HSM to open systems
My company is in the process of sun setting our MF. We have about 40 TBytes of data under HSM control. I have been tasked with the responsibility to pull the data and put it under a Unix/Linux system as an archived data. The only time we will need to reference it (without the MF) is in case some of our users need to retrieve one of the files (not to update), just to look at. We are supposed to keep the data for up to 15 years. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Uriel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM to open systems
I think there are two options. 1) Unload all the data from HSM into the original format and then FTP to a Server. Loadlibs maybe an issus. 2) Contract with a 3rd party to be able to store your HSM data there for access only. I am unaware of any server product that could read Mainframe HSM data. SAS and ISPF (Unix or Win) can read MF data (ebcdic). I am only concerned about customer data (text) since anything else will not be needed. (we will do the usual back up just in case). Am I wondering if anybody had to face this situation and I would like to learn how they went about it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM to open systems
Hi Miklos. Interesting situation with the HSM exits. Can you view the HSM ML2 files under USS using vi or more? Is the data compressed under the USS file system? I suspect I could use something like FTP (or similar products) to copy to a Linux on Intel from the HSM exit. Is that possible? Regards, Uriel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Miklos Szigetvari [miklos.szigetv...@isis-papyrus.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM to open systems Hi Not the same as your case, but we have here HSM exits, to use HFS (Unix) dataset in the place of ML2 So with this exit we migrate/recall everything from/ to HFS (Unix) . On 4/11/2012 3:41 PM, Uriel Carrasquilla wrote: My company is in the process of sun setting our MF. We have about 40 TBytes of data under HSM control. I have been tasked with the responsibility to pull the data and put it under a Unix/Linux system as an archived data. The only time we will need to reference it (without the MF) is in case some of our users need to retrieve one of the files (not to update), just to look at. We are supposed to keep the data for up to 15 years. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Uriel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM to open systems
Hi Lisette. In response to your questions: 1) Time frame to move data to server? I have from now until early 2014. 2) Efforts involved? Do you have a large staff, small staff? Do you have time to write exits for HSM and redirect the HSM data? Once I have an idea of the size, then we will see how much we can do ourselves and how much help we will need. 3) Is the 40 TB all of the data or is the information you need to place on the server a smaller number? My HSM data is about 40 TB (between disk and tape). 4) Will you have a dedicated server for your mainframe storage? Yes, a Linux server. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM to open systems
Kirk, thank you for the information. I printed the Co:Z user guide and I think it has a lot of the pieces of what I need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SNA future
It is not only SNA I worry about, it is the entire MVS/zOS world. In two years my company will have moved the last production application out of our Mainframe. This is a company that has been in businesss for 80+ years with a MF since they first became commercially available. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of John Gilmore [johnwgilmore0...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 4:20 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SNA future SNA has certainly been eclipsed, often appropriately, by TCP/IP. I am not certain, however, that SNA is even moribund; and it would certainly be premature to prepare the funeral baked meats just yet. In the interval conflicts with the established uses of 'SNA' as the stock symbol of Snap-On, Inc. and as an acronym for the Student Nurses Association have not been problematic. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
Let's say I have a tape with multiple datasets inside. Some datasets may be catalogued, some may not. I can understand the once not catalogued when they expire they no longer hold the tape from going to the scratch pool. But what about those cases when the catalogued datasets hit their expiration date? what happens? am I also correct in assuming that the entire tape with all the stacked datasets is being held until the last dataset in it expires? Please share your thoughts. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
