Problem with RMF vsam dataset
Hello: We have a problem with a RMF vsam dataset. We want to change one of them and when we add it shows the message: ERB820I III: MONITOR III DATA SET 'STS.RMF.LNA4.MONI3.VSAM01' IS ERB820I III: UNUSABLE *ERB853E III: MONITOR III DATA SET SUPPORT VSAM ERROR DURING GET ON ' *ERB853E III: STS.RMF.LNA4.MONI3.VSAM01' RETURN CODE 08 REASON 10 I've searched the return and reason code in DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets, but I haven't found any error about it. It has enough space in the volumen. What's wrong with it? Thank you Jorge García Juanino Técnico de Sistemas Z/Os/Área de Producción y Tecnología MAPFRE TECNOLOGÍAS DE LA INFORMACIÓN Crtra. De Pozuelo nº 52 28220 Majadahonda (Madrid) Tfno: 91 581 27 34/ 618 33 35 59 Fax: 91 581 24 01 jgarc...@mapfre.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
GDPS Questions
While waiting for the STP, we have decided/proceeded to implement and setup GDPS on a single site (BRS config) using two LPARs acting as primary and secondary site and a controlling system for our testing and for familiarization purpose. GDPS, SA and netview have been setup and working properly. Right now, our STP and most of the hardware have arrived and we will be able to implement the multisite active-active solution. My question is what are the things we have to prepare and adjust? Isn't it just by moving the acting secondary site system and controlling system from the primary site to secondary site DASD volumes, we should be able to re-IPL the secondary system just like before? Any user experience switching from single site to multisite? TIA. Regards, Jason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AIX gets 64 bit COBOL but still none for Z/os ...
Clark Morris writes: Why does COBOL need XML handling? Because many customers wanted it and filed excellent requirements details with IBM, through SHARE and other avenues. (Which now means we've come full circle, again, in this discussion thread. :-)) Question back to you: why does COBOL need AMODE 64? No, don't answer here. :-) And there are better questions anyway (not to answer here either) like: Would AMODE 64 COBOL still be useful to you if it could not call 31-bit, and vice versa? How useful? (More or less useful than X, Y, and Z proposed enhancements?) If it could not call 31-bit, would you instantly recompile all your code to 64-bit?? Going forward, would you expect new language features to be available in both 31-bit and 64-bit, or is only 64-bit acceptable? (Answer carefully. Think about 24-bit as you answer. :-)) Would it be OK if you had to change your code (perhaps with the aid of a conversion tool) before recompiling it in 64-bit? How much change? How critical is it that recompiled code behave exactly the same way (at runtime) as previously compiled code? What are your performance expectations for 64-bit compiled code? How much CPU increase, if any, is acceptable? (Bear in mind that 64-bit code, ceteris paribus, will consume a little more CPU. So if the expectation is equality or better, that means additional effort is likely needed in compiler optimization. Knocking something else out of the queue, perhaps.) What business problems are you unable to solve (or soon expect to be unable to solve) without AMODE 64 COBOL?? What sort of time horizons do you have for these questions? Any financial issues (threats? :-)) that IBM should know about that might be relevant? And so on. But the list of SHARE requirements previously posted capture these sorts of questions pretty well, don't they? So the answer is still the same as before, isn't it? :-) Which is, tell IBM what you want (and in what priority) so that IBM can do the best and right thing(s). SHARE is a really good vehicle to do that. Speaking only for myself. - - - - - Timothy Sipples IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AIX gets 64 bit COBOL but still none for Z/os ...
I'll throw in the thought that the experiences with similar things from the past - like Data Windowing Services - may be relevant... What did customers like or dislike about them? My suspicion is they were too difficult to use for most people and didn't necessarily provide that much benefit. Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter ID: MartinPacker They're figuring out that collaboration isn't a productivity hit, it makes them smarter. Sam Palmisano on BlogCentral, 26 November 2008 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
Mark, you are correct - no commit. Thanks for the input. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ACF2: populating UID string from job name?
ACF2[1] authorization is done by pattern matching of rules against an installation-defined construct called the UID string. The fields in the UID string come from the ACF2 logon id (LID) record. I'm dealing with an old IEFUJV that does a lot of cross checking of different substrings of the job name and validation of EXEC and DD statements based on the results. I'd like to move the volatile part of that out of IEFUJV and into ACF2. So my question is whether including the job name in the UID string is reasonable, and, if so, what the best approach to populating it is. [1] I know that those of you using ACF2 already understand the background. The explanation is just to satisfy the curiosity of other readers. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Problem with RMF vsam dataset
How did you create this file? Did you use the RMF Process for creating it? Lizette We have a problem with a RMF vsam dataset. We want to change one of them and when we add it shows the message: ERB820I III: MONITOR III DATA SET 'STS.RMF.LNA4.MONI3.VSAM01' IS ERB820I III: UNUSABLE *ERB853E III: MONITOR III DATA SET SUPPORT VSAM ERROR DURING GET ON ' *ERB853E III: STS.RMF.LNA4.MONI3.VSAM01' RETURN CODE 08 REASON 10 I've searched the return and reason code in DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets, but I haven't found any error about it. It has enough space in the volumen. What's wrong with it? Thank you -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zSecure Audit Concern with EJES SVC
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:10:57 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote: I assume this SVC 255 (poor numbering) does what svc255 usually does. Why do you say it is poor numbering? IBM uses SVC numbers 0 to about 150. Numbers from 255 down are reserved for user SVCs. These are the SVC numbers used by vendor products as well. There is no usually for SVC 255. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 07:10:10 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: ACF2[1] authorization is done by pattern matching of rules against an installation-defined construct called the UID string. The fields in the UID string come from the ACF2 logon id (LID) record. I'm dealing with an old IEFUJV that does a lot of cross checking of different substrings of the job name and validation of EXEC and DD statements based on the results. I'd like to move the volatile part of that out of IEFUJV and into ACF2. So my question is whether including the job name in the UID string is reasonable, and, if so, what the best approach to populating it is. I think the answer is no, but I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to do. The UID string is not dynamic (well there is some form of dynamic UID IIRC using GROUP logon field). The characters that make up the UID prefix the logonid/userid (which is part of the UID) and good rules shouldn't be written to be specific to the userid portion of the UID. So are you proposing that your UID string look something like this (of course this is a made up example): FieldLen --- -- DIVISION 2 static DEPARTMENT 3 static FUNCTION 3 static JOBNAME 1-8 dynamic LOGONID 1-7 static -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cost of SAS
Kelman, Tom wrote: Last year we looked at SAS sub-capacity pricing. What we found out then is that to get sub-capacity pricing for SAS you need to cut out an LPAR that runs SAS and hard-cap it. Then they'll charge you for the MSUs (MIPS) that is assigned to that LPAR. You can't run SAS on any other LPAR. Another way: do not use SAS vbg BTW: I don't like penalty box as solution for license terms. Those terms should be adjusted to reality, not reality to the terms. The licenses need not to be on full CPC MSU. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: No SMF 74(4)
I was unaware that RMF III was required to get the 74(4)'s. I have recently assumed this duty and will probably just go after the LPAR's that are part of the plex and that alone will be enough to keep me busy for quite a while. --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com wrote: From: Skip Robinson jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Subject: Re: No SMF 74(4) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 6:04 PM Having stated that 74(4) is required for *all* LPARs, I need to back peddle a bit. As I understand the process, 74(4) is needed to establish the 'qualifying sysplex function' in terms of usage of the relevant structure. For example, if you claim GRS star as the qualifying function, then you need 74(4) to show that all purported sysplex members do indeed use ISGLOCK. If you have other nonmember LPARs running on any of the CECs in the mix--either monoplex members or members of a different sysplex--then it's not clear to me why you would need 74(4) records from the noncandidate LPARs. If an LPAR is not offered up for verification, then who cares what structures if any it uses? On the other hand, gathering 74(4) from *all* LPARs may in the end be easier than getting someone to sign off with data gathered selectively. I took the easy way out and submitted data from all LPARs. Such a wuss. . . JO.Skip Robinson Southern California Edison Company Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com Patrick Falcone patrick.falcone7 @VERIZON.NET To Sent by: IBM IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Mainframe cc Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua Subject .edu Re: No SMF 74(4) 01/21/2009 09:44 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List ibm-m...@bama.ua .edu (@#*(*#E)! Thanks Mark and yes, right on Skip. From: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com Subject: Re: No SMF 74(4) To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 4:39 PM On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:32:26 -0800, Patrick Falcone patrick.falco...@verizon.net wrote: Can't seem to find type 74(4) after adding a new member to the plex. Any not obvious, or obvious, reasons? Seems to be in SMF/RMF. Doesn't that come from RMF III? Is RMFGAT running? Mark -- Mark Zelden -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Rename OMVS files
