Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread John Kim
I am so impressed your insight!  Please forgive me for off-line of the
topic.

Although I don't have stats in my hands, I can explain two things for
your understanding how they got over an economic crisis. 
Way back to mid of 1990s the economic crisis in S Korea was almost same
or bigger than last years in US, and it was controlled by IMF.
I experienced a big jump on the commodity price, especially 5 times
increase over the night for the  flour and toilet paper which had never
experienced since I was born in.  That's why I came over here for a
better quality of toilet paper with batter price.

First thing government tried to do was campaigning in order for them to
turn around an economic crisis;
- asking the nation to come out them with Gold from their draw or safe.
 
At that time I also sold my wedding & my children's baby-shower rings to
government, in a result world gold market was fluctuated, and gold price
was downward.

- Secondly Government tried to let people sign on an application for the
credit cards as many as possible in order to stimulate a financial
infrastructure.  

At that time my high school nephew had dozen cards, and still using it.

Eventually prevailing credit cards worked, and would be able to get over
an economic crisis, although they have a social crisis by over-spending
as fallout.

That's why they need extra wallet for more cards.

Sometime economists also don't understand how Korean economy works.

One thing I know is they are really superb at campaigning!

 

  

 
 

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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Ted MacNEIL  wrote:

> >That's the point of (EMV) "chip" cards.  >They are inherently more
secure.
>
> Why are they more secure?
> INTERAC Canada has been telling us that they are.
> So far, on their web-site, the proof presented has been: "They are
more
> secure".
>
> When they sent me my new chip card, through the bank I use, nothing
had
> changed.
> They even kept the same PIN, which is supposed to be a secret.
>
> Except for a different slot in the debit machine, the process for
payment
> is the same.
>
> Where is the 'enhanced' security?
> What makes it so?
>
> I honestly don't know if this is off-topic, because debit cards, in
Canada,
> are still processed on mainframes, for the Big Five, at least.
>
> And, the mainframe, if you aren't stupid, is still the most secure
> processing environment, chip cards aside.
>
> (Yes! My bias is showing.)
> -
> Too busy driving to stop for gas!
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I'm not trying to be argumentative here, but some of the number still
don't
just add up.

On a global basis the largest card processor in the world clears and
settles
about 10 billion USD on 250 to 300 million transactions per day..  Or
about
40 USD per transaction.  Assuming that the average in S. Korea
transaction
is 5 USD.  Then 200 million per day is a billion USD per day cleared and
settled.  This is over 360 billion USD per year.  The S. Korean economy
is
1.3 Trillion USD (2008) according to the CIA fact book.  That would mean
that 28% of the S. Korean economy is handled via Credit Card
transactions.
 This is more than 5 times the rate of the rest of the world.


If an average transaction rate of 20 USD was used it would be even more
extreme.  If a lower average transaction value was used, then fees and
charges would be a large portions of the profits that merchant would be
giving up.

Something does not balance.


That would

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Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread John Kim
I wouldn't agree that the financial structure in the US seems primitive,
but it's quite sure a lot less customer friendly.  The most tedious
thing was to participate in a campaign ' Customer is the king' on a
daily basis, although I was a computer guy there. No exception at all.

I can feel they have a lot less fraud incidents than Norte America.
Their system is kind of bureaucratic structure; instead Banks hire lots
of retired law-enforcement to look after who are fallen behind their
card payment.  

People over there has a perception that no pay to the bank, unless
borrow money.
Which means I am a king of the feeder for Banks, and Banks still makes
pretty big fortune with fees.  

Honestly I don't know how much portion in their profits from the fees if
they charge.
I was a system programming guy...

Regards John Kim

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Concur. It would appear that the consumer electronic financial
infrastructures are quite different outside of the US. Indeed, ours
seems pretty primitive and a lot less consumer friendly. More, they
don't seem to have quite as much of a fraud problem as we seem to have. 

I think I read somewhere that they don't use 'credit cards' as we know
them in Asia. Rather, it is more of a 'smart card' strategy. 

Wonder how this works without fees? 

  

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I will bow to the man with direct experience ... Base on reading the
article
it appeared to be talking about traditional Credit Card processing.  It
was
not clear to someone without directly knowledge of the S. Korean banking
system (me) that Credit Cards handle such a broad scope of financial
transactions.

Even then, it means an average of 5 transaction per day per card they
manage.  This is a very impressive number of transactions per card per
day.

