Re: California's COBOL payroll system

2008-08-06 Thread Dave Thorn
He just replied to my email to the .net address.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Wayne Driscoll
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2008 11:26 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: California's COBOL payroll system

I found both, the cmu.edu is from the main CMU faculty page, and the
farber.net address is from the computer science college web site.  Like
many
of us, I am sure that he has even more addresses.

Wayne Driscoll
Product Developer
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Wayne Driscoll wrote:
 For those who might be interested in letting Mr. Farber know what you
think
 of his comments, his e-mail address is dfarber at cmu.edu.  
 
 Wayne Driscoll
 Product Developer
 NOTE:  All opinions are strictly my own.

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Re: embarresing request

2008-08-06 Thread Dave Thorn
In WLM, set up a scheduling environment for each system.  Associate the
production only jobs with the production SE, and the not production
only with the other one.  Turn the respective resources on with
automation.  If a not production job tries to run on the production
system, the resource it needs won't be available and it will just sit
there.

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We have a two system basic sysplex. Basically, SY1 is for production
only and SY2 is from not production only. Don't ask - politics. I do
have a JES2 MAS. So now, we need some way to prevent a job from running
on the wrong system.  I currently have an IEFUJI exit which run on the
non production only system which JCLs a job which has a bad jobname
or job class. I don't really like this. Does anybody have any idea for a
free-as-in-beer solution. Or do I just extend the IEFUJI exit to be
bigger and hairier?

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Re: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

2008-05-02 Thread Dave Thorn
Tom, we have had similar issues where it impacts performance too.  What
we did was to assign it to a Resource Group to keep it from hurting
others while still giving it enough resources to get its work done.

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Subject: Connect:Direct (NDM) CPU Usage

We run Connect:Direct (used to be called NDM) from Sterling Commerce.
Yesterday afternoon the started task, CDNDM, took from 50-60% of an
engine on our z9BC for almost 2 hours while it transferred a large file.
This caused us to hit our softcap and affected other tasks in the
system.  We have the CDNDM task running in our STCLO service class which
is set for Vel=50 and an importance level of 4.  It was still running at
a high DP and grabbed the CPU.  I can't understand why a task that is
basically transmitting a file over the network should need this much
CPU.  My only explanation might be that it is compressing the data
before putting it on the network and the compression algorithm isn't the
most efficient in the world.

 

Has anyone else had this kind of a problem running Connect:Direct?
What, if anything, did you do to control it?

 

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Commerce Bank of Kansas City

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Re: SYSAFF card

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Thorn
A job can run on any LPAR that has a job class matching the one on the
job card.  This is the simple answer; where a job runs can be managed
with WLM and other things such as automation.

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If you do not use a SYSAFF card thereby taking the default of SYSAFF=ANY
will a job run only on the LPAR that it is submitted from? Can it ever
run on an LPAR other than the one submitted without a SYSAFF card?
   
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Re: Workload Manager

2008-04-03 Thread Dave Thorn
Another good one would be Barry Merrill's listservwhile it's
generally oriented toward his MXG product there are often performance
discussions there as well.  See www.mxg.com   And system performance is
one of the main areas of interest at CMG...if you can get out of the
office.

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You are here.  This is it.

Although Al Sherkow runs a list for capacity/billing
concerns/performance
concerns.  I don't follow that one as I find it above my head, too
management oriented for me.

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Hi Everyone,
Does anyone know of a Workload Manager users group or listserver?
Thanks,
Mary Yukus

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Re: CPU-Time in z/Os-System. Is The Cpu Time In z/Os-systems A Meaningful Indication?

2008-04-02 Thread Dave Thorn
And is it running on the same physical machine every time?  Or are there
multiple systems of different speeds where it can execute?

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Meaningful Indication?

 I have a programm written in Cobol which runs monthly on a
z/Os-System.
 The programm reads inputrecords and writes them in a database (DB2)
and in
 different outputfiles. It consumes nearly the same numbers of input
 records every month. I wonder now, why there are so great differences
in the
 consumed cpu-time. For example: Last month the programm consumed due
to
 the job protocol 11.25 (what ever that means) and this month it
consumed
 16.33

If the COBOL program simply looped it would use a certain amount of CPU
time and that amount of time would be more or less the same every time
you ran it on a given machine. However your COBOL program does useful
work, reading and writing data. It consumes system services while doing
that and those system services are related to the amount of data being
processed. 

