Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. Wait until Gen X+1 gets its hand on the 2.5PB machine. They would only weep that their machine does not have an EB of storage ! Nagesh -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
In CAFO-8tooGjrKVnYo3Dt5yv0nfdAn=ckkmebbkl86-0nsnnt...@mail.gmail.com, on 01/15/2012 at 12:13 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com said: I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... 32 GiB of auxillary storage, perhaps, but I seriously doubt 8 GiB of processor storage. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. It's a start, until we figure out how to make it denser. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom memory bit
begin snippet I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. /end snippet It is convenient to look at John von Neumann, Lectures on probabilistic logics and the synthesis of reliable organisms from unreliable components, in Automata studies, edited by Claude Shannon and John McCarthy, Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1957. von Neumann delivered the first versions of these lectures at Caltech in 1952. In them he shows that redundancies of about 28,000 suffice to construct computers of arbitrary reliability, in which the mean free path between errors is long in relation to a human life. Neither such redundancies nor arbitrary reliability has yet been achieved, but von Neumann judged it foregone that they would be. All three of these seminal figures are gone, von Neumann in 1957, Shannon in 2001, and McCarthy in 2011. All three would have been unsurprised by this announcement. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Linda, This development is simply amazingas a dinosaur of the original 80 column card age ...things have really changed, big time Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Linda - Original Message - From: zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 9:13:24 PM Subject: Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit On Sat, Jan 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi John and Ed, Yowsers! That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. I suspect your iPhone has 32GB, not MB... And let's not start swapping You had 8MB? We had 5 bytes...and we LOVED it! stories, eh? Related, however: this could make a reality something I read a while ago suggestion that memory would soon be cheap enough that we could have HD video of our surroundings recording constantly. This could/would change things a fair bit, both good and bad. -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Provide a utility to remove residual systems from the sysplex CDS
MR1026112735 Title - Provide a utility to remove residual systems from the sysplex CDS I am told that this request, pointed out by Barbara Nitz, had been answered incorrectly and that the response has been corrected to recognized. Peter Relson z/OS Core Technology Design -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom memory bit
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, John Gilmore wrote: begin snippet I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. /end snippet It is convenient to look at John von Neumann, Lectures on probabilistic logics and the synthesis of reliable organisms from unreliable components, in Automata studies, edited by Claude Shannon and John McCarthy, Princeton: Princeton University Press, 1957. [...] All three of these seminal figures are gone, von Neumann in 1957, Shannon in 2001, and McCarthy in 2011. All three would have been unsurprised by this announcement. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA However, I guess they would have been a bit surprised finding that a future superportable machine sporting zetabyte of persistent ram and a miniature cyclotron does not have a compiler on board. Perhaps they would be asking questions, like, it is so soft and cannot compile, so what you folks use it for, twice a day. Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did rm -rif on the programmer's home** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_r...@bigfoot.com ** -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Indeed--we've all made that typo! The good news is that I'm not aware of any environment in which both are a simultaneous options, so we're unlikely to wind up with 1/1000 of what we wanted... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Zman, Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones... Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 11:20 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Linda Mooney linda.lst...@comcast.net wrote: Hi zMan, Ah, well, whatz a couple of typpos among firends? :) Indeed--we've all made that typo! The good news is that I'm not aware of any environment in which both are a simultaneous options, so we're unlikely to wind up with 1/1000 of what we wanted... -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
linda.lst...@comcast.net (Linda Mooney) writes: That's really tiny! Just in my career - The first machine I was paid to work with was a 4341 with 8MB and 8 channels. My IPhone has 32MB. The possibilities of 2.5 Petabytes is, well, an awful lot. I can't help but wonder what some of the early computing pioneers would think of this. In the 90s, I had done a project that required ten high-end rs/6000 servers (to handle workload that couldn't be handled by half-dozen large 3090s). However by middle of last decade ... there was that much processor power (one BIPS) in cell-phone processor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XScale by comparison, recent z196 announce claims 50BIPS in maximum configured (80 processor) system http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/09/01/ibm-unveils-worlds-fastest-microprocessor/ my first programming class was student fortran on 709. my first programming job was porting 1401 MPIO to 360/30 that had 64kbytes ... I got to design implement my own monitor, devices drivers, interrupt handlers, error recovery, storage management, etc. low-end 360 were 0.0018 to 0.034 MIPs. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_System/360 and http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/mainframe/mainframe_PP2030.html -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS Java JVM question
