Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-04 Thread Ford Prefect
Jags,

If you have an active HASCKPT dataset on your RES volume, then move it.
Once that is done you can see if there are other problems.  There is no
question of whether a HASCKPT will cause performance problems, if JES2 is
using it then it will cause problems.  It does not belong there and needs
to be moved.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 2:24 AM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi All,

 I ran a report Against a TSO ID which had a volume contention and found the
 below as the result :


 Samples: 100 System: ZOSB  Date: 01/04/12  Time: 12.43.20  Range: 100
 Sec


 Job: *TCHN039*  Primary delay: Excessive pending time on volume
 Z18RS1.


 Probable causes: 1) Contention with another system for use of the
 volume.
 2) Overutilized channel, control unit or head of
 string.




 -- Volume Z18RS1 Device Data
 --
 Number:D700Active:  80%Pending:   69% Average
 Users
 Device:33903   Connect: 11%Delay DB:   0%
 Delayed
 Shared:Yes Disconnect:   0%Delay CM:   0%
 9.9


 --- Job Performance Summary
 ---
Service   WFL -Using%- DLY IDL UKN  % Delayed for 
 Primary
 CX ASID ClassP Cr  %   PRC DEV  %   %   %  PRC DEV STR SUB OPR ENQ
 Reason
 T  0264 TSO  *  90   4  42  45   9   1  41   0   0   0   0
 Z18RS1
TSO  1 220   4  14  45   8   0  14   0   0   0   0
 Z18RS1
TSO  2  00   0  28   0   1   1  27   0   0   0   0
 Z18RS1


 Probable cause says as :

 1) Contention with another system for use of the volume.-  Volume is
 not shared
 2) Overutilized channel, control unit or head of string.  -  We have two
 channels operational but is it again we need to re-look into channel
 activities ?

 Regards,
 Jags

 On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

  Dave Gibney
  Information Technology Services
  Washington State University
 
   -Original Message-
   From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
   Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:47 AM
   To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
   Subject: Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)
  
   
Hi Lizette,
   
Apology for not being precise.
   
Datasets found in SYSRES are :
   
are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language
 environment
datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support
  technology(FFST)
   datasets
are found.
   
During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces
 any
   information
about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did TSO
   RMFMON
   and Found
some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job using their
   Assigned
volumes.
   
Jags
   
  
   Jags,
  
   It is important to provide information when asked.  We cannot see your
   environment.  When you ask a question - How can I fix this.  We must
 ask
   questions to help.
  
   The areas you need to research are
  
   1)  GRS entries.  Is your GRSRNLxx member setup correctly for your
   environment.
   2)  Verify what files are accessed when this occurs
   3)  Verify you only have z/OS TLIB datasets on your SYSRES volume.  If
  you
   have other datasets, you need to determine the impact to your SYSRES
   volume.
   4)  Verify if you have any HFS or zFS files on your SYSRES volume.
   5)  Verify if you have any SYS1.DUMPxx datasets on your SYSRES volume
   6)  Verify if you have any Security (RACF, Top Secret, ACF2) Data bases
  on
   your SYSRES volume
   7)  Run performance reports on your volume to see what is open during
 the
   time of RMF issue.  Identify what datasets have the highest access
 during
   the RMF issue.
  
 
  I would add and move elsewhere after the word Verify in the above
  advice. :)
 
  Dave Gibney
  Information Technology Services
  Washington State University
 
 
   Are you saying you have the JES2 HASPCKPT dataset on your SYSRES
   Volume?
   That needs to move.  It should be on a separate volume.
  
   You must do these steps.  You must review your system.  You will need
 to
  do
   the analysis to determine your issue.
  
   When starting to understand I/O issues with volumes, this is a good
  overview
   http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/TDS390/SH19-6818-
   08/en_US/HTML/DRLM9
   mst61.htm
  
  
   And the following REDBOOKs should help
  
   Effective zSeries Performance Monitoring Using Resource Measurement
   Facility
   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246645.html?Open
  
   Using Resource Measurement Facility Monitor III Efficiently
   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/gg244131.html?Open
  
   Parallel Sysplex Performance Healthcheck Case Study: DMData/Danske Data
   http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245373.html?Open
  
  
   The only datasets on a SYSRES IMHO are the Tlibs from

Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
 Hi All,
 
 One thing I have noticed from the report is that most of the user ID are
the reason for
 volume contentions.
 
 Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
 action
 DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 Is it something I need to look into user's Proc ? Could anyone please
throw some light
 on this.
 
 Jags

Jags,

Have you tried to see what datasets are open and enq'd during this time?
What research have you done?  What datasets are on your SYSRES volume?  You
have not answered these qestions.

Have you issued a D GRS,C to see if anything is obvious?

Lizette

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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread jagadishan perumal
Little Correction :

During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
information about Volume or Dataset Contention.

I meant It doesnt Produces any result pertaining to dataset or volume
contentions.

Jags

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:43 PM, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Lizette,

 Apology for not being precise.

 Datasets found in SYSRES are :

 are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment
 datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support technology(FFST)
 datasets are found.

 During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
 information about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did
 TSO RMFMON and Found some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job
 using their Assigned volumes.

 Jags

   On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com
  wrote:

  Hi All,
 
  One thing I have noticed from the report is that most of the user ID are
 the reason for
  volume contentions.
 
  Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
  action
  DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
  system.
  DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
  system.
  DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
  system.
  Is it something I need to look into user's Proc ? Could anyone please
 throw some light
  on this.
 
  Jags

 Jags,

 Have you tried to see what datasets are open and enq'd during this time?
 What research have you done?  What datasets are on your SYSRES volume?
  You
 have not answered these qestions.

 Have you issued a D GRS,C to see if anything is obvious?

 Lizette

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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi Lizette,

Apology for not being precise.

Datasets found in SYSRES are :

are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment
datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support technology(FFST)
datasets are found.

During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
information about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did
TSO RMFMON and Found some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job
using their Assigned volumes.

Jags

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.comwrote:

  Hi All,
 
  One thing I have noticed from the report is that most of the user ID are
 the reason for
  volume contentions.
 
  Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
  action
  DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
  system.
  DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
  system.
  DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
  system.
  Is it something I need to look into user's Proc ? Could anyone please
 throw some light
  on this.
 
  Jags

 Jags,

 Have you tried to see what datasets are open and enq'd during this time?
 What research have you done?  What datasets are on your SYSRES volume?  You
 have not answered these qestions.

 Have you issued a D GRS,C to see if anything is obvious?

 Lizette

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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Joel C. Ewing
I believe JES2 uses physical reserves on entire volume when accessing 
HASPCKPT datasets and depending on your JES PARMLIB member may hold it 
for a significant time --  not a good dataset type to put on a SYSRES 
shared with other systems.  Others may be able to suggest JES PARMLIB 
changes to shorten the hold time, but I would move all HASPCKPT datasets 
to volumes that have minimal shared access with another system, or at 
very least off volumes like SYSRES that contain many 
performance-critical datasets needed by all systems sharing that SYSRES.


I suspect the usual z/OS manual recommendations are to put HASPCKPT on a 
volume by itself, but a sufficiently quiet volume is good enough.

   JC Ewing

On 01/03/2012 02:13 AM, jagadishan perumal wrote:

Hi Lizette,

Apology for not being precise.

Datasets found in SYSRES are :

are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment
datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support technology(FFST)
datasets are found.

During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
information about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did
TSO RMFMON and Found some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job
using their Assigned volumes.

Jags

On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Lizette Koehlerstars...@mindspring.comwrote:


Hi All,

One thing I have noticed from the report is that most of the user ID are

the reason for

volume contentions.

Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
action
DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
Is it something I need to look into user's Proc ? Could anyone please

throw some light

on this.

Jags


Jags,

Have you tried to see what datasets are open and enq'd during this time?
What research have you done?  What datasets are on your SYSRES volume?  You
have not answered these qestions.

Have you issued a D GRS,C to see if anything is obvious?

Lizette




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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 Hi Lizette,
 
 Apology for not being precise.
 
 Datasets found in SYSRES are :
 
 are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment
 datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support technology(FFST)
datasets
 are found.
 
 During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
information
 about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did TSO RMFMON
and Found
 some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job using their
Assigned
 volumes.
 
 Jags
 

Jags,

It is important to provide information when asked.  We cannot see your
environment.  When you ask a question - How can I fix this.  We must ask
questions to help.

