Re: Attends Orlando IBM EXPRO OCT 7

2006-09-09 Thread Tommy Tsui

Hi Daniel,
This is my first time to visit IBM EXPO...thanks your advice...I will
beware::)

Tommy


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Tommy,
I would love to, but not company policy.
I have been in the past and enjoyed it and learned a lot.

There is a hall of vipers (vendors) who will lure you with pretty
things...beware!




Daniel McLaughlin
ZOS Systems Programmer
Crawford  Company
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HFS Vs ZFs

2006-09-09 Thread Tommy Tsui

Hi,

What's different between HFS  ZFs, I am migrating a z/OS from 1.4 to
1.7.anyone comment or have experience on using ZFs...is it a good time
to change from HFS or ZFsor stay at HFS

Tommy

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P series Vs Z9-109 series

2006-09-09 Thread Tommy Tsui

Hi,

Is it possible to consolidate all P-series machine into a single Z9-109
machine .. ...
how about i-series ...will it remove from IBM family in nearly future?
anyone try upgrade from Z900 to Z9-109?

any opinion will be appreciated

tommy

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Re: P series Vs Z9-109 series

2006-09-09 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.

Tommy Tsui wrote:

Hi,

Is it possible to consolidate all P-series machine into a single Z9-109
machine .. ...
how about i-series ...will it remove from IBM family in nearly future?
anyone try upgrade from Z900 to Z9-109?

any opinion will be appreciated

tommy

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Unless you are running Linux on your p/i Series then you really can not 
consolidate them onto a zSeries.  You can replace the applications 
that running on the the p/iSeries with applications that do the same 
function on a zSeries.


What do you mean by all pSeries machines?  If you mean that you have 
100 pSeries servers and you want to consolidate the workload running on 
them to a single z9, well it depends on which pSeries you have, what 
type of workload you are running and how busy the pSeries systems are. 
However I would say that unless you have a lot of small pSeries or they 
are sitting there very idle you would be hard pressed to put 100 pSeries 
on a single z9.


If you mean can you put any workload that runs on a pSeries onto a z9, 
yes you can, but that does not mean that it will run as well.  There 
come types of workloads that the Power processor does better than a z 
processor does.


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Re: Is no one reading the article?

2006-09-09 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.


Anne  Lynn Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 part of the issue had been that HP had acquired Convex. Convex had
 done the scalable Examplar using 64-port sci memory coherent with
 two hp pa-risc chips/board (128 chips, processor in numa
 configuration).

 my understanding from the hp engineers was that superdome would be
 somewhat smaller and more efficient (to implement, 32 processors) box
 that they would move into the (convex) examplar customer segment
 ... as well as moving out into the more commercial world.

re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006q.html#8 Is no one reading the article?

note that in the same time-frame (mid-90s), both dg  sequent also
did a 64-port SCI cache consistent implementation, but using four
intel processors on a board (for a 256 processor configuration,
instead of the two pa-risc processors on a board done by convex).

the sci design with multiple processors on board are somewhat
analogous to current multiple chip implementations with multiple cores
in a chip.

ibm inherited one of the implementations (NUMA-Q) when it bought sequent.

minor ref:
http://www.scizzl.com/

a couple other past posts in this n.g. that mention superdome
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2003d.html#57 Another light on the map going out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006l.html#28 Google Architecture

for some other historical, at the time ibm bought sequent, steve chen
was cto and evp of product development at sequent. Steve had
previously worked at cray and then formed chen supercomputers
... which got a lot of funding from ibm. 
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2004/11/08/2003210211
http://www.ahaventures.net/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=17Itemid=32

one of the people that worked at cray and chen, joined ibm and
transferred to austin. he was behind the four RSC (rios 0.9 or rios
single chip) chip machine  ... OAK, shared memory but w/o cache
consistency. he then went to HP for superdome.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_Single_Chip

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PGP Assistance Needed

2006-09-09 Thread Warner Mach
Hal:
  .
Thanks much for the detailed explanation.

snip

From:Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PGP Assistance Needed

Suggested reading: z/OS Communications Server, IP Configuration Guide,
Version 1 Release 4, Document Number SC31-8775-02. Of course, use the
manual appropriate to your os level.