Forgot to mention, yes, I am using CA-1. I ran a GENER to copy to output file on our VTL (UNIT=V3590) with a LABEL=EXPDT=99000 with a DISP to CATLG if successful. It ran OK and put the dataset (no stacking) into VOL=SER=682436. Then, via ISPF TMS, I checked the volume and it shows the expiration date with the CATALOG description. Then, I went to ISPF 3.2 and uncatalogued the dataset. TMS still has the same information with the expiration date set to CATALOG. I was expecting to see SCRATCH instead. is this normal? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Jonathan Goossen [jonathan.goos...@assurant.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates The answer likely varies by the TMS in use. CA-1 will keep the tape until every dataset on it is expired. This can be confusing as the volume record is also the first file on the tape. CA-1 will adjust its expiration to be equal the highest on the tape. If you manually expire the first file (volume record) then the entire tape will scratch regardless of the expiration of the rest of the files. That is one reason that I am very carful about changing the expiration of volume records. In CA-1 there is an expiration called CATALOG. It will expire the file when it is no longer cataloged. If a cataloged tape file has a Julian expiration, then uncataloging the file will not affect expiration. But scratching the tape will uncatalog the file. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support Line: 651-361- For help with communication and leadership skills checkout Woodwinds Toastmasters IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2012 08:51:19 AM: From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 03/29/2012 08:52 AM Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Let's say I have a tape with multiple datasets inside. Some datasets may be catalogued, some may not. I can understand the once not catalogued when they expire they no longer hold the tape from going to the scratch pool. But what about those cases when the catalogued datasets hit their expiration date? what happens? am I also correct in assuming that the entire tape with all the stacked datasets is being held until the last dataset in it expires? Please share your thoughts. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates
OK, I found out that we run the clean and scratch right after mid-night. Thank you. I also found out how to use the EXPDT by using YYY/J-DAY. Thank you all for your response. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates The status does not change until you run a CA-1 maintenance job. It is not real time. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates Forgot to mention, yes, I am using CA-1. I ran a GENER to copy to output file on our VTL (UNIT=V3590) with a LABEL=EXPDT=99000 with a DISP to CATLG if successful. It ran OK and put the dataset (no stacking) into VOL=SER=682436. Then, via ISPF TMS, I checked the volume and it shows the expiration date with the CATALOG description. Then, I went to ISPF 3.2 and uncatalogued the dataset. TMS still has the same information with the expiration date set to CATALOG. I was expecting to see SCRATCH instead. is this normal? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Jonathan Goossen [jonathan.goos...@assurant.com] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 10:23 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates The answer likely varies by the TMS in use. CA-1 will keep the tape until every dataset on it is expired. This can be confusing as the volume record is also the first file on the tape. CA-1 will adjust its expiration to be equal the highest on the tape. If you manually expire the first file (volume record) then the entire tape will scratch regardless of the expiration of the rest of the files. That is one reason that I am very carful about changing the expiration of volume records. In CA-1 there is an expiration called CATALOG. It will expire the file when it is no longer cataloged. If a cataloged tape file has a Julian expiration, then uncataloging the file will not affect expiration. But scratching the tape will uncatalog the file. Thank you and have a Terrific day! Jonathan Goossen, DTM ACT Mainframe Storage Group Personal: 651-361-4541 Department Support Line: 651-361- For help with communication and leadership skills checkout Woodwinds Toastmasters IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 03/29/2012 08:51:19 AM: From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Date: 03/29/2012 08:52 AM Subject: Re: catalogued datasets in tapes and expiration dates Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Let's say I have a tape with multiple datasets inside. Some datasets may be catalogued, some may not. I can understand the once not catalogued when they expire they no longer hold the tape from going to the scratch pool. But what about those cases when the catalogued datasets hit their expiration date? what happens? am I also correct in assuming that the entire tape with all the stacked datasets is being held until the last dataset in it expires? Please share your thoughts. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN This e-mail message and all attachments transmitted with it may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reading, dissemination, distribution, copying, forwarding or other use of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this message and all copies and backups thereof. Thank you
Re: megabytes per second
