Re: Looking for solution Mainframe system management report tool
Some or all of these IBM products would in all likelihood satisfy the requirements: Tivoli Decision Support for z/OS http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/tds-zos/ Tivoli Usage and Accounting Manager http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/usage-accounting/ zSecure Audit and/or zSecure Alert http://www.ibm.com/software/tivoli/products/zsecure/ - - - - - Timothy Sipples Resident Enterprise Architect Value Creation Complex Deals Team IBM Growth Markets (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3490E volume limits
W dniu 2011-06-20 19:15, Mike Schwab pisze: I know our STK9840C 40GB drives were defined as IBM 3590. That's OK, but (at least for 9840A and B) you could define them as 3490 as well. Also other types of hardware and emulated tape drives do offer such definition. However my question just out of curiosity - I just wanted to settle what's the true about the limits. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Treść tej wiadomości może zawierać informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wyłącznie do użytku służbowego adresata. Odbiorcą może być jedynie jej adresat z wyłączeniem dostępu osób trzecich. Jeżeli nie jesteś adresatem niniejszej wiadomości lub pracownikiem upoważnionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, że jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne działanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i może być karalne. Jeżeli otrzymałeś tę wiadomość omyłkowo, prosimy niezwłocznie zawiadomić nadawcę wysyłając odpowiedź oraz trwale usunąć tę wiadomość włączając w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sąd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydział Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sądowego, nr rejestru przedsiębiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Według stanu na dzień 01.01.2011 r. kapitał zakładowy BRE Banku SA (w całości wpłacony) wynosi 168.346.696 złotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?
I submitted it as RCF (Reader's Comment Form) to IBM. The manual say *NOTHING* what to do in case you don't have those products. IMHO it's one of the most irritating things in the ServerPac. Oh, btw - IBM didn't reacted to the RCF in any way. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2011-06-20 23:52, Skip Robinson pisze: I'm most of the way through a ServerPac install and stumbling on a job that wants to set CALLLIBS for products installed in other CSIs--and managed by other people--or products that we don't even own. These libraries are choking points: CICS.SDFHLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere DSN.SDSNLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere IMS.SDFSRESL -- no DDDEF because we don't own IMS at all I could jury-rig the first two by pointing the DDDEF to some current-version-du-jour library, but IMS is not even a stretch. System Automation is particularly fond of releasing PTFs that require CALLLIBS. How do other people get through this? -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osób trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2011 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 168.346.696 zotych. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Sandro Ambrozic sandro.ambro...@gmail.com wrote in message news:banlktiktrxl9otiuhtjfgorlabanwft...@mail.gmail.com... 2011/6/20 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Ok, typo. I meant to say list-server. This explains the rest of my text. Kees. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sorry, i picked the wrong bookmark to enter the initial post. Back to WLM, the problem was, after a DR test, having switched CDSs to the newly defined one in the secondary site, in the way back, the WLM switch to the original CDS in primary site failed for internal size reasons. We were forced to re-define the CDS to be able to activate it. Both new definitions were made based on the values extracted from the active production CDS at the begining of this process, at least, that's our assumption. This CDS was allocated in 2009, when we were at z/OS 1.8 level, now we have a 1.10 and 1.11 mix. What we want now is to be able to examine the alternate 2009 CDS that was preserved, to find out what was exactly the reason for this problem. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Creating a BASIC sysplex between two VM Guests
Hi, Is it possible to create a BASIC sysplex between two VM guests? Both guests are running under the same physical machine. Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: mvs command execution using batch job
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:01:15 -0500 Rajender Vemula r...@ntrs.com wrote: :Good Day, :I want to execute some set of display commands (like D GRS,ENQ,C) on :console is there any batch utility to do that? . Can i automate this batch :job to execute on scheduled time. Finally Can I write the output of these :commands to any output dataset?. Provide me a sample JCL or Rexx to :implement this. :I have OPSMVS and also Contorl-M for automation. Very simple with OPS/MVS. Based on memory: Create a )TOD rule to fire at the frequency you desire. address OPER D GRS,ENQ,C do while QUEUED() 0 PULL response /* process the line */ end -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3490E volume limits
Radoslaw, I believe the 'limit' that most likely causes problems is the block ID. 3490/3590 devices use different formats. If you look at the doc for the NOTE and POINT macros for sequential data sets in DFSMS pubs you will get some idea of the differences. Basically, the 3490 blkid limited the number of blocks written to the tape. When small blocks are used you might not be able to use the entire tape media. The blkid for 3590 supports many more blocks. Depending on how the data is accessed, having more blocks on an emulated tape than can be addressed by blkid, may not be a problem. Or, perhaps the emulation uses newer blkid format, and as long as mvs does not manipulate them, they likely work ok. As for tape capacity, the system has always made assumptions about this based on the media and recording format detected and used. However, with virtual devices, there was recent support added ( library and dfsms) to allow the library to pass the volume capacity to the system. You can see a field in the IFGTEP control blocks where the capacity can be passed from OPEN to the tape management system - this works for all real '3590' and recent IBM virtual library levels. Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Creating a BASIC sysplex between two VM Guests
I'm fairly sure you can using VM's VCTC to connect the guests with a Virtual CTC. You'd likely need to IPL CMS to have it's PROFILE EXEC do a CP COUPLE, then IPL z/OS. On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 11:08 +0300, גדי בן אבי wrote: Hi, Is it possible to create a BASIC sysplex between two VM guests? Both guests are running under the same physical machine. Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed?
