Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
On 9/25/08, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? The answer is YES; I've never understood why. - Because the CICS programs are loaded by the CICS loader and not by normal z/OS program loading mechanisms. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
Because the CICS programs are loaded by the CICS loader and not by normal z/OS program loading mechanisms. I thought IBM was going to change that 20 years ago to make CICS easier to maintain. At least that's what a CICS SYSProg told me back then. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL ..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? The answer is YES; I've never understood why. The CICS Loader Domain, which loads all programs for which a CICS PPT definition is needed, searches //DFHRPL exclusively. If an individual program definition specifies to use an LPA copy, then it will search the LPA for that program, but it otherwise ignores the standard search order including the link list. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
Such a change will perhaps never happen. CICS support storage protection for RENT programs since a long time before z/OS does this for NON APF programs. There are more nice features provided by CICS with some help from z/OS Roland Because the CICS programs are loaded by the CICS loader and not by normal z/OS program loading mechanisms. I thought IBM was going to change that 20 years ago to make CICS easier to maintain. At least that's what a CICS SYSProg told me back then. - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
i think that the reason the loadlibs need to be in DFHRPL even if in linklist is because CICS does its own type of load of the modules from DFHRPL, not a MVS load which would come out of steplib/linklist. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:28 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation ..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? The answer is YES; I've never understood why. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 09:02:30 -0400, Barkow, Eileen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think that the reason the loadlibs need to be in DFHRPL even if in linklist is because CICS does its own type of load of the modules from DFHRPL, not a MVS load which would come out of steplib/linklist. CICS now uses standard z/OS facilities to load programs into memory. Now, CICS is OCO, so I cannot actually know how it does this. But, as an example, it could do something like: LOAD DE=bldl_list_entry, DCB=DFHRPL, LSEARCH=NO, ADRNAPF=starting-address-to-load-module-to -- John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
Yup -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:36 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation ..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
ABSOLUTELY John Hamman Senior Systems Programmer BlueCross BlueShield of Mississippi 601.664.4410 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Donnelly, John P [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/24/2008 11:35:34 AM ..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html * The information contained in this message, and attachments hereto, may be privileged/confidential, and may contain protected health information that is subject to use and disclosure restrictions under federal law. It is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. All recipients are expected to maintain appropriate protections on the information contained herein. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CICS DFHRPLConcatenation
..if our CEE, MQ, and EQAW libraries are all in the system linklist must they still be specified in the DFHRPL concatenation? The answer is YES; I've never understood why. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