I have a question about OMVS HFS files. I have the compatibility maintenenance installed on my z/OS 1.7 system, in preparation for installing z/OS 1.9. When I created my 3 ALTRES packs on 3390-3s, I copied the OMVS files with FDRDSF. As an example, I copied OMVS.ROOT to OMVS.SERVICE.ROOT, and applied all of the maintenance. My question is, can I use IEHPROGM to rename the Service file back to OMVS.ROOT? When I clip the pack to IPL, the catalog will point to the correct dataset name. The current IPL volume is Z17RES, and my maintenance volume is ZA7RES, so I will clip ZA7RES to Z17RES, and IPL it in my test sysplex. If I can't do that, how should I do it? Eric -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rename OMVS files
That should work just fine. I do the same thing with DFDSS copy/rename. BTW, in my sandbox, I have a permanent set of OMVS files that I apply maint to (SMPE is updated to point to OMVS.SERVICE.*) the files are then copied with rename back to the sysres volumes. snip I have a question about OMVS HFS files. I have the compatibility maintenenance installed on my z/OS 1.7 system, in preparation for installing z/OS 1.9. When I created my 3 ALTRES packs on 3390-3s, I copied the OMVS files with FDRDSF. As an example, I copied OMVS.ROOT to OMVS.SERVICE.ROOT, and applied all of the maintenance. My question is, can I use IEHPROGM to rename the Service file back to OMVS.ROOT? When I clip the pack to IPL, the catalog will point to the correct dataset name. The current IPL volume is Z17RES, and my maintenance volume is ZA7RES, so I will clip ZA7RES to Z17RES, and IPL it in my test sysplex. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rename OMVS files
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:25:49 +, Eric Bielefeld eric-ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: I have a question about OMVS HFS files. I have the compatibility maintenenance installed on my z/OS 1.7 system, in preparation for installing z/OS 1.9. When I created my 3 ALTRES packs on 3390-3s, I copied the OMVS files with FDRDSF. As an example, I copied OMVS.ROOT to OMVS.SERVICE.ROOT, and applied all of the maintenance. My question is, can I use IEHPROGM to rename the Service file back to OMVS.ROOT? When I clip the pack to IPL, the catalog will point to the correct dataset name. The current IPL volume is Z17RES, and my maintenance volume is ZA7RES, so I will clip ZA7RES to Z17RES, and IPL it in my test sysplex. If I can't do that, how should I do it? That is not the way I do it, but it should work. Or rename with any other method (ISPF etc.). As long as it is indirectly cataloged, it should be fine. I've never done cloning that involved clipping volume names. I've flipped between an A/B set (in small shops, very little spare DASD) where I copy the live volumes like you did, apply maintenance, then IPL from the new set. But everything except the HFS files were indirectly cataloged so no CLIPs were needed. The HFS files had the (primary) sysres as part of the name to facilitate mounting the maintenance root. The other way (most common now) is to always apply to a maintenance set of sysres volumes and clone those to the IPL-able set. BTW, if you want to see samples of cloning jobs, see the JOBs/Doc section of my web site. CLONERSO is the A/B set method and CLONERES is similar to what I do today with cloning a maintenance set. The examples use FDR so that is good for you. One difference from the sample on my web site is that I converted all our HFS to zFS after we migrated to z/OS 1.8. You can't indirectly catalog a zFS.I also had to add a ZFSADM step to quiesce the zFS files prior to the FDRCOPY since HFS=QUIESCE is not supported for the COPY TYPE=DSF (I hope innovation fixes this eventually). Of course the is an unquiesce step also after the copy. DFSMSdss does the quiesce automatically for both HFS and zFS. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rename OMVS files
Allan, That's not quite the same thing. I'm talking about just doing an IEHPROGM rename, where you actually are copying the file and renaming it with the copy. Eric Staller wrote: That should work just fine. I do the same thing with DFDSS copy/rename. BTW, in my sandbox, I have a permanent set of OMVS files that I apply maint to (SMPE is updated to point to OMVS.SERVICE.*) the files are then copied with rename back to the sysres volumes. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zSecure Audit Concern with EJES SVC
Tom Marchant wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:10:57 +0200, Itschak Mugzach wrote: I assume this SVC 255 (poor numbering) does what svc255 usually does. Why do you say it is poor numbering? IBM uses SVC numbers 0 to about 150. Numbers from 255 down are reserved for user SVCs. These are the SVC numbers used by vendor products as well. There is no usually for SVC 255. EJESSVC can be installed as a standard SVC or as an extended SVC routine (ESR). SVC numbering is the customer's choice. To avoid conflicts with existing or future system-provided SVCs, IBM recommends choosing an SVC or ESR number between 200 and 255. See http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/iea2a890/23.2 for more information. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: populating UID string from job name?
- Original Message - From: Shmuel Metz , Seymour J. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:12 AM Subject: ACF2: populating UID string from job name? ACF2[1] authorization is done by pattern matching of rules against an installation-defined construct called the UID string. The fields in the UID string come from the ACF2 logon id (LID) record. I'm dealing with an old IEFUJV that does a lot of cross checking of different substrings of the job name and validation of EXEC and DD statements based on the results. I'd like to move the volatile part of that out of IEFUJV and into ACF2. So my question is whether including the job name in the UID string is reasonable, and, if so, what the best approach to populating it is. [1] I know that those of you using ACF2 already understand the background. The explanation is just to satisfy the curiosity of other readers. Shmuel, I'd say that including the JOBNAME in the UID string is not reasonable. Do you really want to create a UID for each job? The access rules alone would be a nightmare. Why do you need a UJV exit to do all that extra checking? Why not just pull the exit, and use access rule checking on the datasets, and program checking or program pathing on the EXEC? Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rename OMVS files
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 08:56:40 -0600, Mark Zelden wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:25:49 +, Eric Bielefeld wrote: I copied OMVS.ROOT to OMVS.SERVICE.ROOT, and applied all of the maintenance. My question is, can I use IEHPROGM to rename the Service file back to OMVS.ROOT? I've never done cloning that involved clipping volume names. I've flipped between an A/B set (in small shops, very little spare DASD) where I copy the live volumes like you did, apply maintenance, then IPL from the new set. But everything except the HFS files were indirectly cataloged so no CLIPs were needed. The HFS files had the (primary) sysres as part of the name to facilitate mounting the maintenance root. I like Mark's way of doing it, too. Then in your BPRPRMxx, you would specify, for example, OMVS.SYSR1..ROOT. That way, you always get the correct root for the IPL volume. And if something goes very wrong, you can simply IPL the previous IPL volume. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rename OMVS files
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:25:49 +, Eric Bielefeld wrote: My question is, can I use IEHPROGM to rename the Service file back to OMVS.ROOT? It is easy enough to test. Rename OMVS.SERVICE.ROOT to OMVS.TEST.ROOT and mount it at your service mount point. Then look at what you have in your service directory. If it looks right you should be fine. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zSecure Audit Concern with EJES SVC
