Re: IBMLink, again
thanks Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My latest update to Record 79232,033,000: RESPOND ELECTRONICALLY: cp-extent Yow! I attempted to update this by adding a 40-line example in C, followed by some comments. This appears to have overstressed IBMLink: Most of my C code is missing; the remainder is garbled, and IBM's LAST TWO UPDATES ARE ENTIRELY MISSING. I guess that's OK because I really wasn't very happy with what IBM had to say. -- gil (Summarizing, they said WAD, of course. My comments, which survived, were a courteous (yes!) disagreement with WAD.) I had thought it an advantage of IBMLink WWW that I could so easily cut-and-paste samples, test cases, and log excerpts. I guess I should exercise moderation. (Unlikely?) -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- Kevin M. Keyes Director of International Operations Phoenix Software International 310-338-0400 Ext: 310 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.phoenixsoftware.com www.vikingsoft.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Wars and Allies
OK, I'll bite. Unless you define the Righteous as Communist which no reasonable person would since they are mutually contradictory it seems the lack of Righteous or the secular idology these days, (being the 20th century) have killed more people and caused more evil in the history of the world. Secular communism, not the righteous is accountable for the the millions killed and imprisoned by the secular Russian government, the millions and millions killed by Mao in China, the Japanese with the Rape of Nanking, the communist Vietnam government taking the south. Even the socialist party that turned into the Nazi's under Hitler the millions killed. I believe it you have a tally sheet on the Righteous deaths and the secular deaths, the righteous, would come in a far second. I will agree Edward Jaffe wrote: Howard Brazee wrote: These days, most war (and lots of other evil) is perpetrated by the Righteous. Has always been the case. -- Kevin M. Keyes -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVS Licenses/MVS sites
Charles Mills wrote: marketing pukes Excuse me? wondered how they found all that information A number of companies develop or once developed directories of sites by hardware type (AS/400, Univac, S/390, DEC, whatever). If you started with a mailing list for an enterprise software type magazine and had the budget to call every unique shop represented, you could do a pretty good job (especially back in the days when people actually answered their telephones). Once you have the list, it is a somewhat simpler task to maintain it. Such a list could be sold to the marketing, um, people - that revenue might justify the expense involved. I'm a techie at heart but I used to own a software company. Without sales people, there would have been no sales, and no jobs for programmers. Marketing is more than sales. Part of marketing's job is to make sure that the techies are building what the customers want - not an entirely bad thing. Charles Now you have done it Charles. I have been marketing and selling IBM mainframe software since starting up in 1980. There are some ego's here that can't handle this logic. IBM does not publish customer lists for obvious reasons. As I am sure you know, there are some good alternatives that can be purchased and each can be broken down by names, companies, sites, processors, etc., for both vert. and horizontal marketing opportunities. Harte-Hanks directly comes to mind but I get packages monthly with other companies providing the same service. You logic above however will get you some flames due to many that have never seen both ends of the gun. Goods luck. (E)JES me off-line what you are specifically looking for, I have been around a long time and have a pretty good handle on it. -- Kevin Keyes Director of International Operations Phoenix Software International 5200 West Century Blvd. Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 ext: 310 310-338-0801 fax www.phoenixsofware.com www.vikingsoft.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
