Re: SR - was: Re: Don't like.

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 00:35:00 -0500, Barbara Nitz  wrote:
>
>>o I had the site bookmarked with my user ID in the query_string so it
>>  was preset on the login page; all I needed to type was my password.
>
>Isn't that a preference set somewhere in the operating system? I never let the 
>OS 'help' me by remembering my userids. But you're probably not using 
>windoofs, either :-)
> 
The user ID I bookmark is my email address which appears in every
message I post to this list.  There's little to gain by protecting it.

I never included my password in the bookmark.

What does "SR" stand for?

>>o It's bandwidth-profligate: 100KB for a 10-line message payload?  Sheesh!
>Almost all of IBMs webpages are.
>
There's a joke about a dog, sometimes attributed to George Carlin.  The
punch line is "Because he can!"  This seems to be the rationale for much
web page engineering.

>As far as I am concerned, they have fixed one or two blatant errors, but they 
>close their collective ears and eyes to anything regarding usability 
>('intuitive usage'). Much better to 'educate' customers (as in - tell them 
>they're just too stupid to understand the grand scheme of their ideas - and do 
>it in such a way that the customer feels stupid and relents and uses it.)
> 
>With the exception of one or two points, *everything* I said back in March 
>still holds true.
> 
Cite?  Or must I scan the archives?

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most efficient method to determine "used cpu time" within a particular subtask

[Dr. Stephen Fedtke]

hi all,

several sources provide "used cpu time". calculating the difference between
two points of time allows to calculate the required cpu time for particular
parts of the processing.

question: which is the most efficient and reliable method to determine the
"cpu time used" in order to apply the above given delta calculation? is
there anything more efficient than call a service, such as

TIMEUSED CPU=MIC,STORADR=WORK_UCPU,   *
  LINKAGE=SYSTEM   

for example, reading out any control block fields.

best
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my users list.

[shai hess]

HI,

 I send message to the old and the new users list to indicate that
"YOU ARE IN MY LIST".

 I receive many requests. Most of the people are in the list.

 If somebody did not receive my note, please send me email and I will add you.

 One point to mention. I used the word "without *** nothing was
possible". Some people complain and that is OK with me.
 All I ask is that if somebody does not like my thanks to the one who
help me with this product and really without him one assembler line
could not be wrote, then this users list is not for you, because even
in my site the first few words is "without *** nothing was possible".

 Thanks,
 Shai

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SR - was: Re: Don't like.

[Barbara Nitz]

>Maybe it's getting better.  It now uses HTTP instead of insisting on HTTPS.
Really? After authentification (which *I* would insist on being https) it stays 
https for me. Which makes a lot of sense, as we don't want our company's 
software problems to become common knowledge.

>o I had the site bookmarked with my user ID in the query_string so it
>  was preset on the login page; all I needed to type was my password.
Isn't that a preference set somewhere in the operating system? I never let the 
OS 'help' me by remembering my userids. But you're probably not using windoofs, 
either :-)

>o I'd like the composition window to use a monospaced font for times
>  when I supply a code example, as earlier today.  Perhaps I can profile
>  this, but I don't know how.
Why should the SR people listen to us? According to them, we're a minority that 
only complains!

>o It's bandwidth-profligate: 100KB for a 10-line message payload?  Sheesh!
Almost all of IBMs webpages are. Try accessing it on a 45kB line. You might as 
well hit your head on a wall immediately! Takes in excess of 5 minutes (and so 
it is doubly useless when you have to needlessly click yourself through several 
pages before you reach the one you need), and believe me, a 100kB webpage does 
NOT take 5 minutes to load. (When it is written by someone who knows what 
they're doing.) I always have the impression that IBM is trying to spy on me 
and hitting blank walls since I safeguard even my company PC. 

As far as I am concerned, they have fixed one or two blatant errors, but they 
close their collective ears and eyes to anything regarding usability 
('intuitive usage'). Much better to 'educate' customers (as in - tell them 
they're just too stupid to understand the grand scheme of their ideas - and do 
it in such a way that the customer feels stupid and relents and uses it.)

With the exception of one or two points, *everything* I said back in March 
still holds true. And if the rest of you don't start telling the SR people that 
my points are valid, then we all will be stuck with an inferior product that 
makes our life infinitely harder when we have a problem. At this point, they 
consider me the lone dissenter. 

Oh well, IBM most probably doesn't *want* customers to open problems. After 
all, they don't have problems in their code, right? (All the usual, long-time 
IBM suspects from this list excluded, of course!)

Barbara

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where to find the assembler mapping macro for websphere smf record 120?

[Dr. Stephen Fedtke]

hi all,

on an IBM educational ppt presentation we googled, including sound, "he"
talked about mapping macros for websphere smf record 120.

does anybody know about these assembler mapping macros, and where to find them?

best
stephen


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Re: Don't like.

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:48:57 -0500, Barbara Nitz  wrote:

>>The "graphic things" are a quotation mark, but it seems hard to figure that 
>>out initially.
>
+1

>It was more intuitive than anything IBM throws at their customers (see SR) 
>:-). I know you're not responsible for SR, Walt!
>
Maybe it's getting better.  It now uses HTTP instead of insisting on HTTPS.
But still:

o I had the site bookmarked with my user ID in the query_string so it
  was preset on the login page; all I needed to type was my password.
  Now I must type both.

o I'd like the composition window to use a monospaced font for times
  when I supply a code example, as earlier today.  Perhaps I can profile
  this, but I don't know how.

o It's bandwidth-profligate: 100KB for a 10-line message payload?  Sheesh!
  (We're too accustomed to the demands of streaming video.)

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Re: SMPE how-to question

[Art Gutowski]

On Sat, 9 Jul 2011 21:03:09 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) 
 wrote:

>In
>,
>on 07/08/2011
>   at 09:10 AM, Skip Robinson  said:
>
>>But we're talking about customer generated usermods here:
>
>Not quite; we're talking about a vendor[1] whose documented
>customization procedure requires bypassing SMP. The basic problem is
>not the UCLIN, it's the need to do a zap for a PROGRAM element.
>
>[1] Violating its own rules in the process

Thank you Shmuel, that was my point.  BTW, TICTOC is another shining example.  