Hi, I deleted the System Automation FMID for the IMS stuff. Where we do have the product, I just point to the appropriate place (ready to forget when we are running two levels of CICS for instance). Best regards, David Tidy Tel:(31)115-67-1745 IS Technical Management/SAP-Mf Fax:(31)115-67-1762 Dow Benelux B.V. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Skip Robinson Sent: 20 June 2011 23:52 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: How do you manage CALLLIBS for products not installed? I'm most of the way through a ServerPac install and stumbling on a job that wants to set CALLLIBS for products installed in other CSIs--and managed by other people--or products that we don't even own. These libraries are choking points: CICS.SDFHLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere DSN.SDSNLOAD -- no DDDEF because it lives elsewhere IMS.SDFSRESL -- no DDDEF because we don't own IMS at all I could jury-rig the first two by pointing the DDDEF to some current-version-du-jour library, but IMS is not even a stretch. System Automation is particularly fond of releasing PTFs that require CALLLIBS. How do other people get through this? . . JO.Skip Robinson SCE Infrastructure Technology Services Electric Dragon Team Paddler SHARE MVS Program Co-Manager 626-302-7535 Office 323-715-0595 Mobile jo.skip.robin...@sce.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
The z/OS 1.10 migration info on CDS size talks on CDS size only, which in our case didn't change. We defined new CDS in the alternate site, using current WLM configuration values in 1.10, and the created CDS was the same size of our production (let say, 'old') ones. That's why we didn`t expect that redefine the production CDSs would be necessary on the 'back to normal' procedure. The errmsgs were: IXC255I UNABLE TO USE DATA SET SYS1.WLM.TST01.CDS03 AS THE ALTERNATE FOR WLM: ALLOWABLE SIZE OF IWMSVDEF RECORDS IS LESS THAN CURRENT PRIMARY IXC255I UNABLE TO USE DATA SET SYS1.WLM.TST01.CDS03 AS THE ALTERNATE FOR WLM: ALLOWABLE SIZE OF IWMSVPOL RECORDS IS LESS THAN CURRENT PRIMARY IXC250I ALTERNATE COUPLE DATA SET REQUEST FAILED FOR DATA SET SYS1.WLM.TST01.CDS03 FOR WLM: CONSISTENCY CHECKING FAILED FOR THE NEW ALTERNATE DATA SET Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 2011/6/21 Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com Sandro Ambrozic sandro.ambro...@gmail.com wrote in message news:banlktiktrxl9otiuhtjfgorlabanwft...@mail.gmail.com... 2011/6/20 Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net In ce3ffbb7e42033469ef752a1d8a19ba1409...@kl1221tc.cs.ad.klmcorp.net, on 06/20/2011 at 10:02 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com said: 1. this newsgroup is a mirror of the news-server. Most people get their posts only from the newsserver. Ok, typo. I meant to say list-server. This explains the rest of my text. Kees. Not even close. AFAIK most people get their posys from the list server. The is a one-way gateway to Usenet, and google has an archive of Usenet. I suggest you subscribe and ask your question there. You don't subscribe to a news server. Since your message appears on the list, it is clear that you subscribed to the list server. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html Sorry, i picked the wrong bookmark to enter the initial post. Back to WLM, the problem was, after a DR test, having switched CDSs to the newly defined one in the secondary site, in the way back, the WLM switch to the original CDS in primary site failed for internal size reasons. We were forced to re-define the CDS to be able to activate it. Both new definitions were made based on the values extracted from the active production CDS at the begining of this process, at least, that's our assumption. This CDS was allocated in 2009, when we were at z/OS 1.8 level, now we have a 1.10 and 1.11 mix. What we want now is to be able to examine the alternate 2009 CDS that was preserved, to find out what was exactly the reason for this problem. Regards, Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to
Re: Creating a BASIC sysplex between two VM Guests
Thanks -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John McKown Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Creating a BASIC sysplex between two VM Guests I'm fairly sure you can using VM's VCTC to connect the guests with a Virtual CTC. You'd likely need to IPL CMS to have it's PROFILE EXEC do a CP COUPLE, then IPL z/OS. On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 11:08 +0300, גדי בן אבי wrote: Hi, Is it possible to create a BASIC sysplex between two VM guests? Both guests are running under the same physical machine. Thanks Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Creating a BASIC sysplex between two VM Guests
You can also do a parallel sysplex quite easily. See the manual z/VM Running Guest Operating Systems: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/pdf/hcse7b30.pdf Chapters 4 and 8. The key for your CFRM policy is going to be the SIMDEV option on TYPE: DEFINE POLICY NAME(POLICY1) REPLACE(YES) CF NAME(CFCC1) TYPE(SIMDEV) MFG(IBM) PLANT(EN) SEQUENCE(000CFCC1) PARTITION(0) CPCID(00) DUMPSPACE(2000) MA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Creating a BASIC sysplex between two VM Guests
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 05:15:19 -0500 John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: :I'm fairly sure you can using VM's VCTC to connect the guests with a :Virtual CTC. You'd likely need to IPL CMS to have it's PROFILE EXEC do a :CP COUPLE, then IPL z/OS. No need to re-IPL for that. CP commands can be issued from the VM console of the guest. :On Tue, 2011-06-21 at 11:08 +0300, ??? ?? ??? wrote: : Hi, : Is it possible to create a BASIC sysplex between two VM guests? : Both guests are running under the same physical machine. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe I just reduced the screen geometry of my 3270 displays from 90x142 down to 68x142 due to ever-increasing eye strain. When I started in this business, I worked with a 24x80 display. At this rate, I'll probably retire with the same screen geometry I started with... :-D I'm looking at retiring in about 3 years, and still like the 3290 display size -- 62x160 -- on a 19-inch monitor. No, I haven't had the cataract surgery yet. :-) -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Sandro, In z/OS V1R8 (HBB7730), XCF introduced an optional interface that can be exploited by components that own couple data sets (CDSes) to address exactly this problem. When an alternate CDS is rejected because it wasn't formatted for at least the same capacity as the existing primary CDS, XCF calls an exit supplied by the CDS owner to allow the owning component to report the differences between the primary and alternate in terms of the attributes used to format the two CDSes. When the component supports this exit, the format information is reported in message IXC255I with the header RELEVANT typename COUPLE DATA SET FORMAT INFORMATION All CDS types except WLM and sysplex have implemented support for this interface. (The sysplex CDS doesn't use it because there is a very obvious correlation between the record names that appear in IXC255I and the CDS format keywords.) I suggest that you open a PMR or a marketing requirement to request that WLM support the consistency failure interpretation function-level exit for its CDS. Without this support, the only way to determine the differences between the in-use primary CDS and the rejected alternate CDS is to dump the contents of both CDSes using the ADRDSSU utility, open a PMR, and submit the results to IBM Level 2 for analysis. Bill Neiman IBM Parallel Sysplex development -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:36:34 -0400, Dan D mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote: I have an ISPF dialog that needs site specific information. What the data is doesn't really matter, but it is not available in a control block and I do not want to maintain it in each users's ISPF profile. My example below it just that, an example, not really the data to be passed. Rather than having an installation/user specify data by passed it via a SYSIN file or specifying it at the time the program is assembled, it was easy to create an ISPF panel with an )INIT section. This also allows for expansion of data being passed. Let's say the dialog wants the the following information... )INIT NAME='Walter' DEPT='RACF Guru' PHONE='555-654-3210' When the dialog issues... ISPLINK CONTROL,'NONDISPL','ENTER ' ISPLINK DISPLAY,'USERINFO' The variables NAME, DEPT PHONE will automatically be available to the code in an ISPF defined variable. Let's also say the user uses this dialog quite often and knows they will be selecting option 4 when presented with a selection list that is displayed AFTER the processing of this panel occurs. Prior to the addtion of the above code, the user could enter DIALOG;4. Now they have to enter DIALOG;;;4. This seems a little odd to me. I wouln't expect CONTROL,'NONDISPL' to alter the command stack. Thanks, Dan. I had missed that you set it up so the installation or user would alter a different panel. You could, of course, have them alter your dialog's first actual panel, but I can see the benefit to using a separate one. I think you'll find that CONTROL NONDISPL is -not- altering the command stack. Rather, in DIALOG;4 I think you'll find that the ;4 is the response to the first panel the dialog does a DISPLAY for, and it does not matter that you've done a CONTROL NONDISPL. The important thing is you did a DISPLAY, and the ;4 is returned to that panel. I have a couple of suggestions: (1) If USERINFO has a panel body, then the stacked command would be available in the panel's command field (first input field in the body, or some other input field named by )BODY CMD(field-name). Have the )PROC section return that field value to your dialog. (2) Or, possibly, if USERINFO's )BODY statement specifies CMD() (indicating there is no command field) then USERINFO won't capture the stacked command at all. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: mvs command execution using batch job