- Original Message - From: Ulrich Boche ulrich.bo...@web.de Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: zSecure Audit Concern with EJES SVC Recently, I ran a zSecure Audit MVS Tables status scan and one of its findings was the following: Instruction scan hit, Updated using SVCUPDTE, Installation-defined SVCno, Caller may be unauthorized Pri SVC ES# APF Function Appl U Sf Last update From Where 24 255 No1 A1 0009D1B0 PVT Index Address Where Key SP ScanIns Length AM Entry at Same addr as Eye catchers CN04FE1DB8 EPLPAM 584 31 EJESSVC .EJESSVC ..092720071430LICENSED MATERIAL, PROPERTY OF PHOENIX SOFTWARE INTERNATIONAL -- COPYRIGHT (C) 1990-2007..kx4.. O 0192EBA4 ENUC RO 2389 31 IGCERROR in IEANUC01 SVC 38 .. 0o.. I 00E240E8 PLPA 8 24 IGC0025E ..0414 Index Typ APF ESR Att Locks Current 3/4 No No Old 2 No No Expect ??? ??? Instruction/Str/SVC scan results ModeSupRB No It looks like zSecure is all hot and bothered about the fact that the SVC was installed with SVCUPDTE, and that the caller may be unauthorized (never mind that the program that ran the SVCUPDTE had to be APF-authorized). If that's the case, this is a brain-dead exception. EJES is perfectly safe, people. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: zSecure Audit Concern with EJES SVC
Ulrich Boche wrote: Instruction scan hit, Updated using SVCUPDTE, Installation-defined SVCno, Caller may be unauthorized From the information you posted, it appears that zSecure is flagging the entry because it believes it is not installation-defined. Without access to the documentation, I'm not sure exactly what that means. My guess is that it's looking into the parmlib members used at IPL and not finding a matching IEASVCxx entry. The indication that the SVC was installed via SVCUPDTE seems to support that theory. (E)JES distributes a utility customers can use to dynamically install its SVC using SVCUPDTE. This help avoid IPL for a brand new install. [Aside: When the undocumented SVC-related parameters on SETPROG LPA,ADD become documented/supported, we probably won't need that utility any more.] Could it be that this particular installation dynamically installs EJESSVC using the provided SVCUPDTE utility after every IPL? If so, I suggest they update the IEASVCxx parmlib member as described in (E)JES Installation and z/OS MVS Initialization and Tuning and let the system load the SVC on the next IPL. That should quiet zSecure down. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Rename OMVS files
Tom, Thanks for the suggestion. I renamed the file to OMVS.TEST.ROOT, catalogued it, and was able to mount it and look at it. I just wasn't sure about renaming the HFS file, but it works so I'll do that. Mark - thanks for the email on cloning. I'll look at your web site eventually. I have always used clipping packs to install maintenance. On my current system I have 3 RES packs, which makes that kind of hard. On my 1.9 system, which is up to the point of the 1st IPL, I have only 1 RES pack on a 3390-9. That will make clipping packs easier.I think your way of maintenance is probably cleaner, but I always like to stick with what works for me. I've also inherited a lot of sins of setting up z/OS, many of which will go away when I install 1.9. Eric Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:25:49 +, Eric Bielefeld wrote: My question is, can I use IEHPROGM to rename the Service file back to OMVS.ROOT? It is easy enough to test. Rename OMVS.SERVICE.ROOT to OMVS.TEST.ROOT and mount it at your service mount point. Then look at what you have in your service directory. If it looks right you should be fine. -- Tom Marchant -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
OMG. Why on earth have how an application is coded have to do with a system wide outage ??? No matter how an application programmer codes, the system should never be so vulnerable that this happens ! Regards, Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Mark Zelden Skickat: den 21 januari 2009 23:43 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update) On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:33:40 -0600, JE Thinnes jethin...@aol.com wrote: IBM DB2 support determined the 'hang' problem was caused by a DB2 application program. Without getting into details, DB2 does a 'suspend for commit' that can take 7+ CPU minutes to complete. DB2 support suggests we fix our application (which I agree we should). However, it seems like the DB2 code should not be able to cause a 7+ minute MVS 'outage'. Am I wrong to think the DB2 code should be fixed too? There is nothing wrong with the DB2 code. How often (or not in this case!) was the application doing a commit? Not at all (implicit at the end of the process)? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Media conversion providers?
Hi listers, Our core mainframe business application was sunset on 12/31/2008, with our data migrating from the z platform to an SAP solution. Now we are faced with what to do with data on tape (3490/3490E). Our mix of data on tape consist of backups utilizing CA Faver, CA Disk, CA's DB2 Management Tools (formally Platinum) for DB2 Image Copies, and IDP's FDR, as well as Application data that contains packed data. Is there a recommended service provided that can convert/transfer from the 3490 media to another (possibly LTO)? Our 'frame (and probably myself) will be hauled out the door on 3/31/2009, so time is a factor should RYO methods be the only recourse. Thanks for any suggestions! Thanks, Steve Horein Sr. Systems Programmer Houghton Mifflin Harcourt (407)-345-2680 - Office (407)-963-7706 - Mobile steve.hor...@hmhpub.com steve.hor...@gmail.com* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Media conversion providers?
Steve -- Not to answer your question but have you a plan what you're going to do with that data once you get it on readable media? Can you run applications that can process it on your new platform? i -- Original Message -- Received: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:00:04 AM COT From: Steve Horein steve.hor...@harcourt.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Media conversion providers? Hi listers, Our core mainframe business application was sunset on 12/31/2008, with our data migrating from the z platform to an SAP solution. Now we are faced with what to do with data on tape (3490/3490E). Our mix of data on tape consist of backups utilizing CA Faver, CA Disk, CA's DB2 Management Tools (formally Platinum) for DB2 Image Copies, and IDP's FDR, as well as Application data that contains packed data. Is there a recommended service provided that can convert/transfer from the 3490 media to another (possibly LTO)? Our 'frame (and probably myself) will be hauled out the door on 3/31/2009, so time is a factor should RYO methods be the only recourse. Thanks for any suggestions! Thanks, Steve Horein Sr. Systems Programmer Houghton Mifflin Harcourt (407)-345-2680 - Office (407)-963-7706 - Mobile steve.hor...@hmhpub.com steve.hor...@gmail.com* -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Create a NL tape in a SMS Tape Library
John; Here is my question for IBMMAIN. Thanks [X] We wish to establish the capability of loading an ICKDSF and a DF/DSS NL tape from VTL for Business Continuance Exercise... Do you know of a way to create a non-label tape in a SMS managed Tape Library. Do I have to update my ACS routines to allow the creation of a non label tape. I have tried the following JCL, and this does not work. Do you have any suggestions. 3 //STEP1EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 4 //SAMODS DD DSN=SYS1.SADRYLIB,DISP=SHR 5 //TAPEDD DD DSN=BDC1.ADRSA.IPLT1,UNIT=3490,LABEL=(,NL,EXPDT=98000), //DISP=(NEW,KEEP),VOL=SER=SAIPL, //DCB=(DSORG=PS,RECFM=U,BLKSIZE=32760,LRECL=32760) 6 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 7 //SYSINDD * 8 //STEP2EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU,PARM='UTILMSG=YES' 9 //SAMODS DD DSN=SYS1.SADRYLIB,DISP=SHR 10 //TAPEDD DD DSN=BDC1.ADRSA.IPLT2,UNIT=3490,LABEL=(,NL,EXPDT=98000), //DISP=(NEW,KEEP), //DCB=(DSORG=PS,RECFM=U,BLKSIZE=32760,LRECL=32760) 11 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* 12 //SYSINDD * STMT NO. MESSAGE - 5 IEF604I EXPDT SUBPARAMETER OF LABEL KEYWORD SPECIFIES ZERO DAYS VALUE 10 IEF604I EXPDT SUBPARAMETER OF LABEL KEYWORD SPECIFIES ZERO DAYS VALUE 5 IGD01020I NSL/LTM LABEL TAPES ARE NOT ALLOWED IN TAPE LIBRARY AND/OR A NON-LIBRARY VOLUME IS SPECIFIED -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cost of SAS
All, I'm running SAS with Win XP 64 on an 4x3Ghz CPU IBM Blade Server with 8GB of memory and all my data on a BlueArc Filer on 1Gb connections. All this for a fraction of the MF cost. I'm a mainframe bigot, but I would never want to go back to running SAS on a MF. Some things do run better on other platforms. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Cost of SAS Kelman, Tom wrote: Last year we looked at SAS sub-capacity pricing. What we found out then is that to get sub-capacity pricing for SAS you need to cut out an LPAR that runs SAS and hard-cap it. Then they'll charge you for the MSUs (MIPS) that is assigned to that LPAR. You can't run SAS on any other LPAR. Another way: do not use SAS vbg BTW: I don't like penalty box as solution for license terms. Those terms should be adjusted to reality, not reality to the terms. The licenses need not to be on full CPC MSU. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:53:44 +0100, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: OMG. Why on earth have how an application is coded have to do with a system wide outage ??? No matter how an application programmer codes, the system should never be so vulnerable that this happens ! It wasn't an outage. It was a hang. Not quite the same scenario... but try this: Say you run on a single engine and have a very high priority home grown application that runs as an STC. It is so important that the installation decided to run it in the SYSSTC service class. Someone makes a coding mistake and puts it in a tight loop. The entire system comes to a grinding halt. Who's fault is it? The OS? The application coder? The ones who decided it should be classified to SYSSTC? The person who coded the WLM rule? You can try and make the system fool proof, but you can't make it damn fool proof. Just a though... -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Media conversion providers?