Regards,
Art Gutowski
Compuware Corporation

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Re: JDBC type 2 with java6

[Rob Schramm]

Why not continue using the java you have been using that worked?

Rob Schramm
Senior Systems Consultant
Imperium Group



On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:39 AM, Matan Cohen  wrote:
> thanks ,
> I ordered the required service although I don't believe it will fix it .
>
> On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Chase, John  wrote:
>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matan Cohen
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > please excuse me for any lack of knowledge in this area,
>> >
>> > I have a compenet running under USS which used the JDBC jars from DB2
>> 8.10V
>> > .
>> > I needed to upgrade it to run under  J6.0
>> >
>> > */Z110/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin: >./java -version
>> *
>> > *java version "1.6.0"
>> >      *
>> > *Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160-20071123_01)
>> >     *
>> > *IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31
>> > jvmmz3160-20071121_1501*
>> > *5 (JIT enabled)
>> >     *
>> > *J9VM - 20071121_015015_bHdSMr
>> >     *
>> > *JIT  - r9_20071121_1330
>> >     *
>> > *GC   - 20071031_AA)
>> >     *
>> > *JCL  - 20071118_01  *
>> >
>> > when starting the compenet with Java 6 i get this error :
>> > com.ibm.db2.jcc.b.SqlException: ÝDB2/T2zOS¨ÝJDBC/SQLJ¨ Incompatable JVM.
>> The
>> > Driver REQUIRES Java 2 support and is not compatible with the JVM:1.6.0
>>
>> It appears you are rather far behind on Java maintenance.  This is
>> "current":
>>
>> java version "1.6.0"
>> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160sr9fp1-20110303_01(SR9 FP1))
>> IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, JRE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31
>> jvmmz3160sr9-20110203_74623 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
>> J9VM - 20110203_074623
>> JIT  - r9_20101028_17488ifx3
>> GC   - 20101027_AA)
>> JCL  - 20110203_01
>>
>>    -jc-
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Re: Z/OS Newbie question

[Walt Farrell]

On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 18:52:15 +0300, Binyamin Dissen  
wrote:

>On Mon, 4 Jul 2011 11:40:05 -0400 Gerhard Postpischil 
>wrote:
>
>:>On 7/4/2011 7:42 AM, Hilary Hurwitz wrote:
>:>> I really miss one function - provided by FAQS/ASO.
>
>:>> At the end of every batch job, it printed out a list of
>:>> modules used and which libraries they were taken from.
>
>:>The short answer to this is that it's not possible. If you look
>:>through the archives, the topic of identifying a module's source
>:>has come up repeatedly, without satisfactory solution. The basic
>:>problem is that zOS has more options for loading modules, even
>:>of modules that don't exist before or after execution; a single
>:>load request may be satisfied from a concatenation of (user)
>:>libraries, or from system libraries, or from storage.
>
>It is possible via a SAF exit. Every module LOAD goes thru there and the exit
>could save the information to be printed during ACTRT.

Sorry, Binyamin, but it's not true that every module LOAD goes through SAF:

(1) Loading of LPA-resident modules will not in general go through SAF, though 
in some cases it will if for the first module LOADed as part of a new task. 

(2) Loading of modules that reside in a UNIX file system don't go through SAF 
in the same way, and are not really identifiable to the SAF exits involved with 
UNIX, either.

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Re: Z/OS Newbie question

[Binyamin Dissen]

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 14:46:48 -0400 "Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)"
 wrote:

:>In <49o317tmgaeo59mfmbt0qgppgivustu...@4ax.com>, on 07/04/2011
:>   at 06:52 PM, Binyamin Dissen  said:

:>>It is possible via a SAF exit.

:>No.

Yes it is. And I have done it.

:>>Every module LOAD goes thru there

:>Only if by LOAD you mean the LOAD macro or at least the standard Fetch
:>routine. It is not true for programs that bypass Fetch.

One doubts that VSE reports on programs directly read into memory.

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Re: Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In , on 07/09/2011
   at 10:04 PM, "Robert A. Rosenberg"  said:

>If the macro takes it upon itself to issue a USING on one of the 4 
>linkage registers [instead of just using the usual 
>Value-DSECT(Register) displacement addressing] it should clean up 
>after itself by using PUSH/POP

I would consider that harmful. If you want consistency, then any macro
altering a register should issue a DROP.

>or at least document that it will destroy not only the pre-call 
>Register Contents  (as it is allowed to do due to the designation 
>of R14-R1 as Linkage  Registers) but any pre-call USINGs that 
>were in effect.

There we almost agree; I would be satisfied with a generic statement
that any macro altering a register might also issue a DROP.
 
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Re: Z/OS Newbie question

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <49o317tmgaeo59mfmbt0qgppgivustu...@4ax.com>, on 07/04/2011
   at 06:52 PM, Binyamin Dissen  said:

>It is possible via a SAF exit.

No.

>Every module LOAD goes thru there

Only if by LOAD you mean the LOAD macro or at least the standard Fetch
routine. It is not true for programs that bypass Fetch.
 
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Re: This forum is to help people with MVS or z/OS questions and problems

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <4e1a90cc.1040...@cbttape.org>, on 07/11/2011
   at 01:57 AM, Sam Golob  said:

> We must not forget what this wonderful forum is for.  It is for 
>bringing up problems in the MVS (z/OS) area,

And the other IBM mainframe platforms as well.

>P.S.  Shai, you don't have to fight at all.  We'll do all the 
>negotiating for you.  Just keep on producing your wonderful product
>and  keep on talking about it.  I don't know of anything else that
>anyone has  written (for a reasonable price at least)--anything that
>covers the same  ground as your wonderful product does.  You just
>keep on working, keep  on posting, and nobody had better start up
>with you, OR  ELSE*@#$%&^&$%#@***

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Re: Status of my posts

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <0B22DBD9E9454E45BEDB27BC0798FD92@graham>, on 07/10/2011
   at 05:13 PM, Graham Hobbs  said:

>Thereafter zero plans to use this list again - given the posting's
>brevity I didn't even plan to ask Darren!