May be there is a reason as to why you are gettign so many different answers. In my case, the question I normally get from management is: how much is it going to cost us to maintain a copy our application XXX data at our DR location? I change this into a problem of money and budgets. I figured that the biggest variable cost is the network and the disk space. The network also adds other traffic overheads depending on the protocols and recovery but it is highly unlikely that I will get a black and white estimate. The good news about the network is that they sell bandwidth in big jumps so I estimated my worse case scenario by running so tests, made some assumptions (including my data compression), and added the next level of bandwidth (ended up with an OC-12). I gave myself lots of head room because I found that sometimes the equipment doing the compression can fail. The amount of disk was easy, whatever I had needed to be on the other side. In other words, may be the problem that you are trying to solve needs to be revisited. MB/sec is a moving target that can produce as many answers depending on the assumptions you make and who you ask. Regards, Uriel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Bill Fairchild [bfairch...@rocketsoftware.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 10:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: megabytes per second Everyone is missing the point. Let me rephrase. What do most users and managers think when they hear or use the phrase copy data at xxx number of MB/sec.? Do they think that means the theoretically fastest possible rate at which data can be transferred under ideal conditions, or the actual rate at which that user's data can be transferred as that data exists at the instant when the copying is done? Only scenario to consider: an unsophisticated user runs a tool that tells him his data center's mission-critical, home-grown access method file Y has 10,000 MB of data in it. File Y, however, has been allocated to hold 20,000 MB of data. Maybe their home-grown access method does not use DS1LSTAR properly. Maybe DS1LSTAR is maintained but a very inefficient block size is being used. Perhaps the tool reads every track and adds up the block size of all blocks in it. Perhaps the tool looks at the RECFM, BLKSIZE, and device type and computes the size of the contents. The point here is that there is really only 10,000 MB of user data stored in this file that could theoretically hold twice as much data. The backup process has been designed to copy every track in the file. Not knowing that each track in his file is only 50% full of data (inter-record gaps, inefficient block size, not enough data yet in the file to fill up each track completely, whatever), he runs a copy pro! duct that can copy 100MB/sec. and finds that it takes 200 seconds to copy his 10,000 MB of data stored in a 20,000 MB file. He measures the elapsed time by looking at the start and end timestamp in his JES job log as any unsophisticated user would. He wants to know why he is only getting 50MB/sec. of copy speed from his copy process that claims it can copy 100MB/sec from DASD to tape. The worst case scenario is that the file is only allocated and has never been loaded with data. In this case, the actual data transfer rate should be 0 MB/secs., but it would still take 200 seconds to copy the file to tape. Bill Fairchild -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Hawkins Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:59 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: megabytes per second Bill, It can also depend on where you are measuring the throughput: Back end of the disk array - there is additional data to transfer due to the encapsulation of EBCDIV within SCSI FBA blocks FICON - It's a 10 bit byte, so divide the data rate by 8 bits. A 1Gb channel is 1000MB/10=100 GB (yes no little i) Tape Drive - whatever you get after ICRC Virtual Tape Drive - whatever you get after ICRC and De duplication This could be a fun topic. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Bill Fairchild Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 3:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: [IBM-MAIN] megabytes per second New thread. What exactly does MB/second mean when referring to how much data can be copied from a DASD to a tape? To be more precise, I am not interested in big MB vs. little mib, just the philosophy. Suppose I have a huge file on a 3390 virtual thing and I can copy whole tracks to tape at the rate of 100 MB/sec. Assume the tracks hold 50,000 bytes instead of 56,664 to make the math easier. Does 100 MB/sec. mean that I am copying 2,000 tracks per second? Maybe. What if there is nothing written on the tracks, but I don't know that until I read
Re: Set Clock Command