I went through this same thing about 3 years ago, so obviously my info is out of date. I basically searched for TAPE CONVERSION 3490, or some such thing on Google, and found a number of vendors. They were all very expensive. Each tape format had to be built separately, and I think was several thousand dollars each to set up. Converting each tape under that format was a LOT cheaper. I really don't remember any of the companies, but there was one that would sell you software, and a 3490 drive that could be hooked up to PC servers. The software aided in doing the conversion. I believe you basically needed the record format from a COBOL program, or whatever language you used. I think it cost around $10,000 or so back then, but my memory is not always correct. Eric Steve Horein steve.hor...@harcourt.com wrote: Hi listers, Our core mainframe business application was sunset on 12/31/2008, with our data migrating from the z platform to an SAP solution. Now we are faced with what to do with data on tape (3490/3490E). Our mix of data on tape consist of backups utilizing CA Faver, CA Disk, CA's DB2 Management Tools (formally Platinum) for DB2 Image Copies, and IDP's FDR, as well as Application data that contains packed data. Is there a recommended service provided that can convert/transfer from the 3490 media to another (possibly LTO)? Our 'frame (and probably myself) will be hauled out the door on 3/31/2009, so time is a factor should RYO methods be the only recourse. Thanks for any suggestions! Thanks, Steve Horein Sr. Systems Programmer Houghton Mifflin Harcourt (407)-345-2680 - Office (407)-963-7706 - Mobile steve.hor...@hmhpub.com steve.hor...@gmail.com* -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Washington University St Louis, Missouri 314-935-3418 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Media conversion providers?
On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:58:11 -0600, Steve Horein steve.hor...@harcourt.com wrote: Hi listers, Our core mainframe business application was sunset on 12/31/2008, with our data migrating from the z platform to an SAP solution. Now we are faced with what to do with data on tape (3490/3490E). Our mix of data on tape consist of backups utilizing CA Faver, CA Disk, CA's DB2 Management Tools (formally Platinum) for DB2 Image Copies, and IDP's FDR, as well as Application data that contains packed data. Is there a recommended service provided that can convert/transfer from the 3490 media to another (possibly LTO)? Our 'frame (and probably myself) will be hauled out the door on 3/31/2009, so time is a factor should RYO methods be the only recourse. Thanks for any suggestions! Thanks, Steve Horein I'm going to give what might be an off-the-wall answer. Use a FlexCUB. This is from Funsoft, the makers of FlexES (zArch emulation on Intel). The FlexCUB is a PC with an Escon channel emulation card in it. It could be used to emulate 3480 type tape drives on PC type disk, including your SAN. So, you could then use a z/OS utility to do a tapecopy (OpenTech and CA have products to do this). The tape volumes would be in specially formatted PC files. The product comes with documentation on the format of these files. It also comes with utility programs and subroutines which would allow user written programs to access the tape data. However, I don't know what good this would do you for files created in a proprietary format, such as CA-Faver, FDR, and the others that you mentioned. Without knowledge of the format, which is undocumented, what would you do with the data? It would work very well with COBOL created files. Or anything else where you know the format of the data in the file. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Media conversion providers?
I forgot to mention that you can also attach SCSI tape drives to the FlexCUB and use them for data storage instead of DASD. So, attach your LTO to the FlexCUB and just copy the data. -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
Just when you think the system is fool proof, along comes a bigger fool. Dennis Roach GHG Corporation 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15 4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Voice: (281) 336-5027 Cell:(713) 511-1059 E-Mail: dennis.ro...@lmco.com All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or manufactured, since the beginning of time. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 10:26 AM On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:53:44 +0100, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: No matter how an application programmer codes, the system should never be so vulnerable that this happens ! It wasn't an outage. It was a hang. You can try and make the system fool proof, but you can't make it damn fool proof. -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
Mark Zelden wrote: It wasn't an outage. It was a hang. Not quite the same scenario... but try this: Say you run on a single engine and have a very high priority home grown application that runs as an STC. It is so important that the installation decided to run it in the SYSSTC service class. Someone makes a coding mistake and puts it in a tight loop. The entire system comes to a grinding halt. Who's fault is it? The OS? The application coder? The ones who decided it should be classified to SYSSTC? The person who coded the WLM rule? You can try and make the system fool proof, but you can't make it damn fool proof. There is no priority management scheme that can avoid all perceived hang situations on a uniprocessor. IMHO, the best answer for z/OS is to always run with at least two logical CPs. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Media conversion providers?
Why bother? A contingency contract with a provider (IBM Global Services, or some DR provider like COMDISCO) and suitable climate controlled storage may be all you need. Set a final sunset date in concert with your legal and audit folks and rest easy. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Horein Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Media conversion providers? Hi listers, Our core mainframe business application was sunset on 12/31/2008, with our data migrating from the z platform to an SAP solution. Now we are faced with what to do with data on tape (3490/3490E). Our mix of data on tape consist of backups utilizing CA Faver, CA Disk, CA's DB2 Management Tools (formally Platinum) for DB2 Image Copies, and IDP's FDR, as well as Application data that contains packed data. Is there a recommended service provided that can convert/transfer from the 3490 media to another (possibly LTO)? Our 'frame (and probably myself) will be hauled out the door on 3/31/2009, so time is a factor should RYO methods be the only recourse. Thanks for any suggestions! Thanks, Steve Horein Sr. Systems Programmer Houghton Mifflin Harcourt (407)-345-2680 - Office (407)-963-7706 - Mobile steve.hor...@hmhpub.com steve.hor...@gmail.com* NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ERRET completion code for asynch cross mem POST
Can anyone point me to documention on interpreting the contents of Reg 3 on entry to an ERRET routine from the POST macro? Thanks Jim Whitehurst -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cost of SAS
would never want to go back to running SAS on a MF. Some things do run better on other platforms. It depends. I worked in two shops where 'everybody' used SAS. In that case, one mainframe licence was cheaper than mega-multiple PC licences, and the data was all shared. If just your performance/capacity analysts, and a few others use it the PC solution makes sense. But, if you get up to a couple 100 or more, as always, the mainframe economy of scale makes more sense. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
IMHO, the best answer for z/OS is to always run with at least two logical CPs. I've actually found three better. One for MVS and his friends. One for user work. One for those times of loops and bad application code taking over the second engine. BTDT! GTTS! I've only seen one scenario where two is 'safe'. And, that is the sandbox machine. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
According to the ICSF documentation ICSF API (with crypto HW) do support financial functions like PIN verification. Is any customer reference list available ? Maybe somewhere on IBM website? Other suppliers provide such lists. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2008 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 złote i został w całości wpłacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
(When the system is not working for several minutes it's critical. Regardless of the cause. With working I include responding to user(operator) commands.) But is not home grown application. It's DB2. A standard product delivered by IBM that is supposed to be playing on the safe side in an IBM system. And usually (or nearly always) the priority for application programs is never at the OS level. (I still can't envision what DB2 did that needed all of the system resources i several minutes.) Regards, Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Mark Zelden Skickat: den 22 januari 2009 17:26 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update) On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:53:44 +0100, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: OMG. Why on earth have how an application is coded have to do with a system wide outage ??? No matter how an application programmer codes, the system should never be so vulnerable that this happens ! It wasn't an outage. It was a hang. Not quite the same scenario... but try this: Say you run on a single engine and have a very high priority home grown application that runs as an STC. It is so important that the installation decided to run it in the SYSSTC service class. Someone makes a coding mistake and puts it in a tight loop. The entire system comes to a grinding halt. Who's fault is it? The OS? The application coder? The ones who decided it should be classified to SYSSTC? The person who coded the WLM rule? You can try and make the system fool proof, but you can't make it damn fool proof. Just a though... -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
According to the ICSF documentation ICSF API (with crypto HW) do support financial functions like PIN verification. Is any customer reference list available ? Maybe somewhere on IBM website? Other suppliers provide such lists. All the Canadian banks have been using it for years. Before that, they used the 4753 security processor. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
If you have Cheryl Watson's current Tuning Newletter - I am in it. It looks like she picked up my discussion on the new feature in z/OS V1.9 ISPF 3.17. Does anyone have her email address? I would like to send her a thank you. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple FTP servers?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Bri P My main requirement is that the userid and password is sent AFTER the TLS encryption has been established, I don't want clients signing in with login credentials sent in clear, before establishing encryption one in-session by issuing an AUTH command, for example. TLS encryption is established before credentials are solicited. From a 'purist' viewpoint, port 990 is apparently reserved for FTPS, rather than port 21, and I know that our auditors will scan those and claim port 21 is a risk due to being in clear. I assumed that I could only guarantee that encryption was established (or the connection rejected) if I used AUTH REQUIRED in the FTP server parms, but obviously specifying that will compromise those clients who cannot yet, or don't want to, connect this way. So I considered a separate server. If I can use AUTH ALLOWED rather than REQUIRED and still do the above, then I'm happy to continue on port 21 and let the client negotiate at connect time.. I'll just argue with the auditors. But there's nothing new there, anyway.. Let the client specify whether TLS is required or just preferred. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
che...@watsonwalker.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME If you have Cheryl Watson's current Tuning Newletter - I am in it. It looks like she picked up my discussion on the new feature in z/OS V1.9 ISPF 3.17. Does anyone have her email address? I would like to send her a thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Multiple FTP servers?