I would consider it abusive to post to a mailing list with the intent
of ignoring replies. I am also not happy about bypassing Darren,
although I suspect that he will approve your post if asked.

>There are less invasive 
>ways so I do not agree with your postings here.

I do not consider Shai's posts invasive, nor do I consider relegating
discussions to a separate list to be an improvement.
 
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Re: Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro

[Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)]

In <3636987791660692.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu>, on
07/11/2011
   at 09:40 AM, Paul Gilmartin  said:

>Again, it depends on what programmers are accustomed to.  If,
>magically overnight, the relevant DROP were added to every macro in
>SYS1.MACLIB that alters a register, would it be an immediate boon or
>a bane to the assembler programmer community?

That's reminiscent of a lot of programs that "worked"[1] in OS/360 bot
got ABEND S0C4 in OS/VS1. I would be willing to bet that adding the
DROP statements would have a similar effect.

[1] They sometimes got incorrect output, but didn't ABEND
 
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RES: Console COMMAND

[ITURIEL DO NASCIMENTO NETO]

Sérgio,

You have to use AXRCMD API to issue z/OS commands, and AXRWTO to WTO.
Here are some samples used in our sysprog Lpar:

/**/
/*   Verifica os Subsistemas Ativos   */
/**/
Sysid  = MVSVAR('SYSNAME')
WtoResult=AXRWTO('*** Retirando Subsistemas *** - 'Sysid)
CMDResult=AXRCMD('D OPDATA','OUTPUTVAR.',5);
If CMDResult = 0 Then
   DO
   DO C = 2 TO  OUTPUTVAR.0
  Subsys =  WORD(Outputvar.c,1)
  Asid   =  WORD(Outputvar.c,2)
  System =  WORD(Outputvar.c,3)
  If System = Sysid  Then
 DO
Select
   When Substr(Asid,1,2) = 'DB' Then  CMDResult=AXRCMD(Subsys' 
STOP DB2 MODE(FORCE)')
   When Substr(Asid,1,4) = 'RACF'   Then  
CMDResult=AXRCMD(Subsys'STOP')
   When Substr(Asid,1,2) = 'MQ' Then  CMDResult=AXRCMD('S 
MQRDR,M=STOPMQ3')
   Otherwise  Nop
End
 End
   END;
   End


Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos

Ituriel do Nascimento Neto
BANCO BRADESCO S.A.
4254 / DPCD Engenharia de Software
Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes
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-Mensagem original-
De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de 
Sérgio Lima Costa
Enviada em: segunda-feira, 11 de julho de 2011 14:04
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Assunto: RES: Console COMMAND

Hello Alan, and all others.

Thanks very much for your help.

Run fine, very good.

But, for give VTAM commands under ZOS, need insert ADDRESS VTAM ?

Look below please:

Under Z/VM :

 3 *-* "set secuser vtam *"
   >>>   "set secuser vtam *"
 4 *-* "cp sleep 2 sec"
   >>>   "cp sleep 2 sec"
 5 *-* 'CP SEND VTAM VTAM d net,pending'
   >>>   "CP SEND VTAM VTAM d net,pending"
 6 *-* "cp sleep 2 sec"
   >>>   "cp sleep 2 sec"
VTAM: Ready;
VTAM: IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED
VTAM: IST350I DISPLAY TYPE = PENDING
VTAM: IST159I THE FOLLOWING NODES ARE IN A PENDING STATE
VTAM: IST080I CICSDDS1 PNFY1  CDRKCA   PACDR
VTAM: IST314I END
 7 *-* "set secuser vtam off"
   >>>   "set secuser vtam off"





/**/
trace r
"set secuser vtam *"
"cp sleep 2 sec"
'CP SEND VTAM VTAM d net,pending'
"cp sleep 2 sec"
"set secuser vtam off"




And here under ZOS 1.12

 BROWSESYS1.SAXREXEC(TESTE)
 Command ===>

/* rexx  */
trace r
address tso
'd net,pending'



  3 *-* address tso
  4 *-* 'd net,pending'
>>>   "d net,pending"
 ***



IKJ56500I COMMAND D NOT FOUND
   +++ RC(-3) +++
***

Do you know, what We need do for VTAM commands run ok?

Thanks again, and Best Regards.

Sergio

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De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de 
Starr, Alan
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2011 15:03
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Assunto: Re: Console COMMAND

Sergio,

If I understand your requirements correctly, I believe that System REXX may 
fulfill them.

System REXX members  may be invoked (by the AXR address space) from any console 
by specifying _rexxname  (or F AXR,rexxname)
> _ is the command designator defined in PARMLIB member AXRnn
> rexxname is a member name in SYS1.SAXREXEC (or another dataset specified via 
> PARMLIB member AXRnn)

You can use the AXRCMD function (described in chapter 31 of the Authorized 
Assembler Programming Guide) to submit MVS operator commands.

Cheers,
Alan

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Sérgio Lima Costa
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:54 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Console COMMAND

Hello List,

We are migrating our environment from Z/VM , and Z/VSE to Z/OS.
We have here a lot of EXEC's that is used from VM OPERATOR to display, 
activate, deactivate lines from VTAM.
We need now, transfer this EXEC's for run under TSO .
What We need, is execute this comands by operators unde Master console of ZOS.
Is possible execute this there?
Need write a PROC with a name ? , then the operator give the S X , where 
X is the name o four PROC / REXX .

Sergio Lima Costa





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RES: Console COMMAND

[Sérgio Lima Costa]

Hello Alan, and all others.

Thanks very much for your help.

Run fine, very good.

But, for give VTAM commands under ZOS, need insert ADDRESS VTAM ?