At my company we use GMT and offset from it for the time on our zOS system. We also use MXG/SAS. I was not aware that TOD was a requirement for SAS. Might be an MXG thing but our times are properly reported. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Set Clock Command Most weird. We have the TOD clock set to GMT (more or less), and the TIMEZONE set to W.06 (US Central). The timestamps in the SMF records at our shop are in LOCAL time (1/100 seconds since local midnight). Back when we had SAS, we used these times directly. We did not do any offset manipulation on them at all. If any of the records have STCKE values, then those would need to be manipulated. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 9:10 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Set Clock Command On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:55:04 -0600, Mark Hammack wrote: At my last position (major corporation), I tried to get them to go to GMT with setting an offset. The biggest push back I got was from our tuning expert because he would have to put an adjustment into the SMF data manipulator (based on SAS). I never bought the argument, but then again, I wasn't too familiar with SMF data so wasn't prepared to argue. Or, you could just let the SMF manipulator produce its reports showing GMT. It's better than transgressing IBM's recommendations for setting the TOD clock. I've seen lots of sympathy in this forum for abandoning local time altogether. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
OK, mission accomplished. The Journal is now larger. Thank you all for your participation and help, particularly Walter. Once the HSM re-start was disabled in OPS/MVS, it all worked as advertised. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
I hope you were now able to enlarge your hsm journal, which was your goal. I am coming to work this SAT to try again. This time I will be showing up in person so I can see what is going on with all the LPAR's. We found the OPS/MVS rule and it is being disabled. They are also checking in all the LPARs to make sure the rule is disabled in all of them. I'll let you know how it goes. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
I don't think so. I'm not aware of any hsm parameter which would restart the address space once it is shutdown. As Dave already mentioned, ask your automation folks. It is possible your automation product triggers ARC0002I on the main LPAR, of hsm is defined under ARM We are taking a closer look at OPS/MVS. When we shutdown HSM in all of our LPARs without setting them in the EMERGENCY mode, we never had any problems with HSM re-starting. What do you mean when you say hsm is defined under ARM? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
Have a look at RESTART keyword in your procedure. I took a look at the HSM PROC and EMERG=NO but no signs of RESTART. I also checked out SYS.PARMLIB(ARCCMDSx) and could not find any traces of a RESTART keyword. When I look at the LOG, I can see that OPS/MVS is involved and might be the culprit: F DFSMSHSM,STOP ARC0016I DFSMSHSM SHUTDOWN HAS BEEN REQUESTED OPS3092H OI STATESET CPU1TBL.DFSMSHSM CURRENT(DOWN) ARC0002I DFSMSHSM SHUTDOWN HAS COMPLETED OPS3092H OPS3730I CPU1TBL.DFSMSHSM RESOURCE: CURRENT=DOWN DESIRED=UP MODE=ACTIVE PMD=ACTIVE RMD=ACTIVE AMD=ACTIVE OPS7902H STATEMAN ACTION FOR CPU1TBL.DFSMSHSM: DOWN_UP MVSCMD=START DFSMSHSM OPS1181H OPSMAIN (*Local*) MVS N/A OPSYSTZS START DFSMSHSM START DFSMSHSM OPS3092H READY $HASP100 DFSMSHSM ON STCINRDR -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
yes, every hsm instance sharing the journal dataset must be put in emergency mode (1), and also be stopped (3). Walter Marguccio Walter, very kind of you. I will go it this weekend before we IPL with the new time here in the US. We ran into problems. We put HSM in emergency in 3 LPARS (all of them sharing HSM). We ran the BACKVOL command in the main LPAR. Then, we stopped HSM in all 3 LPARS. But, for some reason, in the main LPAR, HSM would restart automatically everytime we stopped it. So I could not drop the existing Journal to switch to a bigger one. The procedure we followed: F DFSMSHSM, SETSYS EMERGENCY (in all 3 LPARS) F DFSMSHSM, BACKVOL CONTROLDATASETS (in main LPAR) F DFSMSHSM, STOP (in al 3 LPARS) But then we noticed that in the main LPAR, DFSMSHSM would just start by itself. I could not switch to a bigger Journal file so we issued the S DFSMSHSM command in the remaining 2 LPARS. Why is DFSMSHSM re-starting by itself? We successfully took DFSMSHSM down in the main LPAR earlier that day and it would stay down. Is the emergency request creating a situation where at least one of the LPARs must be running HSM? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
yes, every hsm instance sharing the journal dataset must be put in emergency mode (1), and also be stopped (3). Walter Marguccio Walter, very kind of you. I will go it this weekend before we IPL with the new time here in the US. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
I would do what the hsm Storage Admin Guide suggest under moving the Journal : 1. Put DFSMShsm in emergency mode. SETSYS EMERGENCY 2. Issue the CONTROLDATASETS parameter of the BACKVOL command to back up the control and journal data sets.BACKVOL CONTROLDATASETS 3. Stop DFSMShsm. F DFSMSHSM,STOP 4. Delete the old journal data set 5. Allocate a new journal data set on a different DASD device. 6. Start DFSMShsm. S DFSMSHSM Obviously, I'd allocate a much bigger journal at step 5. Walter Marguccio Walter, thank you for your response. I have one more question. When you put DFSMShsm in emergency mode, do you do so for every zOS sharing the same DFSMShsm? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Maintenance at two in the afternoon? On a Friday?