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Hal Merritt [ snip ] *To my non English speaking friends: 'donno' is slang for don't know or don’t understand or I just work here. A common alternate spelling is dunno. And for fans of the Family Circle cartoon, there's Ida Know. :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
che...@watsonwalker.com --Original Message-- From: Lizette Koehler Sender: IBM Mainframe Discussion List To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List ReplyTo: IBM Mainframe Discussion List Sent: Jan 22, 2009 12:43 Subject: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME If you have Cheryl Watson's current Tuning Newletter - I am in it. It looks like she picked up my discussion on the new feature in z/OS V1.9 ISPF 3.17. Does anyone have her email address? I would like to send her a thank you. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
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Re: Changeman on Z
Thanks Rogers, You indicate you may explore excluding these files from Migration and Space release, why? I am not a Changeman admin, and I do not have access to the install or implementation manual, but we are getter some rather ridiculous demands from our team that supports Changeman. Like segregating all Changeman files onto their own pool, exclude all changeman files from GRS, do not perform any space management functions (no migration, no space release). They claim that these practices are recommended by the vendor and most Changeman shops do this ?^%%??. What is so special about Changeman files that they warrant this isolation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cost of SAS
Ted, It's not just the cost. The overall usability of the SAS workplace in a GUI is IMO streets ahead of the 3270 CUA equivalent. If SAS is running with very little user interaction then the platform is probably irrelevant in many cases. The platform that gives the best TCO would be the right choice, and that's where z/OS plays well. However, where there is a lot of interaction and unstructured access, such as Business Intelligence, I feel that the SAS Workplace offered on other platforms is far more productive than the z/OS platform. Windows is not the only platform. There are probably some instances where server licenses on Solaris, HP-UX, or even Windows 2008 would make more sense, and give a better TCO than mega-multiple Windows licenses. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 9:14 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Cost of SAS would never want to go back to running SAS on a MF. Some things do run better on other platforms. It depends. I worked in two shops where 'everybody' used SAS. In that case, one mainframe licence was cheaper than mega-multiple PC licences, and the data was all shared. If just your performance/capacity analysts, and a few others use it the PC solution makes sense. But, if you get up to a couple 100 or more, as always, the mainframe economy of scale makes more sense. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Latch Errors
Does anyone know of a command that can be executed on z/OS that will display data base latch errors? ...or something in RMF that will show me if we are getting them? (this is for an Oracle data base but I'm looking for a z/OS command) Thanks, Mary -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
If you are trying to impress me, well, it worked!! :-D -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:44 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME If you have Cheryl Watson's current Tuning Newletter - I am in it. It looks like she picked up my discussion on the new feature in z/OS V1.9 ISPF 3.17. Does anyone have her email address? I would like to send her a thank you. Lizette NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
IBM does not, to my knowledge, disclose any details about their customers. Institutions that may use the facility often frown upon any public discussions. Even if they were willing, they have their customers' wishes to consider. What would you like to know? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list According to the ICSF documentation ICSF API (with crypto HW) do support financial functions like PIN verification. Is any customer reference list available ? Maybe somewhere on IBM website? Other suppliers provide such lists. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
che...@watsonwalker.com Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com 1/22/2009 12:43 PM If you have Cheryl Watson's current Tuning Newletter - I am in it. It looks like she picked up my discussion on the new feature in z/OS V1.9 ISPF 3.17. Does anyone have her email address? I would like to send her a thank you. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Changeman on Z
Andy, That is the way it was installed here many years ago (10+). So I guess that is what the vendor recommends. Our new DASD ADM is just starting to address the SB37 abends when the package files start growing. We do not handle migration of these files using HSM. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Andy Murawski Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 12:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Changeman on Z Thanks Rogers, You indicate you may explore excluding these files from Migration and Space release, why? I am not a Changeman admin, and I do not have access to the install or implementation manual, but we are getter some rather ridiculous demands from our team that supports Changeman. Like segregating all Changeman files onto their own pool, exclude all changeman files from GRS, do not perform any space management functions (no migration, no space release). They claim that these practices are recommended by the vendor and most Changeman shops do this ?^%%??. What is so special about Changeman files that they warrant this isolation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html 8 This E-Mail transmission (and/or the documents accompanying it) may contain information belonging to the sender which is confidential, privileged and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. The information is intended only for the use of the individual(s) or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this E-Mail transmission in error, please immediately notify us by return E-Mail or telephone to arrange for return of its contents including any documents. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cheryl Watson's Current Newsletter and ME
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Re: Cost of SAS
It's not just the cost. The overall usability of the SAS workplace in a GUI is IMO streets ahead of the 3270 CUA equivalent. Possibly, but with the CUA it only matters for online. I admit that most of the work was batch, which beat windows/*NIX implementations. But, at one company, we got free education on the UI (notice no G). It come down to 'it depends'. We had enough users and shared data, that it was cost-effective on the mainframe. As, I said it was more than the performance/capacity geeks (I can use that word because I have been a geek since 1981). As always, YMMV. We also had the SAS started task running, that allowed you to access the mainframe SAS file from your PC. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
Hal Merritt wrote: IBM does not, to my knowledge, disclose any details about their customers. Institutions that may use the facility often frown upon any public discussions. Even if they were willing, they have their customers' wishes to consider. What would you like to know? I'd like to present to some guys a list of banks / companies using IBM crypto hardware for PIN verification. Just to prove that mainframe crypto HW is secure enough to provide such services. To show this is not experiment, rather industry standard. To prove that mainframe is reliable, secure, proven platform ;-) It need not be official list, so if someone wants to contact me off-list and say hey, I'm working for ABC-bank, we are using crypto-HW for PIN verification for years... The largest company the better ;-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:18 -0500, Art Celestini spamb...@celestini.com wrote: Sounds like a form of System Integrity Exposure (in DB2) to me. Technically, no. First, our System Integrity commitment is very specific about what it covers, and system slowdowns are not within that definition of System Integrity. Second, our System Integrity commitment covers protection from unauthorized code, and DB2 runs authorized. Note that I'm not saying there is no problem nor DB2 should not be fixed. However, it's not system integrity. I simply don't know enough about the problem to know whether it's really something wrong in DB2 or elsewhere, so while it looks like a problem I can't say what needs to be fixed. -- Walt Farrell, CISSP IBM STSM, z/OS Security Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
Rather than a list of user's of the HW crypto feature, would not the security/certification level of the IBM processor's be even more impressive? HITACHI DATA SYSTEMS Raymond E. Noal Senior Technical Engineer Office: (408) 970 - 7978 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list Hal Merritt wrote: IBM does not, to my knowledge, disclose any details about their customers. Institutions that may use the facility often frown upon any public discussions. Even if they were willing, they have their customers' wishes to consider. What would you like to know? I'd like to present to some guys a list of banks / companies using IBM crypto hardware for PIN verification. Just to prove that mainframe crypto HW is secure enough to provide such services. To show this is not experiment, rather industry standard. To prove that mainframe is reliable, secure, proven platform ;-) It need not be official list, so if someone wants to contact me off-list and say hey, I'm working for ABC-bank, we are using crypto-HW for PIN verification for years... The largest company the better ;-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2008 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA wynosi 118.642.672 zote i zosta w caoci wpacony. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: T3 files complaint against IBM
Roger Bowler wrote: It's good to see that T3 Technologies has not yet given up the struggle to bring back competition into the IBM mainframe market. http://openmainframe.org/featured-articles/the-t3-technologies-story.html I assume this means T3 wants IBM to buy them. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: T3 files complaint against IBM