So if the amount of data being processed is about the same then you
would expect the amount of system resources (including CPU) to be about
the same. You are seeing roughly a 5 second (45%) increase in CPU
consumption, so that is far outside of what you might expect from random
variations. 

Are you sure your program is processing the same amount of data?

If the amount of data really is about the same then you have to look to
the organization of the data. For your input files; the block size may
have changed which could lead to an increase in CPU time, but it is
unlikely that you would see such a big change. For your output; there
are lots of minor changes that can have major impacts on performance in
DB2. That pretty much leaves DB2 as the potential culprit. I would look
there first.

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Re: WLM and TSO

2008-03-25 Thread Dave Thorn
It depends on your CPU speed and characteristics of TSO usage.  If your
users run lots of long transactions like searches, CLISTs, foreground
things, they could suffer.  Most TSO activity (in my experience) is of
the short variety, so as you see below I'm not shy about making 1st
period imp=1, but for just 500 service units.  We also try to get some
things through in period 2 with a pretty aggressive goal.  Works OK
here, but probably not for everyone.

You might ask your users what they're trying to do when they hang.

Duration   Imp.  Description 
 
500 195% complete within 00:00:01.000
5   295% complete within 00:00:15.000
5Execution velocity of 5 

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Subject: WLM and TSO

I am no performance expert and I am basically mostly using Cheryl Watson
quickstart (or whatever it is called). We are only using one service
class
for TSO users.  For the most part it works fine but during batch window
we
have times when the operators let a bunch of stuff run in high priority
batch service class.  During those times, TSO users tend to sit and
hang. 
Of course, the operators bump up their own priority so they don't have a
problem.  I am looking for suggestions as to how to setup the service
class
for TSO users to avoid having them hang during these situations.

Here is my service class for TSO:

Base goal:
CPU Critical flag: NO

  #  Duration   Imp  Goal description
  -  -  -
  1  800280% complete within 00:00:00.300
  2 4Execution velocity of 40


Here is my service class for PRDBATHI (which I am assuming is causing
the
problem):

Base goal:
CPU Critical flag: NO

  #  Duration   Imp  Goal description
  -  -  -
  1 3Execution velocity of 40


Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Aimee

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Re: Question on Out Sourcing

2008-02-13 Thread Dave Thorn
With us that stuff is all spelled out in the contract.  No surprises
later.

How can an IT director have only Windows experience?  Does that mean my
mother could be an IT director?  : )

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Better to check the agreement very thoroughly. I would want to know,
before signing, what is covered *after* the contract has been signed.
You might be surprised at what you'll be paying for a few weeks down the
road after the contract has been signed and you need *x* to be
investigated, solved, implemented, upgraded, etc... for you by the
outsourcer. 
   
  I'm willing to bet that a lot of companies get hit with hidden fee's
down the line where it becomes evident that outsourcing is ending up
costing more that was originally thought.

Pat Mihalec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I know this but I needed it from someone else to show the current 
director. He has not mainframe experience, his background is Windows. He

thinks that if you move to the outsourcer system you no longer pay the 
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I suggested he ask the outsourcer directly about this.

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Re: Worst Predictions of All Time

2008-01-11 Thread Dave Thorn
She forgot the one from the half wit who predicted the date  time of
the shutdown of the last mainframe.

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Re: abusing WLM's classification rules

2007-12-28 Thread Dave Thorn
First, try telling the user they can't have the whole machine except at
3 a.m. on Sundays.

You could try creating a multi-period service class for the batch jobs.
The 1st period could mirror the AFAST service class in importance,
velocity, etc., with a long enough duration so that most (or many) of
them end there.  The 2nd period would similarly mirror the A service
class.  Hopefully there aren't 20 of these batch jobs running
concurrently.

Could you figure out a resource group for the STC with a relatively high
minimum and a max value that's only a little higher?  Guarantee good (or
pretty good) service but not enough to eat the machine.  (sounds like
you're on a uniprocessor??)

If you ARE on a uni, all the more reason to be firm with them unless
they are related to the CIO or something.