Look below please:

Under Z/VM :

 3 *-* "set secuser vtam *"
   >>>   "set secuser vtam *"
 4 *-* "cp sleep 2 sec"
   >>>   "cp sleep 2 sec"
 5 *-* 'CP SEND VTAM VTAM d net,pending'
   >>>   "CP SEND VTAM VTAM d net,pending"
 6 *-* "cp sleep 2 sec"
   >>>   "cp sleep 2 sec"
VTAM: Ready;
VTAM: IST097I DISPLAY ACCEPTED
VTAM: IST350I DISPLAY TYPE = PENDING
VTAM: IST159I THE FOLLOWING NODES ARE IN A PENDING STATE
VTAM: IST080I CICSDDS1 PNFY1  CDRKCA   PACDR
VTAM: IST314I END
 7 *-* "set secuser vtam off"
   >>>   "set secuser vtam off"





/**/
trace r
"set secuser vtam *"
"cp sleep 2 sec"
'CP SEND VTAM VTAM d net,pending'
"cp sleep 2 sec"
"set secuser vtam off"




And here under ZOS 1.12

 BROWSESYS1.SAXREXEC(TESTE)
 Command ===>

/* rexx  */
trace r
address tso
'd net,pending'



  3 *-* address tso
  4 *-* 'd net,pending'
>>>   "d net,pending"
 ***



IKJ56500I COMMAND D NOT FOUND
   +++ RC(-3) +++
***

Do you know, what We need do for VTAM commands run ok?

Thanks again, and Best Regards.

Sergio

-Mensagem original-
De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de 
Starr, Alan
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 8 de julho de 2011 15:03
Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Assunto: Re: Console COMMAND

Sergio,

If I understand your requirements correctly, I believe that System REXX may 
fulfill them.

System REXX members  may be invoked (by the AXR address space) from any console 
by specifying _rexxname  (or F AXR,rexxname)
> _ is the command designator defined in PARMLIB member AXRnn
> rexxname is a member name in SYS1.SAXREXEC (or another dataset specified via 
> PARMLIB member AXRnn)

You can use the AXRCMD function (described in chapter 31 of the Authorized 
Assembler Programming Guide) to submit MVS operator commands.

Cheers,
Alan

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Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 10:54 AM
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Subject: Console COMMAND

Hello List,

We are migrating our environment from Z/VM , and Z/VSE to Z/OS.
We have here a lot of EXEC's that is used from VM OPERATOR to display, 
activate, deactivate lines from VTAM.
We need now, transfer this EXEC's for run under TSO .
What We need, is execute this comands by operators unde Master console of ZOS.
Is possible execute this there?
Need write a PROC with a name ? , then the operator give the S X , where 
X is the name o four PROC / REXX .

Sergio Lima Costa





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Re: Lines, Bars and ... mini-bars???

[David Cole]

At 7/10/2011 03:47 PM, Justin R. Bendich wrote:
I agree with Scott and Walter that it must be above the bar if it's 
not addressable in AMODE 31. Understand that that's below GAGALAND, 
but, yeah, i guess you need another name.


What?? That didn't catch on either

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Re: Console COMMAND

[Chris Mason]

Sergio

> We have here a lot of EXEC's that is used from VM OPERATOR to display, 
> activate, deactivate lines from VTAM.

Ed Gould has opened up the possibility that you might consider changing your 
operational environment and changing the REXX Clists you use in order to 
achieve what you really want to do.

The appropriate environment for managing automation - and hence obviously 
entering REXX Clists with any sort of command not only VTAM commands - from the 
IBM stable of products is NetView.

Indeed NetView in its original manifestation as NOSP in the late 1970s was 
specifically designed for the entry of VTAM commands in order to assist with 
complex and tedious sequences required to manage VTAM and NCP.

NOSP developed into NCCF and NCCF, being also an application-enabling 
environment, developed into NetView together with a few of the applications so 
enabled.[1]

It is still the NCCF component of NetView, rebranded as the "command facility", 
which provides for the entry of commands.

But complementary to the entry of commands is the ability to analyse the 
messages returned by the commands and act on them by entering further commands 
and so on. This is a function which eventually this "command facility" 
supported and then the choice - generally not a difficult choice - became 
available to use REXX as a Clist language with all the same capabilities as the 
specifically NCCF/NetView Clist language which was used before, a Clist 
language based very approximately on VM EXEC.

It's this ability to analyse the results of having entered a command I wanted 
to bring to your attention.

What I mentioned above was the possibility to handle messages *solicited* by 
command entry. In addition it is possible to handle messages which have not 
been *solicited* by command entry, *unsolicited* messages, by the agency of a 
"message automation table".

I retained a presentation from back in 1991 of how I used to use these 
functions in order to achieve totally "silent" IPLs of my test/education 
systems, so "silent" that my colleagues insisted I set up a system of "what's 
going on" messages to assure them that something was happening - but that's 
another story.

> What We need, is execute this commands by operators under Master console of 
> Z/OS.

I just checked this presentation in order to assure myself about the 
customisation needed in order to ensure that the MVS system consoles were 
available for entry of Clists which were to be executed in a NetView 
environment.

> We don't mentioned before, that what want, is execute a REXX from MASTER 
> Operator Console for ZOS.

Actually, you did!

> We need now, transfer this EXEC's for run under TSO.

So deciding that you needed to use TSO was already an assumption too far!

> We are migrating our environment from Z/VM, and Z/VSE to Z/OS.

Ideally, you would already be using NetView with z/VM. To think, just about my 
first presentation activity in 1985 when I started teaching full-time was to 
teach NCCF in a VM environment!

-

[1] And supposedly too difficult a job for the poor lambs of system programmers 
to integrate - hence NetView with its "one size fits all" combination of 
products! OK, I used to teach how to do it so they could have been taking away 
my livelihood!