Regards,
Sam

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:19 PM, John Kim  wrote:

> I am a positive side they process hundreds of millions of Credit Card
> transactions a day. I used work for the one of national banks (BC card
> member).
>
> Their banking system also quite remarkable that more than dozen of
> accounts from each bank are all connected to the card account;
> - They almost do every thing through banking systems - pay tax,
utility,
> cell phone,
>   Speeding ticket, home shopping, air-line ticket, and wiring to
> another bank...etc
> - Bus pass, Sub-way or toll-gate fare also paid from your bank
accounts
> directly when you screen the system in on-site.
>
>
>  All these transactions are linked to card account via banking
> accounts, but customers pay nothing to bank for transaction fee or any
> other service changes...
> No balance limits for waiver a service charges... not at all (but wire
> to other countries). Instead they stand up & bow to you when you step
> into the bank and advice you opening more accounts & cards.
>
> You don't even have to open the door because your first encounter is a
> door man.  He / She will hand out you pamphlets & asking the opening
> accounts & cards.
>
> We used hire university kids as a summer job. They were pretty good
> except random accident, some times bumped heads when they bowed each
> other.
>
>
> It can't be a simple comparison unless by population (45 million vs
> ??? million). Their system is quite different than US card companies;
I
> used have 7 BC cards from different banks that allowed more credit
> limits from each banks.
>
> - And also their changed attitude populates more cards; they used gift
> their children savings accounts for entering kindergarten or
> birthday...etc.  But now it has switched to credit cards & cell-phone
> (it's called hand-phone in S Korea).
>
>
>
>
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> Behalf Of Sam Siegel
> Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 4:15 AM
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> Subject: Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)
>
> There are other business related inaccuracies in the article as well.
> The
> article indicates that they process hundreds of millions of Credit
Card
> transactions a day.  Having previously worked at a large credit card
> processor in the US, it can be said with certainty that the S. Korean
> credit
> card volumes are orders of magnitude smaller than US volumes.  Th

Re: Korean bank Moves back to Mainframes (...no, not back)

2010-01-07 Thread John Kim
I am a positive side they process hundreds of millions of Credit Card
transactions a day. I used work for the one of national banks (BC card
member).

Their banking system also quite remarkable that more than dozen of
accounts from each bank are all connected to the card account;
- They almost do every thing through banking systems - pay tax, utility,
cell phone,
   Speeding ticket, home shopping, air-line ticket, and wiring to
another bank...etc
- Bus pass, Sub-way or toll-gate fare also paid from your bank accounts
directly when you screen the system in on-site.


  All these transactions are linked to card account via banking
accounts, but customers pay nothing to bank for transaction fee or any
other service changes... 
No balance limits for waiver a service charges... not at all (but wire
to other countries). Instead they stand up & bow to you when you step
into the bank and advice you opening more accounts & cards.   

You don't even have to open the door because your first encounter is a
door man.  He / She will hand out you pamphlets & asking the opening
accounts & cards.  

We used hire university kids as a summer job. They were pretty good
except random accident, some times bumped heads when they bowed each
other.  
 

It can't be a simple comparison unless by population (45 million vs
??? million). Their system is quite different than US card companies; I
used have 7 BC cards from different banks that allowed more credit
limits from each banks. 

- And also their changed attitude populates more cards; they used gift
their children savings accounts for entering kindergarten or
birthday...etc.  But now it has switched to credit cards & cell-phone
(it's called hand-phone in S Korea).  




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There are other business related inaccuracies in the article as well.
The
article indicates that they process hundreds of millions of Credit Card
transactions a day.  Having previously worked at a large credit card
processor in the US, it can be said with certainty that the S. Korean
credit
card volumes are orders of magnitude smaller than US volumes.  The US
volumes are in the range of 100 to 200 million per day depending on the
time
of the year.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Timothy Sipples
wrote:

> That's not the correct headline.
>
> BC Card isn't moving *back* to mainframes. In its 27+ year history, BC
Card
> has never had a mainframe -- nothing in the System z lineage, anyway.
They
> are now replacing HP and Sun UNIX servers, and Oracle databases, with
(a
> presumably small number of) IBM mainframes. They are new in almost
every
> possible mainframe-related way: new z/OS customer, new CICS
Transaction
> Server for z/OS customer, new WebSphere Application Server for z/OS
> customer, new System z10 customer, new mainframe customer.
>
> There are some things in the article I disagree with, but there's one
fact
> in particular that is most certainly not correct. The article says
this:
>
> "Sources at IBM say that this is the first Unix-to-mainframe
application
> migration in nearly a decade."
>
> I hate to disagree with "sources at IBM," but no, that's just
factually
> incorrect. I have personal knowledge of another such customer (in
Japan)
> who migrated their applications from distributed UNIX to z/OS with
Parallel
> Sysplex, and they never had a mainframe before. Quite possibly their
entire
> industry has never had a mainframe before, partly explaining why
they're
> not public. I suspect there are others.
>
> Which is not to say that this isn't significant news from Korea. It
is,
> very.
>
> - - - - -
> Timothy Sipples
> IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
> Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific
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Re: IBM Press Release: New Mainframe Customer in Korea

2009-12-21 Thread John Kim
It's amazing! 
This is a first victory for the IBM mainframe since downsizing to
distributed platform tended to be an epidemic in South Korea for more
than a decade.