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I've got a bit of a problem. I have an STC which runs in one of two
different service classes. Call them A and AFAST. Both service classes
are assigned to a different resource group. This is because the STC can
simply soak the entire machine. So, as a political solution, we did a
resource group. Well, eventually, that was not good enough. The people
wanted, on occassion, to have more resource than normal. That's where
AFAST came in. Now, this has morphed a bit because one option in this
STC is to offload processing from the STC to a batch job. I need all
batch jobs submitted by this STC to run with service class (A or AFAST)
that the STC was running in at the time the job was submitted. I know,
I'm out of luck in this. Any ideas how I might get it done? The problem
is the dynamic (by hand) switching of the STC between A and AFAST on
demand by the user.

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Re: WLM question.

2007-12-17 Thread Dave Thorn
When you figure it out let me know.   : )

Seriously, don't even try.  Instead, look into defining a Resource
Group(s) for work that is at the bottom of the pile.  If you REALLY want
it to get some CPU, define a minimum amount of service you want it to
get and WLM will try to do it for you.  However, if the minimum is too
large you may still impact production.  (If it's on the same LPAR)  


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Re: Is it possible to get them? (Pierce, Bernard's old papers)

2007-11-09 Thread Dave Thorn
www.cmg.org

You can order previous CMG Proceedings -
http://www.cmg.org/national/publications.html#Order

I think that you may be able to order individual papers if they are
available.  Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask for the info.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Johnny Luo
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 10:50 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Is it possible to get them? (Pierce, Bernard's old papers)

Tom,

Thank you very much for the info.

I also tried to find the website of CMG but only got CMGA
(http://www.cmga.org.au/).

I am wondering whether they have softcopy of papers for sale. I wanna
have a try if possible.

Johnny

On Nov 9, 2007 11:29 PM, Tom Moulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Johnny

 The first paper was presented at CMG in 1995.  To the best of my
knowledge,
 CMG does not have softcopy of papers before 1997 (the last ten years).
You
 might find someone that attended the conference in 1995 and still has
the
 paper copy of the proceedings.  I do not still have my copy of the
 proceedings.

 Your best avenue to get the papers might be to track down Bernard R.
Pierce.

 I can not find him as a current member of CMG.

 Tom Moulder




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Re: Restricting a SYSPLEX LPAR with WLM

2007-11-08 Thread Dave Thorn
You could set up a Scheduling Environment for Sysprog jobs (ONLY) and
another one for everything else that's batch.  During normal operation
both are active on all sysplex LPARs.  During the test window, turn OFF
the Everything Else environment on the LPAR you're testing on, leaving
only the Sysprog environment active.  When testing is complete the
Everything Else environment is set back on.

Maybe not the most efficient solution, but it will work.  You'd need to
make sure both environments are active after an IPL thru use of your
automation software or else you'll be scratching your head wondering why
batch isn't running.


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Re: ADMINISTRIVIA: Announcement!

2007-10-30 Thread Dave Thorn
Communist.   : )

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Re: IPL an LPAR with a very low weight?

2007-10-28 Thread Dave Thorn
The customer wants the small LPAR to come up on request only and we
want to give the MIPS from the small LPAR to the one weighted at 47,
i.e. raise it to 56.  It sounds like the best/safest thing to do is NOT
make the weight=1.

The box usually is not 100% busy, but can be depending on activity.

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Hi Dave --

I suspect you wouldn't be considering this unless you were having
problems
with CPU resource contention in the two big LPARs (at 47 and 43). What
kind
of machine is this? how many engines? 

If this small LPAR is down, and the box is nearly 100% busy, IPLing this
LPAR will be very slow, and this small LPAR may slow down the others in
the
sysplex and MIM.

What is the real problem you are trying to solve? 

Al

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IPL an LPAR with a very low weight?

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Thorn
If an LPAR (in a down state) were set to a very low weight (1, for
instance) and then IPLed, would there be problems?

This assumes that the other LPARs are not at high utilizations and using
all the CPU cycles themselves.  

Has anyone done this?  Have problems occurred?

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Re: IPL an LPAR with a very low weight?

2007-10-26 Thread Dave Thorn
2 other LPARs on this box: one weight is 47 the other is 43.  We want to
make the 3rd LPAR=1 (down from 10) and give the other 9 to the one at
47.

This LPAR shares MIM with one LPAR on this box and 2 other LPARs on 2
other boxes; all are in the same sysplex.  So if it IPLs slowly that's
where the problems occur?


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On Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:44:43 -0400, Dave Thorn wrote:

If an LPAR (in a down state) were set to a very low weight (1, for
instance) and then IPLed, would there be problems?

This assumes that the other LPARs are not at high utilizations and
using
all the CPU cycles themselves.

