Re: FTP-Client(PC)/Server(M/F)
Amazing too, that you chose to type the file name when CUTPASTE would have gotten you on the right path even quicker. On Tue, 30 Oct 2007 15:04:04 -0500, Ron Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: running 1.7 amazing when you call it what it suppose to be I had fpts.rc DAH works as advertized -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: software req-s for running z/OS 1.9
I read many posts where people believe IBM is a single company structure where each department closely interacts with all others. Nice dream. The z/OS testers do not install every other IBM non-z/OS product and try them, that I know of. They might test major components (CICS, DB2, IMS), and then only supported releases. So those other products need to test on z/OS and declare what they work with. Go research ACF/NCP 7.6 and confirm it is still supported and then look to see if it works on z/OS 1.9. If ACF/NCP 7.6 is not supported, then it is a moot point whether it works on z/OS 1.9 or not. Upgrade or continue to take you chances. The dream is still nice, that IBM could set a direction and all departments follow along. Mine would be that all compilers insert the compile time options into the object deck as COBOL does. But, they report to different managers and have no corporate focus. A web page as you suggest would be very helpful. And then if that was extended to include non-IBM products (I realize inter-company data sharing is a problem) it would be a great page when doing an upgrade. And then not just for z/OS, I am doing a CICS TS 3.2 upgrade and need to know which products need to be upgraded. You almost need a database so anyone can select any product and get the requirements and impacts. On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 09:59:08 -0500, Bonno, Tuco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is there an ibm site which i can consult which will tell me the minimum level of any IBM non-z/os product/component which will run w/ z/os 1.9? Appendix B of _planning_for_installation_version_1_release_9_ is organized in the opposite direction for what i need, e.g., GIVEN that i've got acf/ncp 3745-170/31641 at v7r6, WILL that run ok w/ 1.9 ? thanks in advance -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Hiperbatch revisited
Prompted by all this talk of Hiperbatch I took a trip back down memory lane and blogged about it... http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/MartinPacker?entry=memories_of_hiperbatch It's more reminiscence than anything solid. But you might enjoy it, particularly if you enjoyed it the first time around. :-) Cheers, Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: why external CF not internal CF
When to replace, not whether. On Mon, 5 Nov 2007 12:54:09 +0900, Timothy Sipples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Other questions I might look into: whether you should replace the 9037 timers with Server Time Protocol (STP) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What identifies a jobname/address space as a unique instance in time?
While it is true that STOKEN is the unique token for an address space, it is not the unique token for a job when you consider intiators. In an intiator, the address space 'stays up between jobs, so the STOKEN stays the same. STOKEN works just fine for such things as started tasks or TSO users. So I might say the TCB TOKEN of the EXEC PGM=xxx task (the cross-memory-resource-owning task, pointed to by ASCBXTCB) is the real unique thing per job. The TCBTOKEN service can be used to extract the TCB TOKEN. By the way, ASCBINTS is not an intended programming interface. The real question is: why is the question being asked? That might be a better way to derive the answer that is needed. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Upgrading from a z890 to a z9 BC
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 1:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Upgrading from a z890 to a z9 BC Hi, Our management has decided to upgrade one of our z890's. IBM has recommended we upgrade to a z9 BC. Do we have to use the Linux based HMC? YES If we do, can it control the z890 and z800 we will have in the HMC network? YES Will it be able to work together with the other OS/2 based HMC we have? What do you mean? Do your two OS/2 based HMCs talk to each other today, or do they both have the opportunity to connect to the service element of either box? You can have all three HMCs on the same LAN, the Linux one can control all three machines, the OS/2 HMCs can continue to control the two old boxes. Once you use the Linux based HMC you won't want to use the OS/2 based HMC. Okay, that is my opinion. Laggards will have trouble using something new. Being able to right click ICONs instead of looping around a task list is a blessing. TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBMLINK Release 6.0
- Original Message - From: Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 1:58 AM Subject: IBMLINK Release 6.0 Deployed on Friday November 9, 2007. IBMLink Release 6.0 was deployed on November 9, 2007. Many changes have been made to increase availability and performance of the platform. http://tinyurl.com/3c2n6b Let's hope for at least the availability part. :-) well, it certainly can't be any worse Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - OS/390 and z/OS -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MFNetDisk secrets and internal and my new feature BusyIO
I add a new feature BusyIO to handle device busy condition the same as MVS handle. More secrets and more internal in the new documentation which also give details and example using the new BusyIO feature. More people are using and testing my product! I need more people to play with it and enjoy it. Anyone can be an expert of this product and also give support for handling the product for other customers. Thanks, Shai -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Real storage usage - a quick question