Raj, I just execute SDSF from batch like this: //STEP2 EXEC PGM=ISF,PARM='++900,250' //ISFOUT DD DSN=amp;LISTOUT,UNIT=SYSDA,DISP=(,PASS), // SPACE=(TRK,(10,10)),RECFM=FBA,LRECL=251,BLKSIZE=0 //ISFINDD * PREFIX OM HTH Steve On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:01:15 -0500, Rajender Vemula r...@ntrs.com wrote: Good Day, I want to execute some set of display commands (like D GRS,ENQ,C) on console is there any batch utility to do that? . Can i automate this batch job to execute on scheduled time. Finally Can I write the output of these commands to any output dataset?. Provide me a sample JCL or Rexx to implement this. I have OPSMVS and also Contorl-M for automation. Thanks Raj -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: mvs command execution using batch job
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 18:16:37 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: But when an operator command is issued from SDSF (or any program) is it generally possible to capture the reply? I suspect z/OS's characteristic adverse layering design (Conway's Law) intrudes here. Ideally, there should be a base layer that issues a command and receives a reply, supporting a higher layer that issues a command read from a console and reflects the reply to that console. I fear the current design is monolithic and not all command replies can be captured. Yes, they can all be captured. The only issue may be that if the command doesn't properly issue the responses then you may not be able to tell that the response is for the command you issued. But once you (a program) sets up a console, you can capture anything that appears on that console. For properly-written command processors the program can supply a response token on the command when it issues the MGCRE macro, and the command processor will include that token on the command response to the command. If the command processor does not support use of the response token, then the program has to capture everything coming to the console and find the responses among all the other messages the console may be seeing. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
JES2 Initiation equivilant of $TJOBCLASS XEQMEMBER
Hi, I can limit the number of jobs running in a certain WLM class by using the $TJOBCLASS commands XEQMEMBER parameter. Is there an equivalent parameters for the JES2 startup parameter? Gadi לשימת לבך, בהתאם לנהלי החברה וזכויות החתימה בה, כל הצעה, התחייבות או מצג מטעם החברה, מחייבים מסמך נפרד וחתום על ידי מורשי החתימה של החברה, הנושא את לוגו החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) המצורף להודעת דואר אלקטרוני זאת, אין לראות באמור בהודעה אלא משום טיוטה לדיון, ואין להסתמך עליה לביצוע פעולה עסקית או משפטית כלשהי. Please note that in accordance with Malam's signatory rights, no offer, agreement, concession or representation is binding on the company, unless accompanied by a duly signed separate document (or a scanned version thereof), affixed with the company's seal. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 Initiation equivilant of $TJOBCLASS XEQMEMBER
I can limit the number of jobs running in a certain WLM class by using the $TJOBCLASS commands XEQMEMBER parameter. Is there an equivalent parameters for the JES2 startup parameter? Gadi You can always place JES2 commands in the Init deck. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: JES2 Initiation equivilant of $TJOBCLASS XEQMEMBER
Check $TJOBCLASS,XEQCOUNT=n This will limit the maximum number of active jobs in the class sysplex-wide. Try XEQCOUNT=MAX=n for the JES init deck. HTH, snip I can limit the number of jobs running in a certain WLM class by using the $TJOBCLASS commands XEQMEMBER parameter. Is there an equivalent parameters for the JES2 startup parameter? /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: mvs command execution using batch job
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 07:55:11 -0500, Walt Farrell wrote: Yes, they can all be captured. The only issue may be that if the command doesn't properly issue the responses then you may not be able to tell that the response is for the command you issued. But once you (a program) sets up a console, you can capture anything that appears on that console. Thanks. For properly-written command processors the program can supply a response token on the command when it issues the MGCRE macro, and the command processor will include that token on the command response to the command. If the response contains multiple lines, is there a technique to recognize the last line; some sort of a delimiter line? Is there a convention guaranteeing uniqueness of tokens, or, better, a service to generate unique tokens? If the command processor does not support use of the response token, then the program has to capture everything coming to the console and find the responses among all the other messages the console may be seeing. All in all, the basic design is deficient; haphazard. The calling program should be required to supply a token, MGCRE should enforce uniqueness, and command processors should be required to support tokens. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack
-Original Message- From: Walt Farrell Thanks, Dan. I had missed that you set it up so the installation or user would alter a different panel. You could, of course, have them alter your dialog's first actual panel, but I can see the benefit to using a separate one. I think you'll find that CONTROL NONDISPL is -not- altering the command stack. Rather, in DIALOG;4 I think you'll find that the ;4 is the response to the first panel the dialog does a DISPLAY for, and it does not matter that you've done a CONTROL NONDISPL. The important thing is you did a DISPLAY, and the ;4 is returned to that panel. I have a couple of suggestions: (1) If USERINFO has a panel body, then the stacked command would be available in the panel's command field (first input field in the body, or some other input field named by )BODY CMD(field-name). Have the )PROC section return that field value to your dialog. (2) Or, possibly, if USERINFO's )BODY statement specifies CMD() (indicating there is no command field) then USERINFO won't capture the stacked command at all. -- Walt --- Walt, The )BODY section of the USERINFO panel does contain CMD(). As it is never displayed it only contains a single line of blanks with an attribute byte as the 1st character. You get an error when you have a null )BODY section. Are you saying that the ;4 is returned with the display of he USERINFO panel, even though the user will never actually see this panel? That doesn't sound logical to me. When I zap the code to branch around the call to the module that CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY's the USERINFO panel the DIALOG;4 works as I would expect...option 4 is selected from the first DISPLAYed panel. When the CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY code is invoked, to get the same results I have to enter DIALOG;;;4 (why 2 extra simicolons?). Does this sound like a bug to you? Is a PMR suggested? I'll see if I can create this same scenario with a panels a CLIST. If so, I have something to submit with the PRM. Thanks, Dan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
On Mon, 20 Jun 2011 07:24:54 -0500, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. WLM most certainly relies on IXCL1DSU to format its CDS'. The WLM ISPF dialog can be used to generate the format control cards JCL, but you still have to submit it. See z/OS V1R12 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex, SA22-7625-19, Section 3.3 It is policy update via IXCMIAPU that WLM does not support, at least not by means accessible to us. That is where the WLM ISPF dialog comes in for Define/Install/Activate, or SETXCF to migrate the existing definitions to a new CDS. Regards, Art Gutowski Compuware Corporation -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:40:39 -0400, DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote: The )BODY section of the USERINFO panel does contain CMD(). As it is never displayed it only contains a single line of blanks with an attribute byte as the 1st character. You get an error when you have a null )BODY section. Are you saying that the ;4 is returned with the display of he USERINFO panel, even though the user will never actually see this panel? That doesn't sound logical to me. Yes, that's what I'm suggesting has happened. As for not being logical, you may be right. But note that even without your code, in DIALOG;4 the user never sees the first panel the dialog would display, but the 4 is used as though he had seen it. To me, this is very similar. In both cases, the 4 is used (I think) in response to the first display the dialog performs, and in both cases the user is not seeing that first-displayed panel. When I zap the code to branch around the call to the module that CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY's the USERINFO panel the DIALOG;4 works as I would expect...option 4 is selected from the first DISPLAYed panel. When the CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY code is invoked, to get the same results I have to enter DIALOG;;;4 (why 2 extra simicolons?). I can't explain why you need DIALOG;;;4 rather than DIALOG;;4 which I would have expected. Does this sound like a bug to you? Is a PMR suggested? Perhaps a QA type of PMR, if you have a support contract that allows you to ask questions. As I'm not part of the ISPF team here at IBM I'm not suggesting you've found an ISPF bug. I would start by trying to work around this (or researching it further) by defining a command field on your non-display panel, and seeing what you get when the user enters DIALOG;4. If you get the 4, then you can perhaps pass that back to your dialog for it to operate on, and you have an immediate workaround for your problem. Whether you should need to do that, or not, I really can't say. Someone from ISPF may know, but I don't. And perhaps this is more appropriate for the ISPF-L list than for IBM-MAIN. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Agreed. My previous response was poorly worded. My escape clause is/was: Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. snip There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. WLM most certainly relies on IXCL1DSU to format its CDS'. The WLM ISPF dialog can be used to generate the format control cards JCL, but you still have to submit it. See z/OS V1R12 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex, SA22-7625-19, Section 3.3 It is policy update via IXCMIAPU that WLM does not support, at least not by means accessible to us. That is where the WLM ISPF dialog comes in for Define/Install/Activate, or SETXCF to migrate the existing definitions to a new CDS. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Inactive WLM CDS Information
Thank you all, folks, we will probably open a PMR on IXC255I error. Sandro Ambrozic +34 666 803 223 2011/6/21 Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com Agreed. My previous response was poorly worded. My escape clause is/was: Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. snip There is no format program for the WLM CDS. The WLM CDS is formatted when a policy is installed/activated, or the CDS's are migrated. Create the CDS's using the documented procedures and all should be well. WLM most certainly relies on IXCL1DSU to format its CDS'. The WLM ISPF dialog can be used to generate the format control cards JCL, but you still have to submit it. See z/OS V1R12 MVS Setting Up a Sysplex, SA22-7625-19, Section 3.3 It is policy update via IXCMIAPU that WLM does not support, at least not by means accessible to us. That is where the WLM ISPF dialog comes in for Define/Install/Activate, or SETXCF to migrate the existing definitions to a new CDS. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack
I can't explain why you need DIALOG;;;4 rather than DIALOG;;4 which I would have expected. My CLIST test works with two or more delimiters. Anything more than 2 is ignored. Enter TSO commands below: === dand;;;u.1.1 Regards, John K ISPEXEC CONTROL ERRORS RETURN ISPEXEC CONTROL NONDISPL ENTER NOSETMSG ISPEXEC DISPLAY PANEL(DAND) ISPEXEC SELECT PANEL(TRI@PRIM) ISPEXEC CONTROL ERRORS CANCEL From: Walt Farrell wfarr...@us.ibm.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/21/2011 09:14 AM Subject:Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:40:39 -0400, DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote: The )BODY section of the USERINFO panel does contain CMD(). As it is never displayed it only contains a single line of blanks with an attribute byte as the 1st character. You get an error when you have a null )BODY section. Are you saying that the ;4 is returned with the display of he USERINFO panel, even though the user will never actually see this panel? That doesn't sound logical to me. Yes, that's what I'm suggesting has happened. As for not being logical, you may be right. But note that even without your code, in DIALOG;4 the user never sees the first panel the dialog would display, but the 4 is used as though he had seen it. To me, this is very similar. In both cases, the 4 is used (I think) in response to the first display the dialog performs, and in both cases the user is not seeing that first-displayed panel. When I zap the code to branch around the call to the module that CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY's the USERINFO panel the DIALOG;4 works as I would expect...option 4 is selected from the first DISPLAYed panel. When the CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY code is invoked, to get the same results I have to enter DIALOG;;;4 (why 2 extra simicolons?). I can't explain why you need DIALOG;;;4 rather than DIALOG;;4 which I would have expected. Does this sound like a bug to you? Is a PMR suggested? Perhaps a QA type of PMR, if you have a support contract that allows you to ask questions. As I'm not part of the ISPF team here at IBM I'm not suggesting you've found an ISPF bug. I would start by trying to work around this (or researching it further) by defining a command field on your non-display panel, and seeing what you get when the user enters DIALOG;4. If you get the 4, then you can perhaps pass that back to your dialog for it to operate on, and you have an immediate workaround for your problem. Whether you should need to do that, or not, I really can't say. Someone from ISPF may know, but I don't. And perhaps this is more appropriate for the ISPF-L list than for IBM-MAIN. -- Walt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack
Walt, Yes, normally DIALOG;4 would bypass the 1st panel and pass 4 as it's ZCMD value. The difference between that and the NONDISPL panel is that if the ;4 was not specified the panel would be displayed. The NONDISPL panel will NEVER be seen by the user thus the next segment of the stacked command should not be removed (at least I don't believe it should...ISPF development may think differently). To make it easier to explain to the QA group, I'll get a model CLIST that provides an example of this problem before openning a PMR. Thanks for your help Walt. Dan Walt Farrell wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:40:39 -0400, DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote: The )BODY section of the USERINFO panel does contain CMD(). As it is never displayed it only contains a single line of blanks with an attribute byte as the 1st character. You get an error when you have a null )BODY section. Are you saying that the ;4 is returned with the display of he USERINFO panel, even though the user will never actually see this panel? That doesn't sound logical to me. Yes, that's what I'm suggesting has happened. As for not being logical, you may be right. But note that even without your code, in DIALOG;4 the user never sees the first panel the dialog would display, but the 4 is used as though he had seen it. To me, this is very similar. In both cases, the 4 is used (I think) in response to the first display the dialog performs, and in both cases the user is not seeing that first-displayed panel. When I zap the code to branch around the call to the module that CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY's the USERINFO panel the DIALOG;4 works as I would expect...option 4 is selected from the first DISPLAYed panel. When the CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY code is invoked, to get the same results I have to enter DIALOG;;;4 (why 2 extra simicolons?). I can't explain why you need DIALOG;;;4 rather than DIALOG;;4 which I would have expected. Does this sound like a bug to you? Is a PMR suggested? Perhaps a QA type of PMR, if you have a support contract that allows you to ask questions. As I'm not part of the ISPF team here at IBM I'm not suggesting you've found an ISPF bug. I would start by trying to work around this (or researching it further) by defining a command field on your non-display panel, and seeing what you get when the user enters DIALOG;4. If you get the 4, then you can perhaps pass that back to your dialog for it to operate on, and you have an immediate workaround for your problem. Whether you should need to do that, or not, I really can't say. Someone from ISPF may know, but I don't. And perhaps this is more appropriate for the ISPF-L list than for IBM-MAIN. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Reduced 3270 Screen Geometry
Edward Jaffe wrote: I just reduced the screen geometry of my 3270 displays from 90x142 down to 68x142 due to ever-increasing eye strain. When I started in this business, I worked with a 24x80 display. At this rate, I'll probably retire with the same screen geometry I started with... :-D I'm right there with you! *very* frustrating I've been told that the newer flexible lenses they use as replacements in cateracts surgery solve this problem; but there's not approved for simply getting old. Now, it seems, I need cateracts :-) - Dave Rivers - -- riv...@dignus.comWork: (919) 676-0847 Get your mainframe programming tools at http://www.dignus.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: more on startio...