Has anyone done this?  Have problems occurred?
 
 
Depends, of course.  For starters the weight is relative to the
aggregate for 
the CEC - if that is only, say, 2 (with 2 LPARs weighted at 1 each) you
ought 
not expect to have any problems at all.  Probably not your case though.

 
Is your LPAR sharing any resources with any others?  GRS or MIM come to 
mind here... if you need to run those on your resource challenged LPAR
then 
you are a troublemaker.  
 
If your whimpy LPAR is a monplex, sharing nothing then no, it isn't a
problem 
per se.  More of an opportunity to catch up on your reading while you
wait for 
it to respond.  
 
(We do it with a sandbox system and it is pretty pokey when the other
LPARs 
are guzzling MIPS.  Still, it all works but at an HO-scale. Just not the
way to 
run a real railroad.)  
 
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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Thorn
1.  You need to cap the LPAR at the 200 MIP level.  (on the panel I
believe it's a check box under Initial Capping)  If you have 2 LPARs
on a 1000 MIP machine, for example, and all CPs are shared, you could
weight the capped LPAR at 20 and the other at 80.   (20/100=.2,
.2*1000=200)  
2.  Yes, it can be changed dynamically.

This is a simple explanation...apply it carefully to your environment!

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Hi,

I am using shared processor across LPARS. I need to restrict my one LPAR
to
200 MIPS only so that it can not consume more than 200 mips. I am also
using
Coupling Facility.

How can I achieve that ? What Initial Weight I need to assign in the
Change
Logical LPAR controls panel ?

Can I change it dynamically ?



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Re: Logical PRocessor assignment - Processor Weight

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Thorn
Correct.  I was just using the environment presented and assuming all
LPARs were IPLed.  But if the smaller LPAR is capped I don't think it
will exceed the cap, regardless of what else is going on.

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Relative weight LPAR sizing is subject to the mix of LPARs that are
active at any given point in time.  In your example, if the LPAR whose
weight is 80 is not IPL'd then the LPAR with weight=20 will get 100% of
the processor (1000 MIPS in your numerical example) without changing the
weight numbers.  This is a far cry from the 200 MIP target.  I believe
that the calculation is:
  
  ((LPAR weight)/SUM(all _active_ LPAR weights))*(CEC capacity)

Again, assuming that initial capping is activated.


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Re: Setting Weights on LPARs

2007-10-05 Thread Dave Thorn
Changing the weight from 65 to 75 (in your particular environment)
increased the available MIPS to the PROD LPAR by 15%:  (75-65)/65=15.3%

Another simple example:  if you have 1000 MIPS, your Prod LPAR went from
650 to 750 MIPS, which is not an insignificant change.  Conversely, the
test LPAR went from 350 to 250 MIPS.

If you are not capping, both LPARs have access to MIPS that the other
LPAR is not using.  The weights come into play when things get busy.

You can measure this by comparing things like TSO performance, batch
turnaround times, online response time, and by how loud the complaints
are (if any).  MXG will give you info on all of that except for the
complaints.  For those you're on your own.

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Hypothesis:  If I reset the weights on my 2 LPAR box to 60/40  or 75/25
what
would I see.  What reports would help me see if this is doing any good?
I
have MXG and SAS.  I can also run RMFPP.  I have not really gotten into
performance tuning on this level so I need to try and find the reports
that
will help me understand this picture better.


Thanks

Lizette


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Re: z/OS job market (I could just scream!)

2007-07-27 Thread Dave Thorn
Me too.  I also had to sign a statement when I got out stating that I
wouldn't go to one of those countries for 4 years or something like
that.

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In the early 70's when I was in the Army, I was told that I could not  
go to any Iron Curtain country (except W. Berlin but needed orders  
for that) because of the security clearance I had. I did travel all  
over Europe (hit most of the countries) except Greece. I am still  
sorry I didn't make it to there. I just got in my car and went  
anyplace I could. I had 7 days (every other week) to make it there  
and come back.

Ed

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Re: How much do you value Share ( Was Spam from SHARE)

2007-07-26 Thread Dave Thorn
Lizette is correct.  I have been very involved in CMG for years, which
most of you have probably heard of and/or attended.  The income provided
by vendors/sponsors is very important in keeping YOUR costs of attending
down.  Imagine what it would cost without them, not to mention your job
of justifying attending at a higher price.  And these things, CMG as
well as SHARE, are pricey enough already.  