-

Chris Mason

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:54:21 -0300, Sérgio Lima Costa 
 wrote:

>Hello List,
>
>We are migrating our environment from Z/VM , and Z/VSE to Z/OS.
>We have here a lot of EXEC's that is used from VM OPERATOR to display, 
>activate, deactivate lines from VTAM.
>We need now, transfer this EXEC's for run under TSO .
>What We need, is execute this comands by operators unde Master console of ZOS.
>Is possible execute this there?
>Need write a PROC with a name ? , then the operator give the S X , where 
>X is the name o four PROC / REXX .
>
>Sergio Lima Costa

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* OK'd by Darren


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Re: Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro

[Paul Gilmartin]

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 08:53:31 -0500, Tom Marchant wrote:

>I looked.  I find 30 macros in SYS1.MACLIB that issue USING.  5 of them
>use PUSH/POP.  A few of them leave the USING in effect when they end.
>
>The problem that occurs because of the lack of PUSH/POP is an assembly
>error.  IMO this is far better than the result if the USING remains in effect
>but the register contents have changed.
> 
Again, it depends on what programmers are accustomed to.  If,
magically overnight, the relevant DROP were added to every macro
in SYS1.MACLIB that alters a register, would it be an immediate
boon or a bane to the assembler programmer community?
I remain unconvinced.

>I remain unconvinced that PUSH/POP is appropriate when the register
>contents are not restored.  I might go so far as to contend that whenever
>a macro alters  registers 1, 14 or 15 it should issue a DROP for those
>registers if there is an active USING.  Unfortunately, AFAIK, there is no
>way to do that.
>
If it were desirable, how about:

 USING 0,1,14,15  (Fewer, ad lib.)
 DROP  1,14,15

 ... ?  Of course, if the caller has a bracketing PUSH/POP to encapsulate
a USING for another register, that POP willy-nilly restores the USING
for R1.

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Re: JDBC type 2 with java6

[Matan Cohen]

thanks ,
I ordered the required service although I don't believe it will fix it .

On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Chase, John  wrote:

> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> >
> > Hi,
> > please excuse me for any lack of knowledge in this area,
> >
> > I have a compenet running under USS which used the JDBC jars from DB2
> 8.10V
> > .
> > I needed to upgrade it to run under  J6.0
> >
> > */Z110/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin: >./java -version
> *
> > *java version "1.6.0"
> >  *
> > *Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160-20071123_01)
> > *
> > *IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31
> > jvmmz3160-20071121_1501*
> > *5 (JIT enabled)
> > *
> > *J9VM - 20071121_015015_bHdSMr
> > *
> > *JIT  - r9_20071121_1330
> > *
> > *GC   - 20071031_AA)
> > *
> > *JCL  - 20071118_01  *
> >
> > when starting the compenet with Java 6 i get this error :
> > com.ibm.db2.jcc.b.SqlException: ÝDB2/T2zOS¨ÝJDBC/SQLJ¨ Incompatable JVM.
> The
> > Driver REQUIRES Java 2 support and is not compatible with the JVM:1.6.0
>
> It appears you are rather far behind on Java maintenance.  This is
> "current":
>
> java version "1.6.0"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160sr9fp1-20110303_01(SR9 FP1))
> IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, JRE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31
> jvmmz3160sr9-20110203_74623 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
> J9VM - 20110203_074623
> JIT  - r9_20101028_17488ifx3
> GC   - 20101027_AA)
> JCL  - 20110203_01
>
>-jc-
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VM Workshop - Around the Corner

[Len Diegel]

Two weeks left before the VM Workshop at OSU.  The grid is  now pretty much 
complete.  You can view it at _www.vmworkshop.org_ 
(http://www.vmworkshop.org)  ..
 
General Sessions include:
 
John Franciscovich  (IBM) will open the workshop with an update on the  VM 
Platform.
 
Bill Carico will be doing the keynote on Day 1.  Bill has been a  mainframe 
advocate for more than 20 years and often presents as an IBM  keynote 
speaker at mainframe events.
 
Buzz Woeckener (Nationwide)  is our kickoff speaker for Day  2.   Buzz has 
managed the Nationwide Linux and System z team to  what is one of the 
largest Linux on System z operations in the nation.   Buzz has an excellent 
understanding of the business case for Linux on  System z and  will describe 
how 
it changed the direction of IT  at Nationwide.
 
Tom Befi (ISO).  Tom manages Technology and Operations at  ISO.  Tom will 
discuss ISO's experience and challenges with  Linux on System z and ISO's 
future plans for Linux on System z.   This should be an excellent opportunity 
for many of us to hear a Linux on  System z success story; what worked at ISO 
and what didn't.
 
You can see the rest of the grid on the workshop web site.  There will  be 
a reception (dinner, et al) on Thursday evening and box  lunches will be 
provided on Thursday and Friday.
 
See you there.
 
Len

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Re: Managing WLM manged initiators

[Mark Zelden]

On Mon, 11 Jul 2011 12:44:09 +0300, גדי בן 
אבי  wrote:

>Hi,
>
>We’ve started using WLM managed initiators.
>
>Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, 
>and even per system.
>The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command.
>Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per 
>system?
>

I don't understand what you are looking for.  

$DJOBCLASS(*),LONG 
$DSRVCLASS(*),LONG 
$TJOBCLASS(n),XEQCOUT=n

And all can be displayed and change with the SDSF JC command as you wrote.   
XEQMEMBER
takes a JES2 command to change (unless that was added in z/OS 1.12)

$TJOBCLASS(n),XEQMEMBER(abc)=(MAXIMUM=n) 

Isn't SDSF a utility?   

Mark
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Re: Bringing up OAM for 1st Time Require IPL?

[Mark Zelden]

On Sun, 10 Jul 2011 23:46:07 -0500, Greg Dini  wrote:

>Is an IPL required to bring OAM up for the first time?
>

No, but you do need to at least dynamically define the subsystem (SETSSI ADD) 
if you did not already define it for the current IPL.  You should also have your
library defined / activated in SMS prior to startup or you get some CBR* 
error message IIRC.   Another consideration might also be the HLQ
for your VOLCAT(s).  The default is SYS1 but can be changed in the LOADxx
member.  That would take an IPL if you don't want SYS1 to be the HLQ.

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Re: Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro

[Tom Marchant]

On Sat, 9 Jul 2011 11:50:19 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote:

>While I'll readily admit there might others, this is the first and only
>one I've heard of that does this.

