Re: 1401 and MUSIC

[Bruce Black]

Gee, I remember way way back when ... in my yuth we
had a 1401 and some one places a small portable radio
next to the CPU and there was a distict music pattern
you could hear on the radio.
Back about 1966, Carnegie-Mellon Univ had an RCA RACE mass storage unit, 
with a computer acting as a storage control unit to interface to a 
Bendix/CDC G-21 processor.  I think it was an RCA computer (model number 
escapes me) but I could be wrong.  The programmer set it up to play 
"Flight of the Bumblebee" in its entirety, over a nearby radio.


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Re: 1401 and MUSIC

[Howard Rifkind]

Gee, I remember way way back when ... in my yuth we
had a 1401 and some one places a small portable radio
next to the CPU and there was a distict music pattern
you could hear on the radio.  Some has written some
autocoder progarm which played the same music over and
over again...The first music on a cpu...way back
before PC's.

Yes, I wrote code for 7070-7090 and the 1400 series
machines...those were really great days.

--- Rick Fochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
--
> Printers were fun sometimes. I once saw an IBM
> engineer who'd been told 
> by his boss to "clean the 1043s". I came upon the
> scene just after the 
> event, but it was obvious he dodn't know what he was
> doing. The usual 
> way was to take the ribbon off, put cleaning paper
> in the tractors 
> (funny stuff with a coating of tiny stiff nylon
> bristles), close the 
> gate and run a test pattern while manually advancing
> the cleaning paper. 
> The little bristles would prod out the slugs and
> carry off the old ink.
> 
> Not this guy. He opened the gate, took the ribbon
> off. sprayed (a lot of 
> - must have been) tape cleaner on the train and
> worked the gate 
> interlock with his thumb to power up the train. I
> heard the scream. He 
> was standing there, completely black across the
> waist, shading to grey 
> for inches above and below. The train had siezed and
> the train motor 
> overload had tripped.
> 
> It was a custom train, too.
>
---
> Did that myself once, in my early days. It wasn't a
> custom train, just a 
> standard QN; but we ended up printing everything on
> a TN train for 
> several weeks while we waited for train repairs.
> Came out of my 
> paycheck. :-(
> 
> And I don't believe there's ANYTHING to take that
> ink out of a white shirt!
> 
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Re: 1401 and MUSIC

[Rick Fochtman]

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Printers were fun sometimes. I once saw an IBM engineer who'd been told 
by his boss to "clean the 1043s". I came upon the scene just after the 
event, but it was obvious he dodn't know what he was doing. The usual 
way was to take the ribbon off, put cleaning paper in the tractors 
(funny stuff with a coating of tiny stiff nylon bristles), close the 
gate and run a test pattern while manually advancing the cleaning paper. 
The little bristles would prod out the slugs and carry off the old ink.


Not this guy. He opened the gate, took the ribbon off. sprayed (a lot of 
- must have been) tape cleaner on the train and worked the gate 
interlock with his thumb to power up the train. I heard the scream. He 
was standing there, completely black across the waist, shading to grey 
for inches above and below. The train had siezed and the train motor 
overload had tripped.


It was a custom train, too.
---
Did that myself once, in my early days. It wasn't a custom train, just a 
standard QN; but we ended up printing everything on a TN train for 
several weeks while we waited for train repairs. Came out of my 
paycheck. :-(


And I don't believe there's ANYTHING to take that ink out of a white shirt!

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1401 and MUSIC

[Phil Payne]

> Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO?

Another MUSIC.

Machine Utilization Statistics and Information Collection.  Wrote to SYS1.ACCTA 
and SYS1.ACCTB
alternately.  I'm not sure what data it collected - it was just a flaming 
nuisance to me.  I
think it only collected at end of step, but it did it while the initiator was 
enqueued on Q4
and Q5, so if the operator didn't spot the "Reply 'U'" message it took a while 
to work out why
a couple of dozen tapes had stopped going round.

And further on printers - I'd like a 1443 "flying broomstick".  We had a 2821 
go down one day
and take two 1403N1s with it, so we printed a staff salaries three-part NCR 
paper report on
the 1443.  The print clarity was stunning, but it was dog-slow and for boxes 
took all night.

The next day we had a request to use that printer for all future reports ...

Zing zing zing zing zing zing zing zing zing for four freakin' hours.

