Re: Subcapacity price model for CA

2008-11-17 Thread Walter Marguccio
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From: Greg Shirey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 14 November, 2008 17:55:47

 Essentially, we have a baseline MSU level with CA and we are invoiced
 annually based on that MSU for the year.  If the SCRT reports show we
 have exceed our MSU baseline, we are invoiced some amount per MSU over
 our base for each month we have exceeded the number.  We of course
 receive no credits for being under our baseline. 

Greg,

this is *exactly* what we were told during our last meeting with CA last 
December.

Thanks a lot (and to Tom Kelman) for your feedback.

Walter Marguccio
z/OS Systems Programmer
BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH
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Re: CA World in Las Vegas

2008-11-17 Thread Jousma, David
Will you be dressed like a cave-man?  :-)

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There will be a GEICO contingent there including me for the first time.


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Cancel tso id

2008-11-17 Thread Ron Thomas
Hello.

We are using SYSVIEW , many a times connections gets lost due to network 
problems and id gets locked. In SDSF we can purge the id from my my fellow's 
machine, here we need to call the helpdesk and do the same? is there any 
faclity here by which we can cancel the id?

Thanks,
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JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Ram Balaji
Hi All,

does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?



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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread R.S.

Ram Balaji wrote:

Hi All,

does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?


Yes.

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:34:20 +0100, R.S. wrote:

Ram Balaji wrote:
 Hi All,

 does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?

Yes.
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Indeed.  I have one also.  The OP might have told us
at least what OS controls the local drive, and what
file sharing mechanisms are available.

IBM supplies some examples here.  Hammer and file to fit:

   Linkname: Submitting FTP requests in batch
URL: 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b980/4.9

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Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread Phil Smith III
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WTF? Why couldn't they use a more modern drive with the 7-track feature?

I had that thought. My guess was that (as is always the case with stories about 
which I have domain knowledge) the real story is that they couldn't find one 
*in Australia*. Or didn't try very hard. Or didn't know about it.

I can't believe IBM Sterling Forest doesn't have such a drive, for example; 
they have everything else.

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Re: GDG QUESTION

2008-11-17 Thread Hillock, Timothy
G'day.

If you are acessing the new file in the same JCL,  the DD statement
should look like: DUMPIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR(+1).

If it's in another jcl then:
 DUMPIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR(+0).

To access a one the previous generations then use (-1) or (-2) or (-3)
or
 (-4).  A minus 5 is invalid as you only have 5 generations and the most
current starts off a 0.

Tim Hillock
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Hi Howard,

I noted that Linda supplied the required answer to your query about:

The executing job has the following DD in the JCL:

DUMPIN   DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR
and the resulting error is:

IEF212I E18823X PST0010 STEP01 DUMPIN - DATA SET NOT FOUND

Can some one tell me what I'm doing wrong?  It's some thing but I just
can't
see the problem.

I WOULD ADD however that your DD statement above is valid if the GDG has
associated data sets. Simply coding the base entry name on a DD
statement is
a means of processing ALL the generations of a GDG without resorting to
concatenated DD statements for each generation.

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ram Balaji wrote:

does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?

Perhaps...
Probably what I have could be useful... 

'Upload'? From what perspective? From 'Mainframe' or from 'Local drive'?

What PS file? (There are no such thing like PS file, on z/OS there are PS data 
sets)

What Mainframe? (z/OS, OS/390, MVS/ESA, MVS/XA, OS360? )

Where is that 'Local drive'? (unix, windoze, as/400, dos?)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

PS: Thanks for the excellent hint, Radoslaw... :-D

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Ram Balaji
Hi Elardus Engelbrecht,

ps--? Flat file
Upload? From mainframe to Local drive
Mainframe---? OS/390
Local drive---? windows



Regards,
Ram Balaji.S.
(Dying Hard to explore MainFrames)


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Subject: Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive



Ram Balaji wrote:

does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?

Perhaps...
Probably what I have could be useful... 

'Upload'? From what perspective? From 'Mainframe' or from 'Local drive'?

What PS file? (There are no such thing like PS file, on z/OS there are PS data 
sets)

What Mainframe? (z/OS, OS/390, MVS/ESA, MVS/XA, OS360? )

Where is that 'Local drive'? (unix, windoze, as/400, dos?)

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

PS: Thanks for the excellent hint, Radoslaw... :-D

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Ram Balaji
Hi Radoslaw Skorupka,

Thanks for the reply.Its working fine.


Regards,
Ram Balaji.S.
(Dying Hard to explore MainFrames)


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Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 7:28 pm
Subject: Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive



On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:34:20 +0100, R.S. wrote:

Ram Balaji wrote:
 Hi All,

 does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?

Yes.
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P.S. I couldn't resist...

Indeed.  I have one also.  The OP might have told us
at least what OS controls the local drive, and what
file sharing mechanisms are available.

IBM supplies some examples here.  Hammer and file to fit:

   Linkname: Submitting FTP requests in batch
URL: 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a1b980/4.9

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:18:38 -0500, Ram Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Elardus Engelbrecht,

ps--? Flat file
Upload? From mainframe to Local drive
Mainframe---? OS/390
Local drive---? windows

Regards,
Ram Balaji.S.
(Dying Hard to explore MainFrames)

There are many possibilities. However, they all require special
implementation. One way is to have a ftp server on your Windows machine.
This is generally not done for desktops. It, generally, requires that IIS be
installed because the Microsoft ftp server is a part of IIS.

Another possibility is to use NFS. However, this requires that an NFS server
be installed on your Windows machine (again unlikely) and that it be
mounted onto the z/OS system (again unlikely).

Have you looked at ISPF's WSA. I'm not familiar with WSA, but others have
used it successfully. But I don't know if it can be used in batch. It
requires installation of a client on your Windows machine.

What I'm really getting at is that every solution that I know of to do this
requires installation of non standard software on your Windows machine.

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2008-11-17 Thread Ram Balaji
Hi all,

Can anyone provide me pdsm(partiotion dataset manager) document or link. 


Regards,
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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Ram Balaji
Thanks John..


Regards,
Ram Balaji.S.
(Dying Hard to explore MainFrames)


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Sent: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive



On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:18:38 -0500, Ram Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Elardus Engelbrecht,

ps--? Flat file
Upload? From mainframe to Local drive
Mainframe---? OS/390
Local drive---? windows

Regards,
Ram Balaji.S.
(Dying Hard to explore MainFrames)

There are many possibilities. However, they all require special
implementation. One way is to have a ftp server on your Windows machine.
This is generally not done for desktops. It, generally, requires that IIS be
installed because the Microsoft ftp server is a part of IIS.

Another possibility is to use NFS. However, this requires that an NFS server
be installed on your Windows machine (again unlikely) and that it be
mounted onto the z/OS system (again unlikely).

Have you looked at ISPF's WSA. I'm not familiar with WSA, but others have
used it successfully. But I don't know if it can be used in batch. It
requires installation of a client on your Windows machine.

What I'm really getting at is that every solution that I know of to do this
requires installation of non standard software on your Windows machine.

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Salt
In addition to using JCL, you can also transfer files to or from the PC using 
ISPF option 3.7.2. 
 
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 Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:25:38 -0500
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 Subject: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive
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 Hi All,
 
 does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive...?
 
 
 
 Regards,
 Ram Balaji.S.
 
 
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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:27:17 -0600, John McKown wrote:

This is generally not done for desktops. It, generally, requires that IIS be
installed because the Microsoft ftp server is a part of IIS.

What I'm really getting at is that every solution that I know of to do this
requires installation of non standard software on your Windows machine.

And who said he had a Windows machine?

On my MacBook, all I need to do is open System Preferences and
enable FTP access.

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Vernooy, C.P. - SPLXM

In addition to that, every 3270 terminal emulator I know has the
up/download to/from host option.

Kees.


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  Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:25:38 -0500
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  To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
  
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  does anyone have a JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local
drive...?
  
  
  
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Re: GDG QUESTION

2008-11-17 Thread J R
 Simply coding the base entry name on a DD statement is a 
 means of processing ALL the generations of a GDG without 
 resorting to concatenated DD statements for each generation.  
 
Instead, the system resorts to concatenated DD statements 
on your behalf, albeit in reverse chronological sequence.  
 
 Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:34:42 +
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: GDG QUESTION
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
 
 Hi Howard,
 
 I noted that Linda supplied the required answer to your query about:
 
 The executing job has the following DD in the JCL:
 
 DUMPIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=PCYC.TMVHSTM.TMVS04.IRR
 and the resulting error is:
 
 IEF212I E18823X PST0010 STEP01 DUMPIN - DATA SET NOT FOUND
 
 Can some one tell me what I'm doing wrong? It's some thing but I just can't
 see the problem.
 
 I WOULD ADD however that your DD statement above is valid if the GDG has
 associated data sets. Simply coding the base entry name on a DD statement is
 a means of processing ALL the generations of a GDG without resorting to
 concatenated DD statements for each generation.
 
 Kind regards - Terry 
 
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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Dave Salt
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 Have you looked at ISPF's WSA. I'm not familiar with WSA, but others have
 used it successfully. But I don't know if it can be used in batch.
 
Yes, the WSA can be used in batch. 
 
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Re: Resetting SPOOL OFFLOAD archive ?

2008-11-17 Thread Dennis Trojak
Linda,
If you check the $TJOB command there is an operand called OFFS= which
is used to set/reset any of the offload indicator(s).
Dennis

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Thanks, Ken.  I'll give it a test next week.  Are you able to overtype
that field on your system?  I can't on mine.

Linda Mooney

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 Actually I think there is a way to reset the offload status. 
 
 If you look in SDSF O and scroll over a couple of pages there is a
field 
 called Status. 
 IIRC after an Offload operation it will change to System from User. 
 
 Of course I may be mistaken, it has been a long time since I mucked 
 around with this. 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
 Behalf Of Linda Mooney 
 Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 4:58 PM 
 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 
 Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Resetting SPOOL OFFLOAD archive ? 
 
 Tiola, 
 
 Whoa, we have a different perspective on this. Mine is based on nearly

 20 years of offload experience and I have often done offloads for a 
 number of different purposes. You yourself said that you were new and 
 you asked for help. Your comments are inacurate, and just because 
 something that you are trying to learn about is complex does not
suggest 
 that ranting about the design or the vendor is appropriate or
reasonable 
 IMHO. 
 
 OFFLOAD is no where close to being as limited as you describe it. My 
 statement that I know of no way to reset the indicators means exactly 
 that - I know of no way. I also have never had the need or desire to 
 reset them. They have a purpose and a function that I find beneficial.

 I personally have not had a need to dynamically define an OFFLOAD. I
do 
 not know if that can be done - which is what I said. I have several 
 OFFLOADs defined in my JES parms, one to handle a regularly scheduled 
 production process and others that can be set up and used as needed. 
 
 If you took offense at my response (either one), I would ask only that

 you remember that all I know about you is what you presented in your 
 post and on that basis I wrote my attempt at assistance. OFFLOAD is a 
 powerful and useful tool, but one that, IMO, takes some work and study

 to learn to use and appreciate. 
 
 Linda Mooney 
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  Thanks Linda for your suggestions. This is a fairly small shop and
if 
  I look for the JES sysprog, I'd probably end up finding myself. I'll

  be careful with my actions. 
  
  Your statement: I know of no way to reset the output indicators. 
  confirms other similar statements I've found browsing through the 
  internet. However, I've not been able to find an authoritative 
  source(IBM), document or manual to confirm. 
  
  I just find it really odd that this would be the case. If OFFLOAD is

  an irrersable process, shouldn't it be documented as such or at
least 
  some warning. I feel like OFFLOADING is like deleting a dataset 
  without asking for a confirmation. I know its possible to offload to

  another transmitter, but even with that its limited to 8 tries and
you 
 
  have to have them set-up before hand, (I don't think they can be 
  created dynamically?). If you expire all 8 tries then its stuck in 
  SPOOL land forever and noway to OFFLOAD. 
  
  This is strange for a platform that prides itself in RAS
(reliability, 
 
  availability  
  serviceability) and everything from hardware to software is built on

  fault- tollerant. To have SPOOL OFFLOAD as a one-way ticket to 
  somewhere does seem to fit in with z-series model. Does IBM monitor 
 this list? 
  
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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:14:00 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:

What PS file? (There are no such thing like PS file, on z/OS there are PS data
sets)

???

Where have you been for the past decade or more?

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:132$ uname -a
OS/390 ECCY 19.00 03 2094

... I call that z/OS.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:133$ file PostScript/ppst56/PPST56.PS
PostScript/ppst56/PPST56.PS:Generic PostScript file Level 2 PostScript 
file

... And that looks like a file to me.  And, yes, it is
accessible with JCL, using //SYSUT1 DD PATH='...'.

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Ram Balaji wrote:

ps--? Flat file
Upload? From mainframe to Local drive
Mainframe---? OS/390
Local drive---? windows

I don't have any OS/390 JCL ... really ;-D

From z/OS to windoze (NT/XP) you could try this:

//FTP  EXEC PGM=FTP,PARM='windoze ip (EXIT '
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 
//SYSPUT   DD SYSOUT=*,DCB=BLKSIZE=133
//SYSINDD * 
?windoze id?
?windoze id psw?

cd 'directory\directory\more directory'

put 'your.first.dsn.ps' FILE ONE ON WINDOZE.TXT  
put 'your.second.dsn.ps' FILE TWO ON WINDOZE.TXT  
/*

I'm a$$uming you're using standard translation from EBCDIC to ASCII and 
your 'flat file' is just your standard RECFM=FB and LRECL0 datasets...

Provided you can setup your windoze IP address to be visible from your z/OS 
machine and that you setup your windoze machine properly. Check your 
antivirus and firewalls for blocking/allowing ports 20 or 21 or whatever you're 
using.

Groete / Greetings
Elardus Engelbrecht

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Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-17 Thread Bill Seubert
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:42:31 -0500, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

OK, OK - you (and IBM) win!  ...

Tony, to the best of my knowledge, no one in IBM System z marketing, or for
that matter, anyone with significant knowledge of the technical aspects of
System z, has made official, public statements about specialty processors
being features to boost performance.  There may be a well-meaning sales rep
or specialist or press person out there who does not have a full
understanding of the hardware who have made that claim, but it should not
have been an official IBM claim.

As has already been stated, there is one notable exception to the Specialty
engines are not performance enhancers rule - machines that run at
subcapacity.  If you have a box that doesn't run at the fully-rated uni
speed, a specialty engine will provide better performance.

There's one other performance benefit, but it is a roundabout way of
claiming that the specialty engine provides improved performance - if one
were to install a zIIP or zAAP and relieve the general purpose CP pool of a
CPU bottleneck, then that would indirectly result in a performance benefit
by offloading Java and/or other MIPS and relieving the constraint on the
GPs.  Thus you got cheaper MIPS with the zAAP/zIIP and fixed a performance
bottleneck.  But that's obviously stretching things...

FWIW.


Bill Seubert
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IBM Corp
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Re: CR+ / T-Rex

2008-11-17 Thread Bond, Richard
The legendary catalog Solutions is still available through EMC (used to be 
Softworks).  We have it and I highly recommend it over CR+.  I haven't had the 
opportunity to use T-Rex but based on CSL, it must be good.

Dick Bond
HFHS Mainframe Administration

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 We are a z/OS V1R7 shop (going to z/OS V1R9) with the 4th largest Bank in
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 The developers of T-Rex are the same people who wrote the legendary
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 When trying out and testing T-Rex, we found the developers very responsive
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 In short:  The product is excellent, and the support is excellent.
 
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Re: Cancel tso id

2008-11-17 Thread Z1

In SDSF your only option would have been to Cancel the TSO user.

Is it really a TSO user you are trying to cancel? In SYSVIEW the user 
could be using the ISPF/CICS/Roscoe/VTAM interface. Any of these 
interfaces could be used to cancel a TSO user if thats the interface 
being used. I also think there is also SYSVIEW command that allows you 
to cancel a user on a specific interface (I havent used SYSVIEW for a 
few years). Your SYSVIEW or RACF administraor could have setup SYSVIEW 
to restrict operator commands. What message are you getting when you try 
to cancel the user?


If you have TSO OPER authority you can also try OPER then C U=xxx from 
TSO READY or a command prompt.


Tony.

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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Elardus Engelbrecht
Paul Gilmartin wrote:

Where have you been for the past decade or more?

