and mainframe Linux.  In fact, those are two of the most
popular platforms.  All three support the latest security protocols and
architectures.

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