August, 1987 in Chicago. I did a newer version of it in March, 2009 in Austin. I may have done it once or twice at SHARE after AUG 87, but I don't remember. I based my presentation on the sample code written by Peter (unknown last name) referenced in Lindy's first posted url of http://lilliana.eu/downloads/startio.txt I had attended a two-week Amdahl class on MVS-XA internals in 1985 and asked the instructor if he could supply me with a copy of the document. After lunch that day he gave me a photocopied copy of a copy of a copy of a copy..., and I was able to read it well enough to create a sample program of my own, test it, change it to do many other things not covered in the document, etc. I no longer have the original document that I was given, which was a photocopied copy of a copy of copy of a copy..., of Peter's original white paper. But I still have a copy of what I presented at SHARE. Coincidentally enough, another session at the AUG 87 SHARE in Chicago had a discussion of STARTIO presented by someone from Cray in Minnesota. There should be a copy of his foils in the SHARE archives. My foils were in there the last time I looked. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of David Andrews Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 8:21 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: more on startio... I remember - maybe - that Bill Fairchild had a SHARE presentation or two on the care and feeding of STARTIO. That was years ago. Bill? -- David Andrews A. Duda Sons, Inc. david.andr...@duda.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintaining ISPF's command stack
Anyone want to play with this here you go... %USERTEST;4 results in a single line returned: USER SELECTED OPTION 4. %USERTEST NONDISP;4 results in the panel being displayed with 4 in the ZCMD field... Command === 4 Options - 1 - One - 2 - Two - 3 - Three - 4 - Four - Information obtained from NONDISPL panel: NAME = Walter DEPT = RACF Guru PHONE = 555-654-3210 Oddly, %USERTEST NONDISP;;4 (one extra semicolon) works exactly as one might expect. I still think that as PANEL0 is never displayed due to the NONDISPL request, the extra semicolon should not be required. --- USERTEST Clist: -- PROC 0 NONDISP IF (NONDISP ¬= STR()) THEN DO ISPEXEC CONTROL NONDISPL ENTER ISPEXEC DISPLAY PANEL(PANEL0) END ISPEXEC DISPLAY PANEL(PANEL1) SET OPTION = ZCMD WRITE USER SELECTED OPTION OPTION PANEL0: -- )ATTR DEFAULT(%+_) )BODY CMD() % )INIT NAME='Walter' DEPT='RACF Guru' PHONE='555-654-3210' )PROC )END PANEL1: -- )ATTR DEFAULT(%+_) )BODY EXPAND(//) CMD(ZCMD) %-/-/- ISPF STACK TESTING -/-/- +Command ===_ZCMD + + Options - 1 - One + - 2 - Two + - 3 - Three + - 4 - Four + + -/-/- + Information obtained from NONDISPL panel: + NAME = NAME + DEPT = DEPT + PHONE = PHONE )INIT )PROC VER (ZCMD,RANGE,1,4) )END Dan Dan D wrote: Walt, Yes, normally DIALOG;4 would bypass the 1st panel and pass 4 as it's ZCMD value. The difference between that and the NONDISPL panel is that if the ;4 was not specified the panel would be displayed. The NONDISPL panel will NEVER be seen by the user thus the next segment of the stacked command should not be removed (at least I don't believe it should...ISPF development may think differently). To make it easier to explain to the QA group, I'll get a model CLIST that provides an example of this problem before openning a PMR. Thanks for your help Walt. Dan Walt Farrell wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:40:39 -0400, DanD mvs-j...@sympatico.ca wrote: The )BODY section of the USERINFO panel does contain CMD(). As it is never displayed it only contains a single line of blanks with an attribute byte as the 1st character. You get an error when you have a null )BODY section. Are you saying that the ;4 is returned with the display of he USERINFO panel, even though the user will never actually see this panel? That doesn't sound logical to me. Yes, that's what I'm suggesting has happened. As for not being logical, you may be right. But note that even without your code, in DIALOG;4 the user never sees the first panel the dialog would display, but the 4 is used as though he had seen it. To me, this is very similar. In both cases, the 4 is used (I think) in response to the first display the dialog performs, and in both cases the user is not seeing that first-displayed panel. When I zap the code to branch around the call to the module that CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY's the USERINFO panel the DIALOG;4 works as I would expect...option 4 is selected from the first DISPLAYed panel. When the CONTROL,NONDISPL/DISPLAY code is invoked, to get the same results I have to enter DIALOG;;;4 (why 2 extra simicolons?). I can't explain why you need DIALOG;;;4 rather than DIALOG;;4 which I would have expected. Does this sound like a bug to you? Is a PMR suggested? Perhaps a QA type of PMR, if you have a support contract that allows you to ask questions. As I'm not part of the ISPF team here at IBM I'm not suggesting you've found an ISPF bug. I would start by trying to work around this (or researching it further) by defining a command field on your non-display panel, and seeing what you get when the user enters DIALOG;4. If you get the 4, then you can perhaps pass that back to your dialog for it to operate on, and you have an immediate workaround for your problem. Whether you should need to do that, or not, I really can't say. Someone from ISPF may know, but I don't. And perhaps this is more appropriate for the ISPF-L list than for IBM-MAIN. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO
I tried to do something like that around 1985. At the time I was using EXCP in an authorized program to do most of the same things that STARTIO will allow you to do but unauthorized EXCP will not, such as do I/O to an offline device, do I/O to an unallocated DASD track, etc. The way I was doing it with EXCP was to modify the DEB after an OPEN so that the DEB's UCB pointer contained the address of whatever device I really wanted to access, the DEB's extent list contained the CCHH of whatever track I wanted to access, etc. I wanted to be able to use different caching algorithms as well, but there was no way to do that with the fields in the 1985 version of the DEB. I raised the issue in a SHARE project, but it did not rise to the level of a requirement. Within a year or two IBM had added many new fields into the DEB Extension that answered most of my needs. But by then I was using STARTIO anyway, so I quit trying to do everything via EXCP. There are still quite a few in! teresting things that can be done only with STARTIO; e.g., direct the I/O to a specific channel path if the device has more than one path available, use MIDAW and several other indirect addressing formats, use Transport Mode, increase the scheduling and/or execution priority of your I/O request to way above everybody else's, and exploit almost every I/O feature documented in the PoO. The STARTIO interface is quite dangerous to the health of the system if it is not used correctly, which may also be part of why IBM has never officially externally documented the interface. They did release some working examples of it, however, back in the ancient days when source code for JES3, Media Manager, and other strategic components was available. They also documented how STARTIO works internally fairly well in the days of MVS/XA in their 17-volume logic library, but did not include a working sample of how to invoke it. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 9:11 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO In BANLkTinDfr1-b=b5o-of0x4cznzjmmz...@mail.gmail.com, on 06/19/2011 at 11:42 AM, shai hess shai.h...@gmail.com said: I do not understand why there is no example of startio. IBM doesn't want to support customer use of STARTIO. IBM doesn't want to document the available drivers. I suspect that it is a resources issue rather than an IP issue, Is there a Share requirement to open up the interface? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3490E volume limits