Hmmm, good question, now you're asking me, I'm sorta confused ;-D
Oh yes, playing on earth with my favourite z/OS. :)
What about you, you still here ... ;-D

accessible with JCL, using //SYSUT1 DD PATH='...'.

I already know that. I just replied first to get the wording straight. You are 
certainly aware that people don't always get their terminology correct in their 
first posts. I also don't want to post an example in vain.

Groete / Greetings
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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:35:16 -0600, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:27:17 -0600, John McKown wrote:

This is generally not done for desktops. It, generally, requires that IIS be
installed because the Microsoft ftp server is a part of IIS.

What I'm really getting at is that every solution that I know of to do this
requires installation of non standard software on your Windows machine.

And who said he had a Windows machine?

He did. In the message to which I replied and which was quoted in my reply:

local drive: windows.

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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Field, Alan C.
When they changed to screen so that you had to do two searches because
they split the searchable databases we complained (by providing feedback
through the link on the site). 

There was enough noise that it got put back. 

We should do the same in this case. I only looked at one ETR after the
change this weekend and just about gave up on it. :)

Alan   

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Now, who has decreed that either one has to 

1.) click at least three times more to see the actual ETR content or
2.) be content to see about 8 lines of a 45689 line ETR due to the small
window that shows the actual content
-
IBMs web clickers in their infinite wisdom?
-
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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Jousma, David
I did a IBMLINK Feedback on this issue.  We'll see what happens.
Probably the more that take the 5 minutes to do so, will get this
fixed

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Subject: Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

When they changed to screen so that you had to do two searches because
they split the searchable databases we complained (by providing feedback
through the link on the site). 

There was enough noise that it got put back. 

We should do the same in this case. I only looked at one ETR after the
change this weekend and just about gave up on it. :)

Alan   

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Now, who has decreed that either one has to 

1.) click at least three times more to see the actual ETR content or
2.) be content to see about 8 lines of a 45689 line ETR due to the small
window that shows the actual content
-
IBMs web clickers in their infinite wisdom?
-
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Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-17 Thread Cheryl Walker
I usually stress that adding zIIPs and zAAPs provides a performance  
benefit for both of the reasons that Bill mentions below.  The most  
significant for everyone is the second benefit (reducing the strain on  
the CPs).  But you need to realize that the 'notable exception' is  
getting to be the rule.  For example, the z10-BC zIIP/zAAP is the  
speed of a z01 (about 700 MIPS) for all 130 models, including the A01  
(30 MIPS for a UP).  If you were running DB2 on an A01, wouldn't you  
prefer to run DB2 on a 700 MIPS zIIP than a 30 MIPS CP?  I think it's  
a no-brainer, especially since the cost of the specialty processors is  
lower than the regular CPs.


Be sure to run WSC's zPCR to determine what you can expect to see in  
your installation.


Cheryl
On Nov 17, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Bill Seubert wrote:

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:42:31 -0500, Tony Harminc [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:



OK, OK - you (and IBM) win!  ...


Tony, to the best of my knowledge, no one in IBM System z marketing,  
or for
that matter, anyone with significant knowledge of the technical  
aspects of
System z, has made official, public statements about specialty  
processors
being features to boost performance.  There may be a well-meaning  
sales rep

or specialist or press person out there who does not have a full
understanding of the hardware who have made that claim, but it should  
not

have been an official IBM claim.

As has already been stated, there is one notable exception to the  
Specialty

engines are not performance enhancers rule - machines that run at
subcapacity.  If you have a box that doesn't run at the fully-rated uni
speed, a specialty engine will provide better performance.

There's one other performance benefit, but it is a roundabout way of
claiming that the specialty engine provides improved performance - if  
one
were to install a zIIP or zAAP and relieve the general purpose CP pool  
of a
CPU bottleneck, then that would indirectly result in a performance  
benefit

by offloading Java and/or other MIPS and relieving the constraint on the
GPs.  Thus you got cheaper MIPS with the zAAP/zIIP and fixed a  
performance

bottleneck.  But that's obviously stretching things...

FWIW.


Bill Seubert
System z I/T Architect
IBM Corp
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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
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Behalf Of Field, Alan C.
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 9:34 AM
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Subject: Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

When they changed to screen so that you had to do two searches because
they split the searchable databases we complained (by providing feedback
through the link on the site). 

There was enough noise that it got put back. 

We should do the same in this case. I only looked at one ETR after the
change this weekend and just about gave up on it. :)

Alan   

SNIP

I have. 

I have just gotten a response and they said:

The change was part of the new Release of ServiceLink.

I have made the ServiceLink management team aware of your issue with the
change to ETR.

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread John Kelly
I also did a 'feedback'. Whomever IBM has in India updating ServLink 
should have to use it before 'designing' changes.

Jack Kelly
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Probably the more that take the 5 minutes to do so, will get this
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When they changed to screen so that you had to do two searches because
they split the searchable databases we complained (by providing feedback
through the link on the site). 

There was enough noise that it got put back. 

We should do the same in this case. I only looked at one ETR after the
change this weekend and just about gave up on it. :)

Alan 

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Subject: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

Now, who has decreed that either one has to 

1.) click at least three times more to see the actual ETR content or
2.) be content to see about 8 lines of a 45689 line ETR due to the small
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IBMs web clickers in their infinite wisdom?
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Re: Test...Please Acknowledge.

2008-11-17 Thread Bates, Bill (RMV)
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Re: HCD setup of CSS1 for PAV Aliases

2008-11-17 Thread John Kelly
snip
you are trying to move your DASD alias addresses from SS0 to SS1, you 
don't need to define another CSS
unsnip
John, thanks a million too. I did get hung up about 'assuming that I had 
to defined the SS1 to use it'..
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Partition dataset manager

2008-11-17 Thread Ram Balaji
Hi all,

Can anyone provide me pdsm(partiotion dataset manager) document or link. 


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Re: Partition dataset manager

2008-11-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
Can you explain what you are trying to do?  
Are you looking for Backup/Recovery?  Allocation, Cleanup?  

I have not heard of a product called a PDS Manager.  There are many products 
that can assist in the support of PDS datasets like DFHSM, PDSMAN by CA, and a 
few others.  Some are freeware, some are vendor products.

Lizette




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Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
Will any of the more modern drives handle the appropriate density? I'm 
not sure: will a 7-track 3420 handle 200 BPI? or 556 BPI?


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Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:


In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 11/16/2008
  at 10:44 AM, Ed Gould [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

 


Thankfully the tapes stored at Sydney University were still available;
however, what was not readily available was a IBM 729 Mark V tape drive
needed to read the data.
   



WTF? Why couldn't they use a more modern drive with the 7-track feature?

 



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Re: Partition dataset manager

2008-11-17 Thread Rick Fochtman
What PDS manager are you refering to? We need much more information 
before we can formulate a meaningful reply. I personally don't know of a 
product named PDSM.


Ram Balaji wrote:


Hi all,

Can anyone provide me pdsm(partiotion dataset manager) document or link. 



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Inability to read stored data was Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread Clark Morris
On 16 Nov 2008 18:05:16 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:

Sounds like the govt..store data that cant be retrieved...and no backup...
Saw the same thing at a State Agency

While at a Year 2000 session, I raised the question of having the
programs able to read archived data.  One participant claimed that the
legal requirement was only to have the data and that there was no
requirement to be able to read it.  How many of your organizations
keep old record layouts / data base descriptions to match archived
tapes?  Can the 7 or 10 year old tape be read logically with all
fields identified?

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Thankfully the tapes stored at Sydney University were still available;
however, what was not readily available was a IBM 729 Mark V tape drive
needed to read the data.

WTF? Why couldn't they use a more modern drive with the 7-track feature?
 

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Re: concatenations, again

2008-11-17 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:47:06 +0100, Hunkeler Peter (KIUK 3) 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I had an example in my post where 3 libraries where defined
through one //OWNSYSLB DD. Isn't this what you're talking about?

You can concatenate many PDSs, PDSEs and even UNIX directories
with a single DD (The actual number depends on the mix and on the
number of extents of the PDSs. See DFSMS Using Data Sets for the
exact rule.)