An obvious corollary is that system maintenance should be done when the local time is 0300 everywhere. Not a bad idea unless you happen to be the one doing the maintenance half awake. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
Walter, thank you so much for your help. Regards, Uriel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Walter Marguccio [walter_marguc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 4:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full If I was to increase the size of the HSM1.JRNL dataset, what would be the best practice? I would do what the hsm Storage Admin Guide suggest under moving the Journal : 1. Put DFSMShsm in emergency mode. SETSYS EMERGENCY 2. Issue the CONTROLDATASETS parameter of the BACKVOL command to back up the control and journal data sets.BACKVOL CONTROLDATASETS 3. Stop DFSMShsm. F DFSMSHSM,STOP 4. Delete the old journal data set 5. Allocate a new journal data set on a different DASD device. 6. Start DFSMShsm. S DFSMSHSM Obviously, I'd allocate a much bigger journal at step 5. HTH Walter Marguccio z/OS Systems Programmer BELENUS LOB Informatic GmbH Munich - Germany -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
I keep on getting messages that the Journal dataset is 80% (which I confirmed under ISPF 3.2). My plan is to shutdown HSM, rename the existing file, create a new one with the same characteristics, copy the renamed file, and bring up HSM. Is my thinking appropriate? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
Why I don't get is that the automatic jobs are running but the Journal file remains with the same amount of disk space allocated after execution. We also have a batch job that compresses the HSM files (backup/delete/create/reload) but the Journal is not in the list. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] [obrie...@mail.nih.gov] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:00 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full Correction, that should be Backvol cds -Original Message- From: O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:45 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full No, it is not correct. Issue a Backup cds command. That will null the Journal as well as give you a set of CDS Backups. -Original Message- From: Uriel Carrasquilla [mailto:uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:39 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full I keep on getting messages that the Journal dataset is 80% (which I confirmed under ISPF 3.2). My plan is to shutdown HSM, rename the existing file, create a new one with the same characteristics, copy the renamed file, and bring up HSM. Is my thinking appropriate? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
I made the wrong comment. the F DFSMSHSM,BACKVOL CDS command is running on a schedule. When it runs, last time was yesterday, the HSM1.JRNL dataset does get reset to empty. In my case, it is allocated with 150 CYLS and since yesterday it has used up 22 CYLS. The problem is that I am getting hit with messages that it is 80% full quite often. So my thinking is that I either run the BACKVOL command more often or increase the size of the HSM1.JRNL dataset. If I was to increase the size of the HSM1.JRNL dataset, what would be the best practice? Run the BACKVOL CDS command, take down DFSMSHSM, increase the size of the JRNL file size (after deleting and re-allocating) or is it something else? Thanks. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:48 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full I think the OP was wonder how to expand the size of the journal so that it would not fill up as quickly. Not how to automate doing the backvol command or how to do the backvol cds command. He knows how, he just wants to do it less often. At least, that's how I read his intent. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 11:33 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full Uriel, The real question you should be looking for is to why the automatic jobs that should be running are not. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full
Ed, It is ignorance on my part. By John and the group asking me the question, I learned what is going on. Regards, Uriel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Ed Gould [ps2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:29 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: HSM Journal dataset is almost full John, Possibly, but I guess don#39;t do Vulcan mind meds as well as you do:) Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment
I found CEE.SCEELKED with the SETENV member in the PDS. I am correct in thinking that this library should be placed in the link editing step after compiling with the //SYSLIB DD statement? Or should it be placed on the LINKLIST? Thank you. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment SCEELKED contains SETENV and PUTENV. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment I have a developer that is not being able to make a call to SETENV from within Cobol (Cobol snippet: call 'setenv' using envname,...). I found that the C routines in the LE run time environment must be available. Does anybody know what I need to check in the linklist/lpa to make sure that Cobol finds the needed routines from the C run time libraries? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment
I found CEE.SCEELKED in SYS1.PARMLIB(LPALST00) and the library does contain a SETENV member. So I don't know why the COBOL program is saying that it cannot find the module. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Scott Ford [scott_j_f...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment Uriel: We use it all the time for LE Cobol, etc and we had to do nothing to place it in the LINKLIST. IBM packaged it in the correct libraries and LPA and/or Linklist member of IEASYSxx of the SYS1.PARMLIB. Could you have a situation where your IEASYSXX member is incorrect ? Just a thought. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com From: Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:04 AM Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment I found CEE.SCEELKED with the SETENV member in the PDS. I am correct in thinking that this library should be placed in the link editing step after compiling with the //SYSLIB DD statement? Or should it be placed on the LINKLIST? Thank you. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment SCEELKED contains SETENV and PUTENV. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment I have a developer that is not being able to make a call to SETENV from within Cobol (Cobol snippet: call 'setenv' using envname,...). I found that the C routines in the LE run time environment must be available. Does anybody know what I need to check in the linklist/lpa to make sure that Cobol finds the needed routines from the C run time libraries? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment
We are current with zOS 11. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Scott Ford [scott_j_f...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 1:16 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment Ed, I havent had that problem and we use LE Cobol a lot since 3.1. There were compatiblity issues on the older z/OS releases. I ran intoone of those all ready, happened to be on an older version that didnt support some of the LE calls. Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com From: Ed Gould ps2...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 12:36 PM Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment John, That is one solution. However there is a potential to break a lot of working code. Compatibility has never been one of LE's strong points. Ed -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment
Do you still have to put a //SYSLMOD DD in the LKED step (link editing) if you already have in in the SYS1.PARMLIB(LPALST00)? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Scott Ford [scott_j_f...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:08 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment Yep, me too John, I had to add it to my SYSLMOD stmts in the LKED...Once I did that no problem Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com From: McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:29 AM Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment If you're going to CALL it from COBOL, using the DYNAM compiler option, then the library needs to be available to the job during execution. That means in the LNKLST or STEPLIB/JOBLIB DD statement. Another possibility is to COPY the SETENV and PUTENV routines into a library which is already on the LNKLST. Personally, I'd put SCEELKED on the LNKLST in this case. Or compile the routine NODYNAM so that they are statically linked into the program object/load module. John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment I found CEE.SCEELKED with the SETENV member in the PDS. I am correct in thinking that this library should be placed in the link editing step after compiling with the //SYSLIB DD statement? Or should it be placed on the LINKLIST? Thank you. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of McKown, John [john.mck...@healthmarkets.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 5:33 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment SCEELKED contains SETENV and PUTENV. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Uriel Carrasquilla Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 3:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment I have a developer that is not being able to make a call to SETENV from within Cobol (Cobol snippet: call 'setenv' using envname,...). I found that the C routines in the LE run time environment must be available. Does anybody know what I need to check in the linklist/lpa to make sure that Cobol finds the needed routines from the C run time libraries? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive
Cobol dynamic file allocation using SETENV and C run time environment
I have a developer that is not being able to make a call to SETENV from within Cobol (Cobol snippet: call 'setenv' using envname,...). I found that the C routines in the LE run time environment must be available. Does anybody know what I need to check in the linklist/lpa to make sure that Cobol finds the needed routines from the C run time libraries? Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
Going to SAF from ISFPARMS in SDSF is not too bad. Go to manual z/OS V1R10.0 SDSF Operation and Customization SA22-7670-11 There is a section called Converting ISFPARMS to SAF security This section should help you go through the process of 1) Determining if you have SAF instead of ISFPARMS for security 2) How to convert over. Hope this helps Thank you. This will help. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
The ISF032I RC4 message indicates the MCS console is already activate when the REXX is run .. This works. I must have been in SDSF. I ran the REXX interactively after making sure I had no SDSF session and it works. Your REXX can also set the ISFCONS variable to specify a unique console name that the process uses. I am going to try this. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Mark Zelden [m...@mzelden.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 9:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 05:50:34 +, Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote: The biggest problem I have found with batch is that many shops have SDSF security set up (from the default/sample parms) based on TSO authorities (JCL, OPER, ACCT) and TSOAUTH is automatically set to JCL for a batch SDSF job (regardless of what authorities the USERID actually has). This is the documented behavior. Mark, let me thank you for your help. My TSOBATCH REXX is now working as expected. The problem was the CONSOLE being used with ISPF SDSF interactively while running the REXX at the same time. I forced the REXX to use a different console (instead of the USERID default that gets assigned). The PARMLIB(ISFPRMxx) member was set up by my predecesor and it did have AUTH(ALL) for my user group. When reading your remarks, I don't understand how authorization for SDSF can be set up any other way. Could you please elaborate? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