I looked.  I find 30 macros in SYS1.MACLIB that issue USING.  5 of them 
use PUSH/POP.  A few of them leave the USING in effect when they end.

The problem that occurs because of the lack of PUSH/POP is an assembly 
error.  IMO this is far better than the result if the USING remains in effect 
but the register contents have changed.

I remain unconvinced that PUSH/POP is appropriate when the register 
contents are not restored.  I might go so far as to contend that whenever 
a macro alters  registers 1, 14 or 15 it should issue a DROP for those 
registers if there is an active USING.  Unfortunately, AFAIK, there is no 
way to do that.

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Re: This forum is to help people with MVS or z/OS questions and problems

[Greg Dorner]

Bravo, Sam. 

Great post and thank you for contributing and maintaining the CBTTAPE all these 
years.

Greg Dorner

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Re: ENQ/DEQ for CICS Transaction ID - now for Shared Resource

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Staller, Allan
> 
> IIRC, this would be a bad thing for CICS.
> 
> CICS does not like OS waits which would be caused by ENQ/DEQ (CICS
waits
> are another thing).
> 
> I am not a CICS person, but I would think that there are EXEC CICS
> equivalents to ENQ/DEQ that would be better for this purpose.

Indeed there are, and it was in that context (EXEC CICS ENQ/DEQ) that I
posted my code snippets.

   -jc-

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Re: Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro

[Wayne Driscoll]

TRT is just one of a handful of instructions that modify all (or in the 
case of TRT) some of R2.

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From:
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Date:
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Subject:
Re: Annoyance with the IEZJSAB macro
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Doesn't the TRanslate and Test instruction set R2 to an address?

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Rick Fochtman  wrote:
> Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>
>>> When I learned Assembler, I was taught that registers 1,1,14 and 15 
could
>>> NEVER be expected to remain unchanged accross a macro invokation.
>>
>> Where is the second R1 maintained?
>> (8-{]}
>>
>
> Pardon me; I meant R0. Finger check?  :-)
>
> Rick
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Re: smf14 and ds cache read

[Staller, Allan]

For program load I think you want SMF 42 Subtype 6(?). Possibly with the
use of an LLA exit. 
AFAIK, there is no "native" method to determine this information.
Several of the 3rd-party products that existed before LLA provide
statistical and loadlib information for a specific module "out of the
box.

If you really want the actual block id, the only method I am aware of is
CCW trace. Check IBM link for details.

If you are talking about general IO tuning, the RMF spreadsheet reporter
is very good. The is a module you can download from ZOS in the MVS
SAMPLIB or try here (watch the wrap):

http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/features/rmf/tools/rmftools.html


HTH,



  is it possible to determine with SMF-Records (14,41,42,..)  if a
dataset-block was read from disk, lla (direcotory read), vlf (modules),
or PDS/E-caching. We want  to optimize our I/O processing. 


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Re: DS8XXX Syslog Mirroring Question

[Ward, Mike S]

I think we will. Thank you all for commenting.

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W dniu 2011-07-08 23:22, Ward, Mike S pisze:
> We are mirroring our DISK and tape to a remote location for DR purposes.
> About 3 weeks ago we did an exercise and brought the system up at the
> remote location. It went great, except for one thing. Since we don't
> mirror our page and spool we do a cold start on JES and we don't have a
> copy of syslog. We are a z/os V1.11 shop. Has anyone done this type of
> DR before? If yes what are doing about the syslog? We stand to lose a
> days worth of syslog information. Any comments, etc... welcome. Thanks
> in advance.

My comment: why don't you mirror the spool?

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Re: New users list with some area experties.

[Darth Keller]

>>  Please ignore the ratbag and keep posting here. 

OK - can we stop with the name calling & personal attacks& get back to 
business? 
It's been awhile since I read the original post that started this whole 
chain, 
but IIRC, that person gave us an opinion -which you may or may not agree 
with. 
I don't remember it being a personal attack which I consider the above to 
be.

And even if the original note did contain a personal attack that I don't 
remember, 
isn't it about time we got back to work?

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Re: ENQ/DEQ for CICS Transaction ID - now for Shared Resource

[Staller, Allan]

IIRC, this would be a bad thing for CICS.

CICS does not like OS waits which would be caused by ENQ/DEQ (CICS waits
are another thing).

I am not a CICS person, but I would think that there are EXEC CICS
equivalents to ENQ/DEQ that would be 
better for this purpose.


Now we are trying the approach of a shared resource ENQ/DEQ.  We will
test two transactions 
calling a transaction that ENQ's a resource.  This SHOULD cause the one
transaction to wait 
until the other is DEQ'd.

I'm not too CICS savvy, but how do you define a small field that is
shared between transactions 
(does anyone have an example), and do you refer to that field in the ENQ
by name and length 
(again, an example would be most helpful)?


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Re: Managing WLM manged initiators

[Lizette Koehler]

> I am looking for something I can show the operators.
> CA-SYSVIEW doesn't have it.
> 
> Gadi
> >
> > Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators
> > per
> class, and even per system.
> > The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC
> command.
> > Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values
> > per
> system?
> >>
> 
> > Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command.
> >
>


Gadi,

In the SYSVIEW USER's guide there is a section on how to build your own
display function.  See if that will help.

Lizette

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Re: Managing WLM manged initiators

[גדי בן אבי]

I am looking for something I can show the operators.
CA-SYSVIEW doesn't have it.

Gadi

-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Lizette Koehler
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2011 3:09 PM
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>
> Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators
> per
class, and even per system.
> The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC
command.
> Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values
> per
system?
>>

> Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command.
>

Gadi -

In JES2 it is always a command whether there is an panel interface with it or 
not.

So, the question I have is - what specifically are your needs?  Operations, end 
user, audit process and control? Automation?
For example, with OPS/MVS you could devise a process.  Or if you use Tivoli, 
then it may already be built-in.

It would help to know your requirements for such an interface.

Currently SDSF has a panel.  Perhaps that is not what your needs require?