The areas you need to research are

1)  GRS entries.  Is your GRSRNLxx member setup correctly for your
environment.
2)  Verify what files are accessed when this occurs
3)  Verify you only have z/OS TLIB datasets on your SYSRES volume.  If you
have other datasets, you need to determine the impact to your SYSRES volume.
4)  Verify if you have any HFS or zFS files on your SYSRES volume.
5)  Verify if you have any SYS1.DUMPxx datasets on your SYSRES volume
6)  Verify if you have any Security (RACF, Top Secret, ACF2) Data bases on
your SYSRES volume
7)  Run performance reports on your volume to see what is open during the
time of RMF issue.  Identify what datasets have the highest access during
the RMF issue.

Are you saying you have the JES2 HASPCKPT dataset on your SYSRES Volume?
That needs to move.  It should be on a separate volume.

You must do these steps.  You must review your system.  You will need to do
the analysis to determine your issue.

When starting to understand I/O issues with volumes, this is a good overview
http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/TDS390/SH19-6818-08/en_US/HTML/DRLM9
mst61.htm


And the following REDBOOKs should help

Effective zSeries Performance Monitoring Using Resource Measurement Facility
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246645.html?Open

Using Resource Measurement Facility Monitor III Efficiently
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/gg244131.html?Open

Parallel Sysplex Performance Healthcheck Case Study: DMData/Danske Data
http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245373.html?Open


The only datasets on a SYSRES IMHO are the Tlibs from the serverpac/cpac or
initial install.  All other datasets should be on a separate volume(s).


Lizette

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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 3 Jan 2012 13:43:02 +0530, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Apology for not being precise.


. As per Mark advise I did
TSO RMFMON and Found some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job
using their Assigned volumes.


chuckle  (sorry).   That will do it!   No operational data sets should be
on your sysres.  Especially one that is subject to RESERVE like the HASPCKPT 
will be.  

Since it is subject to RESERVE, if you have the space, it should be on its 
own volume or on a volume with data sets that are rarely accessed.

Read the JES2 manuals about using $TCKPTDEF to set up a NEWCKPT1 (if
you don't already have one) and the reconfiguration dialogs 
($TCKPTDEF,RECONFIG=YES) to move the checkpoint to another volume.

Mark
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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread Gibney, Dave
Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University

 -Original Message-
 From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
 Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
 Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:47 AM
 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
 Subject: Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)
 
 
  Hi Lizette,
 
  Apology for not being precise.
 
  Datasets found in SYSRES are :
 
  are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment
  datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support technology(FFST)
 datasets
  are found.
 
  During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
 information
  about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did TSO
 RMFMON
 and Found
  some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job using their
 Assigned
  volumes.
 
  Jags
 
 
 Jags,
 
 It is important to provide information when asked.  We cannot see your
 environment.  When you ask a question - How can I fix this.  We must ask
 questions to help.
 
 The areas you need to research are
 
 1)  GRS entries.  Is your GRSRNLxx member setup correctly for your
 environment.
 2)  Verify what files are accessed when this occurs
 3)  Verify you only have z/OS TLIB datasets on your SYSRES volume.  If you
 have other datasets, you need to determine the impact to your SYSRES
 volume.
 4)  Verify if you have any HFS or zFS files on your SYSRES volume.
 5)  Verify if you have any SYS1.DUMPxx datasets on your SYSRES volume
 6)  Verify if you have any Security (RACF, Top Secret, ACF2) Data bases on
 your SYSRES volume
 7)  Run performance reports on your volume to see what is open during the
 time of RMF issue.  Identify what datasets have the highest access during
 the RMF issue.
 

I would add and move elsewhere after the word Verify in the above advice. :)

Dave Gibney
Information Technology Services
Washington State University


 Are you saying you have the JES2 HASPCKPT dataset on your SYSRES
 Volume?
 That needs to move.  It should be on a separate volume.
 
 You must do these steps.  You must review your system.  You will need to do
 the analysis to determine your issue.
 
 When starting to understand I/O issues with volumes, this is a good overview
 http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/TDS390/SH19-6818-
 08/en_US/HTML/DRLM9
 mst61.htm
 
 
 And the following REDBOOKs should help
 
 Effective zSeries Performance Monitoring Using Resource Measurement
 Facility
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246645.html?Open
 
 Using Resource Measurement Facility Monitor III Efficiently
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/gg244131.html?Open
 
 Parallel Sysplex Performance Healthcheck Case Study: DMData/Danske Data
 http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245373.html?Open
 
 
 The only datasets on a SYSRES IMHO are the Tlibs from the serverpac/cpac or
 initial install.  All other datasets should be on a separate volume(s).
 