At CMG we handle vendor emails differently than SHARE, and I understand
the spam problem.  But as Lizette says, there's a delete key.  And we
all know how to use it.

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Listers - 

I must now put my two cents in.

How much corporate sponsorship do you think Share gets?  I would think
most
of their funding comes from the vendors.  And the only reason the
vendors
provide sponsorship is so they can get at us.

If everyone opted out of notification of vendor products - do you think
Share would continue to get the funds they need so that they can put on
the
conferences for us?  Or is everything free?  The hotel, the conference
rooms, the snacks between sessions, the handouts?  Or our fees paid
enough
for all of that?

I know how to use a delete key, or say I am not interested at this
time or
pitch something into the waste basket.

I am okay with this so long as Share continues to provide the conference
at
the level it is at currently.

Now, I am not on the board and I am not sure how or where the
sponsorship
funds go to.  But it is something to consider.

Just my opinion

Lizette

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Re: Capacity Planning 101

2007-04-11 Thread Dave Thorn
We (CMG) are in the planning stages of making past papers available.  Stay
tuned.  In the meantime, you can purchase a CMG membership for $175, which
includes the proceedings (on CD) from CMG2006.  And now is a good time to
start working on your management to let you attend this year's conference!

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Hello.
It has been sometime since I've done Capacity Planning  Tuning so I am
looking for  web-sites (CMG), papers, etc.  that I can study/read to brush
away the cobwebs; get ideas for a plan, strategy.
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Re: Spreading Batch Work Across LPARS

2006-08-03 Thread Dave Thorn
1.  A new init class configuration, where class 'a' is on one LPAR and not
the other.  Extending this to multiple classes would force work to one LPAR
or the other depending on a job's class.
2. WLM Scheduling Environments.  Run some applications on one LPAR, other
applications on the other.
3.  I don't have Thruput Manager but it sounds pretty flexible; maybe they
have something that can do this easier than #1 and 2 above.

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We have two lpars that perform the vast majority of our batch work. CA7
runs
on one of these lpars and most of the CA7 submitted jobs are picked up by
the
JES2 on that system. This leaves the other system almost empty of batch
work
while the first system is being over loaded.

What are some of our options to spread the workload across both systems on
an
equal basis.

zOS 1.4. JES2 managed batch. Thruput manager is available.

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Re: publications

2006-06-29 Thread Dave Thorn
The CMG Journal

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You might look up z/Journal, ESJ (Enterprise Systems Journal), Wall
Street Journal (put a business slant on it), start a blog, etc.

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Re: URGENT

2006-05-15 Thread Dave Thorn
Do it from the DA screen.  That's what you get in the ST screen.

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Also in the jes output queue when we try to cancel or purge the output I'm
seeing:

  ACTIVE MODIFY INVALID

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Re: WLM Classification Question

2006-04-06 Thread Dave Thorn
Are you using TNG's?  (or other kinds of groups)  Maybe you're getting a
hit there before you get to the TN's?

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Re: Friday Topic...

2006-03-24 Thread Dave Thorn
A little fun on this list, limited to Fridays, never hurt anyone.  Lighten
up gang.

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Made my day too.  The guy is really good!

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Re: Using SMF data on a PC? Any software to assist?

2006-01-23 Thread Dave Thorn
www.mxg.com

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 Is there any package(IBM, or otherwise) to analyse SMF datasets
 directly on a PC? (Windows, Unix, etc..)??

SAS is avalaible for Windows and I think Unix.

We are looking at getting rid of SAS on z/OS and replacing it with SAS
on PC's.

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Re: Its a question of ethics

2005-12-12 Thread Dave Thorn
Doggone right it's ethical, especially if your intent is to inform and not
to disparage.  If it were with bad intentions I'd say no to your question.

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  I have this question.

  Lets say I have worked for an organization for a few years and then
  decide to leave…on good terms for the most part but you didn’t feel that
  the management was fare so you picked myself up and find a new job and
  resigned.  You weren't asked to leave nor did the management suggest
  that.

  Now you see that organization is posting the posting the position you
  held on the internet.

  I thought I would like to post a message on the list stating that if
  anyone was going to apply for that position they could give me a call or
  email off list and I could give that person a heads up regarding what to
  expect at the interview, possibly the people he/she would meet and maybe
  the kind of questions that would be asked.

  Also, what they might expect if hired in the future based on my past
  experience while employed there.