Lizette

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החברה או שמה המודפס ובצירוף חותמת החברה. בהעדר מסמך כאמור (לרבות מסמך סרוק) 
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Re: Managing WLM manged initiators

[Lizette Koehler]

>
> Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per
class, and even per system.
> The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC
command.
> Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per
system?
>> 

> Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command.
>

Gadi -

In JES2 it is always a command whether there is an panel interface with it
or not.

So, the question I have is - what specifically are your needs?  Operations,
end user, audit process and control? Automation?  
For example, with OPS/MVS you could devise a process.  Or if you use Tivoli,
then it may already be built-in.

It would help to know your requirements for such an interface.

Currently SDSF has a panel.  Perhaps that is not what your needs require?

Lizette 

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Re: Managing WLM manged initiators

[גדי בן אבי]

Thanks, but I'm looking for something that doesn't require command.

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""??? ?? ???""  wrote in message 
news:...
> Hi,
>
> We've started using WLM managed initiators.
>
> Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators
per class, and even per system.
> The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC
command.
> Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values
per system?
>
> Thanks
>
> Gadi
>

See the $DSRVCLASS command to display the current limits set by WLM and used by 
JES2.

Kees.

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Re: JDBC type 2 with java6

[Chase, John]

> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Matan Cohen
> 
> Hi,
> please excuse me for any lack of knowledge in this area,
> 
> I have a compenet running under USS which used the JDBC jars from DB2 8.10V
> .
> I needed to upgrade it to run under  J6.0
> 
> */Z110/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin: >./java -version   *
> *java version "1.6.0"
>  *
> *Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160-20071123_01)
> *
> *IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31
> jvmmz3160-20071121_1501*
> *5 (JIT enabled)
> *
> *J9VM - 20071121_015015_bHdSMr
> *
> *JIT  - r9_20071121_1330
> *
> *GC   - 20071031_AA)
> *
> *JCL  - 20071118_01  *
> 
> when starting the compenet with Java 6 i get this error :
> com.ibm.db2.jcc.b.SqlException: ÝDB2/T2zOS¨ÝJDBC/SQLJ¨ Incompatable JVM. The
> Driver REQUIRES Java 2 support and is not compatible with the JVM:1.6.0

It appears you are rather far behind on Java maintenance.  This is "current":

java version "1.6.0" 
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160sr9fp1-20110303_01(SR9 FP1)) 
IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, JRE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31 
jvmmz3160sr9-20110203_74623 (JIT enabled, AOT enabled)
J9VM - 20110203_074623  
JIT  - r9_20101028_17488ifx3 
GC   - 20101027_AA) 
JCL  - 20110203_01

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Re: Managing WLM manged initiators

[Vernooij, CP - SPLXM]

""??? ?? ???""  wrote in message
news:...
> Hi,
> 
> We've started using WLM managed initiators.
> 
> Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators
per class, and even per system.
> The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC
command.
> Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values
per system?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gadi
> 

See the $DSRVCLASS command to display the current limits set by WLM and
used by JES2.

Kees.

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Re: ENQ/DEQ for CICS Transaction ID

[Jan MOEYERSONS]

On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 14:32:46 -0500, Chase, John  wrote:

>> -Original Message-
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Starr, Alan
>> 2) You have some code following the EXEC CICS ENQ to detect ENQBUSY
>
>Actually, that's not necessary unless you want to enable the task to do
>something else if the target of the ENQ is "busy" (unavailable).
Yes, it is necessary.

>Default action is to suspend "this" task until the resource becomes
>available.
But not when one specifies the RESP keyword.

Cheers,

Jantje.

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Re: This forum is to help people with MVS or z/OS questions and problems

[Bonno, Tuco]

this stuff below is from the stratosphere region of excellence --  ἀρετή , as 
the ancient greeks would say. kudos to you, Mr Golob.

/s/ tuco bonno; 
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University of SouthEast Asia;
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Hi Folks,

 We must not forget what this wonderful forum is for.  It is for 
bringing up problems in the MVS (z/OS) area, and solving them.  It is 
for people putting their heads together and making the sum as being 
(far) more than the individual parts.  It is for cooperation.  And it is 
for PROGRESS.

 Any tools that help solve problems for us, are fair game to mention 
in this forum.  Sometimes the solution to a problem is a free tool (or 
once in a while, a "pay" tool).  (It just takes care of the problem, and 
the problem goes away.)  We have many of these tools on the CBT Tape, 
and therefore we can help solve many people's problems.  IBM doesn't 
have programming time to invent every tool--nor would we want them to.  
They have done enough by supporting the operating system and by buying 
out a lot of vendors.  Individual initiative should have its fair place, 
too, and we certainly want the right to write our own tools the way we 
want them to be.  So all of that is fine to talk about here--IBM's stuff 
OR OURS.

 In my own travels, I've (occasionally) come across individuals 
whose experiences, or position, induced them to prejudice themselves 
against me in my workplace.  Later on, when they were at another job (no 
longer in the same workplace as me), they woke up and realized that we 
are doing a public service with our tools, and that they (in their new 
position) need the tools just as much as they did when they worked 
together with me in the same shop.  THEN, they became appreciative and 
helpful, the same as everyone else.  People in certain positions, aren't 
objective.  But when you remove them from there, they wake up and ARE 
objective and appreciative.

 I think I understand (partially) our particular complainer.  He 
mentioned once, that in his shop, he was given the task of standardizing 
the shop and getting rid of all kinds of junk that consultants had 
installed there and left there.  In a large shop, this can be a big 
problem.  This junk can (understandably) sometimes get in the way of a 
later IBM release of a component.  One zapped or old module, 
concatenated in a library (somehow) ahead of the latest IBM versions of 
that module, can cause problems and abends which will interfere with the 
production work that is the shop's bread and butter.  So, given this 
task, he had to fill his brain for an extended period of time with the 
obsession of getting rid of non-standard modules and component parts and 
(unfortunately) extra tools in that system.  He wound up developing a 
mindset that anything non-standard had to be gotten rid of.  It seems 
that this mindset has stayed with him, hence the origin of some of his 
complaints.