Shane, right. It wasn't me who introduce the PAGEDEL command. In the past we had several reserved page datasets which was used/shared by several LPARs. Automation add's and delete them on demand. This was fine for several years unless this add/delete happen more frequently because of some DB2 dumps after DB2 V8 comes real. I wasn't aware of this bad effect until we fall into this. Well just an IPL. Also I don't see the PAGEDEL command is dangerous in some cases. Perhaps I miss some docs or it still isn't documented. However we hit this and perhaps we aren't the only one. Best would be to document this behaviour for the PAGEDEL command. Roland On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 21:35 +0100, Roland wrote: Also AFAIR the PAGEDEL didn't release all storage so massive combination of PAGEADD/PAGEDEL can cause problems too. PAGEDEL ???. That's what IPLs are for. I'm with Mark - you add a page dataset, you leave it there. Get any current problems sorted, then worry about the preferred configuration later. There may be reasons for removing page datasets (rarely), but certainly not in the heat of battle. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Real storage usage - a quick question
A question on PAGEDEL: What happens if a page data set goes bad and you don't delete it? It's just I vaguely recall a long time ago there being a problem under such circumstances. VERY vaguely recall by the way. But that might be a reason to be able to do a PAGEDEL. Martin (who's never done a PAGEDEL nor PAGEADD neither) :-) Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Real storage usage - a quick question
A question on PAGEDEL: What happens if a page data set goes bad and you don't delete it? Since at least MVS/SP 1.1, the ASM and MVS recovery handles that. There should be never a reason to PAGEDEL. It doesn't hurt to be over-allocated on aux store, these days. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What identifies a jobname/address space as a unique instance in time?
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What identifies a jobname/address space as a unique instance in time? The real question is: why is the question being asked? That might be a better way to derive the answer that is needed. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- I have some code that runs in CSA, independent of the started task that puts it there. Occasionally, the started task and the CSA code talk. If the rug gets pulled out of my started task, (it gets cancelled by the operator) and it restarts, I need the CSA code to be aware of this and act accordingly. Is that enough explanation? I'm pretty sure I could accomplish what I need to do (inform the CSA code of a shutdown) from the started task side by having a resource manager termination routine, but it seems to me at this point in the game (product maintenance lifecycle), that working out the hey, my started task went away, and now it's back would be simpler from the CSA code side. Todd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 3:47 PM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: What identifies a jobname/address space as a unique instance in time?
Have your system task create a system-level name/token (nopersist) - when the task goes down, the token disappears as well. On Nov 11, 2007 7:36 PM, Todd Burch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Relson Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 9:06 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: What identifies a jobname/address space as a unique instance in time? The real question is: why is the question being asked? That might be a better way to derive the answer that is needed. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- I have some code that runs in CSA, independent of the started task that puts it there. Occasionally, the started task and the CSA code talk. If the rug gets pulled out of my started task, (it gets cancelled by the operator) and it restarts, I need the CSA code to be aware of this and act accordingly. Is that enough explanation? I'm pretty sure I could accomplish what I need to do (inform the CSA code of a shutdown) from the started task side by having a resource manager termination routine, but it seems to me at this point in the game (product maintenance lifecycle), that working out the hey, my started task went away, and now it's back would be simpler from the CSA code side. Todd No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: 11/10/2007 3:47 PM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Arbiter, DASD emulation? Historical trivia ..
Many thanks to Paul Peplinkski, Ken Hall and Pat O'Keefe, for their recollections about Arbiter. That's a great help; fills in many of the missing pieces. I was the SNA guy at that particular site, and most Arbiter problems initially came through from the Help Desk as comms issues. It usually turned out that, in fact, the Arbiter task on the host had silently abended in the middle of the working day. The LU2 performance comment rings a bell too. In 1990 that particular customer (who much remain nameless) still thought of APPC as a dangerous and radical innovation, so the LU6.2 option would have been rejected out of hand. It looks like Tangram was bought by Opsware a few years back; and Opsware in turn have now been bought out by HP! Cheers Andrew -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2007 07:39 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Arbiter, DASD emulation? Historical trivia .. On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 11:11:13 -0500, Hall, Ken (GTI) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Pat O'Keefe of the product -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