When you run in batch, you may not fall into the group you think you are. If your parms are not based on IUID (userid) and are based on TSO authorities like JCL, OPER and ACCT (as the default / sample parms are), then when you run in batch the only authority you get is JCL. This puts you into a group that is typically an end user / application programmer group that probably does not have access to CONSOLE or jobs/output that aren't associated with the userid of the submitter. I became a victim of the situation you described. I set up a job to be submitted by our scheduler (UC4) and I thought the userid would have the same access as myself to the console. Well, that was not the case. As you described, the TSO-Batch failed on insufficient authority. I am probably using TSO authorities as you described. How do you switch parameters so they are based on IUID (userid)? I am trying to have my job vary unit,online, do some DF/DSS work, and then vary unit,offline. In the past this work was done by OPS/MVS by having the job create dummy messages (via IEFBR14) but the problem is that I have no way of knowing if the devices did go on-line before DF/DSS is invoked. When I run the solution I put in place under my userid that has AUTH(ALL), everything works really well. So I am kind of convinced that this is the route to follow. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
Your shop is probably using SAF controls rather than SDSF controls. I actually think it is under SDSF control but how to I verify? and how do you switch to SAF controls? What happens if you try executing an MVS command under CONSOLE? It is actually working fine when I submit TSO-BATCH job from TSO/ISPF session. The problem I am having is when my scheduler submits the job with another USER-ID. I will check tomorrow if the problem is that this other userid does not have AUTH(ALL). But it seems to me from what Mark described that I should be switching to SAF controls (in my case I have ACF2). But I don't know much about ACF2 to know where I would need to go to re-implement what I currently have in my PARMLIB member. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
REXX fails accessing SDSF console
/* REXX */ mycmd.0 = 1 mycmd.1 = 'd a,l' ADDRESS SDSF ISFSLASH (MYCMD.) (WAIT) ... IF DATATYPE(ISFULOG.0) = NUM THEN DO IX=1 TO ISFULOG.0 SAY ISFULOG.IX IS: ISFULOG.IX END PRODUCES; ISFULOG.1 IS: CPU1 2011284 15:38:31.00 ISF032I CONSOLE SSUJC ACTIVATE FAILED, RETURN CODE 0004, REASON CODE I checked parmlib(isfprm00) and it does have AUTH(ALL) for the TSO userid I am using to execute the REXX. I suspect the problem is with ACF2 but my security team does not have a clue. They gave me CONSOLE access but that does not fixed the problem. (Except that now I can interactively issue CONSOLE commands from TSO). Anybody with ACF2 knowledge willing to share? I did open a ticket with CA. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
Hi Mark. Does your SDSF console work when you use it via TSO and / or ISPF SDSF? Yes, it does work. Also, I can see that the MVS command entered via REXX is being executed when I look at the SDSF log. Are you already using a console with that name via TSO/ISPF when you execute the exec? I have tried to execute the REXX exec from option 6 and via batch using TSO batch. This is an excellent point. The console name is the same as my userid and it is possible I am using SDSF at the same time. I'll check tomorrow when I am back at work. Is it possible to change the console name in the REXX? I tried changing it with activate console console(mytest) but for some reason the REXX puts me in interactive mode under console (which works when I issue a d a,l). Are you running this exec in batch of interactively? I have tried both way with the same message in both cases. IF batch, search the archives for past posts of mine regarding security and SDSF in batch and consult the SDSF user guide. I will search for your postings. I have also checked the SDSF User Guide. The examples in the User Guide and mine are identical (that is where I picked up the original REXX. I have also spent a considerable number of hours in Google. In PARMLIB, is the AUTH parameter the only one I need to be concerned with? It is AUTH(ALL) for my TSO$xx group right now. But I was wondering if there was another parameter I should verify. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: REXX fails accessing SDSF console
XX=ISFCALLS('ON')
Yes, this command is being issue ahead of any REXX statement and the ('OFF') at
the end.
If it helps, I can post the entire REXX.
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Re: Postion Available Washington DC
Hi Jim. I am more of the MVS person than the VTAM person. In fact, my VTAM abilities are very limited. Sorry but I won't be able to help you. For the last 10 years, I have also spent more time on the Capacity Planning side than the Systems Programming side. Good luck! Uriel From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Jim Marshall [jim.marsh...@opm.gov] Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:53 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Postion Available Washington DC I currently have a Contractor position open on the staff here, here are the particulars 1. Fifteen year of demonstrated experience as a VTAM systems programmer, at least ten years of which must be within a MVS/ESA operating system or higher with subsystems very similar to 2. Three years of recent experience as a senior VTAM systems programmer providing expertise in z/OS or OS/390 Communications Server. 3. Three years of recent demonstrated experience implementing zSeries technologies similar in scope to the one described in this solicitation. 4. Three years of recent demonstrated experience in implementing Communications Server in a z/OS Parallel Sysplex environment. 5. Demonstrated experience in configuring IBM Open Systems Adapter. 6. Demonstrated experience in configuring IBM 8265 and CISCO Switches. 7. Demonstrated experience in presenting technical communications information. 8. Recent demonstrated experience performing z/OS software conversions, as well as release level upgrades. 9. Recent experience in leading large-scale, technically complex systems software/integration projects involving systems similar to one cited in this solicitation. 10. Recent demonstrated experience in performing problem determination and resolution. 