  Would you consider this ethical?

  If it was me applying for the position I certainly would appreciate
  having that information in my hip pocket.

  Thanks.



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Re: WLM swapout

2005-11-16 Thread Dave Thorn
If you want a service class do the following:  Create a service class
called, for example,  SLOW, and then created a Resource Group (also called
SLOW) associated with the service class, with min=0 and max=1 service
rates.

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Hi :

Do you know  what parameters  must  be coded  to  create a  Service Clase
like  a  Swap Out  Performance Group ?.

I need  eventually  to put  swap out  some  Jobs Batch.

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Re: A quick question about velocity goals set high

2005-09-28 Thread Dave Thorn
I think you have answered your own question.   The velocity is set so high
that it's unreachable.   My velocity goal for CICS and similar tasks is 40.
And things are fine.

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Estimeed lister

I'm in a shop were I see for some subsystems (CICS,CONTROM etc) a very high
velocity goal, that is 90%. PIs range from 1.4 to  2 and it NEVER reaches
1 nor it's below 1.

I read some pepres that a very high velocity goal (80%) is not good if not
useless and infact in my previous shop in some CICS we lowered our goals
without any delay in response time.

Is still bad to put velocity goals higher than 80% ? In IMHO it is.

Thank you in advance

Max Scarpa

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Re: SAS Procedurenames and --components

2005-09-08 Thread Dave Thorn
Do you use MXG?  If so, the variables SASPROC and SASPROD in the TYPESASU
file should contain what you're looking for.

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Gentle Listers

We are trying to  get rid of some SAS-components like SAS-Graph and
SAS-IML.
To get an idea about who uses these components, we activated the
SAS-SMF-Record. So far so good. We can now see when which SAS-procedure
gets
called; but could anybody point me to an url or a manual where I can find
out which SAS-procedurename belongs to which SAS-component?

Thanks a ton and have a good one

Cheers

Tom

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Re: HELP - can't IPL ZOS

2005-08-19 Thread Dave Thorn
It's been a while, but doesn't the 'message waiting' mean there's more
console 'stuff' but the screen's K command won't let it roll?  Change the
mode from RD to R and see if you get more info rolling by.


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Re: DST Bill may cause Electronic Setbacks.

2005-08-09 Thread Dave Thorn
And MIPs.   : )


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It's the American way.  :-/

E.g., sometime in the 1970s the US CONgress enacted legislation to
convert
the US to the metric system, with a deadline of 1980 or thereabouts.  As
you probably noticed at your last SHARE attendance, we still measure things
in inches, feet, yards, miles, ounces, pounds, pints, quarts, gallons,
degrees Fahrenheit, etc.

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Re: WLM data collection

2005-07-07 Thread Dave Thorn
I think I understand what you want:  Service class reporting across the
sysplex.  Here's how I do it

I dump the RMF records desired and then XMIT the data to one LPAR.  (all
DASD is not shared)  All the datasets are concatenated into the RMF
postprocessor JCL and I then can report by service class for all systems I
put into the JCL stream.  Slightly cumbersome but it works.


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I am trying to collect Sysplex-wide WLM performance data, compare actual
vs. desired. Unfortunately, or so it seems, WLM's IWMRCOLL macro only
provides information for the system on which it is invoked on. The
documentation indicates that 'monitors can use this to combine data'.

Is there a way to extract sysplex-wide information of service class
performance without manually merging this information in real-time?

After all, WLM calculates and adjusts performance parameters according
to measurements within the Sysplex (one definition per Sysplex). RMF III
reports on these and I have serious doubts that it does its own x-system
data aggregation.

Does anybody have any notable knowledge in this area?

Thanks in advance.

/re

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Re: WLM data collection

2005-07-07 Thread Dave Thorn
You could also check the Sysplex Performance Summary Report in RMF Monitor
III for real time info.


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Re: Washington Post: 40 Million Credit Card #s Hacked

2005-06-19 Thread Dave Thorn
SNIP
As far a Microsoft and security, this is interesting:

http://news.com.com/Microsoft+meets+the+hackers/2009-1002_3-5747813.html
  UNSNIP

Yes, interesting.  I too enjoy meeting with those in the business who are
smarter than I am, if you get my drift.


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Entry Level Sysprog Opportunity

2005-05-25 Thread Dave Thorn
http://www1.sungard.com/careers/careers.php?Job_ID=2747


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