As Mike told, in real 3490E, block count in block ID (32-bits) is 22-bits long. High order 10-bits in 3490E block ID is used other purpose. In case of 3590 as well as 3592, the block count is 32-bits long. But in 3490E emulation mode of 3590/3592, you can use 32-bits block count. I think that STK T1000, Bus-Tech MDL, as well as TS7700 provide 32-bits block count to utilize large capacity media. I coud not find APAR OW49829 which supports 32-bits block count. Please look at 3590/3592 Introduction and Planning Guide and old Redbook IBM 3590 Multiplatform Implementation SG24-2594. In addition to this, please look at DCBE macro description in DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets. DECB macro has a parameter CAPACITYMODE=XCAP. Minoru Massaki 2011/6/21 Mike Wood mikeww...@hotmail.com: Radoslaw, I believe the 'limit' that most likely causes problems is the block ID. 3490/3590 devices use different formats. If you look at the doc for the NOTE and POINT macros for sequential data sets in DFSMS pubs you will get some idea of the differences. Basically, the 3490 blkid limited the number of blocks written to the tape. When small blocks are used you might not be able to use the entire tape media. The blkid for 3590 supports many more blocks. Depending on how the data is accessed, having more blocks on an emulated tape than can be addressed by blkid, may not be a problem. Or, perhaps the emulation uses newer blkid format, and as long as mvs does not manipulate them, they likely work ok. As for tape capacity, the system has always made assumptions about this based on the media and recording format detected and used. However, with virtual devices, there was recent support added ( library and dfsms) to allow the library to pass the volume capacity to the system. You can see a field in the IFGTEP control blocks where the capacity can be passed from OPEN to the tape management system - this works for all real '3590' and recent IBM virtual library levels. Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- 全先 実 - Minoru Massaki (M*M) E-mail: mmass...@gmail.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO
I totally apologize if I am beating the dead horse. But if I understood correctly, software that emulates a device like MFNet could be done with a supported means/interface, and I assume from what I read would be EXCP running authorized. So if I wanted to write something like MFNet (and i don't) would I have to use STARTIO? Or could I used a supported way. And if I don't need to use STARTIO, then when would I choose it? Regards! Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild [bi...@mainstar.com] Sent: 21 June 2011 19:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO I tried to do something like that around 1985. At the time I was using EXCP in an authorized program to do most of the same things that STARTIO will allow you to do but unauthorized EXCP will not, such as do I/O to an offline device, do I/O to an unallocated DASD track, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
How to justify SHARE
I thought there was a business case out on SHARE.ORG that could be used to justify going to share, but I cannot find it. Does anyone have a simple but effective paragraph on going to share they could share?? Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to justify SHARE
Lizette, They have a Building a Case to Attend SHARE page. It is on the registration page. http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConferences/SHAREinOrlando/BuildingaCasetoAttendSHARE/tabid/395/Default.aspx Ian http://www.cicsworld.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to justify SHARE
http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConferences/SHAREinOrlando/BuildingaCasetoAttendSHARE/tabid/395/Default.aspx Regards, John K From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/21/2011 01:29 PM Subject:How to justify SHARE I thought there was a business case out on SHARE.ORG that could be used to justify going to share, but I cannot find it. Does anyone have a simple but effective paragraph on going to share they could share?? Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO
If the device that you wish to emulate has a certain feature that (1) you wish to support, (2) IBM software and hardware supports such a feature, but (3) you cannot use that feature if you write your I/O requests using EXCP, then you will need to use STARTIO somewhere in your emulation. You will probably not need to use it for all your I/O requests, but you will for all those particular I/O requests that cannot be done using any other IBM software. You could always use a supported way if there is a supported way. If you don't need to use STARTIO, you should probably not use it. Only you will know if you need to use STARTIO or not in any given situation. Then there is always this solution: write a virtual machine that runs under VM/CP and which supports your hypothetical device. Then you can use the SSCH instruction if you wish, and do any bizarre thing that the PoO book says is possible but which neither EXCP, STARTIO, nor z/OS supports (e.g., address-limit checking[1]). Bill Fairchild Rocket Software [1] not supported by z/OS as far as I know. One way to find out what z/OS supports is to look at the DSECT for the IOSB (IECDIOSB), look at the ORB DSECT (IHAORB), and see if there are any flag bits in the ORB for which there is not a corresponding flag bit in the IOSB which would cause the ORB's corresponding flag bit to be turned on when the ORB is built based on the information in the IOSB. But make sure that the ORB DSECT you are using also has all the flag bit definitions in the latest version of the PoO before you start. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lindy Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 12:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO I totally apologize if I am beating the dead horse. But if I understood correctly, software that emulates a device like MFNet could be done with a supported means/interface, and I assume from what I read would be EXCP running authorized. So if I wanted to write something like MFNet (and i don't) would I have to use STARTIO? Or could I used a supported way. And if I don't need to use STARTIO, then when would I choose it? Regards! Lindy From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild [bi...@mainstar.com] Sent: 21 June 2011 19:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Some tests with MFNetDisk PRO I tried to do something like that around 1985. At the time I was using EXCP in an authorized program to do most of the same things that STARTIO will allow you to do but unauthorized EXCP will not, such as do I/O to an offline device, do I/O to an unallocated DASD track, etc. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to justify SHARE
I haven't read any of the referenced documents and/or urls, but I know from experience that a very good way to justify going to SHARE is to prepare a topic for presentation at SHARE that will somehow enhance your employer's reputation in the industry if it is presented, then explain to your manager why you are the best person in your company to deliver the presentation. Also you could write technical papers and send them for possible publication to any industry organizations and/or periodicals that you know of. Or think up some experiment you can perform on your employer's data center that shows a better way to do X, Y, or Z, do the experiment, write it up showing the results of the normal or most common method vs. the results of your better method, then try to get that paper published or presented at SHARE, CMG, or a similar organization. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John P Kalinich Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 1:42 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: How to justify SHARE http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConferences/SHAREinOrlando/BuildingaCasetoAttendSHARE/tabid/395/Default.aspx Regards, John K From: Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 06/21/2011 01:29 PM Subject:How to justify SHARE I thought there was a business case out on SHARE.ORG that could be used to justify going to share, but I cannot find it. Does anyone have a simple but effective paragraph on going to share they could share?? Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: How to justify SHARE
http://www.share.org/Events/UpcomingConferences/SHAREinOrlando/BuildingaCasetoAttendSHARE/tabid/395/Default.aspx Regards, John K Everyone Thanks so much. For some reason I seem to have a lot of difficulty finding things on SHARE that use to be easy. Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: more on startio...
