WLM managed initiators
Hi, We would like to use WLM managed initiators for some of our classes. The jobs running in these classes can only run on one of the systems in our sysplex. Is there a way to make sure that the jobs will run on oe system other that using /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=? TIA Gadi -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
== Robert A. Rosenberg == wrote2008-08-09 06:29: At 11:43 AM -0500 on 8/6/08, Rick Fochtman wrote about Re: California's COBOL payroll system: When second-graders are permitted to use calculators for arithmetic Something predicted over 60 years ago in a story by Science Fiction Author Isaac Asimov. In his story, set in the far future, everyone uses a Hand Calculator and the concept of being able to do arithmetic by hand is not even imagined until a mathematical genus reinvents arithmetic by studying the results produced by his Hand Calculator. That story is hilarious ! :) Thomas Berg -- __ Mundus Vult Decipi __ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Military justice is to justice what military music is to music. - Groucho Marx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
My wife teaches fifth grade and tells me that her kids can't tell time on an analog clock. They grew up in a digital world! Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. -- Original message from Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- == Robert A. Rosenberg == wrote 2008-08-09 06:29: At 11:43 AM -0500 on 8/6/08, Rick Fochtman wrote about Re: California's COBOL payroll system: When second-graders are permitted to use calculators for arithmetic Something predicted over 60 years ago in a story by Science Fiction Author Isaac Asimov. In his story, set in the far future, everyone uses a Hand Calculator and the concept of being able to do arithmetic by hand is not even imagined until a mathematical genus reinvents arithmetic by studying the results produced by his Hand Calculator. That story is hilarious ! :) Thomas Berg -- __ Mundus Vult Decipi __ They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin Military justice is to justice what military music is to music. - Groucho Marx -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM managed initiators
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: WLM managed initiators Hi, We would like to use WLM managed initiators for some of our classes. The jobs running in these classes can only run on one of the systems in our sysplex. Is there a way to make sure that the jobs will run on oe system other that using /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=? TIA Gadi I'm not really very knowledgable about WLM initiators, but wouldn't it be possible to only tell the JES2 on a particular system to service a specific class? E.g. JES2 on SY1 has a JOBCLASS(C) MODE=WLM defination in it. JES2 on SY2 has JOBCLASS(C) MODE=JES and does not have any static initiators set up to service class C. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Brown Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: California's COBOL payroll system My wife teaches fifth grade and tells me that her kids can't tell time on an analog clock. They grew up in a digital world! Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. How will they ever learn to drive??? Keep you hands on the 10 and 2 positions of the wheel. will be meaningless. Or fight in a plane? He's on your 2 o'clock position! That would be 60 degrees to the right of center, I think. It is the end of civilization as we know it!! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. Yes, but there are not an infinite amount of markings. IIRC, the accuracy is at best 0.5 times the smallest gradient. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM managed initiators
I'm not really very knowledgable about WLM initiators, but wouldn't it be possible to only tell the JES2 on a particular system to service a specific class? E.g. JES2 on SY1 has a JOBCLASS(C) MODE=WLM defination in it. JES2 on SY2 has JOBCLASS(C) MODE=JES and does not have any static initiators set up to service class C. I wouldn't mix up WLM JES management in the same MAS. But, besides SYSAFF, there other options. Such as a scheduling environment. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
You are correct, there are not infinite markings but there is a process known as 'interpolating' that allows you to estimate the values between the markings. I asked my school teacher what did interpolating mean. She said I don't know!. I am enjoying this tread but admit it is just useless memories in todays world. I have 18 months to work. Then I am going to teach math, science and history for free. Warren -- Original message from Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. Yes, but there are not an infinite amount of markings. IIRC, the accuracy is at best 0.5 times the smallest gradient. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
Hmmm, these new drivers scare me. Never thought about what you just said. Warren -- Original message from McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Brown Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: California's COBOL payroll system My wife teaches fifth grade and tells me that her kids can't tell time on an analog clock. They grew up in a digital world! Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. How will they ever learn to drive??? Keep you hands on the 10 and 2 positions of the wheel. will be meaningless. Or fight in a plane? He's on your 2 o'clock position! That would be 60 degrees to the right of center, I think. It is the end of civilization as we know it!! -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 4:54 PM, Warren Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My wife teaches fifth grade and tells me that her kids can't tell time on an analog clock. They grew up in a digital world! Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. I remember when I first taught my son how to use a wrench. I had to explain to him the difference between clockwise and counter-clockwise. It was not obvious to him because of digital clocks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Datasets with KEYs