11. Recent demonstrated experience in performing problem determination using VTAM and IP Trace facilities. 12. Recent demonstrated experience in implementing and testing a disaster recovery plan. The job is with Compuware Services. I am the COTR of the contract and will be glad to forward your inquiry over to the company for review. If you are hesitant about coming to the Washington DC area, give me a call and I can chat about the living expenses, entertainment, and general over all conditions. I came to DC back in 1975 as an Air Force Staff Sergeant (single) and lived well. I came back in the 1980s as an officer and lived quite well. Am now a gov't civilian and making it fine. I have enticed a number of folks over the years from out in the hinderland to come here and they are still around. The work is challenging and interesting with a plan to go to GDPS Active-Active Sysplex at 69km. IBM zEnterprise Servers are coming next year and just upgraded DASD Tape. Just moving into DB2 for z/OS Data Sharing and converting SuSe to RedHat Linux on z. If someone wants to broaden their horizons and can do what is considered your job, you can cross over into other areas. You will need the ability to get a SSBI (Single Scope Background Investigation) Full Adjudicated Background Investigation Let me know if you are interested. jim -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MVS NFS Translation Tables
Has anybody experienced problems with ASCII to EBCDIC translations from MVS NFS mount points? I am getting x'00' in my files that were dropped by Unix clients into the MVS managed Mount Point. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa
I could be mistaken but that is not how the H1B visa process normally works. IBM must post the job to see what kind of response they get in a media often used by other companies to find similar employees. The salary must match a median for the position as established by referencing similar jobs. I have been through the process as an employer and it is not as trivial as it sounds. Yes, the process can be worked out, probably often done by some employers but I would be surprised IBM would go down the wrong path. Would it be possible that the position is a $40k job and not the equivalent of other System Programmer jobs? What about the location, or the amount of experience? Or are we just venting because the value of our skills have dropped in value in today's economy? I don't know what it would be to be out of work in today's economy but I was in that boat in 1999 and again in 2001. It was not fun and I would have taken a job for $40k if that would have meant not walking out of my mortgage. Would I take a $40k job now in my current situation? Of course not but I would not blame another person for doing it to bridge themselves into a better job later on when the job market improves. It is supply and demand. From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Larry Macioce [mace1...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:04 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa I am coming in late to this discussion but will include my $0.02, so remember you get what you pay for. IBM has us over a barrel, if no one applies then IBM (and others) can go to the government and say look we told you so there is a short of qualified people in the US, up the H1B numbers. Once that occurs we are toast as the H1Bs will work for peanuts. OR System Programmers go to work for IBM (and others) at a sub-par rate and IBM (and others) get what they want, qualified help and a cheap price. You could take the job and prolong it. Mace -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa
Essentially the only thing to do there is to drink. The good news is that with such low wages there is no risk of getting addicted to alcohol. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa
What kind of money are you talking about? is it full time, on-site work? From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] on behalf of Bobbie Justice [golds...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa Yes, a big no thank you to that one. I got a call from them when I was unemployed for several months, and after they told me the salary they were offering, I made a very quick decision to remain unemployed. I'll starve to death before I do systems programming work for the money they were offering. Bobbie Jo Justice -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side
Have you tried using FBS vs. FB ? This is for fixed block standard and recognizes the last block can be shorter and not a full block. FB likewise permits the last block to be shorter. Surely FB permits *any* block to be short. It's FBS that requires that all but the last be full size. We are actually using Variable blocks. I think the argument of the cache is valid but not after 24 hours. Also, I noticed that the files in the NFS mount point when I am looking at them under TSO/ISPF are quite often locked (file in use). I end up having to put a B for browse under 3.4 and keep on hitting enter until I can get into the file. The file is not supposed to be in use on the Unix side so I don't know why I get the locks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
MVSNFS shows a different file under the Unix side compared to the MVS side
we have a an NFS mount point on a Sun Solaris that is being serviced by MVS (zOS 1.11) NFS server. when my customer dropped a file on the Sun's side NFS mount point, it caused an I/O error. When I compared what I see on the Sun side under the mount point to what I see under TSO/ISPF, I can see that 1,131 records failed to get across out of about 77k records. Yet, the original file that was dropped into the NFS mount point are identical. In other words, when I do a diff between the original file and the one in the MVS Mount Point on the Unix side, they are identical. When I download the MVS file and do a diff with what is supposed to be an identical copy in the Unix Mount point, they are different. May be someone can enlight me with an explanation as to why the the Unix side shows an identical copy of the original that was dropped in the mount point but in the MVS side I see records in errors. Regards, Uriel -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