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, that does not work.  Take this for 
example:

//IGYWCPROC LNGPRFX='IGY.V3R3M0',SYSLBLK=3200
//COBOLEXEC PGM=IGYCRCTL,REGION=2048K
//STEPLIB  DD  DSNAME=LNGPRFX..SIGYCOMP,
// DISP=SHR  
//SYSLIB   DD  DDNAME=OWNSYSLB   
// DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=APPL.PROD.COPYLIB
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*  
//SYSLIN   DD  DSNAME=amp;LOADSET,UNIT=SYSALLDA,   
// DISP=(MOD,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,(3,3)),
// DCB=(BLKSIZE=SYSLBLK)
//SYSUT1   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//SYSUT2   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//SYSUT3   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//SYSUT4   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//SYSUT5   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//SYSUT6   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//SYSUT7   DD  UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1))   
//OWNSYSLB DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=FJS.DUMMY.PDS
// PEND  

//S1   EXEC PROC=IGYWC,LNGPRFX=IGY
//COBOL.SYSIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FJS.PDSE.COBOL(OBJ1)
//OWNSYSLB DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FJS.PDSE.COBOL 
// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FJS.TEST.COBOL 

This results in the following:
COMPILE COBOL S1 - STEP WAS EXECUTED - COND CODE 0012
  IGY.SIGYCOMP KEPT  
  VOL SER NOS= DEVR80.   
FJS.PDSE.COBOL   RETAINED,  DDNAME=SYSLIB
APPL.PROD.COPYLIBRETAINED,  DDNAME=  
  FJS.COMPILE.JOB04619.D101.?  SYSOUT
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100121  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT1
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100122  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT2
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100123  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT3
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100124  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT4
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100125  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT5
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100126  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT6
SYS08322.T095124.RA000.COMPILE.R0100127  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT7
FJS.TEST.COBOL   RETAINED,  DDNAME=  
FJS.PDSE.COBOL   RETAINED,  DDNAME=SYSIN 

As you can see, the second DD I included in OWNSYSLB 
(specifically 'FJS.TEST.COBOL') is concatenated to the end of SYSUT7, rather 
than as part of SYSLIB between FJS.PDSE.COBOL and APPL.PROD.COPYLIB 
(which is what is desired).

I can move the placement of OWNSYSLB in the proc to immediately after 
SYSLIB.  This almost works.  It concatenates them as follows:

FJS.PDSE.COBOL   RETAINED,  DDNAME=SYSLIB
APPL.PROD.COPYLIBRETAINED,  DDNAME=  
FJS.TEST.COBOL   RETAINED,  DDNAME=  
  FJS.COMPILE.JOB04617.D101.?  SYSOUT
SYS08322.T094502.RA000.COMPILE.R0100103  DELETED,   
DDNAME=SYSUT1
...

But even here FJS.TEST.COBOL is ending up after APPL.PROD.COPYLIB, where 
I really need it to be before.

Let me know if it looks like I am still not properly following your example.

Thanks!
Frank

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Re: Inability to read stored data was Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread R.S.

Clark Morris wrote:
[...]

While at a Year 2000 session, I raised the question of having the
programs able to read archived data.  One participant claimed that the
legal requirement was only to have the data and that there was no
requirement to be able to read it.


Interesting approach g. In fact it could be legislative hole, 
because the intent is obvious: the data is kept to have possibility of 
reading it.


BTW: that's why regular backup usually cannot be archive copy - maybe 
few versions ahead tool won't be able to read it. If it will be able, 
then maybe the application won't be able to access old data format. And 
the old version of application cannot run on current system. And the old 
system cannot work on current hardware. Sometimes as the least common 
denominator (or simply most popular format) is TXT file.
Example: OS/390 2.6, DB2 V4. I can read the tapes with backup (still 
have tape drives), likely (I'm not sure) my current DFHSM will read the 
backups, but - will DB2 v9 read imagecopies (or tablespace dump) from 
DB2 v4 ? Will DB2 v4 run on z/OS 1.10 ? Will OS/390 2.6 run on z10 ?
And this is only approx. 10 years on the best platform in terms of 
compatibility.


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Re: concatenations, again

2008-11-17 Thread Frank Swarbrick
On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 08:25:18 -, Terry Sambrooks 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi Frank,

In answer to your query about the default UNIT and SPACE in the following:
[deleted]

If the output listing is checked it might help explain what has happened.
The SYSUT1 override should appear ahead of its equivalent within the
procedure indicating that an override has indeed taken place. The actual
override statement supplied does not specify any parameter therefore it does
not affect any existing parameter nor does it and any new ones. THEREFORE
THE DEFAULTS ARE WHAT ARE CODED ON THE STATEMENT WITHIN THE 
PROCEDURE.

As indicated in an earlier posting, null override statements are permitted
to allow correct positioning within a concatenation. In the above example
SYSUT1 has been treated as the first statement of a concatenation override
even though there is no concatenation.

Whilst Tom's comments about SMS are generically true, they do not apply in
this case as the required information is supplied via a DD statement, albeit
the one in the procedure, NOT THE OVERRIDE.

Hi Terry,

This latest question has not to do with null override DD statements.  It had to 
do with null DD statements within the procedure itself.  Specifically:

//IGYWCPROC LNGPRFX='IGY.V3R3M0',SYSLBLK=3200
//COBOLEXEC PGM=IGYCRCTL,REGION=2048K
//STEPLIB  DD  DSNAME=LNGPRFX..SIGYCOMP,
// DISP=SHR  
//SYSLIB   DD  DISP=SHR,DSN=APPL.PROD.COPYLIB
//SYSPRINT DD  SYSOUT=*  
//SYSLIN   DD  DSNAME=amp;LOADSET,UNIT=SYSALLDA,   
// DISP=(MOD,PASS),SPACE=(TRK,(3,3)),
// DCB=(BLKSIZE=SYSLBLK)
//SYSUT1   DD
//SYSUT2   DD
//SYSUT3   DD
//SYSUT4   DD
//SYSUT5   DD
//SYSUT6   DD
//SYSUT7   DD
// PEND  

My execution of the proc is simply:
//S1   EXEC PROC=IGYWC,LNGPRFX=IGY
//COBOL.SYSIN DD DISP=SHR,DSN=FJS.PDSE.COBOL(OBJ1)

This works, in that all of the SYSUTx DD's seem to have some sort of default 
space allocation.  I was just wondering what sort of space allocation it was 
defaulting to.  (I have not yet checked with my systems programmers.)

Frank

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Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-17 Thread Cheryl Watson
I usually point out to my customers that adding zIIPs and zAAPs  
provides a performance benefit for both of the reasons that Bill  
mentions below.  The most significant for everyone is the second  
benefit (reducing the strain on the CPs).  But you need to realize  
that the 'notable exception' is getting to be the rule.  For example,  
the z10-BC zIIP/zAAP is the speed of a z01 (about 700 MIPS) for all  
130 models, including the A01 (30 MIPS for a UP).  If you were running  
DB2 on an A01, wouldn't you prefer to run DB2 on a 700 MIPS zIIP than  
a 30 MIPS CP?  I think it's a no-brainer, especially since the cost of  
the specialty processors is lower than the regular CPs.


Be sure to run WSC's zPCR to determine what you can expect to see in  
your installation.


Cheryl

On Nov 17, 2008, at 9:52 AM, Bill Seubert wrote:

Tony, to the best of my knowledge, no one in IBM System z marketing,  
or for
that matter, anyone with significant knowledge of the technical  
aspects of
System z, has made official, public statements about specialty  
processors
being features to boost performance.  There may be a well-meaning  
sales rep

or specialist or press person out there who does not have a full
understanding of the hardware who have made that claim, but it should  
not

have been an official IBM claim.

As has already been stated, there is one notable exception to the  
Specialty

engines are not performance enhancers rule - machines that run at
subcapacity.  If you have a box that doesn't run at the fully-rated uni
speed, a specialty engine will provide better performance.

There's one other performance benefit, but it is a roundabout way of
claiming that the specialty engine provides improved performance - if  
one
were to install a zIIP or zAAP and relieve the general purpose CP pool  
of a
CPU bottleneck, then that would indirectly result in a performance  
benefit

by offloading Java and/or other MIPS and relieving the constraint on the
GPs.  Thus you got cheaper MIPS with the zAAP/zIIP and fixed a  
performance

bottleneck.  But that's obviously stretching things...

FWIW.


Bill Seubert
System z I/T Architect
IBM Corp
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Re: Inability to read stored data was Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
While at a Year 2000 session, I raised the question of having the programs 
able to read archived data.  One participant claimed that the legal 
requirement was only to have the data and that there was no requirement to be 
able to read it.