 
 Lizette
 
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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-03 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi All,

I ran a report Against a TSO ID which had a volume contention and found the
below as the result :


Samples: 100 System: ZOSB  Date: 01/04/12  Time: 12.43.20  Range: 100
Sec


Job: *TCHN039*  Primary delay: Excessive pending time on volume
Z18RS1.


Probable causes: 1) Contention with another system for use of the
volume.
 2) Overutilized channel, control unit or head of
string.




-- Volume Z18RS1 Device Data
--
Number:D700Active:  80%Pending:   69% Average
Users
Device:33903   Connect: 11%Delay DB:   0%
Delayed
Shared:Yes Disconnect:   0%Delay CM:   0%
9.9


--- Job Performance Summary
---
Service   WFL -Using%- DLY IDL UKN  % Delayed for 
Primary
CX ASID ClassP Cr  %   PRC DEV  %   %   %  PRC DEV STR SUB OPR ENQ
Reason
T  0264 TSO  *  90   4  42  45   9   1  41   0   0   0   0
Z18RS1
TSO  1 220   4  14  45   8   0  14   0   0   0   0
Z18RS1
TSO  2  00   0  28   0   1   1  27   0   0   0   0
Z18RS1


Probable cause says as :

1) Contention with another system for use of the volume.-  Volume is
not shared
2) Overutilized channel, control unit or head of string.  -  We have two
channels operational but is it again we need to re-look into channel
activities ?

Regards,
Jags

On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Gibney, Dave gib...@wsu.edu wrote:

 Dave Gibney
 Information Technology Services
 Washington State University

  -Original Message-
  From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
   Behalf Of Lizette Koehler
  Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 5:47 AM
  To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
  Subject: Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)
 
  
   Hi Lizette,
  
   Apology for not being precise.
  
   Datasets found in SYSRES are :
  
   are some BCP related datasets , assembler datasets,language environment
   datasets,IBM book manager datasets First failure Support
 technology(FFST)
  datasets
   are found.
  
   During This Situation when I do : /D GRS,C  It does really produces any
  information
   about Volume or Dataset Contention. As per Mark advise I did TSO
  RMFMON
  and Found
   some SYS1.HASCKPT datasets used by JES2, some User Job using their
  Assigned
   volumes.
  
   Jags
  
 
  Jags,
 
  It is important to provide information when asked.  We cannot see your
  environment.  When you ask a question - How can I fix this.  We must ask
  questions to help.
 
  The areas you need to research are
 
  1)  GRS entries.  Is your GRSRNLxx member setup correctly for your
  environment.
  2)  Verify what files are accessed when this occurs
  3)  Verify you only have z/OS TLIB datasets on your SYSRES volume.  If
 you
  have other datasets, you need to determine the impact to your SYSRES
  volume.
  4)  Verify if you have any HFS or zFS files on your SYSRES volume.
  5)  Verify if you have any SYS1.DUMPxx datasets on your SYSRES volume
  6)  Verify if you have any Security (RACF, Top Secret, ACF2) Data bases
 on
  your SYSRES volume
  7)  Run performance reports on your volume to see what is open during the
  time of RMF issue.  Identify what datasets have the highest access during
  the RMF issue.
 

 I would add and move elsewhere after the word Verify in the above
 advice. :)

 Dave Gibney
 Information Technology Services
 Washington State University


  Are you saying you have the JES2 HASPCKPT dataset on your SYSRES
  Volume?
  That needs to move.  It should be on a separate volume.
 
  You must do these steps.  You must review your system.  You will need to
 do
  the analysis to determine your issue.
 
  When starting to understand I/O issues with volumes, this is a good
 overview
  http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/tividd/td/TDS390/SH19-6818-
  08/en_US/HTML/DRLM9
  mst61.htm
 
 
  And the following REDBOOKs should help
 
  Effective zSeries Performance Monitoring Using Resource Measurement
  Facility
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg246645.html?Open
 
  Using Resource Measurement Facility Monitor III Efficiently
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/gg244131.html?Open
 
  Parallel Sysplex Performance Healthcheck Case Study: DMData/Danske Data
  http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg245373.html?Open
 
 
  The only datasets on a SYSRES IMHO are the Tlibs from the serverpac/cpac
 or
  initial install.  All other datasets should be on a separate volume(s).
 
 
  Lizette
 
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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-02 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi All,

One thing I have noticed from the report is that most of the user ID are
the reason for volume contentions.

Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
action
DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
Is it something I need to look into user's Proc ? Could anyone please throw
some light on this.

Jags
On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:49 AM, jagadishan perumal
jagadish...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Mark,

 Are you in a shared DASD environment?   If not, is there a test / sandbox
 LPAR up accessing that volume?   Even so, I've shared / share the sysres
 between different monoplex systems without any problems because it
 is read only and much of the access comes from the LNKLST / LLA / VLF
 which means there is also no I/O contention.

 Yes we in a shared DASD environment.

   On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:

  On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:39:44 +0530, jagadishan perumal 
 jagadish...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report :
 
Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util:
 19 %
 Name   Users Active  Speed  Name   Users Active
 Speed
 *SYSTEM  203 58  8  *DEV 107
 54  8
 ALL TSO  119 52  5  *MASTER*   1  0
 56
 ALL STC   74  3
 40
 ALL BATCH  8  4
 21
 ALL ASCH Not
 avail
 ALL OMVS   2  0No
 work
 *PROC129  3
 7
 
 
 -- Exceptions
 -
 Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
 action
 DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 
 The above exceptions shows lot of device contention due to which often we
 are facing a session hang. Also, Device display shows the status as
 BSY(busy). Could anyone please throw some light on the above issue.
 
 Jags
 


 Are you in a shared DASD environment?   If not, is there a test / sandbox
 LPAR up accessing that volume?   Even so, I've shared / share the sysres
 between different monoplex systems without any problems because it
 is read only and much of the access comes from the LNKLST / LLA / VLF
 which means there is also no I/O contention.

 If you are sharing it in some way, it looks like there is a data set on
 that volume
 that is subject to RESERVE. You can check what it is from the other
 system(s)
 using RMF post processor reports if you have the option turned on or look
 real time via TSO RMFMON SENQR option (PF9) and keep hitting
 enter until you see it, or use the RMF III ENQR command.

 The big problem here isn't that there is a RESERVE, it is that going by
 the volser name this looks like your sysres volume or part of the sysres
 set.   There should be no data sets on your sysres subject to RESERVE
 (except the VTOC and VVDS if you have your zFS files on there).


 Regards,

 Mark
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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2012-01-01 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi Mark,

Are you in a shared DASD environment?   If not, is there a test / sandbox
LPAR up accessing that volume?   Even so, I've shared / share the sysres
between different monoplex systems without any problems because it
is read only and much of the access comes from the LNKLST / LLA / VLF
which means there is also no I/O contention.

Yes we in a shared DASD environment.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Mark Zelden m...@mzelden.com wrote:

  On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:39:44 +0530, jagadishan perumal 
 jagadish...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report :
 
Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util:
 19 %
 Name   Users Active  Speed  Name   Users Active
 Speed
 *SYSTEM  203 58  8  *DEV 107
 54  8
 ALL TSO  119 52  5  *MASTER*   1  0
 56
 ALL STC   74  3
 40
 ALL BATCH  8  4
 21
 ALL ASCH Not
 avail
 ALL OMVS   2  0No
 work
 *PROC129  3
 7
 
 
 -- Exceptions
 -
 Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
 action
 DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 
 The above exceptions shows lot of device contention due to which often we
 are facing a session hang. Also, Device display shows the status as
 BSY(busy). Could anyone please throw some light on the above issue.
 
 Jags
 


 Are you in a shared DASD environment?   If not, is there a test / sandbox
 LPAR up accessing that volume?   Even so, I've shared / share the sysres
 between different monoplex systems without any problems because it
 is read only and much of the access comes from the LNKLST / LLA / VLF
 which means there is also no I/O contention.

 If you are sharing it in some way, it looks like there is a data set on
 that volume
 that is subject to RESERVE. You can check what it is from the other
 system(s)
 using RMF post processor reports if you have the option turned on or look
 real time via TSO RMFMON SENQR option (PF9) and keep hitting
 enter until you see it, or use the RMF III ENQR command.

 The big problem here isn't that there is a RESERVE, it is that going by
 the volser name this looks like your sysres volume or part of the sysres
 set.   There should be no data sets on your sysres subject to RESERVE
 (except the VTOC and VVDS if you have your zFS files on there).


 Regards,

 Mark
 --
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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2011-12-29 Thread Ulrich Krueger
Jags,
Is your GRS-plex set up properly to propagate ENQs and RESERVEs across all
the systems in your shared DASD complex?
IMHO, under normal conditions, you should not have hard RESERVEs on a disk
impacting your systems.