There were no clear reasons to give up a mainframe for them although
they were victimizing an IBM mainframe cost driven. To be honest
political atmosphere was pervasive over the RFP selection and IBM was
loosing a battle against open system invasion because of;
  More political connections for the open system distributors - CEOs or
there lobbyists are parachuted, and linked to the government

  IBM didn't agree to have an unfair game or not getting used - may
be


I know how it went, and worked  I worked as a senior systems
programming team lead for the one of BC members (XX BANK), and selected
RFP from the political pressure.  

I hope BC card case changes the IT direction with no more political
game, may be it could be already changed.  If they already did, just
disregard a criticism from old comrade, and Congrat them!   Have no clue
I haven't been there a decade either...


   

  

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No, many of the System z Solution Edition offerings are 100% z/OS-based.
All but two -- I think that's correct -- are substantially z/OS-based.

Was there anything IBM said that might cause you to assume otherwise
about
the Solution Edition offerings? If so, maybe that's something I could
look
into. I've previously highlighted in this forum that they are
heavily/substantially z/OS-based (if that's of concern and/or
curiosity).

Although I don't speak for IBM, I will confirm the press release
details,
that BC Card has selected very nice z/OS-based infrastructure, including
(as the press release says) CICS Transaction Server. DB2 and WebSphere
Application Server are also on z/OS, as are several other software
products. I'm not even sure if there is any Linux-based content at this
point in time, though there could be. z/OS and Linux on System z
complement
each other quite well and certainly don't particularly compete with one
another.

BC Card was founded in 1982. They have never had a mainframe before --
not
anything of MVS heritage anyway. It is the largest credit card company
in
Korea.

My congratulations (and thanks) to BC Card. We look forward to many
mutually beneficial years working together.

- - - - -
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Based in Tokyo, Serving IBM Japan / Asia-Pacific
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Re: Detect the loop for batch job

2009-12-11 Thread John Kim
RMF Performance Exceptions in RMF III is pretty decent for detecting looping 
conditions.  You can find out a document how to install this product from;
 
Title: How to Generate WTO Messages from RMF Performance Exceptions

www.ibm.com/support/techdocs


You will have to update ERBR3WFX CLIST, and may want to put some exceptions in 
order to bypass certain conditions that you don't want catch. Otherwise it will 
keep you a pager slave;

In ERBR3WFX Sub-routine: Wfex_handler_2,


If  SUBSTR(wfxname,1,4) = 'ALL ' &,  
SUBSTR(wfxreasn,1,4) = 'PROC' &, 
INDEX(wfxpcaus,'looping')  ¬= 0  
Then Do  
If (SUBSTR(wfxreasn,6,4) ¬= '') &,   
Then Do  
 
msg= "RMFL00I" SUBSTR(wfxpcaus,1,35) 
"SELECT PGM(ERBCSWTO) PARM("msg")"   
 

John Kim
  

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On 12/04/2009 10:14 AM, bjbxd wrote:
> Hello List,
> We are looking for a tool to detect the loop for batch application,
> any suggestion are appreciated.
> 
> My shop is runing z/OS, application is C/C++.
> Bob.



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Re: IBM driving mainframe systems programmers into the ground

2009-11-13 Thread John Kim
This pay rate was for the high school boy working at McDonald in my province 
(Alberta, Canada) past couple of years.
Although Economic down-turn they still get a reasonable pay rate.  Is this 
position available in Zimbabwe? Otherwise no way to be Ri…di..cu.l.u.s….

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Re: Increased CPU with z10 and DB2 V9 NFM

2008-12-10 Thread John Kim
Our shop also experienced an unexpected CPU consumption increase after
DB2 V9 last year. It's more likely 15% increase via DB2 batch on the
first day of upgrade, and was getting reduced gradually with additional
memory & our DBA efforts. Finally we admitted approximate 8% increase
due to additional functions in 64 bit mode what IBM said.
But somehow we still have an unsolved fact that Ave DB2 I/O (via Insight
monitor) has been doubled from 0.0035 to 0.0074.