 We need to establish a balance between a standard, working, and 
stable system, and also the extra tools that we all need.  Once the junk 
has been cleaned out, and the system has been put in order, one doesn't 
need to be obsessive any more.  At that point, extra tools are OK, 
because the situation has been brought under control.

 We all know that every individual has a different point of view.  
Those of us who have been around (most of us), have seen quite a few 
different points of view, and different approaches in the MVS 
sysprogging environment.

 But all this can be put to our advantage.  Nobody is in the same 
position, exactly.  Nobody has the same job (or talents) as anybody 
else, exactly.  Each of us can share the solutions to his or her 
problems with the rest of us, who have had to spend our time on other 
things.  So when there is diversity, which there always is, and we share 
our experiences, AND WE COOPERATE, then we all gain.  This is an 
absolute truth.

 That is really what this forum is all about.  (At least it is my 
view of it.)

 All the best of everything to all of you.

Sincerely,   Sam Golob

P.S.  Shai, you don't have to fight at all.  We'll do all the 
negotiating for you.  Just keep on producing your wonderful product and 
keep on talking about it.  I don't know of anything else that anyone has 
written (for a reasonable price at least)--anything that covers the same 
ground as your wonderful product does.  You just keep on working, keep 
on posting, and nobody had better start up with you, OR 
ELSE*@#$%&^&$%#@***

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Re: Console COMMAND

[Brian Westerman]

Sorry,  I think I messed up my last entry.

Any way, you should be able to convert your code to SYSREXX (System REXX).  

Also, I hate to bring it up because of the controversy about marketing, but we 
have automation products (SyzCMD/z and SyzMPF/z) which provide the type of 
automation you are looking for.  They are extremely inexpensive and there is a 
good discount for IBM-MAIN and SHARE members, and better yet, are completely 
supported, we just successfully tested all of our code under z/OS 1.13.

You can execute your exec as part of our product (it allows you to execute 
REXX), but chances are that the internal commands will probably do the job as 
well or better.

Again, I hate to bring up the marketing stuff, but in this case it applies 
quite well if you are not interested in the System REXX approach.

Brian Westerman
Syzygy Incorporated
www.syzygyinc.com

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Managing WLM manged initiators

[גדי בן אבי]

Hi,

We’ve started using WLM managed initiators.

Using JES2 commands we can specify the maximum number of initiators per class, 
and even per system.
The number of jobs per system is visible and changeable using the JC command.
Does anyone know of a utility that can display and change the values per system?

Thanks

Gadi


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Re: CFSIZER?

[Barbara Nitz]

Well, as of today, Sizer is broken again. I get the MQ errors again.  For the 
health checker structure (which previously gave me a cflevel13 answer) I now 
get the MQ error, too. 

A hit&miss tool.

Barbara

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Re: Bringing up OAM for 1st Time Require IPL?

[John McKown]

You can start OAM with the command: S OAM
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2o361/5.3

HOWEVER - OAM must be defined as a subsystem in the IEFSSNnn member of
PARMLIB before you can do it. So, most likely, you need up update
IEFSSNnn (and possibly create an IGDSMSnn PARMLIB member), then IPL. 
http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/dgt2i660/4.7.1

Another possibility is the SETSSI command:

http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA2G1B2/4.50

SETSSI ADD,SUB=OAM,I=IGDSSIIN,P='ID=??'

Where ID=?? specifies the IGDSMS?? member of PARMLIB. SMS doesn't seems
to support the SETSSI command.


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> Is an IPL required to bring OAM up for the first time?
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JDBC type 2 with java6

[Matan Cohen]

Hi,
please excuse me for any lack of knowledge in this area,

I have a compenet running under USS which used the JDBC jars from DB2 8.10V
.
I needed to upgrade it to run under  J6.0

*/Z110/usr/lpp/java/J6.0/bin: >./java -version   *
*java version "1.6.0"
 *
*Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build pmz3160-20071123_01)
*
*IBM J9 VM (build 2.4, J2RE 1.6.0 IBM J9 2.4 z/OS s390-31
jvmmz3160-20071121_1501*
*5 (JIT enabled)
*
*J9VM - 20071121_015015_bHdSMr
*
*JIT  - r9_20071121_1330
*
*GC   - 20071031_AA)
*
*JCL  - 20071118_01  *

when starting the compenet with Java 6 i get this error :
com.ibm.db2.jcc.b.SqlException: ÝDB2/T2zOS¨ÝJDBC/SQLJ¨ Incompatable JVM. The
Dri
ver REQUIRES Java 2 support and is not compatible with the JVM:1.6.0


from DB2 literature :
*"**JDBC/SQLJ Driver for OS/390 and z/OS (deprecated)*
*

The JDBC/SQLJ Driver for OS/390® and z/OS is a type 2 driver that contains
most of the functions that are described in the JDBC 1.2 specification. This
driver also includes some of the functions that are described in the JDBC
2.0 specification.

The JDBC/SQLJ 2.0 Driver for OS/390 and z/OS supports these functions:

   - Global transactions that run under WebSphere Application Server Version
   4.0 and above
   - Implementation of Java user-defined functions and stored procedures
   - SQLJ statements that perform equivalent functions to all JDBC methods
   - Connection pooling

To use this driver, you need Java 2 Technology Edition, SDK 1.3 or later. To
implement Java stored procedures or user-defined functions, you need Java 2
Technology Edition, SDK 1.3.1, SDK 1.4.1 or later."
*
I wonder if this is one of the reason it is label as depracated ?


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UK - Next Meeting of the GSE Large Systems Working Group

[Mark Wilson]

Hi,

Just a gentle reminder that we have the next meeting of the GSE Large Systems 
Working Group on the 19th July 2011 at CA Ditton Park.

Agenda and registration details can be found at: 
http://lsx.gse.org.uk/future.html

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smf14 and ds cache read

[Monika Amiss]

Hello group,

  is it possible to determine with SMF-Records (14,41,42,..)  if a 
dataset-block was read from disk, lla (direcotory read), vlf (modules), or 
PDS/E-caching. We want  to optimize our I/O processing. 
Any hint appreciated. With best regards
Monika

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