Regards,
Ulrich Krueger


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Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 11:10 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

Hi,

I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report :

   Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util:
19 %
Name   Users Active  Speed  Name   Users Active
Speed
*SYSTEM  203 58  8  *DEV 107
54  8
ALL TSO  119 52  5  *MASTER*   1  0
56
ALL STC   74  3
40
ALL BATCH  8  4
21
ALL ASCH Not
avail
ALL OMVS   2  0No
work
*PROC129  3
7


-- Exceptions
-
Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
action
DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.

The above exceptions shows lot of device contention due to which often we
are facing a session hang. Also, Device display shows the status as
BSY(busy). Could anyone please throw some light on the above issue.

Jags

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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2011-12-29 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 12:39:44 +0530, jagadishan perumal jagadish...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hi,

I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report :

   Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util:
19 %
Name   Users Active  Speed  Name   Users Active
Speed
*SYSTEM  203 58  8  *DEV 107
54  8
ALL TSO  119 52  5  *MASTER*   1  0
56
ALL STC   74  3
40
ALL BATCH  8  4
21
ALL ASCH Not
avail
ALL OMVS   2  0No
work
*PROC129  3
7


-- Exceptions
-
Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
action
DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.

The above exceptions shows lot of device contention due to which often we
are facing a session hang. Also, Device display shows the status as
BSY(busy). Could anyone please throw some light on the above issue.

Jags



Are you in a shared DASD environment?   If not, is there a test / sandbox
LPAR up accessing that volume?   Even so, I've shared / share the sysres
between different monoplex systems without any problems because it
is read only and much of the access comes from the LNKLST / LLA / VLF
which means there is also no I/O contention.

If you are sharing it in some way, it looks like there is a data set on that 
volume
that is subject to RESERVE. You can check what it is from the other system(s) 
using RMF post processor reports if you have the option turned on or look
real time via TSO RMFMON SENQR option (PF9) and keep hitting
enter until you see it, or use the RMF III ENQR command.   

The big problem here isn't that there is a RESERVE, it is that going by 
the volser name this looks like your sysres volume or part of the sysres
set.   There should be no data sets on your sysres subject to RESERVE
(except the VTOC and VVDS if you have your zFS files on there).  


Regards,

Mark
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Re: Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2011-12-29 Thread Lizette Koehler
 
 Hi,
 
 I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report :
 
Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util:
 19 %
 Name   Users Active  Speed  Name   Users Active
 Speed
 *SYSTEM  203 58  8  *DEV 107
 54  8
 ALL TSO  119 52  5  *MASTER*   1  0
 56
 ALL STC   74  3
 40
 ALL BATCH  8  4
 21
 ALL ASCH Not
 avail
 ALL OMVS   2  0No
 work
 *PROC129  3
 7
 
 
 -- Exceptions
 -
 Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
 action
 DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
 system.
 
 The above exceptions shows lot of device contention due to which often we
are facing
 a session hang. Also, Device display shows the status as BSY(busy). Could
anyone
 please throw some light on the above issue.
 
 Jags


Jags,

What is on your SYSRES Volume?  Do you have datasets that get updated there?
You have to review the datasets and see which ones are getting hit the most.
What do you have on your sysres volume that has a high usage?  If you have
MXG or MICS it can help you answer that question.

You need to research this and see what is impacting the sysres volume.

Lizette

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Clarification on Sysres Volumes(RMF)

2011-12-28 Thread jagadishan perumal
Hi,

I was examining the RMF delay report where below is the report :

   Speed of 100 = Maximum, 0 = Stopped Average CPU Util:
19 %
Name   Users Active  Speed  Name   Users Active
Speed
*SYSTEM  203 58  8  *DEV 107
54  8
ALL TSO  119 52  5  *MASTER*   1  0
56
ALL STC   74  3
40
ALL BATCH  8  4
21
ALL ASCH Not
avail
ALL OMVS   2  0No
work
*PROC129  3
7


-- Exceptions
-
Name   ReasonCritical val. Possible cause or
action
DOV0053DEV -Z18RS193.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0061DEV -Z18RS192.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.
DOV0065DEV -Z18RS191.0 % delay May be reserved by another
system.

The above exceptions shows lot of device contention due to which often we
are facing a session hang. Also, Device display shows the status as
BSY(busy). Could anyone please throw some light on the above issue.

Jags

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