I think you got bad advice.
I used to work for a Canadian bank, and not only did we have to keep the data, 
we had to be able to produce it in a form capable of understanding by the 
courts.

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Re: Inability to read stored data was Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 17:29:29 +, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

While at a Year 2000 session, I raised the question of having the programs
able to read archived data.  One participant claimed that the legal
requirement was only to have the data and that there was no requirement to
be able to read it.

I think you got bad advice.
I used to work for a Canadian bank, and not only did we have to keep the
data, we had to be able to produce it in a form capable of understanding by
the courts.


Boy, I could make a snide reply here. But maybe the Canadian courts are
smarter than the ones down here. 

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Re: Inability to read stored data was Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Boy, I could make a snide reply here. But maybe the Canadian courts are 
smarter than the ones down here. 

Probably not.
Maybe I should have said:
Better than a dump of the dataset.

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Re: Partition dataset manager

2008-11-17 Thread Big Iron
There is a product called PDS Manager described at
http://www.tcpip4vse.com/products/zos/PDS-Manager_zos/PDS-Manager_zos.htm

However, there is also something called PDSMAN from CA (PDS Library
Management):
 http://www.ca.com/us/products/product.aspx?id=1434
as well as the PDS command (from the cbttape)
  http://www.cbttape.org/freepds.htm

Bill

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:15:46 -0500, Ram Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi all,

Can anyone provide me pdsm() document or link.


Regards,
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Re: Partition dataset manager

2008-11-17 Thread Don Leahy
There is also a product called SimpList,
www.mackinney.com/products/SIM/simplist.htm but it is more of a
general purpose productivity tool than a PDS manager per se.  (If you
are new to mainframes, as your signature line implies, then SimpList
would be a big help to you.)

On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:15 AM, Ram Balaji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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 Can anyone provide me pdsm(partiotion dataset manager) document or link.


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Re: JCL to upload PS file from Mainframe to Local drive

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:08:39 -0600, Elardus Engelbrecht wrote:

Oh yes, playing on earth with my favourite z/OS. :)

Ah, but z/OS has many enhancements over MVS/XA (the
last MVS not to have files.  TSO tries to fake it.)

What about you, you still here ... ;-D

You've been following the business news too closely.
I'm OK, so far.

accessible with JCL, using //SYSUT1 DD PATH='...'.

I already know that. I just replied first to get the wording straight. You are
certainly aware that people don't always get their terminology correct in their
first posts. I also don't want to post an example in vain.

Perhaps a prudent judgment given the sketchy character
of the initial ply.

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new tape drive question

2008-11-17 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
List,

 

We're in the process of implementing some TS1120 tape drives on our z/OS
system.  These will sit next to our 3590s.  I don't know if I'm missing
something obvious or if there's something I need to do to make this
work.  Here's the situation - which I know many of you have already
encountered and successfully navigated.

 

The 3590 tape drives and the 3592/TS1120 drives share the same device
type that of UNIT=3590 with an allocation device type of 78048083.  I
have set up esoterics to differentiate between the two.  I use UNIT=MAGS
to point to the 3590s and UNIT=TS1120 to point to them.  This will work
fine for differentiating on a new allocation, but what happens when I
want to get at an existing dataset on a tape?  With the same device type
on both tape drives, I can see the system requesting a TS1120 drive to
load a 3590 tape because the system doesn't know the difference.

 

How do I differentiate between the two on an existing allocation?

 

Thanks.

 

Rex

 


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Re: new tape drive question

2008-11-17 Thread John McKown
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:39 -0600, Pommier, Rex R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

List,

We're in the process of implementing some TS1120 tape drives on our z/OS
system.  These will sit next to our 3590s.  I don't know if I'm missing
something obvious or if there's something I need to do to make this
work.  Here's the situation - which I know many of you have already
encountered and successfully navigated.

The 3590 tape drives and the 3592/TS1120 drives share the same device
type that of UNIT=3590 with an allocation device type of 78048083.  I
have set up esoterics to differentiate between the two.  I use UNIT=MAGS
to point to the 3590s and UNIT=TS1120 to point to them.  This will work
fine for differentiating on a new allocation, but what happens when I
want to get at an existing dataset on a tape?  With the same device type
on both tape drives, I can see the system requesting a TS1120 drive to
load a 3590 tape because the system doesn't know the difference.

How do I differentiate between the two on an existing allocation?

Thanks.

Rex

The only way that I can think of is to put the new tapes in a tape
library. Now, if you're using an ATL, then make one library for the old
drives and another library for the new drives. If the new drives are not in
a library, then create a new library (and storage group) for the new drives.
Change the IODF to say that the TS1120s are in a Manual Tape Library (MTL)
and simply make up a LIBRARY-ID and LIBPORT-ID which doesn't conflict with
anything else in the IODF. Also create a new storage class. In the storage
class ACS routine, look for UNIT=TS1120 and assign the new storage class to
the allocation. In the storage group ACS routine, look for the new storage
class and assign it to a new storage group. Use ISMF to create a tape
library with the LIBRARY-ID and associate it with the new storage group.

Now, when z/OS detects that the volume serial to be mounted is defined in
OAM as being in the MTL, it will ask that the volume be mounted on one of
the drives assigned to the MTL (one of the new drives).

I cannot think of any other way to do this.

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PROJECTCPU, Vendors and SRBs

2008-11-17 Thread Lizette Koehler
I had posted a query on the MXG list about reporting on zIIP usage via the 
PROJECTCPU function in IEAOPT.

I got a wonderful response back from Al Sherkow.  One of the points he made 
surprised me a bit.

Apparently if there are no zIIP or zAAP engines, some ISVs will not make their 
SRB's eligible and therefore will not be collected by the PROJECTCPU.

He also stated that Kathy Walsh had discussed this at the z/OS Expo in Oct 2008.

Does anyone else have any input on which vendors (I think Syncsort was 
mentioned) that might not schedule their SRBs to be eligible for zIIP or zAAP 
processing because a zIIP or zAAP is not present?  Or have any other gottcha's 
with PROJECTCPU?


Lizette

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Re: Inability to read stored data was Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 12:44:07 -0400, Clark Morris 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

...
While at a Year 2000 session, I raised the question of having the
programs able to read archived data.  ...
 How many of your organizations
keep old record layouts / data base descriptions to match archived
tapes?  Can the 7 or 10 year old tape be read logically with all
fields identified?
...

Potential problems at may levels.
  The logical record layout that you mentioned.
  The physical record layout (if this is a database unload, etc.).
  The equipment needed to read the medium.
  The integrity of the physical medium. 

That last issue might not be a problem for 7 - 10 year old media
but it could be real (reel?) problem for the NASA tapes in the other
thread.  They may get one chance to read the tapes.  After that
they've got a pile of magnetic dust at the bottom of the tape drive's
vacuum columns.

Scribes transcribing Greek or Latin texts in ink on parchment 
may not have had the benefit of error correcting algorithms, but 
they used durable media and encoding techniques that can still
be read and decyphered (by those that can read ancient Greek
and Latin).  It's a good thing Aeschylus didn't use a PC with a CD
burner. 

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Re: new tape drive question

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Rowe
John is almost right, but you will only need one manual library.  Once a tape 
is SMS managed, he can tell the difference between the different tape 
technologies.
 
I have done exactly what you are doing.  If you want to talk offline, I'll be 
happy to help.
 
Scott Rowe

 John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2008 4:08 PM 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:39 -0600, Pommier, Rex R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

List,

We're in the process of implementing some TS1120 tape drives on our z/OS
system.  These will sit next to our 3590s.  I don't know if I'm missing
something obvious or if there's something I need to do to make this
work.  Here's the situation - which I know many of you have already
encountered and successfully navigated.

The 3590 tape drives and the 3592/TS1120 drives share the same device
type that of UNIT=3590 with an allocation device type of 78048083.  I
have set up esoterics to differentiate between the two.  I use UNIT=MAGS
to point to the 3590s and UNIT=TS1120 to point to them.  This will work
fine for differentiating on a new allocation, but what happens when I
want to get at an existing dataset on a tape?  With the same device type
on both tape drives, I can see the system requesting a TS1120 drive to
load a 3590 tape because the system doesn't know the difference.

How do I differentiate between the two on an existing allocation?

Thanks.