... etc 
snip

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Re: Absolute value packed decimal in SyncSort

2006-09-09 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:18:28 -0700, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Bob Rutledge wrote on 09/08/2006 04:50:40 PM:
 Why not just sort it as three characters and have done with it?

That won't work if the EQUALS function is needed.

You lost me with that one, Frank. I don't see how anything is lost if you
sort a 5 digit packed decimal as a 3 byte binary as opposed to a 2 and a
half byte binary.

Tom Marchant

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Re: Absolute value packed decimal in SyncSort

2006-09-09 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 16:52:16 -0500 Tom Marchant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

:On Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:18:28 -0700, Frank Yaeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

:Bob Rutledge wrote on 09/08/2006 04:50:40 PM:
: Why not just sort it as three characters and have done with it?

:That won't work if the EQUALS function is needed.

:You lost me with that one, Frank. I don't see how anything is lost if you
:sort a 5 digit packed decimal as a 3 byte binary as opposed to a 2 and a
:half byte binary.

Consider 

1C
1D
1F

Sorting as a 2.4 byte binary has three equal values.

Sorting as a 3 byte binary has 3 unique values

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It's No Game: IBM Uses PlayStation Chip For New Supercomputer

2006-09-09 Thread Ed Gould

http://news.yahoo.com/s/cmp/20060909/tc_cmp/192700567

By harnessing a processor originally built for the upcoming Sony  
PlayStation 3, IBM is building a new supercomputer that is expected  
to break the petaflop barrier by topping speedz of 1,000 trillion  
calculations per second.


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On 9/13/56

2006-09-09 Thread Ed Gould
On Sept. 13, 1956, IBM announces the world's first hard drive, the  
RAMAC, and explains in this silent film on its

CNET Fri, 08 Sep 2006 1:19 PM PDT
Video: On Sept. 13, 1956, IBM announces the world's first hard drive,  
the RAMAC, and explains in this silent film on its invention to the  
world. In 1952, IBM opened a research lab in San Jose under Rey  
Johnson, and one of its first assignments was to come up with a  
magnetic storage system that could hold 5MB of data, then a whopping  
amount. Johnson's group used platters coated with magnetic


http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6113819.html?part=rsstag=6113819subj=news

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Macro IRARQSRV

2006-09-09 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
Nice one as it shows why IBM prefer PLX or is it just because 

1. no one ask for it. 
2. no one use the assembler version
3. lazy IBM. 

The given size in macro (SYS1.MODGEN) 
*01* Size:   248 bytes  
is also wrong 

Well the SVC 95 for this provide very nice info

Roland

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Re: Debugging SMS

2006-09-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In
[EMAIL PROTECTED],
on 09/08/2006
   at 09:11 AM, Darth Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Are you suggesting having test cases for your non-SMS datasets?

Not specifically; I'm suggesting retaining test cases for every
important component of your system and applications.
 
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Re: Absolute value packed decimal in SyncSort

2006-09-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/08/2006
   at 07:50 PM, Bob Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Why not just sort it as three characters and have done with it?

C  D.
 
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Re: Another BIG Mainframe Bites the Dust

2006-09-09 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/08/2006
   at 06:11 PM, Bernd Oppolzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

BTW, on older machines (not IBM) there were concepts like storage
tags, which  allowed to detect the use of uninitialized variables
even for binary values.  I don't understand why these concepts never
reached the market.

They did: Burroughs, now part of Unisys. RCA. Probably others as well.
 
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Call for Linux and Linux/390 Speakers at SHARE

2006-09-09 Thread Post, Mark K
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBMMAIN

One of the hats I wear is the session scheduler for the Linux Project at
SHARE.  We are always on the lookout for user experience sessions.
That is, when someone who isn't a vendor talks about their personal and
company's experiences, good _or_ bad, with Linux or mainframe Linux.
(The caveat about not being a vendor doesn't apply if you what you're
talking about is your experiences, not your product.)

Based on the mailing list traffic, it's easy to see that we have a fair
amount of people here that could give just such a presentation.
(Several already have in the past, and we thank them for volunteering.)
So, I would like to issue a more direct plea to the members of the list.
If you have worked with Linux or Linux/390 in your company, whether VM
was involved or not, please consider creating a user experience
presentation for SHARE.  If you are interested in doing so, please
contact me off list.

Thanks,

Mark Post
Deputy Project Manager
Linux Project, SHARE

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