Printers were fun sometimes.  I once saw an IBM engineer who'd been told by his 
boss to "clean
the 1043s".  I came upon the scene just after the event, but it was obvious he 
dodn't know
what he was doing.  The usual way was to take the ribbon off, put cleaning 
paper in the
tractors (funny stuff with a coating of tiny stiff nylon bristles), close the 
gate and run a
test pattern while manually advancing the cleaning paper. The little bristles 
would prod out
the slugs and carry off the old ink.

Not this guy.  He opened the gate, took the ribbon off. sprayed (a lot of - 
must have been)
tape cleaner on the train and worked the gate interlock with his thumb to power 
up the train.
I heard the scream.  He was standing there, completely black across the waist, 
shading to grey
for inches above and below.  The train had siezed and the train motor overload 
had tripped.
It was a custom train, too.

The 1403 had four tractors and the 3211 only three.  The reason was Keith, who 
one day left
the lower right open when he slammed the gate shut.  He was irritable that day, 
and did it
with such force that the gate was bent and we couldn't get uniform density 
across it.  It went
back to IBM for reworking.

Then we dropped one forty feet into the car park.

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Re: 1401 and Music

[Graeme Gibson]

Yes, and 1-part paper gave a sharper "steel band" effect while 5-part 
was closer to a steam-calliope playing in a circus tent!  Ahh, those 
old chain 1403s..
In my early Service Bureau days ('66/'67) we regularly did processing 
for the various wool brokers (and for the Wheat Board too), and some 
of their stationary was magnificent.. beautiful colours, "engraved" 
paper, aromatic carbon sheet inks.. m.. it was a pleasure to come 
in for graveyard shift and linger lovingly around the decollator!  (I 
wonder if a Chemical Hazard sign might be required at the decollator 
station these days?)


Graeme.

At 09:37 PM 14/11/2006, you wrote:
She'll be coming round the mountain on a 1403.  You had to disengage 
the tractor clutch and

wind the paper through slowly by hand.


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Re: 1401 and Music

[Gregory, Gary G]

Yes, MUSIC was McGill University System (for) Interactive Computing.
BTW, I believe that MUSIC is now public domain.

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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/14/2006
   at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF.

Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the
predecessor to SMF was IEFWAD.

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Re: 1401 and Music

[Ed Finnell]

 
In a message dated 11/15/2006 8:48:52 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

computer  students take card punch class, just so we'd know what it was
like in case  they were still in use in business when we graduated..
This was in the  early 80's.



>>
What I remember it was the successor to RAX. Big improvement over cards,  but 
somebody dropped the APL ball and couldn't motor for two days...some where  
the Tektronic came into play and was able to do graphics interactively although 
 maybe it was a dialup connection. Still beat cards to  pieces. 

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Re: 1401 and Music

[Hall, Ken (GTI)]

It's still available from McGill.  Some of the Hercules folks play with
it.

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Yes, that is the MUSIC I know.  It's what we used in college, for get
this, interactive coding of programs, submitting batch jobs, etc.  It
was still pretty new to the college, and the college still made all new
computer students take card punch class, just so we'd know what it was
like in case they were still in use in business when we graduated..
This was in the early 80's.

Dave



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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/14/2006
   at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF.

Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the predecessor
to SMF was IEFWAD.



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Re: 1401 and Music

[Jousma, David]

Yes, that is the MUSIC I know.  It's what we used in college, for get
this, interactive coding of programs, submitting batch jobs, etc.  It
was still pretty new to the college, and the college still made all new
computer students take card punch class, just so we'd know what it was
like in case they were still in use in business when we graduated..
This was in the early 80's.

Dave



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Principal Systems Programmer
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616.653.8429


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In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/14/2006
   at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF.

Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the predecessor
to SMF was IEFWAD.



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Re: 1401 and Music

[Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 11/14/2006
   at 10:37 AM, Phil Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:

>And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF.

Wasn't MUSIC McGill's predecessor to TSO? I thought that the
predecessor to SMF was IEFWAD.

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1401 and Music

[Phil Payne]

She'll be coming round the mountain on a 1403.  You had to disengage the 
tractor clutch and
wind the paper through slowly by hand.

Radio music was played by tuning to the medium wave and placing the radio on 
the processor
unit, towards the front left.

And there was the other MUSIC - OS/360's precursor to SMF.

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