Rex

The only way that I can think of is to put the new tapes in a tape
library. Now, if you're using an ATL, then make one library for the old
drives and another library for the new drives. If the new drives are not in
a library, then create a new library (and storage group) for the new drives.
Change the IODF to say that the TS1120s are in a Manual Tape Library (MTL)
and simply make up a LIBRARY-ID and LIBPORT-ID which doesn't conflict with
anything else in the IODF. Also create a new storage class. In the storage
class ACS routine, look for UNIT=TS1120 and assign the new storage class to
the allocation. In the storage group ACS routine, look for the new storage
class and assign it to a new storage group. Use ISMF to create a tape
library with the LIBRARY-ID and associate it with the new storage group.

Now, when z/OS detects that the volume serial to be mounted is defined in
OAM as being in the MTL, it will ask that the volume be mounted on one of
the drives assigned to the MTL (one of the new drives).

I cannot think of any other way to do this.

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Re: new tape drive question

2008-11-17 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Scott and John,

Thanks for the information.  I'll definitely be asking for more help as
I head down this path.  This is an area of z/OS where I'm not that well
versed.

Our current 3590 tapes are a combination of SMS-managed and non-managed
tapes.  The 3590s are currently used for batch datasets (SMS-managed),
and DFHSM ML2 and nightly backups (non-managed).  We are planning on
moving the backups to the TS1120s, leaving HSM ML2 and production on the
3590s.

I will head down this path with the assumption that I can (relatively)
easily move the nightly backups to SMS-managed tapes.

One quick follow-up question.  My nightly backups are currently all GDG
based full-volume backups with the DSN starting as MVS.BACKUP.whatever.
To move these to SMS-managed backups on the TS1120s, do I need to change
the naming convention or is SMS smart enough to know that older
generations of the GDGs are non-SMS managed on the 3590s and the newer
ones are SMS managed on TS1120s?

For example, if I have a monthly backup called
MVS.BACKUP.MONTHLY.DB0100.G1234V00 on a 3590, and then I implement this
manual tape library and SMS management before my next month-end backup,
so the next backup is on an SMS-managed TS1120 with
DSN=MVS.BACKUP.MONTHLY.DB0100.G1235V00.  Is SMS smart enough to know
that if I call generation 1234 to load it on a 3590 but generation 1235
needs to go to the TS1120?

Thanks for helping an SMS newbie.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Rowe
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: new tape drive question

John is almost right, but you will only need one manual library.  Once a
tape is SMS managed, he can tell the difference between the different
tape technologies.
 
I have done exactly what you are doing.  If you want to talk offline,
I'll be happy to help.
 
Scott Rowe

 John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2008 4:08 PM 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:39 -0600, Pommier, Rex R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

List,

We're in the process of implementing some TS1120 tape drives on our
z/OS
system.  These will sit next to our 3590s.  I don't know if I'm missing
something obvious or if there's something I need to do to make this
work.  Here's the situation - which I know many of you have already
encountered and successfully navigated.

The 3590 tape drives and the 3592/TS1120 drives share the same device
type that of UNIT=3590 with an allocation device type of 78048083.  I
have set up esoterics to differentiate between the two.  I use
UNIT=MAGS
to point to the 3590s and UNIT=TS1120 to point to them.  This will work
fine for differentiating on a new allocation, but what happens when I
want to get at an existing dataset on a tape?  With the same device
type
on both tape drives, I can see the system requesting a TS1120 drive to
load a 3590 tape because the system doesn't know the difference.

How do I differentiate between the two on an existing allocation?

Thanks.

Rex

The only way that I can think of is to put the new tapes in a tape
library. Now, if you're using an ATL, then make one library for the old
drives and another library for the new drives. If the new drives are not
in
a library, then create a new library (and storage group) for the new
drives.
Change the IODF to say that the TS1120s are in a Manual Tape Library
(MTL)
and simply make up a LIBRARY-ID and LIBPORT-ID which doesn't conflict
with
anything else in the IODF. Also create a new storage class. In the
storage
class ACS routine, look for UNIT=TS1120 and assign the new storage class
to
the allocation. In the storage group ACS routine, look for the new
storage
class and assign it to a new storage group. Use ISMF to create a tape
library with the LIBRARY-ID and associate it with the new storage group.

Now, when z/OS detects that the volume serial to be mounted is defined
in
OAM as being in the MTL, it will ask that the volume be mounted on one
of
the drives assigned to the MTL (one of the new drives).

I cannot think of any other way to do this.

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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Thompson, Steve
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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 10:08 AM
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I also did a 'feedback'. Whomever IBM has in India updating ServLink 
should have to use it before 'designing' changes.

Jack Kelly
202-502-2390 (Office)
SNIP

I got some info in the feedback I filed. They said that the change was
in response to the requests of some users.

I know that I'm getting old, but I don't recall being asked if I wanted
to have a scrollable area the size of a 3270 MOD 1 (40x12).

Regards,
Steve Thompson

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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Bobbie Justice
:I don't recall being asked if I wanted to have a scrollable area the size 
of a 3270 MOD 1 (40x12).



ditto, me neither. I also submitted a feedback on this issue. I'm wondering 
who exactly requested that change? .


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Re: new tape drive question

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Rowe
For existing datasets, the system first figures out which volume the dataset is 
on, and if that volume is in an SMS library then SMS gets the allocation, if 
the volume is not in an SMS library the allocation continues normally.  So, no, 
you will not have a problem with the scenario you describe.

 Pommier, Rex R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2008 6:00 PM 
Scott and John,

Thanks for the information.  I'll definitely be asking for more help as
I head down this path.  This is an area of z/OS where I'm not that well
versed.

Our current 3590 tapes are a combination of SMS-managed and non-managed
tapes.  The 3590s are currently used for batch datasets (SMS-managed),
and DFHSM ML2 and nightly backups (non-managed).  We are planning on
moving the backups to the TS1120s, leaving HSM ML2 and production on the
3590s.

I will head down this path with the assumption that I can (relatively)
easily move the nightly backups to SMS-managed tapes.

One quick follow-up question.  My nightly backups are currently all GDG
based full-volume backups with the DSN starting as MVS.BACKUP.whatever.
To move these to SMS-managed backups on the TS1120s, do I need to change
the naming convention or is SMS smart enough to know that older
generations of the GDGs are non-SMS managed on the 3590s and the newer
ones are SMS managed on TS1120s?

For example, if I have a monthly backup called
MVS.BACKUP.MONTHLY.DB0100.G1234V00 on a 3590, and then I implement this
manual tape library and SMS management before my next month-end backup,
so the next backup is on an SMS-managed TS1120 with
DSN=MVS.BACKUP.MONTHLY.DB0100.G1235V00.  Is SMS smart enough to know
that if I call generation 1234 to load it on a 3590 but generation 1235
needs to go to the TS1120?

Thanks for helping an SMS newbie.

Rex

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Scott Rowe
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 4:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 
Subject: Re: new tape drive question

John is almost right, but you will only need one manual library.  Once a
tape is SMS managed, he can tell the difference between the different
tape technologies.

I have done exactly what you are doing.  If you want to talk offline,
I'll be happy to help.

Scott Rowe

 John McKown [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/17/2008 4:08 PM 
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:55:39 -0600, Pommier, Rex R.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

List,

We're in the process of implementing some TS1120 tape drives on our
z/OS
system.  These will sit next to our 3590s.  I don't know if I'm missing
something obvious or if there's something I need to do to make this
work.  Here's the situation - which I know many of you have already
encountered and successfully navigated.

The 3590 tape drives and the 3592/TS1120 drives share the same device
type that of UNIT=3590 with an allocation device type of 78048083.  I
have set up esoterics to differentiate between the two.  I use
UNIT=MAGS
to point to the 3590s and UNIT=TS1120 to point to them.  This will work
fine for differentiating on a new allocation, but what happens when I
want to get at an existing dataset on a tape?  With the same device
type
on both tape drives, I can see the system requesting a TS1120 drive to
load a 3590 tape because the system doesn't know the difference.

How do I differentiate between the two on an existing allocation?

Thanks.

Rex

The only way that I can think of is to put the new tapes in a tape
library. Now, if you're using an ATL, then make one library for the old
drives and another library for the new drives. If the new drives are not
in
a library, then create a new library (and storage group) for the new
drives.
Change the IODF to say that the TS1120s are in a Manual Tape Library
(MTL)
and simply make up a LIBRARY-ID and LIBPORT-ID which doesn't conflict
with
anything else in the IODF. Also create a new storage class. In the
storage
class ACS routine, look for UNIT=TS1120 and assign the new storage class
to
the allocation. In the storage group ACS routine, look for the new
storage
class and assign it to a new storage group. Use ISMF to create a tape
library with the LIBRARY-ID and associate it with the new storage group.