Thanks for your responses. The problem turned out to be because my JVM launcher was APF and the JNI routine was not. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Justin R. Bendich Sent: 13 January 2012 21:53 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS Java JVM question Steve Austin wrote: Having successfully created the JVM I can then find my class and run the main method. However, if I add code the call a JNI routine the class can no longer be found [...] Make sure that your LIBPATH environment variable includes the directory in which the required load module resides. If the required load module is an external link (to a PDSE), you must also ensure that the STEPLIB DD includes the library containing your module (i don't know whether this is in batch or from the OMVS shell). Justin -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. - - This email has been scanned for all known viruses by the MessageLabs Email Security Service and the Macro 4 internal virus protection system. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Underscore character
A Gainsford writes: begin snippet Actually, the real obstacle to the use of break character is that, anachronistic or not, most people already understand what the term underscore character means, while break character produces only confusion. My expectation is therefore that most will quite sensibly continue to use underscore. /end snippet Regrettably, their forceful expression does not endow Mr Gainsford's views with substantive merit. The OED defines the verb to underscore as to draw a line or score underneath, to underline The character '_' does not have this function. It cannot indeed be used in this way. To call it an underscore is thus at once incorrect and rather silly. It is of a piece with Mr Gainford's misuse of the word 'anachronistic'. These things said, dubious language is not genocide; and I suspect that this topic too has been exhausted. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
Wow, 16k. On a 360/20. .man Sent from my iPad Scott Ford Senior Systems Engineer www.identityforge.com On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com wrote: Howz about 32K on an SS80? Some not so good... In a message dated 1/15/2012 11:19:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, scott_j_f...@yahoo.com writes: Geez..8mb on a 4381. Brings back a bunch of memories, real good ones -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Underscore character
In article capd5f5o4mxgbx35dfnbl6bfkx6x6v0bl-_myln_qfwqdy4d...@mail.gmail.com you write: [...] to draw a line or score underneath, to underline The character '_' does not have this function. It cannot indeed be used in this way. To call it an underscore is thus at once incorrect and rather silly. It is of a piece with Mr Gainford's misuse of the word 'anachronistic'. Yes, it does provided that your printer has the ability to overprint. You simply overprint the desired text with the '_' character. Example using ASA control chars on a line printer: +The word is underscored. ___ -- Rich Greenberg Sarasota, FL, USA richgr atsign panix.com + 1 941 378 2097 Eastern time. N6LRT I speak for myself my dogs only.VM'er since CP-67 Canines: Val, Red, Shasta, Zero Casey (At the bridge)Owner:Chinook-L Canines: Red Cinnar (Siberians) Retired at the beach Asst Owner:Sibernet-L -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Underscore character
Regrettably, their forceful expression does not endow Mr Gainsford's views with substantive merit. The OED defines the verb to underscore as to draw a line or score underneath, to underline The character '_' does not have this function. It cannot indeed be used in this way. To call it an underscore is thus at once incorrect and rather silly. It is of a piece with Mr Gainford's misuse of the word 'anachronistic'. The underscore character does indeed have this function, and has been used in this way countless times, on a device called a typewriter. As others have pointed out, it has also been used this way, countless more times, on overprinted lines of computer printout. The fact that underscoring with a typewriter or a printer is now nearly a thing of the past (thus making it, in fact, anachronistic) in no way invalidates the name underscore. Allen Gainsford Info Developer, Banking Shared Services HP Enterprise Services (South Pacific) Office +64-4-819-5236 | Fax +64-4-819-5955 | Email allen.gainsf...@hp.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
REXX Calling SDSF abend 878-10
Hi I have a rexx calling SDSF using the following statement; CALL *(SDSF) As I run the rexx code several times in the same tso session, the rexx abends with S878-10 and no longer can run until recycling my TSO session. I suspect the SDSF program didn't freemain the storage it acquired when it returned the control back to the caller. Is this a limitation or is there a way to get around it? Could anyone help. thanks in advance. Al -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
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Re: IBM researchers make 12-atom magnetic memory bit
In 905a.699bcad5.3c449...@aol.com, on 01/15/2012 at 04:05 PM, Ed Finnell efinnel...@aol.com said: Howz about 32K on an SS80? The UNIVAC SS80 and SS90 were decimal machines. Some not so good... UNIVAC 1005? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: REXX Calling SDSF abend 878-10
Hi I have a rexx calling SDSF using the following statement; CALL *(SDSF) As I run the rexx code several times in the same tso session, the rexx abends with S878-10 and no longer can run until recycling my TSO session. I suspect the SDSF program didn't freemain the storage it acquired when it returned the control back to the caller. Is this a limitation or is there a way to get around it? Could anyone help. thanks in advance. Al Why are you calling SDSF? If you are on the correct level of z/OS (z/OS V1.9 and above) you can use the SDSF REXX interface. Please provide level of z/OS you are running. Also, look at this link on SDSF REXX http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247419.html Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