I used STARTIO in order to make the CONSOLE input field no-display so that passwords could be entered even if someone was shoulder surfing (with some help from Warwick Teale, if he is still around). Advantages of STARTIO are that you do not need the device allocated (in fact, it can be allocated exclusively to a completely different job). -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: more on startio...
Warwick is alive and well in Hong Kong, working for Hewlitt-Packard, but not involved with mainframes. I attended his wedding there last November. I can send you his address, phone number, etc., if you want. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 2:24 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: more on startio... I used STARTIO in order to make the CONSOLE input field no-display so that passwords could be entered even if someone was shoulder surfing (with some help from Warwick Teale, if he is still around). Advantages of STARTIO are that you do not need the device allocated (in fact, it can be allocated exclusively to a completely different job). -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com http://www.dissensoftware.com Director, Dissen Software, Bar Grill - Israel Should you use the mailblocks package and expect a response from me, you should preauthorize the dissensoftware.com domain. I very rarely bother responding to challenge/response systems, especially those from irresponsible companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Production MIPS
The MIPS of a typical production mainframe would be greater than that needed to provide acceptable service levels. That can vary form the teens to the thousands. IBM, your business partner, or independent contractors have tools that use your SMF/RMF data to evaluate your unique workload and educate management on how to size your next box. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Weber Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Production MIPS All, What would be the MIPS of a typical production mainframe? We are trying to gauge our performance based on the 26 MIPS we currently have on our leased mainframe. Thanks a lot... John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: more on startio...
I went to that 2 week Amdahl class I think in 1982 or 83. I thought it was one of the best classes I ever attended. It was held in Columbia, Maryland. They had a hillside right next to the hotel where there were performances almost every day. There was also the Library, a bar made to look like a library. August was customer appreciation month. All drinks before 7:00 PM were .50 cents. They were also very strong. Oh well - totally off topic. -- Eric Bielefeld Systems Programmer Bill Fairchild bi...@mainstar.com wrote: I had attended a two-week Amdahl class on MVS-XA internals in 1985 and asked the instructor if he could supply me with a copy of the document. Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 3490E volume limits
Well, now I recall the limitation was related to block count. However I still see no reason why it's a problem for STK T1 but not for emulated drives. From operating system point of view it should be no difference between real and emulated drive! Mike wrote Depending on how the data is accessed - in fact I have no choice for access method - I'm not writing applications, I simply use them, I would say standard ones - like DFSMShsm, IDCAMS, RMM, IEBGENER, etc. Do they utilize blk id and what is length of the count field - I simply don't know, even don't know where to look for. One could think that STK simply circumvented a problem instead of solving it, or they unnecessarily gave up 3490 emulation type. I think they did not decided reclessly, in other word there were serious reasons to get rid of 3490 emulation. BTW: Gentlemen, THANK YOU FOR YOUR EXPLANATIONS and your patience. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland W dniu 2011-06-21 18:51, Minoru Massaki pisze: As Mike told, in real 3490E, block count in block ID (32-bits) is 22-bits long. High order 10-bits in 3490E block ID is used other purpose. In case of 3590 as well as 3592, the block count is 32-bits long. But in 3490E emulation mode of 3590/3592, you can use 32-bits block count. I think that STK T1000, Bus-Tech MDL, as well as TS7700 provide 32-bits block count to utilize large capacity media. I coud not find APAR OW49829 which supports 32-bits block count. Please look at 3590/3592 Introduction and Planning Guide and old Redbook IBM 3590 Multiplatform Implementation SG24-2594. In addition to this, please look at DCBE macro description in DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets. DECB macro has a parameter CAPACITYMODE=XCAP. Minoru Massaki 2011/6/21 Mike Woodmikeww...@hotmail.com: Radoslaw, I believe the 'limit' that most likely causes problems is the block ID. 3490/3590 devices use different formats. If you look at the doc for the NOTE and POINT macros for sequential data sets in DFSMS pubs you will get some idea of the differences. Basically, the 3490 blkid limited the number of blocks written to the tape. When small blocks are used you might not be able to use the entire tape media. The blkid for 3590 supports many more blocks. Depending on how the data is accessed, having more blocks on an emulated tape than can be addressed by blkid, may not be a problem. Or, perhaps the emulation uses newer blkid format, and as long as mvs does not manipulate them, they likely work ok. As for tape capacity, the system has always made assumptions about this based on the media and recording format detected and used. However, with virtual devices, there was recent support added ( library and dfsms) to allow the library to pass the volume capacity to the system. You can see a field in the IFGTEP control blocks where the capacity can be passed from OPEN to the tape management system - this works for all real '3590' and recent IBM virtual library levels. Mike Wood -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Tre tej wiadomoci moe zawiera informacje prawnie chronione Banku przeznaczone wycznie do uytku subowego adresata. Odbiorc moe by jedynie jej adresat z wyczeniem dostpu osb trzecich. Jeeli nie jeste adresatem niniejszej wiadomoci lub pracownikiem upowanionym do jej przekazania adresatowi, informujemy, e jej rozpowszechnianie, kopiowanie, rozprowadzanie lub inne dziaanie o podobnym charakterze jest prawnie zabronione i moe by karalne. Jeeli otrzymae t wiadomo omykowo, prosimy niezwocznie zawiadomi nadawc wysyajc odpowied oraz trwale usun t wiadomo wczajc w to wszelkie jej kopie wydrukowane lub zapisane na dysku. This e-mail may contain legally privileged information of the Bank and is intended solely for business use of the addressee. This e-mail may only be received by the addressee and may not be disclosed to any third parties. If you are not the intended addressee of this e-mail or the employee authorised to forward it to the addressee, be advised that any dissemination, copying, distribution or any other similar activity is legally prohibited and may be punishable. If you received this e-mail by mistake please advise the sender immediately by using the reply facility in your e-mail software and delete permanently this e-mail including any copies of it either printed or saved to hard drive. BRE Bank SA, 00-950 Warszawa, ul. Senatorska 18, tel. +48 (22) 829 00 00, fax +48 (22) 829 00 33, e-mail: i...@brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorcw KRS 025237, NIP: 526-021-50-88. Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2011 r.