After what happened to PSI they must be feeling so left out ! In any case it could be more profitable than quietly fading away. On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 12:31:10 -0800, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Roger Bowler wrote: It's good to see that T3 Technologies has not yet given up the struggle to bring back competition into the IBM mainframe market. http://openmainframe.org/featured-articles/the-t3-technologies-story.html I assume this means T3 wants IBM to buy them. -- Edward E Jaffe -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
As Ted mentioned, Canadian banks use it. It is also used extensively by European banks and those in the Antipodes. What do these banks have in common? They use all the traditional EFT cryptography *plus* the additional functionality for EMV (SmartCards). Also, being inboard, IBM crypto is inherently more secure than attached outboard offerings and benchmarks an order of magnitude faster. Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 20:24:28 +0100 From: r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl Subject: Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Hal Merritt wrote: IBM does not, to my knowledge, disclose any details about their customers. Institutions that may use the facility often frown upon any public discussions. Even if they were willing, they have their customers' wishes to consider. What would you like to know? I'd like to present to some guys a list of banks / companies using IBM crypto hardware for PIN verification. Just to prove that mainframe crypto HW is secure enough to provide such services. To show this is not experiment, rather industry standard. To prove that mainframe is reliable, secure, proven platform ;-) It need not be official list, so if someone wants to contact me off-list and say hey, I'm working for ABC-bank, we are using crypto-HW for PIN verification for years... The largest company the better ;-) -- Radoslaw Skorupka _ Windows Live™: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t2_allup_explore_012009 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
Greg Shirey wrote: FWIW, our company has been running on two logical CPs for around 10 years. Maybe we are just dumb and happy, but we consider ourselves safe and have not suffered through any experience to indicate otherwise. Some years ago, we upgraded from a 9672-R11 to a 9672-RX2. Our lives changed forever. That was the end of the stalls, hangs, and other facts of uniprocessor life to which we had unfortunately become accustomed after decades of small mainframe exposure. Three CPs might be incrementally better. (We use four CPs now.) But, no change could have been more dramatic than going from one CP to two. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
64-bit COBOL
(New but follow-on thread), There are now and have been ever since the question was first raised at least three different issues (IMHO). 1) The one that Clark and others have TRIED to communicate to IBM, but which seems hard to convey - or at least difficult to hear that IBM understands is the MESSAGE conveyed to upper management by the fact that there are 64-bit C/C++, Java, and Assembler but not COBOL. What MANAGEMENT hears is that COBOL IS NOT STRATEGIC (to IBM) and now is the time to try and limit new development and move to NEW paradigms. It reminds me a lot of what happened when IBM first introduced the CCCA product and did as a program offering rather than a program product. This sent a message to customers (or those in management that make buying decisions) and a good product was avoided by many shops. So tell, me how much will customers pay to not hear words but to SEE that COBOL is AS strategic as C/C++ and Java? I don't know, but I do know that IBM is (intentionally or not) sending a message to their customers that COBOL just doesn't rank as highly as other languages. 2) The second question has always been, give us a real world example of a business application that canNOT be done in 31-bit COBOL, but could be in 64-bit COBOL. With XML, GLOBs, BLOBs, etc this is starting to because more of a real world issue. However, again what I have heard from customers is that *IF* we wait to show you such examples and you THEN start developing a 64-bit COBOL, it will be WAY too late before you can deliver it. Again, we will simply have to move from COBOL to other languages (and won't ever return) while your are doing that development. 3) The final issue and this is certainly MY personal big issue is the one of mixed AMODE(31) and AMODE(64) applications. This is available today for Assembler (sort-of) but not for any LE application (at least in any supported way). I am not an AIX user, but it sounds as if the 64-bit COBOL for AIX is an all or nothing environment. If that is the case (at any time in the future) for COBOL on z/OS, then I agree, don't bother. *** Primarily, this note was intended to get that first message across (again) about the ranking of COBOL as perceived by customers given the delivery of 64-bit languages but not COBOL. I do (again personally) understand about resources (in IBM), priorities, and business cases. I just wish that I heard (or heard more often) from IBM that they understand what message they are sending out with their current PUBLIC responses to the 64-bit issue. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ICSF and VISA/MasterCard?amex reference list
Additionally, under PCI you have to separate test and production.. which for the external boxes... means buying more. Not so for the CEX2C's since they can be shared across LPARs. I agree about the speed. I am not sure that the actual processors run that much faster.. but the ability to use an internal connection v.s. tcp/ip connection alone makes a huge difference. For pin crypt/decrypt there should be something like 2-3 ms response times should be possible YMMV. Which is very good considering what all is being done for you. Of course some of the response times are dependent on the programmers invoking the services. I am sure IBM has some reference customers... but I don't think you'll see a list of all customers using it. Companies get very funny about this stuff. Cheers, Rob Schramm Sirius Computer Solutions -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SMPE Retry problem.
Hello all, I would like to back out and redo every thing done by the smpe run below. How could I go about this? Retry/Redo did nothing. //SMPCNTL DD * SETBOUNDARY(LM2PWMT) OPTIONS(OPTLMK) . APPLY APARS PTFS FORFMID(LTMV410) JCLINREPORT GROUPEXTEND BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM ( DOC ACTION DEP ) ) SOURCEID ( MOM0109 ) RETRY(YES) . Thanks _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPE Retry problem.
Howard, Seriously, you work for a bank in NYC, why do you not apply for Bail Out' money and then you go to an Island in the West Indies ? Otherwise, I would have to ask you, which IBM lecturers taught you because we need to retrench 16,000 IBM employees and you can help us, with this task. Anton On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:01:59 -0500, Howard Rifkind rifki...@emigrant.com wrote: Hello all, I would like to back out and redo every thing done by the smpe run below. How could I go about this? Retry/Redo did nothing. //SMPCNTL DD * SETBOUNDARY(LM2PWMT) OPTIONS(OPTLMK) . APPLY APARS PTFS FORFMID(LTMV410) JCLINREPORT GROUPEXTEND BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM ( DOC ACTION DEP ) ) SOURCEID ( MOM0109 ) RETRY(YES) . Thanks _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Resolving an ALIAS
Hi, Wonder if anyone can help with a small issue I'm having, trying to understand how an ALIAS gets resolved. We are installing a product on a zOS system that utilises MQ to pass messages to/from a DB2 Subsystem. When we asked the client for certain MQ dataset names, they came back with SYS5.MQ..whatever saying that the was using an ALIAS to determine which version was being used. Therefore, we wouldn't need to change the dataset names when/if we used a new version. Could anyone explain how that works or, point me to a manual that could explain it. Many thanks, Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ERRET completion code for asynch cross mem POST
Authorized Assembler Services References, volume 3, SA22-7611 -Original Message- From: Jim Whitehurst j...@jimwhitehurst.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:01 am Subject: ERRET completion code for asynch cross mem POST Can anyone point me to documention on interpreting the contents of Reg 3 on entry to an ERRET routine from the POST macro? Thanks Jim Whitehurst -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SMPE Retry problem.
Howard, The way I would approach this is to identify each and every PTF that was applied. Then create a RESTORE of each and every ptf. This will take time as anything that had not been accepted is also a potential PTF that needs to be restore. You could wind up with 1000's of PTFs that need to be restored. I have done it this way in the past. Second option: Look at the REDO parameter of Apply command. Unless you have a bad PTF in this group REDO will reapply all your PTFs. Third Option: Did you take a backup of your SMPE environment (all Global, Tlibs, and Dlibs)? If so, restore the system and start again. If none of that works, then start with a fresh SMP/E Environment and install from scratch. Lizette Hello all, I would like to back out and redo every thing done by the smpe run below. How could I go about this? Retry/Redo did nothing. //SMPCNTL DD * SETBOUNDARY(LM2PWMT) OPTIONS(OPTLMK) . APPLY APARS PTFS FORFMID(LTMV410) JCLINREPORT GROUPEXTEND BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM ( DOC ACTION DEP ) ) SOURCEID ( MOM0109 ) RETRY(YES) . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Resolving an ALIAS
This can be complicated... but I am going to describe a simple one. Personally, I like aliases just fine. I find that I am usually in the minority of sysprogs when it comes to using aliases... since As long as you are fairly uncomplicated in the system setup, it is just a matter of defining an alias something like DEF ALIAS(NAME(SYS5.MQ.ALIAS) REL(SYS5.MQ.REAL)) Which allows the catalog to decide where the alias is to be defined. When you want to get rid of the alias... DEL SYS5.MQ.ALIAS ALIAS As long as there is dynamic allocation or JCL involved .. it should always resolve the ALIAS to the REAL name. There is always much more than what I have described. You can hit the DFSMS bookshelf for IDCAMS and CATALOG for additional information. Rob Schramm Sirius Computer Solutions -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: ACF2: populating UID string from job name?