Now, when z/OS detects that the volume serial to be mounted is defined
in
OAM as being in the MTL, it will ask that the volume be mounted on one
of
the drives assigned to the MTL (one of the new drives).

I cannot think of any other way to do this.

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Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread William Donzelli
  Anyone know how to contact them? :-)

I wonder if they ever actually asked NASA?

Folks, EVERY BIT OF EVERY MISSION is available for the archive. Some
of it is online, the rest you must ask for, and they will make a tape
or CD-ROM. The data - all the data - keeps moving from one format to
the other. I do not know how they keep it now, but it used to be on
DEC WORMs maybe ten years ago. I know at that time they were retiring
the DEC system.

The best that the sensible astronomers can guess is that some
researchers want the original telemetry tapes - the old analog tape
decks that recorded whatever the receivers tuned to the spacecraft
were picking up. NASA never really intended for the telemetry data to
be seriously archived, as it would be silly to do so once the data was
pulled off and verified. It would be like archiving IBM-MAIN, with all
the IP headers, checksums and junk. Pointless, except for some really
obscure research one might do concerning net traffic or something.

Oh, and the Census people also have ALL of their computer data as well.

A rumour that just will not die...

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z/OS V1R10 COBOL

2008-11-17 Thread Jim Marshall
Just something to be aware of when ordering z/OS V1R10. IBM has just 
withdrawn Enterprise COBOL for z/OS V3R4 (5655-G53) from marketing. What 
was not expected is when we ordered a ServerPac which should include 
COBOL, it is not included. What could be included is Enterprise COBOL for z/OS 
V4R1 (5655-S71); SURPRISE. 

After much discussion with our SE and ServerPac team, they offered a fee 
service to put together a COBOL distribution of 5655-G53 to ship to us. After 
much more discussion and exchanging tears of injustice IBM agreed to send a 
CBPDO as a final gesture for N/C. 

OK, first for the observation. The SE's back in the 20th Century looked out for 
us as far as keeping tabs on software upgrades, etc, advising and reminding 
us to order, etc.  Seems in this new 21st Century I get to monitor all the 
Announcement letters on my own and look out for Ole #1 (the new way). 

Question:  are others finding this to be true and if so, what tools or things 
do 
you use to keep pace with withdrawls, etc, for what you own? 

thanks   jim  

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Re: Cancel tso id

2008-11-17 Thread CM Poncelet
Fill in the details below (LPAR on which the user is logged on, userid 
of user to be cancelled etc., removing the '' but keeping the quotes - 
e.g. /*$VS,'CANCEL U=ABCDEFGH'), select either the /*ROUTE or the 
/*JOBPARM card but not both, and then submit the job. That should do it.


//jobcard etc.
//*   
/*ROUTE XEQ LPAR alias name  -- either 
 
/*JOBPARM SYSAFF=4-char LPAR system ID   -- or

//*
//*
//* CANCEL A USER ON ANOTHER LPAR, IN BATCH   *
//*
//INTRDR  EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD DUMMY   
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR)   
//SYSUT1DD *,DLM=@@
/*$VS,'CANCEL U=userid to be 
cancelled'   
@@ 
//*
//


Cheers,

Chris Poncelet,
CA   


Ron Thomas wrote:


Hello.

We are using SYSVIEW , many a times connections gets lost due to network 
problems and id gets locked. In SDSF we can purge the id from my my fellow's 
machine, here we need to call the helpdesk and do the same? is there any 
faclity here by which we can cancel the id?


Thanks,
Ron

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Re: Cancel tso id

2008-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Fill in the details below (LPAR on which the user is logged on, userid of user 
to be cancelled etc., removing the '' but keeping the quotes - 
e.g. /*$VS,'CANCEL U=ABCDEFGH'), select either the /*ROUTE or the 
/*JOBPARM card but not both, and then submit the job. That should do it.

Except for the fact that most shops do not allow the 'typical' user to issue 
operator commands throught Batch jobs.
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!

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Re: Logrec Viewer 1.1

2008-11-17 Thread David Alcock
I'm trying to use Logrec Viewer, downloaded from IBM.
Is the tool suitable for configuration without logrec logstream?

As supplied, it is only with logstream. You can add a new option in the  
panels where you can submit a batch job using your SYS1.LOGREC.

You might want to check out my ISPF EREP/Logrec viewing application: 

http://www.planetmvs.com/freeware/daerep.html

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Re: Logrec Viewer 1.1

2008-11-17 Thread George Fogg
I GET PAGE CANNOT BE DISPLAYED message. How about a real UTL.
George Fogg 

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Subject: Re: Logrec Viewer 1.1

I'm trying to use Logrec Viewer, downloaded from IBM.
Is the tool suitable for configuration without logrec logstream?

As supplied, it is only with logstream. You can add a new option in the
panels where you can submit a batch job using your SYS1.LOGREC.

You might want to check out my ISPF EREP/Logrec viewing application: 

http://www.planetmvs.com/freeware/daerep.html

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Re: Cancel tso id

2008-11-17 Thread Scott Barry
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 02:15:38 +, CM Poncelet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Fill in the details below (LPAR on which the user is logged on, userid
of user to be cancelled etc., removing the '' but keeping the quotes -
e.g. /*$VS,'CANCEL U=ABCDEFGH'), select either the /*ROUTE or the
/*JOBPARM card but not both, and then submit the job. That should do it.

//jobcard etc.
//*
/*ROUTE XEQ LPAR alias name  -- either

/*JOBPARM SYSAFF=4-char LPAR system ID   -- or
//*
//*
//* CANCEL A USER ON ANOTHER LPAR, IN BATCH   *
//*
//INTRDR  EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSPRINT  DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
//SYSUT2DD SYSOUT=(*,INTRDR)
//SYSUT1DD *,DLM=@@
/*$VS,'CANCEL U=userid to be
cancelled'
@@
//*
//

Cheers,

Chris Poncelet,
CA

Ron Thomas wrote:

Hello.

We are using SYSVIEW , many a times connections gets lost due to network
problems and id gets locked. In SDSF we can purge the id from my my fellow's
machine, here we need to call the helpdesk and do the same? is there any
faclity here by which we can cancel the id?

Thanks,
Ron


An approach I use is to FTP PUT a JCL jobstream file to JES with:

site filetype=jes

And execute the appropriate batch-interface for a utility such as SDSF, to
execute to command, where authorized.

Scott Barry
SBBWorks, Inc.

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Re: Cancel tso id

2008-11-17 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:59:24 -0600, Ron Thomas wrote:

We are using SYSVIEW , many a times connections gets lost due to network
problems and id gets locked. In SDSF we can purge the id from my my fellow's
machine, here we need to call the helpdesk and do the same? is there any
faclity here by which we can cancel the id?

Long ago, Bill Schoen posted to the OpenEdition Tools and Toys page an
interactive Rexx wrapper to Batch SDSF:

File that you are currently viewing
   Linkname: IBM z/OS UNIX tools available for download
URL: 
http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1ty2.html

Link that you currently have selected
   Linkname: README file
URL: ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/s390/zos/tools/sdsf/sdsf.readme.txt

So, if you can, download it; install it; start it; cancel at will.

TSO's prohibition of concurrent logons is archaic and moronic.

-- gil

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Re: PROJECTCPU, Vendors and SRBs

2008-11-17 Thread Keith E. Moe
I had posted a query on the MXG list about reporting on zIIP usage via the 
PROJECTCPU function in IEAOPT.

I got a wonderful response back from Al Sherkow.  One of the points he made 
surprised me a bit.

Apparently if there are no zIIP or zAAP engines, some ISVs will not make their 
SRB's eligible and therefore will not be collected by the 
PROJECTCPU.

He also stated that Kathy Walsh had discussed this at the z/OS Expo in Oct 
2008.

Does anyone else have any input on which vendors (I think Syncsort was 
mentioned) that might not schedule their SRBs to be eligible for zIIP 
or zAAP processing because a zIIP or zAAP is not present?  Or have any other 
gottcha's with PROJECTCPU?