Re: Production MIPS
yes, but MIPS have nothing to do with that! Ted MacNEIL eamacn...@yahoo.ca From: Hal Merritt hmerr...@jackhenry.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Tue, June 21, 2011 4:33:27 PM Subject: Re: Production MIPS The MIPS of a typical production mainframe would be greater than that needed to provide acceptable service levels. That can vary form the teens to the thousands. IBM, your business partner, or independent contractors have tools that use your SMF/RMF data to evaluate your unique workload and educate management on how to size your next box. HTH and good luck. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of John Weber Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 5:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Production MIPS All, What would be the MIPS of a typical production mainframe? We are trying to gauge our performance based on the 26 MIPS we currently have on our leased mainframe. Thanks a lot... John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any files transmitted with it are intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. The message, together with any attachment, may contain confidential and/or privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, printing, saving, copying, disclosure or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please immediately advise the sender by reply email and delete all copies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: more on startio...
On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:24:15 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote: I used STARTIO in order to make the CONSOLE input field no-display so that passwords could be entered even if someone was shoulder surfing (with some help from Warwick Teale, if he is still around). This seems to me to be more a matter for a security Requirement than for a customer circumvention. But has the Requirement already been submitted but rejected or deferred? (But I once submitted a PMR on a very similar matter. IBM fixed it for one of my test cases; left it unresolved for another.) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored read on windows ?
Dears listers, question as the subject , any idea ? appreciated your idea. Regards, Laurence -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored read on windows ?
What type of data? What windows application will read the data? -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tsai Laurence Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 4:15 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored read on windows ? Dears listers, question as the subject , any idea ? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: more on startio...
On Wed, Jun 22nd, 2011 at 6:02 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote: Warwick is alive and well in Hong Kong I recall Warwick presenting a paper along the lines Bill was describing to Share here in Aus - similar timeframe I suspect. Full (assemled) listing handed out and discussed in detail. Much fun ensued for the techos who stayed the distance. Wouldn't be at all surprised if a certain (current) HDS employee who recently un-subscribed from this list was also present. Seeds planted ... Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: how to backup data onto mainframe tape and restored read on windows ?
We have a tape robot (forget device type). We can share a 3592J drive between the z and distributed systems. It is very important to be sure the data is compatible between the systems. We use printable character data and do the EBCDIC to ASCII translation on z/OS. Windows remains other system unfriendly. I use Dovetailed Technologies dspipes to do the copy and transfer using z/UNIX. http://dovetail.com/products/dspipes.html Unlike UNIX iconv, fromdsn can read a z/OS PS dataset and convert to ASCII with Windows CRLF line endings. It would pipe to todsn which can also write to a DSN or DD, eg: //CONVERT EXEC PROC=COZPROC //STDOUT DD SYSOUT=* //STDERR DD SYSOUT=* //STDIN DD * . /etc/profile fromdsn -l crlf -s IBM-037 -t ASCII //DD:INPUT |\ todsn //'SOME.SEQ.DSNAME' /* //INPUT DD DSN=some.other.sequential.dataset,DISP=OLD // On Wed, 2011-06-22 at 07:15 +0800, Tsai Laurence wrote: Dears listers, question as the subject , any idea ? appreciated your idea. Regards, Laurence -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Japan (was Re: 3490E volume limits)
On 6/21/2011 10:51 AM, Minoru Massaki wrote: As Mike told, in real 3490E, block count in block ID (32-bits) is 22-bits long. High order 10-bits in 3490E block ID is used other purpose. In case of 3590 as well as 3592, the block count is 32-bits long. But in 3490E emulation mode of 3590/3592, you can use 32-bits block count. I think that STK T1000, Bus-Tech MDL, as well as TS7700 provide 32-bits block count to utilize large capacity media. I coud not find APAR OW49829 which supports 32-bits block count. Please look at 3590/3592 Introduction and Planning Guide and old Redbook IBM 3590 Multiplatform Implementation SG24-2594. In addition to this, please look at DCBE macro description in DFSMS Macro Instructions for Data Sets. DECB macro has a parameter CAPACITYMODE=XCAP. Minoru Massaki 2011/6/21 Mike Woodmikeww...@hotmail.com: Radoslaw, I believe the 'limit' that most likely causes problems is the block ID. 3490/3590 devices use different formats. If you look at the doc for the NOTE and POINT macros for sequential data sets in DFSMS pubs you will get some idea of the differences. Basically, the 3490 blkid limited the number of blocks written to the tape. When small blocks are used you might not be able to use the entire tape media. The blkid for 3590 supports many more blocks. Depending on how the data is accessed, having more blocks on an emulated tape than can be addressed by blkid, may not be a problem. Or, perhaps the emulation uses newer blkid format, and as long as mvs does not manipulate them, they likely work ok. As for tape capacity, the system has always made assumptions about this based on the media and recording format detected and used. However, with virtual devices, there was recent support added ( library and dfsms) to allow the library to pass the volume capacity to the system. You can see a field in the IFGTEP control blocks where the capacity can be passed from OPEN to the tape management system - this works for all real '3590' and recent IBM virtual library levels. Mike Wood Minoru-さん, I remember, we met at SHARE in Denver in 2009. So, you got a job in mainframes after all! Great. Who are you working for these days? My wife and I will be leading a trip to Japan this October (Tokyo, Takayama, Hiroshima, Kyoto). Maybe we can meet for a brief time. You can see details of the trip here: http://www.trainersfriend.com/japan -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com * To get a good Return on your Investment, first make an investment! + Training your people is an excellent investment * Try our new tool for calculating your Return On Investment for training dollars at http://www.trainersfriend.com/ROI/roi.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
