Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Austin
Hello Dave,

I was hoping the pre-linker would resolve the long names I specified on
the call to the 8 byte upper case names to which it renames the target
routines, but it does not. To get around this I am using CHANGE
statements in the linkedit step.

I'm doing this in order to link the program into a PDS rather than a
PDSE.

Is there something I'm missing?


The pre-linker I'm using is EDCPRLNK.

Thanks

Steve 

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Steve Austin wrote:
 Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker;
it
 does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
 statements.
 
 Steve
 


Steve,

   When you say pick up - what do you mean?

   And, which pre-linker is this?

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks

I should have explained that I'm using the pre-linker so that I can link
to a PDS.

Steve  

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long names

You can't use the pre-linker with GOFF.

If I were you I would ditch the pre-linker. It's functionally stabalized

  and the binder does everything you need and more. Only use the 
pre-linker if you want to use load modules in a PDS.

Steve Austin wrote:
 Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker;
it
 does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
 statements.
 
 Steve
 
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 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin
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 :Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
 names?
 :The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper
case.
 
 
 Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.
 
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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2010-01-04 Thread David Crayford

Steve Austin wrote:

Thanks

I should have explained that I'm using the pre-linker so that I can link
to a PDS.



Out of curiosity why are you tied to a PDS? You will get much better 
mileage from a PDSE. GOFF, XPLINK, programs  16MB and future features 
that will only be supported by PDSE program objects.


Steve  


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Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
long names

You can't use the pre-linker with GOFF.

If I were you I would ditch the pre-linker. It's functionally stabalized

  and the binder does everything you need and more. Only use the 
pre-linker if you want to use load modules in a PDS.


Steve Austin wrote:

Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker;

it

does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve

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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin
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:Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
names?
:The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper

case.


Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2010-01-04 Thread Steve Austin
The code I am writing is a prototype, but it is intended that something
like it will be shipped to customers in time. 
I don't know that PDSE usage will be an issue to anyone, but experiece
suggests that someone will at least question the requirement, so for the
time being I'm avoiding using a PDSE.

Steve  

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Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
long names

Steve Austin wrote:
 Thanks
 
 I should have explained that I'm using the pre-linker so that I can
link
 to a PDS.
 

Out of curiosity why are you tied to a PDS? You will get much better 
mileage from a PDSE. GOFF, XPLINK, programs  16MB and future features 
that will only be supported by PDSE program objects.

 Steve  
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of David Crayford
 Sent: 25 December 2009 00:48
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
 long names
 
 You can't use the pre-linker with GOFF.
 
 If I were you I would ditch the pre-linker. It's functionally
stabalized
 
   and the binder does everything you need and more. Only use the 
 pre-linker if you want to use load modules in a PDS.
 
 Steve Austin wrote:
 Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker;
 it
 does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
 statements.

 Steve

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 Sent: 23 December 2009 18:45
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
 long names

 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin
 steve.aus...@macro4.com
 wrote:

 :Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
 names?
 :The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper
 case.

 Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2010-01-04 Thread Charles Mills
I hear the same thing from customers: ooh, I don't like PDSE's.

(cf. John McKown's post this morning on why JCL continues to be so bad.)

Charles

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Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long
names

The code I am writing is a prototype, but it is intended that something
like it will be shipped to customers in time. 
I don't know that PDSE usage will be an issue to anyone, but experiece
suggests that someone will at least question the requirement, so for the
time being I'm avoiding using a PDSE.

Steve  

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Sent: 04 January 2010 11:52
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
long names

Steve Austin wrote:
 Thanks
 
 I should have explained that I'm using the pre-linker so that I can
link
 to a PDS.
 

Out of curiosity why are you tied to a PDS? You will get much better 
mileage from a PDSE. GOFF, XPLINK, programs  16MB and future features 
that will only be supported by PDSE program objects.

 Steve  
 
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 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of David Crayford
 Sent: 25 December 2009 00:48
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
 long names
 
 You can't use the pre-linker with GOFF.
 
 If I were you I would ditch the pre-linker. It's functionally
stabalized
 
   and the binder does everything you need and more. Only use the 
 pre-linker if you want to use load modules in a PDS.
 
 Steve Austin wrote:
 Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker;
 it
 does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
 statements.

 Steve

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 Sent: 23 December 2009 18:45
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 Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
 long names

 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin
 steve.aus...@macro4.com
 wrote:

 :Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
 names?
 :The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper
 case.

 Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread Steve Austin
Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker; it
does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve

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Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
long names

On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin
steve.aus...@macro4.com
wrote:

:Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
names?
:The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.


Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Hi Steve,

 Use the ALIAS command to get precisely the letter's you'd like
 in the ESD name.

 For example:

   NAME ALIAS C'name'
   NAME CSECT
END

 creates a csect that has the letters name in the object deck.

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Steve Austin wrote:

Hello,

 


Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD names?
The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.  

 


Thanks

 

Steve  



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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread Thomas David Rivers

Steve Austin wrote:

Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker; it
does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve




Steve,

  When you say pick up - what do you mean?

  And, which pre-linker is this?

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-24 Thread David Crayford

You can't use the pre-linker with GOFF.

If I were you I would ditch the pre-linker. It's functionally stabalized 
 and the binder does everything you need and more. Only use the 
pre-linker if you want to use load modules in a PDS.


Steve Austin wrote:

Thanks for all your responses. I am now fighting with the pre-linker; it
does not pick up the long mixed case names I specified using alias
statements.

Steve

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Subject: Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case
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On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin
steve.aus...@macro4.com
wrote:

:Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD
names?
:The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.


Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-23 Thread Steve Austin
Hello,

 

Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD names?
The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.  

 

Thanks

 

Steve  


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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-23 Thread Steve Comstock

Steve Austin wrote:

Hello,

 


Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD names?
The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case.  

 


Thanks

 

Steve  


Look at the Assembler 'alias' statement:


LOAD alias c'dllload'


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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-23 Thread McKown, John
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 Subject: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed 
 case long names
 
 Hello,
 
 Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case 
 ESD names?
 The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are 
 upper case.  
 
 Thanks
 
 Steve  

I think:

MYCSECT CSECT
MYCSECT ALIAS C'MyCsect'

Seemed to work for me in HLASM 1.6 on z/OS 1.10.

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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-23 Thread john gilmore
You can use the ALIAS statement, which is documented with a relevant example in 
the HLASM LR, to do what you want to do, e.g., generate the external reference 
EtaoinShrdlu instead of ETAOINSHRDLU.

 


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 Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 +
 From: steve.aus...@macro4.com
 Subject: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names
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 Hello,
 
 
 
 Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD names?
 The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case. 
 
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
 Steve 
 
 
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Re: Assembler program calling a 'C' program with mixed case long names

2009-12-23 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:55:12 - Steve Austin steve.aus...@macro4.com
wrote:

:Is it possible to persuade the assembler to create mixed case ESD names?
:The GOFF option allows long names, but the ESD entries are upper case. 

Look at the assembler ALIAS statement.

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