I'm not sure that you want to be messing with the UID. Can't you just issue a SAF AUTH call with an ENTITY containing whatever it is you want to check? That would be similar in concept to the JESJOBS SUBMIT ENTITY SUBMIT.NODENAME.JOBNAME.USERID. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Def alias error in RACF
Colleagues, follow up this problem
Yes, the user for both purpose is the same (so as to execute the DEF through
IDCAMS and run in the command line the DEF command)
Separate, review the IKJTSOnn members on every Host and LPAR where the trouble
exists (actually on the installation where we work, there are 10 mainframes
between production and development environments; 4 of tall the mainframes are
who have this problem; and the AUTHCMD section already contains the DEF and
DEFINE (Rdef and Rdefine) commands.
According a documentation of IBM, the last code after execute in the command
line the RDEF means this next:
RETURN CODE 56 Explanation: A security verification failed.
Reason Code 36
Explanation: The caller is not authorized. When no profile exists for functions
that require RACF authorization, the caller must be at least APF authorized.
The question is, what kind of resource must be missing that protects this
resources into APF definitions or which must be the root of this trouble?
Thanks for your help.
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:40:06 -0600 From: jch...@ussco.com Subject: Re:
Def alias error in RACF To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu -Original
Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Carlos
CorderoColleagues, Somebody can help me to know what
causes the next error at the moment to define an Alias in a RACF
environment with z/OS V1.7 release?At the moment to send the request
in command line (through the RACF command 'define alias'); not with the
idcams utility; appears the next error: Menu List Mode
Functions Utilities Help
sss
sss ISPF Command Shell Enter TSO or Workstation commands below:
=== def alias (name ('xm0007') relate ('UCATCOBD.USER')) [ snip ]
IDC3018I SECURITY VERIFICATION FAILED+ IDC0014I LASTCC=12 IDC3009I **
VSAM CATALOG RETURN CODE IS 56 - REASON CODE IS IGG0CLFT-36 ***
And of course, when we run the Define Alias through the idcams utility,
its ok. Actually, that's a TSO command, not a RACF command. Is the same
user ID issuing the TSO command as is running the batch IDCAMS job? My first
guess is that the TSO user issuing the DEFINE ALIAS command does not have
UPDATE authority to the master catalog, while the batch user ID does. AFAIK,
IDCAMS makes the same RACF checks in either environment (TSO or batch).
If the same user ID is used in both cases, you might inspect PARMLIB member
IKJTSOnn to ensure that DEFINE (and DEF) are listed in the AUTHCMD section.
-jc- Thanks for your Help Date: Wed, 14 Jan
2009 15:35:02 -0600 From: k...@dovetail.com Subject: Re: Eclipse
articles To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Also of interest may be the IBM JZOS
Cookbook, which is a book and an Eclipse project containing lots of
sample code. It only requires that you have z/OS and the (free) z/OS
Java SDK along with free open source software such as Eclipse, Spring,
Ant, Apache java tools, etc. It is focused on using the JZOS batch
launcher and toolkit (part of the z/OS Java SDK). The examples in the
cookbook can also be used in conjunction with the RDz IDE. The JZOS
Cookbook is one of the downloads available from the JZOS alphaworks
site: http://www.alphaworks.ibm.com/tech/zosjavabatchtk Questions on
the cookbook or sample project can be posted to the JZOS alphaworks
forum Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at
8:21 AM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: I know this is not
directly applicable. However, there may be mainframe shops which are
using the RDz (or whatever IBM is calling it this week) IDE in addition
to ISPF. RDz is based on Eclipse. I've never gotten the hang of
Eclipse. These articles may help.
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/views/opensource/libraryview.jsp?sear
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http://preview.tinyurl.com/9u5phz -- John --
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Re: SMPE Retry problem.
Lizette Thanks for the suggestions...I'll check out the redo. Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com 1/22/2009 5:59 PM Howard, The way I would approach this is to identify each and every PTF that was applied. Then create a RESTORE of each and every ptf. This will take time as anything that had not been accepted is also a potential PTF that needs to be restore. You could wind up with 1000's of PTFs that need to be restored. I have done it this way in the past. Second option: Look at the REDO parameter of Apply command. Unless you have a bad PTF in this group REDO will reapply all your PTFs. Third Option: Did you take a backup of your SMPE environment (all Global, Tlibs, and Dlibs)? If so, restore the system and start again. If none of that works, then start with a fresh SMP/E Environment and install from scratch. Lizette Hello all, I would like to back out and redo every thing done by the smpe run below. How could I go about this? Retry/Redo did nothing. //SMPCNTL DD * SETBOUNDARY(LM2PWMT) OPTIONS(OPTLMK) . APPLY APARS PTFS FORFMID(LTMV410) JCLINREPORT GROUPEXTEND BYPASS ( HOLDSYSTEM ( DOC ACTION DEP ) ) SOURCEID ( MOM0109 ) RETRY(YES) . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html _ LEGAL NOTICE Unless expressly stated otherwise, this message is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. Access to this E-mail by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not an addressee, any disclosure or copying of the contents of this E-mail or any action taken (or not taken) in reliance on it is unauthorized and may be unlawful. If you are not an addressee, please inform the sender immediately, then delete this message and empty from your trash. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Resolving an ALIAS
I use aliases all the time with the spin-off SMF files, especially the monthlies. I/we create at least ten different daily and monthly SMF data files (we feed SMF data to other areas), I noticed that some of the other areas that use the monthly files, sometimes run the same file through their software more than a few times. Turns out they forgot which GDG version number represented which monthly tape. I did that myself on occasion. It's even more of a pain when processing daily files... Monday the input is, say..., (-1), but on Tuesday it's (-2) and so. Same thing with the monthly files, especially around the end of the month. So, in our daily SMF processing cycle, every GDG that we create is also assigned a statically named alias. For example..., SMF.MONTHLY.G0011V00 is SMF.SYSTEM.DATA.JAN2008 and the same convention is used for daily files. Best thing about this method is when the base file goes away, i.e. the GDG, the alias goes away with it. It works great. Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Lister Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Resolving an ALIAS Hi, Wonder if anyone can help with a small issue I'm having, trying to understand how an ALIAS gets resolved. We are installing a product on a zOS system that utilises MQ to pass messages to/from a DB2 Subsystem. When we asked the client for certain MQ dataset names, they came back with SYS5.MQ..whatever saying that the was using an ALIAS to determine which version was being used. Therefore, we wouldn't need to change the dataset names when/if we used a new version. Could anyone explain how that works or, point me to a manual that could explain it. Many thanks, Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Def alias error in RACF
---snip- Colleagues, follow up this problem Yes, the user for both purpose is the same (so as to execute the DEF through IDCAMS and run in the command line the DEF command) Separate, review the IKJTSOnn members on every Host and LPAR where the trouble exists (actually on the installation where we work, there are 10 mainframes between production and development environments; 4 of tall the mainframes are who have this problem; and the AUTHCMD section already contains the DEF and DEFINE (Rdef and Rdefine) commands. According a documentation of IBM, the last code after execute in the command line the RDEF means this next: RETURN CODE 56 Explanation: A security verification failed. Reason Code 36 Explanation: The caller is not authorized. When no profile exists for functions that require RACF authorization, the caller must be at least APF authorized. The question is, what kind of resource must be missing that protects this resources into APF definitions or which must be the root of this trouble? Thanks for your help. -unsnip If I remember correctly, you also need ALTER access to the DSNAMES involved. -- Rick -- Remember that if you’re not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: AIX gets 64 bit COBOL but still none for Z/os ...