So the elongation of Avg I/O contributes CPU consumption increase???
It's still unknown for our shop since DB2 V9.
Anyone can answer this?


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Hi. 
Since we started to run our new z10 model 711 and at the same time
started 
DB2 V9 new function mode, we have seen a dramatic increase in CPU 
consumtion in our 4  production LPAR's. 

We also have a feeling of not getting the rated performance out of the
z10-
711

Has anyone seen or experienced this ?

Krister  

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Re: First z10 BC on West Coast

2008-12-08 Thread John Kim
It's from Cheryl's newsletter.  I am waiting for your empirical testing
or any resulted experiments to turn around my confidence-level.

 

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John Kim wrote:
> The following lessens my confidence; 
>
> 1) Why default is off, even if it's good enough to be a performance
> escalation
>   

That's SOP for new, optional function delivered for z/OS. Such options 
almost always default to NO or OFF or whatever means "same as before". 
After one or more releases, they often change to YES or ON or "the new 
way". In this case, a Health Check "nags" at you until you enable 
Hiperdispatching or shut down the check.

> 2) The majority of installations that bring in a z10 are not turning
on
>   

I did not know that. Where did you hear that? Cheryl's newsletter? 
Another source?

> 3) Large installations are very afraid to "rock the boat". Anything
> can affect Production workload is guilty until proven innocent.
> 4) Applying two dozens of APARs is somewhat risky 
>   


How do these truisms qualify as a "con" for HiperDispatch?

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Re: First z10 BC on West Coast

2008-12-08 Thread John Kim
According to '2008 No.4 Sheryl Watson's Tuning letter' the performance
benefit is expected the range of 0 to 10%. Our shop will have a 3-way
z10-BC, and three z/OS images are small enough fit in a book, and our
shop is heavily batch run will be falling at the low-end of the range.

The following lessens my confidence; 

1) Why default is off, even if it's good enough to be a performance
escalation 
2) The majority of installations that bring in a z10 are not turning on

3) Large installations are very afraid   to "rock the boat". Anything
can affect 
Production workload is guilty until proven innocent.
4) Applying two dozens of APARs is somewhat risky 


John Kim

 

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John Kim wrote:
> Ed,
>
> I wonder have you turned on 'HIPERDISPATCH=YES' and what the
performance
> looks like with this option?
>   

Funny you mention that. Yesterday, I logged on and noticed the
following:

IEAVEH071E HiperDispatch is expected to be enabled but it is disabled

So, I added HIPERDISPATCH=YES to IEAOPTxx. Once I issued T OPT=xx, the 
system(s) responded with:

N 004 MVSA008342 15:29:07.45  0090  IRA860I 
HIPERDISPATCH MODE IS NOW ACTIVE

Book affinity is obviously not important for a single-book machines. Of 
course, so-called "short" CPs can exist on most n-way machines. Ours is 
only a 4-way.

We'll try some empirical testing over the next few weeks to see if we 
notice any change with HiperDispatch enabled or disabled.

> We are also going to have a z10-BC soon, but haven't decided yet to
turn
> on. 
> Because lots of pros and cons out there. We have 3 LPARs; one
production
> and two tiny tests.
>   

What kind of cons? Due to implementation "bugs" that have been found? Or

something more fundamental?

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Re: First z10 BC on West Coast

2008-12-08 Thread John Kim
Ed,

I wonder have you turned on 'HIPERDISPATCH=YES' and what the performance
looks like with this option? 

We are also going to have a z10-BC soon, but haven't decided yet to turn
on. 
Because lots of pros and cons out there. We have 3 LPARs; one production
and two tiny tests. 

John Kim.

 
  

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We just finished installing a shiny new green-stripe z10 BC at our LA 
headquarters. Things went very smoothly. It's a slick new machine, that 
runs fast, with a "cool" new HMC user interface to which I'm quickly 
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When I arrived on-site at around 11:30 AM, I couldn't understand why 
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Gun" -- whom I've known for many years. Our tiny computer room was full 
of people; more IBMers than Phoenix employees!

Turns out, we are the first z10 BC install on the west coast. Pretty 
cool! 8-)

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Re: MIPS /day

2008-08-14 Thread John Kim
I also had a same issue when my client wanted to know, how much horse 
power was being used by his application, and no such standard tool I could 
find out there.
Instead I used the following formula;

CPUTIME / (ACTUAL INTERVAL DURATION * NUMBER OF CPS) * TOTAL MIPS  

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