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 08/08/2008 at 04:04 PM, Steve Comstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Ah, you're right. There's BPAM, That too, but I was refering to explicit sequential reading of a data set with KEYLEN=8, rather than the I/O done by BLDL and STOW. FWIW, I could have done the job just as easily without reading the keys. I don't think BDAM is inefficient. Unblocked is usually inefficient. Again, it depends on what he is trying to accomplish. Certainly, and he still hasn't said. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: IBM-MAIN longevity (was Re: Share Attendance)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 07/30/2008 at 11:44 AM, Leonard D Woren [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: If so, and if someone will give me the missing date ranges, I'll look around and try to find my archives which should be pretty complete. (I just hope that I don't have to get them off of a 3480 cartridge, which I basically can't do.) Probably easier than 9-track tape. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:54:21 +, Warren Brown wrote: Most analog devices are more accurate than their digital counter parts. Take the clock, there is an infinite number of places between the 12 and the 1. That's not accuracy; that's precision. Nowadays both the clock with the digital display and the clock with the analog display are apt to have quartz crystal frequency reference and digital innards, and thus to be similarly accurate. == Robert A. Rosenberg == wrote 2008-08-09 06:29: At 11:43 AM -0500 on 8/6/08, Rick Fochtman wrote about Re: California's COBOL payroll system: When second-graders are permitted to use calculators for arithmetic I have a fantasy that when spinning wheels were introduced Luddites protested that their children would lose the skill of spinning yarn by hand and the deep understanding of the nature of yarn. I can neither spin yarn by hand nor by wheel, nor weave cloth, nor tailor my own clothing, nor plow my garden with oxen, nor hunt the wooly mammoth for food. I can do arithmetic by hand, or with a slide rule. But all these things must be displaced to accommodate more relevant topics in our educational curricula. Roman numerals and English weights and measures should be soon to go, though an erudite, now infrequent, contributor to this list is apt to protest. Roman numerals, abaci, Napier's Bones, slide rules and Curta calculators are topics for history of mathematics, not the mainstream. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: California's COBOL payroll system
Don Leahy wrote: I remember when I first taught my son how to use a wrench. I had to explain to him the difference between clockwise and counter-clockwise. It was not obvious to him because of digital clocks. You need to buy him a true digital clock, one where the numbers flip down. This will teach him that clockwise is down, and anti-clockwise is up G I've always preferred deasil and withershins. g Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, VT -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM managed initiators
Hi John, The WLM managed initiators are defined on a sysplex level. Once you tell JES that a particular class is WLM managed, it will run jobs on all (in our case both) system in the sysplex. We found this out the hard way. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: WLM managed initiators -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: WLM managed initiators Hi, We would like to use WLM managed initiators for some of our classes. The jobs running in these classes can only run on one of the systems in our sysplex. Is there a way to make sure that the jobs will run on oe system other that using /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=? TIA Gadi I'm not really very knowledgable about WLM initiators, but wouldn't it be possible to only tell the JES2 on a particular system to service a specific class? E.g. JES2 on SY1 has a JOBCLASS(C) MODE=WLM defination in it. JES2 on SY2 has JOBCLASS(C) MODE=JES and does not have any static initiators set up to service class C. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged and/or confidential. It is for intended addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other use of this communication is strictly prohibited and could, in certain circumstances, be a criminal offense. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender by reply and delete this message without copying or disclosing it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
WLM managed initiators
___ Note: This e-mail is subject to the disclaimer contained at the bottom of this message. ___ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: WLM managed initiators Hi, We would like to use WLM managed initiators for some of our classes. The jobs running in these classes can only run on one of the systems in our sysplex. Is there a way to make sure that the jobs will run on oe system other that using /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=? TIA Gadi What about a JES2 Command such as $TJOBCLASS(x),QAFF=sysname ? Thanks Regards, - Stephen Hall Mainframe Platform Manager Platform Support Services Technology Services INSURANCE AUSTRALIA GROUP (IAG) ___ The information transmitted in this message and its attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information, by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete this e-mail and associated material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this e-mail and any attached files, with the permission of the sender. This message has been scanned for viruses with Symantec Scan Engine and cleared by MailMarshal. ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: WLM managed initiators
Thanx. Unfortunatly, QAFF is not available on z/OS 1.7. It does work os z/OS 1.9. Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephen Hall Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 7:30 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: WLM managed initiators ___ Note: This e-mail is subject to the disclaimer contained at the bottom of this message. ___ -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ??? Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 3:16 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: WLM managed initiators Hi, We would like to use WLM managed initiators for some of our classes. The jobs running in these classes can only run on one of the systems in our sysplex. Is there a way to make sure that the jobs will run on oe system other that using /*JOBPARM SYSAFF=? TIA Gadi What about a JES2 Command such as $TJOBCLASS(x),QAFF=sysname ? Thanks Regards, - Stephen Hall Mainframe Platform Manager Platform Support Services Technology Services INSURANCE AUSTRALIA GROUP (IAG) ___ The information transmitted in this message and its attachments (if any) is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed. The message may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon this information, by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this in error, please contact the sender and delete this e-mail and associated material from any computer. The intended recipient of this e-mail may only use, reproduce, disclose or distribute the information contained in this e-mail and any attached files, with the permission of the sender. This message has been scanned for viruses with Symantec Scan Engine and cleared by MailMarshal. ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
IDCAMS REPRO and Linear datasets
Can IDCAMS REPRO command be used to copy LINEAR datasets? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