Meanwhile, COBOL customers are beating us up about XML validation, XMLSS, Unicode, useability features and many other things besides AMODE 64 COBOL. We have to do it all right? Why does COBOL need XML handling? Is it generating in line code as opposed to setting up calls as is the case for CICS and SQL? I would agree that getting Unicode, the usages in the 2002 standard (with the floating point being IEEE leaving COMP-1 and COMP-2 for hex floating point) and other things useful for inter-operability is more important. If you knew IBM COBOL users today, you would not be asking this question. My first reaction was Are you kidding me? but then I realized that you probably have not been to SHARE COBOL sessions or have direct access to COBOL customer feedback like I do, so here you go. Users need to process XML documents in COBOL because they process all of their data with COBOL, that is the language of most z/OS installations. XML features of COBOL have been the most quickly adopted new features of COBOL in my 25 years of IBM COBOL development. We shipped AMODE 31 in 1984, Intrinsic Functions in 1991, OO in 1995, but many users are still running below the line, don't use built-in functions, never tried OO, and are not even using EVALUATE or END-IF. On the other hand, just a few weeks after we shipped XML PARSE support (yes, XML parsing done directly by the COBOL object program) we had customers telling us This is great, when can I do a validating parse against a DTD?. The month after we shipped XML GENERATE, we had similar requests for more function. There are thousands of z/OS COBOL programs producing and processing XML documents today! We can't keep up with demand. On the other hand, we know that we need to do AMODE 64 COBOL someday, but not one customer has asked IBM COBOL development to do it yet. Cheers, TomR COBOL is the Language of the Future! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Def alias error in RACF
Hi Carlos, Rick is correct, you need to have ALTER for the dataset to run the define. If you are trying to define the high level qualifier, you must have RACF access to the master catalogue. Additionally, in most shops these days, RACF is setup not to allow 'unprotected resources' to be defined. A RACF dataset profile must exist first before the definecan run. A quick and easy way to check - without needing to know or run any RACF commands - is to attempt to rename a test dataset to the dataset name you are trying to work with. TSO 3.4 panel is what I use. If you have a RACF issue, the rename will fail and you should give some helpful messages. Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Rick Fochtman rfocht...@ync.net Colleagues, follow up this problem Yes, the user for both purpose is the same (so as to execute the DEF through IDCAMS and run in the command line the DEF command) Separate, review the IKJTSOnn members on every Host and LPAR where the trouble exists (actually on the installation where we work, there are 10 mainframes between production and development environments; 4 of tall the mainframes are who have this problem; and the AUTHCMD section already contains the DEF and DEFINE (Rdef and Rdefine) commands. According a documentation of IBM, the last code after execute in the command line the RDEF means this next: RETURN CODE 56 Explanation: A security verification failed. Reason Code 36 Explanation: The caller is not authorized. When no profile exists for functions that require RACF authorization, the caller must be at least APF authorized. The question is, what kind of resource must be missing that protects this resources into APF definitions or which must be the root of this trouble? Thanks for your help. - If I remember correctly, you also need ALTER access to the DSNAMES involved. -- Rick -- Remember that if youre not the lead dog, the view never changes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Resolving an ALIAS
Boy, do I feel stupid. For some reason I thought the OP asked a different question. Really sorry for the topic drift. :( Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Resolving an ALIAS I use aliases all the time with the spin-off SMF files, especially the monthlies. I/we create at least ten different daily and monthly SMF data files (we feed SMF data to other areas), I noticed that some of the other areas that use the monthly files, sometimes run the same file through their software more than a few times. Turns out they forgot which GDG version number represented which monthly tape. I did that myself on occasion. It's even more of a pain when processing daily files... Monday the input is, say..., (-1), but on Tuesday it's (-2) and so. Same thing with the monthly files, especially around the end of the month. So, in our daily SMF processing cycle, every GDG that we create is also assigned a statically named alias. For example..., SMF.MONTHLY.G0011V00 is SMF.SYSTEM.DATA.JAN2008 and the same convention is used for daily files. Best thing about this method is when the base file goes away, i.e. the GDG, the alias goes away with it. It works great. Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Lister Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Resolving an ALIAS Hi, Wonder if anyone can help with a small issue I'm having, trying to understand how an ALIAS gets resolved. We are installing a product on a zOS system that utilises MQ to pass messages to/from a DB2 Subsystem. When we asked the client for certain MQ dataset names, they came back with SYS5.MQ..whatever saying that the was using an ALIAS to determine which version was being used. Therefore, we wouldn't need to change the dataset names when/if we used a new version. Could anyone explain how that works or, point me to a manual that could explain it. Many thanks, Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Resolving an ALIAS
Hey Gary, Don't feel bad. Turns out you replied with something useful for ME! We have exactly the same issue you described. So how did you implement your dataset alias solution? Is it automated? Can you share some code? TIA, Linda Mooney -- Original message -- From: Gary Green g...@evergreen-systems.com Boy, do I feel stupid. For some reason I thought the OP asked a different question. Really sorry for the topic drift. :( Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Green Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:47 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Resolving an ALIAS I use aliases all the time with the spin-off SMF files, especially the monthlies. I/we create at least ten different daily and monthly SMF data files (we feed SMF data to other areas), I noticed that some of the other areas that use the monthly files, sometimes run the same file through their software more than a few times. Turns out they forgot which GDG version number represented which monthly tape. I did that myself on occasion. It's even more of a pain when processing daily files... Monday the input is, say..., (-1), but on Tuesday it's (-2) and so. Same thing with the monthly files, especially around the end of the month. So, in our daily SMF processing cycle, every GDG that we create is also assigned a statically named alias. For example..., SMF.MONTHLY.G0011V00 is SMF.SYSTEM.DATA.JAN2008 and the same convention is used for daily files. Best thing about this method is when the base file goes away, i.e. the GDG, the alias goes away with it. It works great. Gary Green Never use a 2x4 when a 2x6 will do just as well! -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rob Lister Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Resolving an ALIAS Hi, Wonder if anyone can help with a small issue I'm having, trying to understand how an ALIAS gets resolved. We are installing a product on a zOS system that utilises MQ to pass messages to/from a DB2 Subsystem. When we asked the client for certain MQ dataset names, they came back with SYS5.MQ..whatever saying that the was using an ALIAS to determine which version was being used. Therefore, we wouldn't need to change the dataset names when/if we used a new version. Could anyone explain how that works or, point me to a manual that could explain it. Many thanks, Rob -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS 4 minute 'outage' (final update)
Walt: I agree it is not a z/OS exposure per se, but no application-level code should be able to bring the system to it knees. It certainly seems that the fault lies in DB2, but DB2, like any other good, authorized citizen, has a responsibility to ensure that it doesn't create a set of circumstances where the system's well being could be compromised. Art At 02:27 PM 1/22/2009, Walt Farrell wrote: On Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:36:18 -0500, Art Celestini spamb...@celestini.com wrote: Sounds like a form of System Integrity Exposure (in DB2) to me. Technically, no. First, our System Integrity commitment is very specific about what it covers, and system slowdowns are not within that definition of System Integrity. Second, our System Integrity commitment covers protection from unauthorized code, and DB2 runs authorized. Note that I'm not saying there is no problem nor DB2 should not be fixed. However, it's not system integrity. I simply don't know enough about the problem to know whether it's really something wrong in DB2 or elsewhere, so while it looks like a problem I can't say what needs to be fixed. == Art Celestini Celestini Development Services Phone: 201-670-1674Wyckoff, NJ = http://celestini.com = Mail sent to the From address used in this post will be rejected by our server. Please send off- list email to: ibmmainat-signcelestinidotcom. == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: GDPS Questions
Another questions, does the CF on both primary and secondary sites should have the same CFCC level code in order to talk to each other? Regards, Jason -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jason To Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: GDPS Questions While waiting for the STP, we have decided/proceeded to implement and setup GDPS on a single site (BRS config) using two LPARs acting as primary and secondary site and a controlling system for our testing and for familiarization purpose. GDPS, SA and netview have been setup and working properly. Right now, our STP and most of the hardware have arrived and we will be able to implement the multisite active-active solution. My question is what are the things we have to prepare and adjust? Isn't it just by moving the acting secondary site system and controlling system from the primary site to secondary site DASD volumes, we should be able to re-IPL the secondary system just like before? Any user experience switching from single site to multisite? TIA. Regards, Jason -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Resolving an ALIAS
Would you have a look at symbolicrelate parm in define alias I guess that is what you need I wrote about it in a previous life chapter 2.4 in SG24-5336 www.redbooks.ibm.com/redbooks/pdfs/sg245336.pdf Bruno Sugliani zxnetconsult(at)free(dot)fr http://zxnetconsult.free.fr On Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:35:38 -0600, Rob Lister rob.lis...@aciworldwide.com wrote: saying that the was using an ALIAS to determine which version was being used. Therefore, we wouldn't need to change the dataset names when/if we used a new version. Could anyone explain how that works or, point me to a manual that could explain it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Problem with RMF vsam dataset
I've used this JCL: //PASO20 EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,REGION=6M //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSUDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPROC DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS1.SERBCLS //SYSTSIN DD * PROFILE NOPREFIX PROFILE MSGID %ERBVSDEF 'STS.RMF.LNA4.MONI3.VSAM01' VSAMVOL(SIS601) TRACKS (15000) The rest of dataset have been created with the same jcl and work right. Regards -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