BMC's MAINVIEW for z/OS 2.9 schedules SRBs eligible for zIIP processing based 
on an installation specified parameter, regardless of the 
PROJECTCPU setting and/or the existence of zIIPs.

However, there is a limitation with PROJECTCPU's numbers.  z/OS does not 
provide zIIP on CP usage by JOB (Address Space) in any 
documented (GUPI or otherwise) field.  They are only available at the WLM 
workload level and individual enclaves via the WLM APIs.

Disclaimer:  I work for BMC Software and was involved in the development of the 
MAINVIEW for z/OS zIIP exploitation.


Keith E. Moe
MAINVIEW for z/OS Support
BMC Software, Inc.

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FW: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Stephen Hall
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Hi Barbara,

I agree, but there are a couple of side benefits,

Firstly when you get the email notifying you of an update, the updated text is 
actually included in the email, which saves you having to logon to IBMLink
Secondly, when you review the ETR, the whole ETR is displayed with the text 
box, much like it did in the previous version.

-

 Date:Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:20:09 +0100
 From:Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

 Now, who has decreed that either one has to

 1.) click at least three times more to see the actual ETR content or
 2.) be content to see about 8 lines of a 45689 line ETR due to the small 
 window that shows the actual content
 -
 IBMs web clickers in their infinite wisdom?
-
 Am I missing something obvious here?

 Barbara Nitz


Thanks  Regards,

-

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INSURANCE AUSTRALIA GROUP (IAG)
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Re: Logrec Viewer 1.1

2008-11-17 Thread Roland Schiradin
The URL below works for me.

I GET PAGE CANNOT BE DISPLAYED message. How about a real UTL.
George Fogg

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Re: PROJECTCPU, Vendors and SRBs

2008-11-17 Thread Norman Hollander
CA Solutions will work without specilaty processors and show you
what would have run on a zIIP when you specify PROJECTCPU.
Please note, your milage may vary from what PROJECTCPU says
vs. what actually happens with the zIIP.
-Original Message-
From: Lizette Koehler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2008 04:23 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: PROJECTCPU, Vendors and SRBs

I had posted a query on the MXG list about reporting on zIIP usage via the 
PROJECTCPU function in IEAOPT. I got a wonderful response back from Al Sherkow. 
One of the points he made surprised me a bit. Apparently if there are no zIIP 
or zAAP engines, some ISVs will not make their SRB's eligible and therefore 
will not be collected by the PROJECTCPU. He also stated that Kathy Walsh had 
discussed this at the z/OS Expo in Oct 2008. Does anyone else have any input on 
which vendors (I think Syncsort was mentioned) that might not schedule their 
SRBs to be eligible for zIIP or zAAP processing because a zIIP or zAAP is not 
present? Or have any other gottcha's with PROJECTCPU? Lizette 
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Re: z/OS V1R10 COBOL

2008-11-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 11/17/2008 7:29:09 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
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Seems in this new 21st Century I get to monitor all the  
Announcement letters on my own and look out for Ole #1 (the new way).  

Question:  are others finding this to be true and if so, what  tools or 
things do 
you use to keep pace with withdrawls, etc, for what you  own? 



Caveat emptor... Same price too! Been going  downhill since SE's and PSR's 
were turned into a 'service'. The overlooked  part of the equation is it helped 
IBM find and fix problems  faster. 




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Re: Logrec Viewer 1.1

2008-11-17 Thread George Fogg
It's working now.
Thanks,
George Fogg 

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The URL below works for me.

I GET PAGE CANNOT BE DISPLAYED message. How about a real UTL.
George Fogg

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Re: Logrec Viewer 1.1

2008-11-17 Thread Ed Finnell
 
In a message dated 11/17/2008 11:38:35 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

The URL below works for me.



Likewise. Maybe it's a firewall problem...any  return codes?
--- First panel  -?
DA$EREP is  an ISPF application that makes it easy to browse EREP (LOGREC) 
software  entries in an ACCDEV file. 

After 1999-12-31, we lucky few found that  many of the LOGREC records are 
being created by IBM without the 2000 century  indicator turned on. IBM has 
created APAR IR41986 to address this.  






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Re: Servicelink view format - was: Re: IBMLink planned outage

2008-11-17 Thread Barbara Nitz
I had called in to the servicelink help desk yesterday. This is the response 
from EMEA support:

Some customers have complained about the new look of the ETR pages, in 
particular the scroll box that displays the PMR contents.

This feature was deployed because many customers had asked for this, and the 
associated facility in ETR- Revise with two scroll boxes; one for the existing 
PMR text and one for the new text.

At this stage, all I can do is make the WW Servicelink team aware of these 
complaints.  What will happen next will depend mainly on the US customers and 
if they complain about the new design.

So personally, I am depending on all Americans on the list to go and complain 
loudly! Since IBM doesn't really care about the rest of the world (some 
exceptions noted).

Firstly when you get the email notifying you of an update
That email has been going to the wastepaper basket 'delete before reading' for 
years! 

the updated text is actually included in the email, which saves you having to 
logon to IBMLink
???It doesn't help me anything to *just* see the latest text. Since I am 
normally only opening ETRs if we have a real urgent problem, there are several 
exchanges per hour, and I really want to see the whole text in *readable* 
format, not just some bits and pieces scattered everywhere. Besides, I am 
logged into servicelink all day.

Secondly, when you review the ETR, the whole ETR is displayed with the text 
box, much like it did in the previous version.
Then you must see a different version. Once I either click on the ETR number or 
the revise/view button, all I get on the next screen is ten lines. And clicking 
output, then clicking display prinatble version takes forever to display! I 
shudder to think what that will do at oh:dark:30 on an 46KB phone line where it 
took 5 minutes already to display the 'text-only' thing that we had before.

Real pity that I currently have such a problem!

Barbara Nitz

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Re: The Register article on HP replacing z

2008-11-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
Bill and I have fun (and ultimately academic) debates on this point. :-)

My view: if it's easier to explain to the boss that a specialty engine is
an accelerator, go right ahead. It's a reasonable way to think about its
impact. If you Google zAAP (or zIIP) and accelerator you'll get
plenty of hits.

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Re: PROJECTCPU, Vendors and SRBs

2008-11-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
If you absolutely cannot figure out how to get zIIP or zAAP eligibility
turned on for certain products, and you suspect you're consequently
undercalling the eligibility in your test measurements, you might want to
talk to your IBM rep.

As one option, under OOCoD (On Off Capacity On Demand) terms you could
activate a zAAP and/or zIIP for even just one day, run your tests, and
either shut the engine(s) off or buy it(them) permanently, depending on the
results. OOCoD is available at least for any zAAP- or zIIP-capable system.
The worst that would happen is you'd pay the one day specialty engine
charge.

As another option, if you are licensing z/VM then you can configure z/VM to
simulate a zAAP and/or zIIP (on CP capacity) and run your tests that way.
This second option should at least tell you whether further investigation
is merited. There was some discussion about this z/VM feature in another
recent thread here.

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Re: z/OS V1R10 COBOL

2008-11-17 Thread Timothy Sipples
A lot of people subscribe to IBM iNews and set a profile to receive any
announcements concerning their products. I think this works pretty well.
Here's the link:

http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/index.wss?buttonpressed=ADDINFO

Then click on the appropriate iNews link for your part of the world to
begin the signup process.

Another option (perhaps in combination) is to subscribe to the RSS feed for
IBM's Software Support Lifecycle page. With this subscription you'll be
able to see whenever IBM adds or changes an End of Support or Marketing
Withdrawal date:

http://www-111.ibm.com/software/support/lifecycle/customfeed.jsp

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Re: Ancient IBM Drive Rescues Apollo Moon Data

2008-11-17 Thread gah

Rick Fochtman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Will any of the more modern drives handle the appropriate density?
 I'm not sure: will a 7-track 3420 handle 200 BPI? or 556 BPI?

http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/storage/storage_3420.html

It seems that they do 556 and 800 normally, 200 requires a 2803-2.

It even looks like they did 1600, though I don't ever remember
anyone doing that.

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Re: z/OS V1R10 COBOL

2008-11-17 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Seems in this new 21st Century I get to monitor all the Announcement letters 
on my own and look out for Ole #1 (the new way).  

I, honestly, don't understand the question.
Aren't we responsible for understanding the requirements for each upgrade, 
regardless of the product?


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